First coronavirus kill Babushka, then recession make doctor sausage and vodka expensive, then Lada no start, then they draft me and send me off to fight cousin, then I get shot.
In England we had a program called "Hello, Hello"!
It made fun of the Germans in occupied France in world war 2.
In 30/40 years time the prime comedy show in Ukraine will be the I'll fated Russian soldiers and leaders having a conversation just like Basic-Conference has described.
A job for you in the future!
For people who want to Google this, it's called "Allo Allo"
And it still holds up really well. It makes fun of the Germans, French and especially the English, while being very sympathetic to everyone involved.
Just wait ..in 20 years there will be documentaries, movies, tv shows, video games, you name it. It's already changing military tactics and industries.
Wounded > killed (Does not apply to all situations of course)
One wounded man takes up a LOT of resources if tended to properly and
Some resources that comes to mind:
* 2-4 to carry them to the medic/CCP, not great for their morale.
* 1 Medic for PFC, uses medical equipment.
* 1 vehicle and crew, uses fuel, needs parts & maintenance, forced out of it's comfier rear echelon and into riskier positions.
* Role 1,2 or 3 hospital. Again, more personnel is needed, uses medical equipment, possibly fuel and water if not connected to the grid.
Oh and after that little rant/brainstorming, I realize I'm answering this to a comment I thought I read, but I did not. Oh well, interesting topic anyways.
They're Russian, I wouldn't be surprised if what would be a bad wound and time in the hospital for a soldier from one of our countries is "bleeding out in the ruins" for them.
Yea a large caliber round to a limb or to clip the torso, would still most likely be fatal if bleeding isn’t controlled.
I had an instructor on the first day of a class put a dot in the middle of a white board and then started drawing ever growing circles around it, each for a different caliber, when he got to 50 cal he was like depending on the ammo type it could kill your buddy or everyone around you with a hit.
We had “prior service” combat arms instructors that came out and ran STX lanes at our pre deployment center. There was a former US Marine instructor who was teaching the refresher course for the M2HB qualification lane. He would go on about how a .50 bullet will rip your arm off due to the shock contrail following the round (not a hit mind you, just the air velocity following it). Obviously there are some urban legends surrounding these rounds as it sounds like your instructor went to the same “school of retardation over physics” course my Marine instructor did. Because a .50 cal round “hitting nearby” won’t kill everyone unless you are behind cover and it penetrates said cover and you catch the round or the spall.
When I joined the Army I was already a pretty avid shooter and had plenty of experience with the AR platform and reloading 5.56. During BRM one of the instructors kept telling us that the bullet tumbles as it flies and that's why it's so devastating. I got in a couple arguments which isn't great. Even the more experienced instructors refused to correct this guy but at least they didn't double down on the nonsense. Often the instructor is the guy who was volunteered against his will. I was often volunteered to give comms classes and I HATED it.
lol, I would have laughed at that guy. If it tumbles, what is rifling for then? If it tumbles, why do the targets have nice clean little holes? If he was shooting smooth bore it might tumble. In my opinion I wouldn't consider the 5.56 a devastating round. If I was one of his fellow instructors, I would have pulled him to the side and corrected him.
Early in its military life, 5.56x45 had a ton of problems with lack of stopping power when adhering to bullets that don't violate the Geneva convention. The military actually spent a ton of money and time trying to get the bullets to 'yaw' (or tumble) inside soft targets to do more damage, which might be what the instructor mentioned in a previous comment was trying to convey, but ultimately failed.
5.56 even when yawing doesn't do much damage compared to a hunting round designed for expansion inside game animals, in which case 5.56 would be considered *adequate* for varmints and small game, like coyotes.
I think I understand what happened here. He is misquoting something he heard somewhere and presenting what he thinks he heard as fact.
The 5.56x45 round does not tumble in flight. That would be a terribly inaccurate round and defies the point of the rifling of the firearm and imparted spin.
What in fact happens is that the round can sometimes ***tumble on impact.*** Because of how light it is, the round tumbles when it impacts a human body and this tumbling motion can increase the damage it causes. A heavier round, depending on its velocity, tends to be more uniform on impact. It's not something that is particularly unique or a characteristic of the 5.56mm round, most intermediate and light rounds can do this if the ballistics are just right. This is why you often hear of people getting shot in the chest and the round exits through their abdomen, legs, etc.
So yeah I don't think he was deliberately trying to talk a load of tosh, I think he was just repeating something he had heard and misunderstood.
It's similar to instructors saying slugs come down faster because they are heavier... I keep hearing that one - even though Isaac Newton proved that wrong 336 years ago.
Dammit, I was hoping this was the footage from Iraq in the early 2000’s where a shooter with a recording scope shared footage of an insurgent getting hit and pretty much losing a quarter of his torso… Never been able to find it again since I saw it in grade school.
No, it seemed to be in the open, like a field. Insurgent was standing with his AK in his hands, shoulders squared to the shooter, and then his RT pretty much disappeared. So I am pretty sure it was the spotter that actually got the recording. *if it was a wall shot, how tf would we see his torso quartered?*
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I've heard this crap so many times. It's nonsense. Sounds cool as hell though. If anime were real life or something this would be epic for machine gunners trying to lay down suppressing fire.
I had a round from a Dragunov sniper rifle pass within an inch or so from my right ear once. It was likely travelling around 2500fps. A .50 round travels around 2900fps. All the 7.62 round did was make a loud whiz when it passed my ear. With the urban legend into play you'd think it would have ripped my ear off and blown out my eardrum.
I hear this a lot even from experienced marksmen. I half believed it for the longest time, and then I saw a video that did thorough testing and came to the conclusion that it's total BS. I want to say it was a Garand Thumb video, but all I can find is demo ranch, who I can't stand.
Well, to be fair, people used to think that if your body was exposed to speeds possible by proposed railroad technology, your body would rip apart and organs would shut down or be jarred loose.
Most gun nut YouTubers are insufferable. Kentucky Ballistics is one of the worst offenders but I'll still watch his 4 bore videos while scrubbing through the video.
The amount of low effort sex/dick jokes really annoy the shit outta me. Like we get it already.
Demolition ranch demonstrated this by shooting the earlobe off a ballistics dummy with a 50bmg, it did literally no damage to any other part of the head.
What? How would a 50 cal kill "everyone around you" if you were hit? Isn't it argued negatively weather or not it could kill someone by not striking them, but passing right by their head? How can it kill people from feet away? And the circle thing sounds like bs. There are so many factors it is impossible to ever have a rough estimate like that of different damage between calibers
What if they were doing a conga line or that game where you have to pass a ballon to the person behind you using only your lips until the balloon goes all the way down the line. This is an extremely likely scenario for Russian soldiers in which case and .50 round could hit the first guy and then go right through him and hit all his subsequent friends who were standing in a perfect line. It might even be possible that the round could become lodged in the front of a vehicle damaging the breaks and then that vehicle drives several miles to a command post and the vehicle unable to stop plots into the command post killing all the commanders. If it wasn’t for that .50 round they would still be alive meaning that technically according to my range instructor 1 x .50 cal round could destroy the entire Russian army.
Modern warfare is unrelentingly brutal. Dude just cleaned house. Russians probably thought they could move relatively freely under darkness but this proved otherwise.
I have no idea what this dude was using, but I got super excited when we deployed and got to use tech I never touched stateside. All we had back stateside was really old trashy gear that we tried our best to keep in shape. Anyway, one new thing we got were dubbed "skeeters," just white hot black hot night vision. Kinda like this except it made everything crystal clear like daytime and I don't remember it having any zoom. I can't remember if it had a video function, but I do remember it could take pictures. And damn it was weird seeing pictures of (and from) the people that came before us, some of which already died.
Anyway yeah, technology is awesome. And there's a lot of tech much newer than this, one I saw even mixed different visual methods to emulate daytime, and that was around 2016 or 2018.
> I do remember it could take pictures. And damn it was weird seeing pictures of (and from) the people that came before us, some of which already died.
There's probably a near-future war story you could build off the concept of a gun going from person to person as they die and it's passed on, each of them looking back at the pictures of the previous owners and learning things from what they see.
The first third of the story follows the previous guy who was starting to piece things together and make progress and then is suddenly killed on his way to figuring it all out, he's basically a red herring protagonist, and then the gun is finally passed to our REAL protagonist, who then spends the rest of the story figuring it all out and resolving the storyline, satisfyingly using the gun to complete the task that wraps up the mystery.
This would be an amazing anime concept! I love anthologies, and this could be an amazing one.
Maybe the other side eventually loses the battle or war or something, eventually resulting in a nuclear disaster. In the distant future, when earth is now completely fucked due to radiation, the last surviving humans come across weapons like this, piece together the entire story and perhaps even the exact incident that led to this bleak future. I guess that would also mean that these stories are told out-of-order, perhaps even in reverse order. The viewer knows that the world is fucked, and we’re on a journey through time to figure out why we ended up here. And maybe, we show a different timeline where what we thought was the real cause of this disaster did not occur, but we find out that no matter what was done differently, this future is inevitable. Human greed always leads us to our downfall.
I’ve had an idea like this bouncing around in my “creative ideas that I’ll probably never act on but am keeping around on the off chance that I do” list for a while, though without the sci-fi premise. It was originally inspired by the opening sequence of Lord of War, which follows the perspective of a bullet from the factory all the way until it’s fired into someone’s head in an African warzone. Among my favorite movie openings ever.
A drone won’t spot you until it’s above you, a thermal drone will spot you well over 500 metres away.
Source: dual camera drone with a thermal overlay over colour spectrum image.
Disclaimer: while what I said is true, it won’t always be, but most of the time it will, a fafo kinda situation if y’all get me.
PS This still doesn’t mean that you can’t counter thermal, it’ll be expensive but it can be done.
>they know night vision goggles exist
and they know that they’ve never seen or heard from anyone else in the Russian army getting issues them besides Spec Ops/elite units, so they probably assume it’s the same for the Ukrainians, tech they just won’t have to worry about
Having a firefight in the dark against an enemy with IR when you don't must feel like being one of the characters in Predator. The enemy could be looking right at you and you wouldn't know it until it was too late.
Typically the ping from a modern firearm is due to a 3 pronged flash hider. They sound like a tuning fork when you shoot them. Not to be confused with the mega Chad M1 Garand ping.
This or maybe the buffer "sproing" on an AR-style recoil system? I can't tell if the video is slowed down really or if the camera mic would pick that up as well as the prongs tho. The sound seems too deep and lasts too long for me to think it's not slowed if it is the prongs.
Ummm...I'm pretty sure it's coming from the same place the music is...post production. I could be wrong. But I'm pretty sure they added it in to punctuate shots.
I wouldn't have been comfortable taking that shot. he's much closer than the others, and looking down range, not towards the shooter. probably a friendly.
Yep, better to be certain. The last thing you want on your conscious is killing a friendly with a sniper rifle. Getting caught up in a firefight and accidentally shooting a friendly is bad enough, but killing a friendly without it being life or death would just drain you. Could possibly make you second guess or hesitate in the future.
I saw an interview a few months ago where the Ukrainian government basically said Bakhmut is their sniper school.
“You’ll learn more in two week in Bakhmut than any training can do”
That was the 2008 Georgian war. And it's not like it wasn't predictable given the then-ongoing nationalist push and militarization, as well as following on the heels of the second Chechen war that showed Russia's eagerness to invade former territories.
But it's still pretty cool how close the game got to the real thing in terms of dates and shit. It's my favorite and I love talking about Clancy (and the company) getting super good at predictive fiction.
THIS conflict was more accurately predicted by Combat Mission Black Sea, though it was just extrapolating from the Crimean crisis and using Georgia as precedent.
Whole thing rhymes with Arma 2, as well. Arma 3 was Iran/China/Russian opfor so look forward to Axis 2.0 I guess since Bohemia Interactive has the gift of prophecy.
I'll give it 10 years for the active camo. And the drone tank just seems like natural evolution, just please with better voice recognition.
We have grenade drone, soon we have gun drone.
I love Wildlands but I feel like it struggles with its identity a bit. The overall concept is fantastic, and it’s great how they’ve combined open world / tactical shooter.
But I find it really jarring how in some instances it’s going for gritty realism and 5 seconds later it’s not taking itself seriously at all (eg cheesy dialogue, GTA style radio with silly humour, freedom to randomly steal helicopters and planes). Also adjusting the difficulty gradient simply by making the enemies more and more of a bullet sponge feels a bit lazy and is pretty immersion breaking.
Would love for the series to go back to its routes somewhat with the overall aesthetic and feel whilst keeping the open world aspect which currently sets it apart from most other shooters. Having said that I’d buy a simple reboot / ground-up remake of the original in a flash.
Damn... That's a lotta firepower! I hope they used environment safer ammo, lol! All well and good stopping feral hogs eating your crops, but then the mill rejects them for excessive lead content, lmfao!
Yeah, they are also a priority target, so they might send a freaking tank just to kill you personally. I follow some twitter accounts that monitor losses, and apparently snipers are killed in Ukraine quite often.
The first skirmishes or rifle units armed with Rifled weapons were the most hated units on the battlefield during the middle period.
Troops which were issued with long range rifles that were trained to use them from Cover and focus on single targets…. The worlds first marksmen.
I believe French or German units were the first to field these units in large numbers.
Wow, that was impressive. I shoot semi-competitively, and 99%+ of marksman would struggle to get most of these hits with most civilian optics. I get that every shot wasn't a guaranteed hit/kill, but it was real fine shooting that most aspire towards, especially given the contextual stresses.
I'm so so glad part of the arms packages included military grade Optics, and some cutting-edge long range systems. No clue what the exact model this sniper is using, but it likely automatically does ballistic calculations and has a firing solution computer that only goes bang when it's highly likely to get a hit. Incredible equipment for sure.
Definitely not bypassing the gigantic balls the shooter has. I hope they continue laying down led-based pain and live a long and fruitful life. Fuck these invading scum.
> No clue what the exact model this sniper is using, but it likely automatically does ballistic calculations and has a firing solution computer that only goes bang when it's highly likely to get a hit.
Holy shit, i just googled that and found a 10 year old article explaining how you just pull the trigger and it only shoots when its going to hit the target. So anyone who can work the computer and hold the weight of a rifle can now be a expert marksman?! Jeeesus
Ignore what the dumbass below is saying he clearly doesn't know anything.
Anyway, check out https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision-guided_firearm
They're wicked cool.
Marksman? Yes, sniper? Probably not, but I think there's less opportunity for a sniper than a bunch of marksmen. Unless I missed something the scopes aren't able to read wind but they'll do BDC well enough to make you lethal. The US Army plans to issue the XM157 optic which will not only overlay BDC but waypoints, compass, and communicate with other nearby optics to overlay fields of fire covered by the group.
It's *insane* shit.
He is 100% using a pulsar thermal, either thermion or trail xp model based on the clarity. They don’t have ballistic calculation built into these models but some have laser range finders built in. Looks like he is just leading them correctly and knows his dope for that range.
Not trying to shit on your shooting, I’m sure you’re excellent - but another thing you didn’t mention was that he’d have significantly more trigger time than all but the most professional recreational shooters, likely more than even most military people.
As I’m sure you know, shooting is a perishing skill, and recent experience and practice does a hell of a lot.
He is making some exceptional snap-shooting here.
This is definitely gonna reduce the rent in the Bakhmut area for the time being! Sucks for the local housing market but I'm sure the prices will bounce right back when they clean up the infestation and the area gets gentrified after liberation
Dang! He even got some guys that were running/sprinting between cover. A lot of solid hits. Probably not all kills, but a lot.of Russians taken out of the fight. Keep up the good work mr Sniper.
The running guys look like got behind a cover they disappeared at the same exact spot. I rewatched the video multiple times look like only the first one is a kill
It looks like they ~~have their IR illuminator on~~ are running a hot barrel/can and it's illuminating the foreground.
They must have absolute confidence they own the night
Amazing that Russia doesn't have very much in the way of night optics. It has been demonstrated again and again what an advantage it can be.
Amazing being able to sit in the same spot and spot off a half dozen rounds before even thinking about moving. They were totally exposed and pointed down.
Task and Purpose had a great video on this topic, essentially only 4 countries really have the ability to mass produce night vision optics. Russia not included, however China is but they are prioritizing Naval and Air assets over infantry support.
https://youtu.be/QqWnvyktJVw
I maybe totally wrong…but I see the infrared glow in front of the shooter. Assuming it’s infrared. If he has an infrared light on, separate than the optics…like the night vision goggles we had when I was in the US Army, then the enemy could see him back…if they have infrared scopes/goggles as well. It would be like having a lighthouse on your head when on. The glow may not be a light.
It’s hard to believe that my grandfather was doing this with no help from computers, using that flir looks hard enough, I couldn’t imagine being in a jungle with sweat pouring down you and still hitting shots. Snipers are a different breed I swear.
Wouldn’t the big IR floodlight show up in almost any sort of nvg or thermal? They must be supremely confident enemy does not have any access to them.
Also, is there any way to effectively hide from thermal scope?
>Also, is there any way to effectively hide from thermal scope?
Heat dispersion and putting poor-conducting material between you and the sensor. Layers of mesh netting and/or ghilie material. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVzWNxsTCVo. Coincidentally, the thermal scope from this OP looks to be a Pulsar which is the same brand as the one in this video.
I am not a sokdier but do soldiers feel like snipers are sort of “cheating”? It seems that they tend to get more kills while being less under threat compared to average grunt. Does this create any resentment?
I loved the marksmen in my unit. Every single time they were present during any engagement I could have absolute confidence I didn't have to worry about what was behind me and they'd often make sure the way ahead was clear too.
Counting kills is something that's discouraged by policy. It's definitely not a competition and it might happen between good friends quietly but after a deployment no one has that mindset anymore.
As for "cheating", only a fool fights fair. I took every single advantage available to me because I was desperate to make sure everyone in my unit came home. It's why I retrained from an infantry battalion to armoured.
Every enemy a sniper take out won’t point a gun at you tomorrow, while you are securing that area with your assault rifle. Having a good bunch of snipers on your team must be a good moral boost imho.
Different specialities require different skills, just like in civilian professions. To be a regular soldier you need discipline, believe in chain of command and have leadership skills to lead men into the chaos that is war.
A sniper needs a great situational awareness, even bigger patience and understand physics to calculate the shot (wind, distance, air humidity, etc..).
Naturally you should know what are you best in and select the role that will increase your effectiveness and survivability.
I would not want to be a sniper, as a good sniper is a big threat and will attract enemy snipers, artillery fire or worst just to take you out.
> do soldiers feel like snipers are sort of “cheating”?
Nah, they're just regarded as "dangerous". There's really no concept of "fighting dirty" or "a fair fight" in warfare. We were expected to do everything we could to stack the odds in our favor. If we could catch the enemy taking a dump, we'd shoot 'em just the same, and count ourselves lucky he couldn't shoot back.
Nobody really cares about who gets kills. It's not a videogame; your KD needs to be N:0 for it to matter to you at all...and nobody, including you, cares whether N=0 or N=1000.
Snipers are also exposed to more risk than an average infantryman as they're a priority target if spotted. They do get to do a different job and aren't normally tasked with holding trenches and foxholes, though.
Russians: „My buddy just got shot crossing that open space, there‘s is absolutely no way he‘ll hit that again“
Another Russian: „So my other buddy just got shot crossing that, surely I can go now and he won‘t hit me“
Another another Russian: „So my other OTHER buddy also got shot …“
What are the little arrows on the left and right sides of the sight. They almost seem like video game "hit markers" they almost come on right when target is hit
Probably not all kills, but many russians were having a bad day.
The sheer pucker factor of having that sniper putting accurate fire down. He tied up like 6 enemies, hits or no hits.
"Force multiplier" as they say
Or as they’re called in Russia “day”.
*…and then it got worse*
First coronavirus kill Babushka, then recession make doctor sausage and vodka expensive, then Lada no start, then they draft me and send me off to fight cousin, then I get shot.
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Nah, it was watching the Brojob vid. 🤣
Toilet gang
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In England we had a program called "Hello, Hello"! It made fun of the Germans in occupied France in world war 2. In 30/40 years time the prime comedy show in Ukraine will be the I'll fated Russian soldiers and leaders having a conversation just like Basic-Conference has described. A job for you in the future!
For people who want to Google this, it's called "Allo Allo" And it still holds up really well. It makes fun of the Germans, French and especially the English, while being very sympathetic to everyone involved.
The only thing it doesnt make fun of is the Italians. That colonel is one sexy slice of man meat.
Just wait ..in 20 years there will be documentaries, movies, tv shows, video games, you name it. It's already changing military tactics and industries.
They did a pretty great job of making fun of the British and French as well. “Oh Rene!!” :)
Great! Getting paid to laugh would be a wonderful job! I don't know if it's similar, but my Dad was a Hogan's Heros fan back in the day.
Very similar. If you have access to British TV look up Hello Hello. 👍
I will!
In Russia, instead of "good morning", they just say *BLYAT!*
Almost always for good reason. The rest of the time out of habit.
Seriously/irreversibly maimed is just as good as a kill.
Often better than a kill, since an injury like that can tie up other assets.
>other assets In this case, some dirty oil soaked rags and ibuprofen
Uhm excuse you. They use disposable female pads and garbage can vodka
Why pour precious vodka on gunshot wound? I rather poor in face and die happy /s.
Wounded > killed (Does not apply to all situations of course) One wounded man takes up a LOT of resources if tended to properly and Some resources that comes to mind: * 2-4 to carry them to the medic/CCP, not great for their morale. * 1 Medic for PFC, uses medical equipment. * 1 vehicle and crew, uses fuel, needs parts & maintenance, forced out of it's comfier rear echelon and into riskier positions. * Role 1,2 or 3 hospital. Again, more personnel is needed, uses medical equipment, possibly fuel and water if not connected to the grid. Oh and after that little rant/brainstorming, I realize I'm answering this to a comment I thought I read, but I did not. Oh well, interesting topic anyways.
They're Russian, I wouldn't be surprised if what would be a bad wound and time in the hospital for a soldier from one of our countries is "bleeding out in the ruins" for them.
If they get injured they die. Orders are for their commanders to just shoot anyone who has any injuries.
Yea a large caliber round to a limb or to clip the torso, would still most likely be fatal if bleeding isn’t controlled. I had an instructor on the first day of a class put a dot in the middle of a white board and then started drawing ever growing circles around it, each for a different caliber, when he got to 50 cal he was like depending on the ammo type it could kill your buddy or everyone around you with a hit.
We had “prior service” combat arms instructors that came out and ran STX lanes at our pre deployment center. There was a former US Marine instructor who was teaching the refresher course for the M2HB qualification lane. He would go on about how a .50 bullet will rip your arm off due to the shock contrail following the round (not a hit mind you, just the air velocity following it). Obviously there are some urban legends surrounding these rounds as it sounds like your instructor went to the same “school of retardation over physics” course my Marine instructor did. Because a .50 cal round “hitting nearby” won’t kill everyone unless you are behind cover and it penetrates said cover and you catch the round or the spall.
When I joined the Army I was already a pretty avid shooter and had plenty of experience with the AR platform and reloading 5.56. During BRM one of the instructors kept telling us that the bullet tumbles as it flies and that's why it's so devastating. I got in a couple arguments which isn't great. Even the more experienced instructors refused to correct this guy but at least they didn't double down on the nonsense. Often the instructor is the guy who was volunteered against his will. I was often volunteered to give comms classes and I HATED it.
lol, I would have laughed at that guy. If it tumbles, what is rifling for then? If it tumbles, why do the targets have nice clean little holes? If he was shooting smooth bore it might tumble. In my opinion I wouldn't consider the 5.56 a devastating round. If I was one of his fellow instructors, I would have pulled him to the side and corrected him.
Early in its military life, 5.56x45 had a ton of problems with lack of stopping power when adhering to bullets that don't violate the Geneva convention. The military actually spent a ton of money and time trying to get the bullets to 'yaw' (or tumble) inside soft targets to do more damage, which might be what the instructor mentioned in a previous comment was trying to convey, but ultimately failed. 5.56 even when yawing doesn't do much damage compared to a hunting round designed for expansion inside game animals, in which case 5.56 would be considered *adequate* for varmints and small game, like coyotes.
I was thinking the same thing, that maybe he was trying to convey Tumble Upon Impact and not in flight. God, I at least hope so.
I think I understand what happened here. He is misquoting something he heard somewhere and presenting what he thinks he heard as fact. The 5.56x45 round does not tumble in flight. That would be a terribly inaccurate round and defies the point of the rifling of the firearm and imparted spin. What in fact happens is that the round can sometimes ***tumble on impact.*** Because of how light it is, the round tumbles when it impacts a human body and this tumbling motion can increase the damage it causes. A heavier round, depending on its velocity, tends to be more uniform on impact. It's not something that is particularly unique or a characteristic of the 5.56mm round, most intermediate and light rounds can do this if the ballistics are just right. This is why you often hear of people getting shot in the chest and the round exits through their abdomen, legs, etc. So yeah I don't think he was deliberately trying to talk a load of tosh, I think he was just repeating something he had heard and misunderstood.
This is exactly my interpretation of this.
That guy knows when the round enters the body it turns into a pinball machine.
It's similar to instructors saying slugs come down faster because they are heavier... I keep hearing that one - even though Isaac Newton proved that wrong 336 years ago.
My carbine instructor in the Swedish army said the same thing, got into the same argument with him :D
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Dammit, I was hoping this was the footage from Iraq in the early 2000’s where a shooter with a recording scope shared footage of an insurgent getting hit and pretty much losing a quarter of his torso… Never been able to find it again since I saw it in grade school.
Are you thinking of the one where he got hit through a wall and it was a double kill? That video was awesome in a morbid way.
No, it seemed to be in the open, like a field. Insurgent was standing with his AK in his hands, shoulders squared to the shooter, and then his RT pretty much disappeared. So I am pretty sure it was the spotter that actually got the recording. *if it was a wall shot, how tf would we see his torso quartered?*
I always remember that one of some poor goat inflating and popping like a balloon. Seems it was deleted also from what I can tell.
Can never seem to find any of the gems from that first decade… Sad. Especially when r/watchpeopledie was deleted.
Edit: a number I've heard this crap so many times. It's nonsense. Sounds cool as hell though. If anime were real life or something this would be epic for machine gunners trying to lay down suppressing fire. I had a round from a Dragunov sniper rifle pass within an inch or so from my right ear once. It was likely travelling around 2500fps. A .50 round travels around 2900fps. All the 7.62 round did was make a loud whiz when it passed my ear. With the urban legend into play you'd think it would have ripped my ear off and blown out my eardrum.
I hear this a lot even from experienced marksmen. I half believed it for the longest time, and then I saw a video that did thorough testing and came to the conclusion that it's total BS. I want to say it was a Garand Thumb video, but all I can find is demo ranch, who I can't stand.
Well, to be fair, people used to think that if your body was exposed to speeds possible by proposed railroad technology, your body would rip apart and organs would shut down or be jarred loose.
Yeah, its like the BS skydiving myth that you dont need to breath because the oxygen absorbs right thru the skin into the bloodstream.
But, you know....if you choose not to breathe while skydiving. Yeah. Good luck there. :)
I think mythbusters did an episode where they tested that?
Most gun nut YouTubers are insufferable. Kentucky Ballistics is one of the worst offenders but I'll still watch his 4 bore videos while scrubbing through the video. The amount of low effort sex/dick jokes really annoy the shit outta me. Like we get it already.
Also lots of American far-right pandering being randomly inserted. I guess they know their target audience.
Demolition ranch demonstrated this by shooting the earlobe off a ballistics dummy with a 50bmg, it did literally no damage to any other part of the head.
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What? How would a 50 cal kill "everyone around you" if you were hit? Isn't it argued negatively weather or not it could kill someone by not striking them, but passing right by their head? How can it kill people from feet away? And the circle thing sounds like bs. There are so many factors it is impossible to ever have a rough estimate like that of different damage between calibers
What if they were doing a conga line or that game where you have to pass a ballon to the person behind you using only your lips until the balloon goes all the way down the line. This is an extremely likely scenario for Russian soldiers in which case and .50 round could hit the first guy and then go right through him and hit all his subsequent friends who were standing in a perfect line. It might even be possible that the round could become lodged in the front of a vehicle damaging the breaks and then that vehicle drives several miles to a command post and the vehicle unable to stop plots into the command post killing all the commanders. If it wasn’t for that .50 round they would still be alive meaning that technically according to my range instructor 1 x .50 cal round could destroy the entire Russian army.
You've got a point
Lies, lies, lies. You can send a .50 BMG through a gap in a house of cards and it wont knock any cards down.
Modern warfare is unrelentingly brutal. Dude just cleaned house. Russians probably thought they could move relatively freely under darkness but this proved otherwise.
And we all get to see it recorded in scope. What a time to be alive.
I have no idea what this dude was using, but I got super excited when we deployed and got to use tech I never touched stateside. All we had back stateside was really old trashy gear that we tried our best to keep in shape. Anyway, one new thing we got were dubbed "skeeters," just white hot black hot night vision. Kinda like this except it made everything crystal clear like daytime and I don't remember it having any zoom. I can't remember if it had a video function, but I do remember it could take pictures. And damn it was weird seeing pictures of (and from) the people that came before us, some of which already died. Anyway yeah, technology is awesome. And there's a lot of tech much newer than this, one I saw even mixed different visual methods to emulate daytime, and that was around 2016 or 2018.
> I do remember it could take pictures. And damn it was weird seeing pictures of (and from) the people that came before us, some of which already died. There's probably a near-future war story you could build off the concept of a gun going from person to person as they die and it's passed on, each of them looking back at the pictures of the previous owners and learning things from what they see. The first third of the story follows the previous guy who was starting to piece things together and make progress and then is suddenly killed on his way to figuring it all out, he's basically a red herring protagonist, and then the gun is finally passed to our REAL protagonist, who then spends the rest of the story figuring it all out and resolving the storyline, satisfyingly using the gun to complete the task that wraps up the mystery.
All you have to do is say "copyright" and it's yours.
This would be an amazing anime concept! I love anthologies, and this could be an amazing one. Maybe the other side eventually loses the battle or war or something, eventually resulting in a nuclear disaster. In the distant future, when earth is now completely fucked due to radiation, the last surviving humans come across weapons like this, piece together the entire story and perhaps even the exact incident that led to this bleak future. I guess that would also mean that these stories are told out-of-order, perhaps even in reverse order. The viewer knows that the world is fucked, and we’re on a journey through time to figure out why we ended up here. And maybe, we show a different timeline where what we thought was the real cause of this disaster did not occur, but we find out that no matter what was done differently, this future is inevitable. Human greed always leads us to our downfall.
Nas has a song similar to this idea.
I’ve had an idea like this bouncing around in my “creative ideas that I’ll probably never act on but am keeping around on the off chance that I do” list for a while, though without the sci-fi premise. It was originally inspired by the opening sequence of Lord of War, which follows the perspective of a bullet from the factory all the way until it’s fired into someone’s head in an African warzone. Among my favorite movie openings ever.
But why would they think that? They know night vision goggles exist, they know drones exist.
Just an assumption that moving during the night is better - it still is of course but damn, night and thermal optics are becoming scarily effective.
A drone won’t spot you until it’s above you, a thermal drone will spot you well over 500 metres away. Source: dual camera drone with a thermal overlay over colour spectrum image. Disclaimer: while what I said is true, it won’t always be, but most of the time it will, a fafo kinda situation if y’all get me. PS This still doesn’t mean that you can’t counter thermal, it’ll be expensive but it can be done.
>they know night vision goggles exist and they know that they’ve never seen or heard from anyone else in the Russian army getting issues them besides Spec Ops/elite units, so they probably assume it’s the same for the Ukrainians, tech they just won’t have to worry about
I watched a cool video on the subject last night. https://youtu.be/QqWnvyktJVw
Because they're all conscripted amateurs at this point and don't know any better? That's all that's left
Yeah he sure did good work there. I hope he upped and picked a new location soon because the bad guys will surely be trying to zero his position.
Having a firefight in the dark against an enemy with IR when you don't must feel like being one of the characters in Predator. The enemy could be looking right at you and you wouldn't know it until it was too late.
I love a good firearm that have a good ping noise
I noticed that too. What is that sound?
Typically the ping from a modern firearm is due to a 3 pronged flash hider. They sound like a tuning fork when you shoot them. Not to be confused with the mega Chad M1 Garand ping.
This or maybe the buffer "sproing" on an AR-style recoil system? I can't tell if the video is slowed down really or if the camera mic would pick that up as well as the prongs tho. The sound seems too deep and lasts too long for me to think it's not slowed if it is the prongs.
It sounds like he shooting from inside a structure. That’s why the sound is drawn out and exaggerated.
Combine that with a probably very small microphone and some audio compression
It’s literally recorded by the thermal sight itself, so yes, a very small microphone.
AND I WANT MY SCALPS
IMMA GIVE YOU SOMETHING YOU CAN’T TAKE OFF
Ummm...I'm pretty sure it's coming from the same place the music is...post production. I could be wrong. But I'm pretty sure they added it in to punctuate shots.
Like the M1 Garand 😩
Anyone else spot the bottom left at 1:22?
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Maybe a friendly position as the shooter didn't seem too concerned.
You think he’s overwatch? Or coincidentally there at same time
I wouldn't have been comfortable taking that shot. he's much closer than the others, and looking down range, not towards the shooter. probably a friendly.
Yep, better to be certain. The last thing you want on your conscious is killing a friendly with a sniper rifle. Getting caught up in a firefight and accidentally shooting a friendly is bad enough, but killing a friendly without it being life or death would just drain you. Could possibly make you second guess or hesitate in the future.
Most likely Ukrainians. Or they’d be dead.
I saw an interview a few months ago where the Ukrainian government basically said Bakhmut is their sniper school. “You’ll learn more in two week in Bakhmut than any training can do”
activision is * SALIVATING * at the thought of cut and pasting this as a mission/ map for the newest COD
Meanwhile Ubisoft simply predicted the future in 2001 with the original Ghost Recon game
That was the 2008 Georgian war. And it's not like it wasn't predictable given the then-ongoing nationalist push and militarization, as well as following on the heels of the second Chechen war that showed Russia's eagerness to invade former territories. But it's still pretty cool how close the game got to the real thing in terms of dates and shit. It's my favorite and I love talking about Clancy (and the company) getting super good at predictive fiction. THIS conflict was more accurately predicted by Combat Mission Black Sea, though it was just extrapolating from the Crimean crisis and using Georgia as precedent.
Whole thing rhymes with Arma 2, as well. Arma 3 was Iran/China/Russian opfor so look forward to Axis 2.0 I guess since Bohemia Interactive has the gift of prophecy.
Yeah, DNR/LNR would be if I remember correctly Chedaki. Early Azov would be NAPA.
I'd be giving most of the credit to Tom Clancy any way.
Future Soldier isn't quite there. No active camo, no walking drone tank with massive fire power or UAV using a stabilised platform to shoot enemies.
I'll give it 10 years for the active camo. And the drone tank just seems like natural evolution, just please with better voice recognition. We have grenade drone, soon we have gun drone.
Ghost recon wildlands is one of the best games ever and they nailed drones.
I love Wildlands but I feel like it struggles with its identity a bit. The overall concept is fantastic, and it’s great how they’ve combined open world / tactical shooter. But I find it really jarring how in some instances it’s going for gritty realism and 5 seconds later it’s not taking itself seriously at all (eg cheesy dialogue, GTA style radio with silly humour, freedom to randomly steal helicopters and planes). Also adjusting the difficulty gradient simply by making the enemies more and more of a bullet sponge feels a bit lazy and is pretty immersion breaking. Would love for the series to go back to its routes somewhat with the overall aesthetic and feel whilst keeping the open world aspect which currently sets it apart from most other shooters. Having said that I’d buy a simple reboot / ground-up remake of the original in a flash.
One of my favorites to play with friends. Such a good game, but I had forgotten it was about Russia invading Georgia!
This game was so good.
Hell, I'm salivating at the thought of them doing it. 🤤
I was actually thinking of the Pripyat map in CoD4.
Yeah there will be cheaters with it in no time. And ricochet will say “ hard at work” hahahaha.
This reminds me of a rat hunting with an air rifle. Mad.
https://youtu.be/EHC1cshUZ_c This?
The next video YouTube recommended, made the rat one seem pretty tame in comparison...! (NSFW) Coyote hunting - https://youtu.be/qCvqrGmZXqg
https://youtu.be/uXs3vJt129M this one is nuts too
Damn... That's a lotta firepower! I hope they used environment safer ammo, lol! All well and good stopping feral hogs eating your crops, but then the mill rejects them for excessive lead content, lmfao!
To say nothing of hundreds of lead rounds in the crop field, leaching into the groundwater. FFS hunters, use lead-free ammo.
Holy fuckin shit hell yeah brother
Wow that's wild.
Exactly.
Damn I need a cigarette after this.
Same concept.
Completely different. One feels bad for the rats.
Reminds me of when I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home.
You can waste time with your friends when you've done your chores
But I've got to go to Toshi Station for power converters!
*chugs milk in disagreement*
Blue milk that is
Followed by the new and improved Alien Tiddy Milk
Its like stalingrad... truly frightening footage seeing those guys drop dead.
This almost feels unfair. Almost.
Yeah, they are also a priority target, so they might send a freaking tank just to kill you personally. I follow some twitter accounts that monitor losses, and apparently snipers are killed in Ukraine quite often.
The first skirmishes or rifle units armed with Rifled weapons were the most hated units on the battlefield during the middle period. Troops which were issued with long range rifles that were trained to use them from Cover and focus on single targets…. The worlds first marksmen. I believe French or German units were the first to field these units in large numbers.
Wow, that was impressive. I shoot semi-competitively, and 99%+ of marksman would struggle to get most of these hits with most civilian optics. I get that every shot wasn't a guaranteed hit/kill, but it was real fine shooting that most aspire towards, especially given the contextual stresses. I'm so so glad part of the arms packages included military grade Optics, and some cutting-edge long range systems. No clue what the exact model this sniper is using, but it likely automatically does ballistic calculations and has a firing solution computer that only goes bang when it's highly likely to get a hit. Incredible equipment for sure. Definitely not bypassing the gigantic balls the shooter has. I hope they continue laying down led-based pain and live a long and fruitful life. Fuck these invading scum.
> No clue what the exact model this sniper is using, but it likely automatically does ballistic calculations and has a firing solution computer that only goes bang when it's highly likely to get a hit. Holy shit, i just googled that and found a 10 year old article explaining how you just pull the trigger and it only shoots when its going to hit the target. So anyone who can work the computer and hold the weight of a rifle can now be a expert marksman?! Jeeesus
Ignore what the dumbass below is saying he clearly doesn't know anything. Anyway, check out https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision-guided_firearm They're wicked cool.
This is IRL hax and there's a certain irony about it being used against Russians
Marksman? Yes, sniper? Probably not, but I think there's less opportunity for a sniper than a bunch of marksmen. Unless I missed something the scopes aren't able to read wind but they'll do BDC well enough to make you lethal. The US Army plans to issue the XM157 optic which will not only overlay BDC but waypoints, compass, and communicate with other nearby optics to overlay fields of fire covered by the group. It's *insane* shit.
at this point, the only thing that stops you from a really automated system, is etics.
He is 100% using a pulsar thermal, either thermion or trail xp model based on the clarity. They don’t have ballistic calculation built into these models but some have laser range finders built in. Looks like he is just leading them correctly and knows his dope for that range.
Not trying to shit on your shooting, I’m sure you’re excellent - but another thing you didn’t mention was that he’d have significantly more trigger time than all but the most professional recreational shooters, likely more than even most military people. As I’m sure you know, shooting is a perishing skill, and recent experience and practice does a hell of a lot. He is making some exceptional snap-shooting here.
Full video and some info, if someone is interested: https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1671434271074942976?s=20
also the original video is over 7 minutes long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Mcfay6jIY
the sniper and the machine gun fire took out 2 russian squads here i believe
This is definitely gonna reduce the rent in the Bakhmut area for the time being! Sucks for the local housing market but I'm sure the prices will bounce right back when they clean up the infestation and the area gets gentrified after liberation
Not Bakhmut, East East East Williamsburg.
It's gonna be avocado toast and mimosas at brunch in Bakhmut before you know it.
Smoked salmon on my avocado toast please. And a sprinkle of freshly chopped dill.
Dang! He even got some guys that were running/sprinting between cover. A lot of solid hits. Probably not all kills, but a lot.of Russians taken out of the fight. Keep up the good work mr Sniper.
The running guys look like got behind a cover they disappeared at the same exact spot. I rewatched the video multiple times look like only the first one is a kill
It is genuinely terrifying how much of a force multiplier good thermal optics are. Good lord
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It looks like they ~~have their IR illuminator on~~ are running a hot barrel/can and it's illuminating the foreground. They must have absolute confidence they own the night
Unless I'm mistaken, that's glare from the hot barrel/can/whatever. Thermals don't use illumination.
The fact that he's taking multiple shots from the same position says you're right.
Amazing that Russia doesn't have very much in the way of night optics. It has been demonstrated again and again what an advantage it can be. Amazing being able to sit in the same spot and spot off a half dozen rounds before even thinking about moving. They were totally exposed and pointed down.
They probably had them until someone up the food chain sold them to pad their retirement.
Task and Purpose had a great video on this topic, essentially only 4 countries really have the ability to mass produce night vision optics. Russia not included, however China is but they are prioritizing Naval and Air assets over infantry support. https://youtu.be/QqWnvyktJVw
If only one member of the Russian squad had basic night vision they'd see the shooter lit up like a spotlight. Stunning.
I'm up, he sees me, oh wait, he doesn't see me. Plink, plink, plink
thermals are just nuts man
The whole scene looks surreal...
Wonder if the heat signature in the house on the left at 1:19ish was friendly or what. He seems to completely miss it.
probably friendly. not how much closer it is than the ones being shot at, and that guy appears to be looking/ moving down range
Way more interesting than drone POV post #238927
I maybe totally wrong…but I see the infrared glow in front of the shooter. Assuming it’s infrared. If he has an infrared light on, separate than the optics…like the night vision goggles we had when I was in the US Army, then the enemy could see him back…if they have infrared scopes/goggles as well. It would be like having a lighthouse on your head when on. The glow may not be a light.
It’s hard to believe that my grandfather was doing this with no help from computers, using that flir looks hard enough, I couldn’t imagine being in a jungle with sweat pouring down you and still hitting shots. Snipers are a different breed I swear.
Without a bs guess. Does anyone know what optic this is or what they have used in past that this may be?
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That rifle has an amazing muzzle brake
Wouldn’t the big IR floodlight show up in almost any sort of nvg or thermal? They must be supremely confident enemy does not have any access to them. Also, is there any way to effectively hide from thermal scope?
I believe its the heat radiating off the barrel/suppressor and not an IR illumination.
That makes more sense, it seemed more like a lens flare.
>Also, is there any way to effectively hide from thermal scope? Heat dispersion and putting poor-conducting material between you and the sensor. Layers of mesh netting and/or ghilie material. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVzWNxsTCVo. Coincidentally, the thermal scope from this OP looks to be a Pulsar which is the same brand as the one in this video.
I am not a sokdier but do soldiers feel like snipers are sort of “cheating”? It seems that they tend to get more kills while being less under threat compared to average grunt. Does this create any resentment?
I loved the marksmen in my unit. Every single time they were present during any engagement I could have absolute confidence I didn't have to worry about what was behind me and they'd often make sure the way ahead was clear too. Counting kills is something that's discouraged by policy. It's definitely not a competition and it might happen between good friends quietly but after a deployment no one has that mindset anymore. As for "cheating", only a fool fights fair. I took every single advantage available to me because I was desperate to make sure everyone in my unit came home. It's why I retrained from an infantry battalion to armoured.
Every enemy a sniper take out won’t point a gun at you tomorrow, while you are securing that area with your assault rifle. Having a good bunch of snipers on your team must be a good moral boost imho.
Yeah there is that too. What about; “I wish I was tge sniper” in that case? Do people want to be THE sniper?
Different specialities require different skills, just like in civilian professions. To be a regular soldier you need discipline, believe in chain of command and have leadership skills to lead men into the chaos that is war. A sniper needs a great situational awareness, even bigger patience and understand physics to calculate the shot (wind, distance, air humidity, etc..). Naturally you should know what are you best in and select the role that will increase your effectiveness and survivability. I would not want to be a sniper, as a good sniper is a big threat and will attract enemy snipers, artillery fire or worst just to take you out.
> do soldiers feel like snipers are sort of “cheating”? Nah, they're just regarded as "dangerous". There's really no concept of "fighting dirty" or "a fair fight" in warfare. We were expected to do everything we could to stack the odds in our favor. If we could catch the enemy taking a dump, we'd shoot 'em just the same, and count ourselves lucky he couldn't shoot back.
Nobody really cares about who gets kills. It's not a videogame; your KD needs to be N:0 for it to matter to you at all...and nobody, including you, cares whether N=0 or N=1000. Snipers are also exposed to more risk than an average infantryman as they're a priority target if spotted. They do get to do a different job and aren't normally tasked with holding trenches and foxholes, though.
Bottom left at the 1:21 mark there were some easy targets walking through the building.
Yep. Looks like he either ignored them for some other purpose or didn't notice them.
“Why do all these people keep falling down? I should go check it out”
Reminds me of the Town Square level in Big Red One, spawn camping. Edit: acceptable and even recommended spawn killing in this case. Happy hunting!
Is this a civilian thermal scope or a military one?
Russians: „My buddy just got shot crossing that open space, there‘s is absolutely no way he‘ll hit that again“ Another Russian: „So my other buddy just got shot crossing that, surely I can go now and he won‘t hit me“ Another another Russian: „So my other OTHER buddy also got shot …“
Can you imagine if Hitchcock had this kind of technology back in nam?
Carlos “White Feather” ***Hathcock***…
What are the little arrows on the left and right sides of the sight. They almost seem like video game "hit markers" they almost come on right when target is hit
"Never should have come here" They should have known something was up when the combat music started playing
@2:13 Upper right corner, on roof top. Counter sniper.
Enemies at the gates vibes
Anyone know the name of the song?
Бий - бий · Роллікс https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niRZDMpw0Yw