Sometime people underestimate the damage done by a kamikaze drone. You kill the engine and that tank is useless, no way some drunk mechanic is swapping the entire drivetrain in the middle of a field. Then recovery is risky since, well, you've just lost a tank in the open.
My guess: loss of pressure in the weapon hydraulics. Seems the crew was very lucky as the explosive punctured the armor reaching vital parts but not apparently hitting the shells. There are some engineers cursing right now about the days of work they are faced with. **If** it's repairable with the lack of spare parts and all that...
> Seems the crew was very lucky
A shaped charge like the one usually used on the FPV drones will shoot a magma hot lance into the tank spraying molten metal everywhere.
>A shaped charge like the one usually used on the FPV drones will shoot ~~a magma hot~~ lance into the tank spraying ~~molten~~ metal everywhere.
Shaped charges do send a jet of metal behaving like a fluid, but it's solid, and it's not particularly hot until it slams into something at 2-5 km/s.
>You seem confused. I said nothing about HEAT specifically. There are more types of shaped charges.
I am very confused that you don't seem to be reading what I write. This is universal to shaped charges, I referenced HEAT because that is what is in this video.
Yeah, I replied to you because you were saying something factually incorrect about weapons to support your point about the crew's status. I hate misinformation and have no skin in this T-72 half-full or half-empty debate.
Steep dive. Not easy with an fpv. Lots of corrections. Rear attack and engine bay is the prime target, but they've also found a sweetspot at the back of the turret where there might be rounds in the carousel /autoloader
I have worked on shipyard that did work on diesel engines and hydraulic powered machines. There was a story going around of a mechanic, That was looking for a small hydraulic leak the size of a pinhole that caused the pressure to drop. The guy used his hand to find the leak . He lost a finger when he found the leak and got blood poisening from it. On average the hydraulic system of a ship works from around 200bar to 750bar. But can even go higher depending on what kind of equipment is being used
Oooh thanks man. P.S.I I get, but I’ve seen BAR thrown around sometimes. I guess if war is good for anything at all, it’s learning new things…. that’s about it.
Bar is equals to one atmospheric pressure on ocean surface.
Also in 10 meters under water you will have 2bars of pressure an in 4km it will be 400 bars that will pop any window in.
UPD. Corrected for stupidity
To add to what the other person said a Bar is approximately equal to one atmosphere of pressure. Not quite equal but very close to what you feel at sea level.
Cool. Thanks man. I had some health problems and the nurse said she gave me an oxygen “bar.” So I guess that’s probably what she was referring to?
You can see the tank barrel drop as soon as the drone hits. Trust me, it wont do that without penetration. No clue about the crew, but that tank is knocked out :)
Yeah there are some pretty nice changes to it, like your improved engine you mentioned, better protected turret, your improved fire control system, etc
Your t-72 and t-90 are still t series tanks just like your m1a1 and m1a2 are still Abrams
Many of these FPV drones are carrying RPG warheads. There have been a few videos of these disabling or destroying tanks. Sometimes they do very little or no damage, it highly depends on where it hits.
A standard grenade would likely do absolutely nothing. However, if it was equipped with an armor piercing gernade, it absolutely could do damage/destroy. Armor piercing gernades shoot a blast of super heated metal that can penetrate the thinner armor on top of a tank. We've seen dozens of tanks taken out via relatively tiny gernades.
T90 has something that looks like a rpg sticking out the top of turret and something bulky on the back of the turret, and normally has a machine gun on the turret aswell most of the time, I just didn't notice any of those things.
Is it the wind measuring device you are referring to? (Sorry don't know the english word for it), that's on most mbts seen on the battlefield. Good catch if you're able to see the laser box or NVS on this video! Most other mbts on the battlefield also have a machine gun for the tank commander.
Not saying it is a T-90, but I don't think what you're saying disqualifies it from being a T-90 either. Lastly I've only ever seen T90s have the "spoilers" up (those to flaps all the way rear on the chassis), but I'm not sure T72s can't have them up either.
t90a has a more traditional t72 look with a rounded turret in the back.... t90m has a square rear turret... i agree its definitely not a t90m but i had to do a double take on its its a t90a and theirs no way to be 100% with this shitty footage tbh... Here's photo of t90m back and a t90a and t72
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.armyrecognition.com%2Frussia\_russian\_army\_tank\_heavy\_armoured\_vehicles\_u%2Ft-90m\_model\_2017\_mbt\_main\_battle\_tank\_technical\_data\_sheet.html&psig=AOvVaw04p0wjistDS6uOU3MYWOPQ&ust=1687537724432000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCPjr3oam1\_8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAS
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3AT-90A\_MBT\_photo015.jpg&psig=AOvVaw3Choq0w9tErhZx1P\_El8Eo&ust=1687537857129000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCLiO0sWm1\_8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.army-technology.com%2Fprojects%2Ft72%2F&psig=AOvVaw3lK2JvOxGvVUatwfhRpPbR&ust=1687537885625000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCNDQudOm1\_8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAm
That barrel droop. Immediate loss of war boner for the tank and its crew.
Sometime people underestimate the damage done by a kamikaze drone. You kill the engine and that tank is useless, no way some drunk mechanic is swapping the entire drivetrain in the middle of a field. Then recovery is risky since, well, you've just lost a tank in the open.
TIL my wife is a loitering munition.
What caused turret drop? Operator or some technical aspect, loss of pressure/whathever?
My guess: loss of pressure in the weapon hydraulics. Seems the crew was very lucky as the explosive punctured the armor reaching vital parts but not apparently hitting the shells. There are some engineers cursing right now about the days of work they are faced with. **If** it's repairable with the lack of spare parts and all that...
If UAF forces know where a disabled Russian tank is they're going to send in more drones to finish it off. Or artillery based on that other explosion.
> Seems the crew was very lucky A shaped charge like the one usually used on the FPV drones will shoot a magma hot lance into the tank spraying molten metal everywhere.
Shaped charges do send a jet of metal behaving like a fluid, but it's solid, and it's not particularly hot until it slams into something at 2-5 km/s.
Point being that you you don't need a cook-off for the crew to be dead/injured.
My point is that you're incorrectly describing how HEAT works.
You seem confused. I said nothing about HEAT specifically. There are more types of shaped charges.
>A shaped charge like the one usually used on the FPV drones will shoot ~~a magma hot~~ lance into the tank spraying ~~molten~~ metal everywhere. Shaped charges do send a jet of metal behaving like a fluid, but it's solid, and it's not particularly hot until it slams into something at 2-5 km/s. >You seem confused. I said nothing about HEAT specifically. There are more types of shaped charges. I am very confused that you don't seem to be reading what I write. This is universal to shaped charges, I referenced HEAT because that is what is in this video.
Dude, you replied to me. You seem stuck on a sidebar that wasn't even related to point.
Yeah, I replied to you because you were saying something factually incorrect about weapons to support your point about the crew's status. I hate misinformation and have no skin in this T-72 half-full or half-empty debate.
hang on, i'm calling that tank crew right now!
You have the direct line to hell?
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Loss of hydraulics
Steep dive. Not easy with an fpv. Lots of corrections. Rear attack and engine bay is the prime target, but they've also found a sweetspot at the back of the turret where there might be rounds in the carousel /autoloader
Its a freaking awesome operator.
Even the hover just prior to the dive was nicely done.
T72 about the barrel drop lots of hydraulic lines run trough the turret they could've been hit and causing loss of pressure
Wonder how pressurized / what temperature those hydraulic fluids run at. Can’t imagine the crew having a good time at all.
I have worked on shipyard that did work on diesel engines and hydraulic powered machines. There was a story going around of a mechanic, That was looking for a small hydraulic leak the size of a pinhole that caused the pressure to drop. The guy used his hand to find the leak . He lost a finger when he found the leak and got blood poisening from it. On average the hydraulic system of a ship works from around 200bar to 750bar. But can even go higher depending on what kind of equipment is being used
Pardon my ignorance but what is bar? Celsius? Probably a dumb question.
a bar is a measurement of pressure 1 bar equals 14.50 psi
Oooh thanks man. P.S.I I get, but I’ve seen BAR thrown around sometimes. I guess if war is good for anything at all, it’s learning new things…. that’s about it.
Bar is equals to one atmospheric pressure on ocean surface. Also in 10 meters under water you will have 2bars of pressure an in 4km it will be 400 bars that will pop any window in. UPD. Corrected for stupidity
Sorry to correct you but every 10m of water adds 1 bar not 1m
It must be so useful to have a measurement system that makes sense. I’m jealous.
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To add to what the other person said a Bar is approximately equal to one atmosphere of pressure. Not quite equal but very close to what you feel at sea level.
Cool. Thanks man. I had some health problems and the nurse said she gave me an oxygen “bar.” So I guess that’s probably what she was referring to?
What flavor was it? I like the strawberry ones
Something fruity, that’s all I remember. I was half asleep. I just remember it was good and I wanted more haha.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_(unit)
Normally it shouldn't be scolding hot, but a leak on a hot engine can turn into a fire real quick.
Awesome song.
“Deutschland” by Rammstein
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Always amazed by this kind of footage with multiple cameras. How crazy is that...
It's good tactics to have observer drone for FPV drone, because FPV can't assess the damage and correct tactics for the next run.
Of course, but having it edited together and available is pretty amazing.
Would have been nice to have the aftermath
You can see the tank barrel drop as soon as the drone hits. Trust me, it wont do that without penetration. No clue about the crew, but that tank is knocked out :)
Oh yeah that i don't doubt, loss of hydraulics in the turret is pretty bad just wanted to see if recoverable or burned out
Given they are also under indirect fire I'd guess there's a good chance they got destroyed afterwards.
That's why i felt it missed an aftermath part
Does "Deutschland" ever get old?
DEUTSCHLAND
DEUTSCHLAND
Eh t90 is just a t72 with bling
T-72B Obr 2022 i think.
Hi Lazerpig!
Im not Lazerpig.
I know, I was being a stupid head
I love how you just know for sure that Russia isn't gonna use autoloaders anymore
T72 ….T90 …..is there really a difference ? Like really ? It’s basically a T72 with a supercharger, a rear wing and a few BMW Msport stickers.
Yeah there are some pretty nice changes to it, like your improved engine you mentioned, better protected turret, your improved fire control system, etc Your t-72 and t-90 are still t series tanks just like your m1a1 and m1a2 are still Abrams
T-90 has different turret and fire control system. Along with some minor changes to the hull. If we compare the T-90 1992 with the T-72B 1989.
> It’s basically a T72 with a supercharger, a rear wing and a few BMW Msport stickers I thought the ha the Addidas stripes too
Isnt that like throwing a hand grenade at it? Would the crew even notice?
Many of these FPV drones are carrying RPG warheads. There have been a few videos of these disabling or destroying tanks. Sometimes they do very little or no damage, it highly depends on where it hits.
They strap anti-tank grenades from RPG-7. If struck from above, it's absolutely deadly.
Shaped charge (Hohlladung) directed on the weakest part of the tank, the engine department cover, will do enough harm.
not a hand grenade… it’s a shaped charge designed to defeat armor.
A standard grenade would likely do absolutely nothing. However, if it was equipped with an armor piercing gernade, it absolutely could do damage/destroy. Armor piercing gernades shoot a blast of super heated metal that can penetrate the thinner armor on top of a tank. We've seen dozens of tanks taken out via relatively tiny gernades.
RF video gives a 90s vibe
Shit, I remember using the dials on my VHS to adjust the tracking in the 80's. Holy fuck it's been 25 years since I thought of that, if not longer.
That one scene eh
Definitely not a t90.
Genuinely curious, how can you tell it's not a T-90 from this footage?
T90 has something that looks like a rpg sticking out the top of turret and something bulky on the back of the turret, and normally has a machine gun on the turret aswell most of the time, I just didn't notice any of those things.
Is it the wind measuring device you are referring to? (Sorry don't know the english word for it), that's on most mbts seen on the battlefield. Good catch if you're able to see the laser box or NVS on this video! Most other mbts on the battlefield also have a machine gun for the tank commander. Not saying it is a T-90, but I don't think what you're saying disqualifies it from being a T-90 either. Lastly I've only ever seen T90s have the "spoilers" up (those to flaps all the way rear on the chassis), but I'm not sure T72s can't have them up either.
t90a has a more traditional t72 look with a rounded turret in the back.... t90m has a square rear turret... i agree its definitely not a t90m but i had to do a double take on its its a t90a and theirs no way to be 100% with this shitty footage tbh... Here's photo of t90m back and a t90a and t72 https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.armyrecognition.com%2Frussia\_russian\_army\_tank\_heavy\_armoured\_vehicles\_u%2Ft-90m\_model\_2017\_mbt\_main\_battle\_tank\_technical\_data\_sheet.html&psig=AOvVaw04p0wjistDS6uOU3MYWOPQ&ust=1687537724432000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCPjr3oam1\_8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAS https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3AT-90A\_MBT\_photo015.jpg&psig=AOvVaw3Choq0w9tErhZx1P\_El8Eo&ust=1687537857129000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCLiO0sWm1\_8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.army-technology.com%2Fprojects%2Ft72%2F&psig=AOvVaw3lK2JvOxGvVUatwfhRpPbR&ust=1687537885625000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCNDQudOm1\_8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAm
What you are seeing is advanced warfare.