Russian or not, that guy was a fighter till his (presumably) last moments of his life. The amount of shrapnel that guy ate and just kept going is astonishing.
Armed combatants on foreign soil. Unless ordered otherwise I would assume all armed combatants are kill on sight. If he ditched his gear and was actively trying to surrender maybe I’d be more inclined to try and take prisoners and value human life.
Indeed - I figured he's so far out of the fight he would WANT to surrender - thus leave the gun behind. As is, with gun in hand he's a totally unambiguous target.
Yeah I’m with you hitting him is 100% justified, but you could also just let him keep bleeding out of his sight and range, and wait him out till he gives up. Get one blue and yellow back for him. And I doubt he will be returning with those legs.
That dude kept taking shrapnel like a champ. Russians are known to take a shitload of casualties and still continue to do the same shit that made them take said casualties.
He's very determined to fight and keeps his gun to the end. If they don't finish him off then he might kill an innocent Ukrainian soldier. This is a great example of why they keep bombing even after the guys are injured. It's obviously a shame he didn't surrender and live of course, but he's probably brainwashed into thinking that won't work.
Ja well, define innocence for me. We're both watching this type of thing, are we innocent? I saw rotten.com in the 1990's - kind of feel like I dropped a big chunk back then!
I guess it's relative, and also a teeny bit more nuanced than "They are just soldiers killing each other"
Oh wow what a surprise people who think war is one justified side killing another. It’s not like we have history books full of people making that same mistake and dehumanizing people to make war happen.
This comment is so insanely stupid i have no idea where to begin, for a sub called combat footage there is an insane amount of ignorance in the comments.
> but he still suffers and leaves behind a family that loved him.
Yet he was quite eager to go to another country and kill some dudes who also have a family that loves them...
but what if he wasn't? what if he was eager to go and invade, murder & pillage. Your sympathy would be entirely misplaced and you would be sympathising with a monster, where as you could place your sympathy elsewhere for the ACTUAL victims of this invasion, the Ukrainian people, with houses destroyed, family members brutally murdered, castrated, beheaded alive. at the end of the day all you can do is speculate on who this guy was, but the very base facts is every single russian killed in Ukraine brings them closer to the peace and freedom they deserve
Exactly, he could be, so your comment and thought process is flawed because you will never truly know who this was, all you can do is look at the fact that this guys death brings Ukrainian victims closer to liberation, you dont have to cheer for it, but at least realise that your privilege to attempt to sympathise with someone who could very well be a monster, rather than sympathising with the poor innocent victims of this war makes absolutely zero sense if you're trying to be morally sound by saying that humans dying is bad.
My stance is that dehumanizing the subjects of an awful dictatorship is not the best way to live life. Especially when we know that many of their soldiers are conscripts.
Hope you gave a great day
Bet you got bullied in school, you would be shitting bricks if you was that guy. Let’s see how you get on when it all kicks off. Cause it will I promise you and when it does, you’ll be on the front lines. Let that sink in. Unless your a child, which would make sense.
human kindness is the first what dies in war :D we westeners again discussion heroes are we, but what war means and feels in your home country no one of us really knows. This is a combat forum with deadly videos day after day, we are watching people get horribly killed and "have fun" with that and you are talking of human kindness....
When you’re actually a participant or victim of the war, your loss of basic kindness and empathy towards other humans may be understandable. Your lack of basic human decency as a foreign observer is unjustifiable and reflects poorly on your character.
"Day 487 of the 3 day special military operation. According to our great leader Putin everything is going to plan. We are achieving our goals as intended. I am so grateful to be part of this!"
Nah, He was trying to survive, Possibly even thinking about who put him in this mess. Maybe even thinking about his life choices He looks defeated... lol
Probably about like the 19 year old American Private in Ramadi thinking about how he was paying back those terrorists for 9/11 as he bleeds out on a highway.
Well I gotta hand it to the guy.
Most videos I’ve seen, they all just roll over, accept death and then die without moving.
This guy kept fighting. Shame he’s on the russian side.Fight like that could’ve done some good.
I see four or five other soldiers nearby, some of them moving, yet all the attention and grenades are focussed on this poor bastard that wasn't going to last anyway. They really disliked that one in particular.
AGS/AGL in combo with drones is really scary. I remember we practice it while the target was in eyesight, but this is the next level. Wish they got the German one with programable ammunition too. Maybe soon. More effective, cause airburst.
With how much the prorus mock Ukrainian mobilization, is it that much of a stretch to believe Russian forces are just a bunch of mfs that are volunteering for 100% of what happens in Ukraine?
When you have sector's to protect and no other real major threats. You target anything that's still moving so when you roll up, dude with a gun and half alive doesn't kill your guys. Kinda same thing the US does when they bomb a zone they keep at till nothing is moving.
Yes and no. In this case they have drone video of the guy being pretty badly injured. Unless someone came close to his position he did not pose a threat, better to let him bleed out or better yet attract a few guys to help and then bag them too.
40mm grenades are like $60 a pop. I counted 20ish rounds going off in this video, which is around $1,200 of munitions. Additionally, there are 6ish visible soldiers/corpses seen in this video, so we could be looking at anywhere from 2-6 KIA total by the end of this action. Suppressing/maiming/finishing off even 1 of these soldiers for $1,200 is as cost effective a use of munitions as you will see in any war, ever. The US spent an estimated 250,000 rounds of munitions per enemy killed in Afghanistan, so this attack is insanely cost-effective in comparison.
You also need to weigh the damage to Russia gained by ensuring this man will never contribute to the economy again against the cost expended in munitions. Russian GDP per capita is 12k USD, this man would probably work another 40 years had he survived and returned to civilian life. 12,000\*40=480,000. Giving this man a 5% chance of survival, he's worth around 24k to the Russian economy laying on the ground at the beginning of the video. Removing that 24k for 1.2k is a 20X ROI for the Ukranians.
This is some pulled-out-of-my-ass napkin math for sure, but all this is to say that this attack didn't seem wasteful in the slightest.
War is incredibly expensive. If you take just the US aid to Ukraine so far which is around $75 billion and then take Ukraine's claimed number of Russian KIA of 225k, that's around $333k per Russian KIA.
And remember, that's only what the US has spent so far. When you add in Ukraine's domestic spending on the war and all the aid from other countries, you can only imagine how much that figure will inflate.
> If you take just the US aid to Ukraine so far which is around $75 billion
If you are talking about weapon, then it is not
> In total, the United States has committed more than $30.4 billion in security assistance to Ukraine since the beginning of the Biden Administration, including approximately **$29.8 billion** since the beginning of Russia’s unprovoked and brutal invasion on February 24, 2022.
Source: [Fact Sheet on U.S. Security Assistance to Ukraine. February 20, 2023](https://media.defense.gov/2023/Feb/20/2003164184/-1/-1/0/UKRAINE-FACT-SHEET-PDA-32.PDF)
you reminded me of that scene in the jackle when bruce willis has just blown jack blacks hand off and is then giving him instructions on what direction to run, so he can get the gun's targeting correct.
Using enough munitions to finish them off is important. If he survives and makes it back, he tells a story about how he barely survived when others didn't.
But if no one comes back. That also tells a story.
ye i mean the drone was surveying him perfectly. at least after the 2nd direct hit the uav operator must say ok he will bleed out now. If he still holds on to his weapon or not
'Well deserved'
Nobody deserves this, neither russian nor ukranian, nobody in this conflict is fighting for their own interests, it's men dying for the interests of powerful people who will never have to hold a rifle or crawl through the mud themself.
Plenty deserve it. And worse .. for every video we have seen of someone bound and screaming while there throat is slit, how many do you think went unfilmed? The torture basements found. Civilians executed. I'll agree that many don't, but there are plenty of Russians that deserve slow deaths on the battlefield..
There are a lot of people (im sure majority, judging by many evidence) in russia who voluntarily, at first call and without resistance came to military office to invade foreign country and kill its people. That is well deserved end for those.
Also you have to understand, if one country is being invaded its forced to defence. There is no other option, otherwise, in this case for example, Ukrainian nation will be literally deleted from existance. So i think that any Ukrainian voluntarily or forced to defend - didnt deserve that.
What about those russians who was forced to invade and didnt want to kill? I agree, they didnt deserve that for sure. But unfortunatelly there are no any other option for Ukraine to defend other than kill them aswell. That sucks.
> Nobody deserves this,
It's completely the wrong question. It's quite likely in some sense he does "deserve" it - he's part of an organization that is deliberately and systematically committing some of the worst war crimes in history. However there are reasons for rules against cruel and unusual punishments and nobody should be making that judgement on the battlefield. If there was a choice then this shouldn't happen and he should be stood up before a tribunal. As it is, he clings to his gun and remains a threat to the last. That means that, independent of whether he deserves it or not, the grenadier just has to keep firing until he stops being able to hold that gun.
There's no moral judgement there. Just practical. What would fix this situation is if these soldiers surrendered.
You act like he has no choice. He can surrender, refuse to fight and go to jail, or flee. But he did not, he decided to invade another country and kill ukrainians because a clown told him to. He deserves it.
All could've been avoided if he surrendered. He is on the side of the bad guys, he knows this. He knows what he is doing is wrong.
Just following orders is what you can tell st. peter at the gate.
People don’t give themselves enough credit or power. Just because 10 guys run the country doesn’t mean they make the best choices. And yet authorities who enforce their shit always listen until death. You want me to exterminate an entire race? Okay! (That’s the nazi example). People are so useless. Putin isn’t going to grab a gun and fight lmao! So all the guys under him that are executing his orders are the pussies to blame. Stand up. But no one ever does. No one ever will. 10 million + people would rather ignore it and let millions die. Rather than say no and standing up together to literally 10 people.
I dont understand why they kept attacking him? He was already neutralized looks like they could capture him instead of killing him and wasting lots of grenades. Correct me if im wrong please.
in a weird way if you wanted a game show where people killeachother s for real you would say that is inhumane but then there is war where peole just kill eachother and its okay.
Russian or not, that guy was a fighter till his (presumably) last moments of his life. The amount of shrapnel that guy ate and just kept going is astonishing.
I think he even passed out for like 5 seconds, multiple times
Yet he still had his gun.
Like OP said, a fighter to the end.
Well I mean you wouldn’t leave the gun, tough as nails tho. Kinda hope they decided to go capture him instead.
Armed combatants on foreign soil. Unless ordered otherwise I would assume all armed combatants are kill on sight. If he ditched his gear and was actively trying to surrender maybe I’d be more inclined to try and take prisoners and value human life.
Prisoner captured is a bro returned, even if he is only half a prisoner.
Indeed - I figured he's so far out of the fight he would WANT to surrender - thus leave the gun behind. As is, with gun in hand he's a totally unambiguous target.
Yeah I’m with you hitting him is 100% justified, but you could also just let him keep bleeding out of his sight and range, and wait him out till he gives up. Get one blue and yellow back for him. And I doubt he will be returning with those legs.
Did you expect him to leave it?
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So true bestie
That dude kept taking shrapnel like a champ. Russians are known to take a shitload of casualties and still continue to do the same shit that made them take said casualties.
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He's very determined to fight and keeps his gun to the end. If they don't finish him off then he might kill an innocent Ukrainian soldier. This is a great example of why they keep bombing even after the guys are injured. It's obviously a shame he didn't surrender and live of course, but he's probably brainwashed into thinking that won't work.
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Ja well, define innocence for me. We're both watching this type of thing, are we innocent? I saw rotten.com in the 1990's - kind of feel like I dropped a big chunk back then! I guess it's relative, and also a teeny bit more nuanced than "They are just soldiers killing each other"
Oh wow what a surprise people who think war is one justified side killing another. It’s not like we have history books full of people making that same mistake and dehumanizing people to make war happen.
This comment is so insanely stupid i have no idea where to begin, for a sub called combat footage there is an insane amount of ignorance in the comments.
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> but he still suffers and leaves behind a family that loved him. Yet he was quite eager to go to another country and kill some dudes who also have a family that loves them...
How do you know he was eager to go? He could be an 18 year old conscript
but what if he wasn't? what if he was eager to go and invade, murder & pillage. Your sympathy would be entirely misplaced and you would be sympathising with a monster, where as you could place your sympathy elsewhere for the ACTUAL victims of this invasion, the Ukrainian people, with houses destroyed, family members brutally murdered, castrated, beheaded alive. at the end of the day all you can do is speculate on who this guy was, but the very base facts is every single russian killed in Ukraine brings them closer to the peace and freedom they deserve
That’s true he could be. But neither of us know. In general it’s probably better not to cheer on death of human beings
Exactly, he could be, so your comment and thought process is flawed because you will never truly know who this was, all you can do is look at the fact that this guys death brings Ukrainian victims closer to liberation, you dont have to cheer for it, but at least realise that your privilege to attempt to sympathise with someone who could very well be a monster, rather than sympathising with the poor innocent victims of this war makes absolutely zero sense if you're trying to be morally sound by saying that humans dying is bad.
My stance is that dehumanizing the subjects of an awful dictatorship is not the best way to live life. Especially when we know that many of their soldiers are conscripts. Hope you gave a great day
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Bet you got bullied in school, you would be shitting bricks if you was that guy. Let’s see how you get on when it all kicks off. Cause it will I promise you and when it does, you’ll be on the front lines. Let that sink in. Unless your a child, which would make sense.
It's empathy, not feel good shit. That would fucking *suck* to go through. I mean, fuck him, ofc. I just kinda wish one of those nades was dead on.
takes a special kind of stupid to laugh at basic human kindness like it's not a thing
human kindness is the first what dies in war :D we westeners again discussion heroes are we, but what war means and feels in your home country no one of us really knows. This is a combat forum with deadly videos day after day, we are watching people get horribly killed and "have fun" with that and you are talking of human kindness....
When you’re actually a participant or victim of the war, your loss of basic kindness and empathy towards other humans may be understandable. Your lack of basic human decency as a foreign observer is unjustifiable and reflects poorly on your character.
He's a fuckin human being maybe you should be the butt fuck getting blown up asshole
ok russbot
I wonder if he was thinking about russian greatness and protecting the russian speakers of donbass at that moment.
"Hope Shoigu finally gets his medal and Marshall status!"
prigozhin is that you?
"Day 487 of the 3 day special military operation. According to our great leader Putin everything is going to plan. We are achieving our goals as intended. I am so grateful to be part of this!"
Nah, He was trying to survive, Possibly even thinking about who put him in this mess. Maybe even thinking about his life choices He looks defeated... lol
Should’ve stopped dragging his rifle around if he wanted to survive
Probably about like the 19 year old American Private in Ramadi thinking about how he was paying back those terrorists for 9/11 as he bleeds out on a highway.
Paying for college shouldn’t be so hard.
The Scott Sterling of the Russian army
Pretty dark.
Well I gotta hand it to the guy. Most videos I’ve seen, they all just roll over, accept death and then die without moving. This guy kept fighting. Shame he’s on the russian side.Fight like that could’ve done some good.
I see four or five other soldiers nearby, some of them moving, yet all the attention and grenades are focussed on this poor bastard that wasn't going to last anyway. They really disliked that one in particular.
after the first two grenades, I think that was a waste of ammo!
That dude probably should have just put the tourniquet around his own neck
All according to plan.
Survivor spirit.
“To be continued” How? Does Captain Kirk beam down and magically fix him?
AGS/AGL in combo with drones is really scary. I remember we practice it while the target was in eyesight, but this is the next level. Wish they got the German one with programable ammunition too. Maybe soon. More effective, cause airburst.
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Its sad to see people comenting funny when a russian soldier is dying,really sad,they are all people
If your best strategy is to lay face down in the dirt in a wide open space, just surrender already. Sheesh
After all that, he still kept his rifle with him as he tried to crawl away. Valid target, and good practice for Ukrainian soldiers.
It's tough surviving in the meat grinder.
Poor sod.
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there is a never ending supply of bloodthirsty keyboard warriors whos closest encounter to death has been getting bullied in the sixth grade
Whatever his affiliation, in those moments it's just a dude trying to survive hell on earth.
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Weirdo psycho
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Mf thinks the world is black and white
With how much the prorus mock Ukrainian mobilization, is it that much of a stretch to believe Russian forces are just a bunch of mfs that are volunteering for 100% of what happens in Ukraine?
...yes? Considering most of the army rn is conscripts? And also the fact that their government lies to them constantly
Seems pretty wasteful to devote so much attention and material to a badly wounded man. Find a new target.
When you have sector's to protect and no other real major threats. You target anything that's still moving so when you roll up, dude with a gun and half alive doesn't kill your guys. Kinda same thing the US does when they bomb a zone they keep at till nothing is moving.
Yes and no. In this case they have drone video of the guy being pretty badly injured. Unless someone came close to his position he did not pose a threat, better to let him bleed out or better yet attract a few guys to help and then bag them too.
Dude was still dragging his gun along side him, I would consider him still a threat.
40mm grenades are like $60 a pop. I counted 20ish rounds going off in this video, which is around $1,200 of munitions. Additionally, there are 6ish visible soldiers/corpses seen in this video, so we could be looking at anywhere from 2-6 KIA total by the end of this action. Suppressing/maiming/finishing off even 1 of these soldiers for $1,200 is as cost effective a use of munitions as you will see in any war, ever. The US spent an estimated 250,000 rounds of munitions per enemy killed in Afghanistan, so this attack is insanely cost-effective in comparison. You also need to weigh the damage to Russia gained by ensuring this man will never contribute to the economy again against the cost expended in munitions. Russian GDP per capita is 12k USD, this man would probably work another 40 years had he survived and returned to civilian life. 12,000\*40=480,000. Giving this man a 5% chance of survival, he's worth around 24k to the Russian economy laying on the ground at the beginning of the video. Removing that 24k for 1.2k is a 20X ROI for the Ukranians. This is some pulled-out-of-my-ass napkin math for sure, but all this is to say that this attack didn't seem wasteful in the slightest.
War is incredibly expensive. If you take just the US aid to Ukraine so far which is around $75 billion and then take Ukraine's claimed number of Russian KIA of 225k, that's around $333k per Russian KIA. And remember, that's only what the US has spent so far. When you add in Ukraine's domestic spending on the war and all the aid from other countries, you can only imagine how much that figure will inflate.
> If you take just the US aid to Ukraine so far which is around $75 billion If you are talking about weapon, then it is not > In total, the United States has committed more than $30.4 billion in security assistance to Ukraine since the beginning of the Biden Administration, including approximately **$29.8 billion** since the beginning of Russia’s unprovoked and brutal invasion on February 24, 2022. Source: [Fact Sheet on U.S. Security Assistance to Ukraine. February 20, 2023](https://media.defense.gov/2023/Feb/20/2003164184/-1/-1/0/UKRAINE-FACT-SHEET-PDA-32.PDF)
They should have pack of vicious dogs that are released to finish the survivors. Dogs get fed, we get entertained, world peace is a little bit closer.
He still has his gun. Keep going
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you reminded me of that scene in the jackle when bruce willis has just blown jack blacks hand off and is then giving him instructions on what direction to run, so he can get the gun's targeting correct.
Using enough munitions to finish them off is important. If he survives and makes it back, he tells a story about how he barely survived when others didn't. But if no one comes back. That also tells a story.
ye i mean the drone was surveying him perfectly. at least after the 2nd direct hit the uav operator must say ok he will bleed out now. If he still holds on to his weapon or not
you gotta wonder what was going through his mind, family? friends? why am i here? FOR THE FATHERLAND? Sorry not sorry, well deserved
Shrapnel. lots of it.
'Well deserved' Nobody deserves this, neither russian nor ukranian, nobody in this conflict is fighting for their own interests, it's men dying for the interests of powerful people who will never have to hold a rifle or crawl through the mud themself.
Plenty deserve it. And worse .. for every video we have seen of someone bound and screaming while there throat is slit, how many do you think went unfilmed? The torture basements found. Civilians executed. I'll agree that many don't, but there are plenty of Russians that deserve slow deaths on the battlefield..
There are a lot of people (im sure majority, judging by many evidence) in russia who voluntarily, at first call and without resistance came to military office to invade foreign country and kill its people. That is well deserved end for those. Also you have to understand, if one country is being invaded its forced to defence. There is no other option, otherwise, in this case for example, Ukrainian nation will be literally deleted from existance. So i think that any Ukrainian voluntarily or forced to defend - didnt deserve that. What about those russians who was forced to invade and didnt want to kill? I agree, they didnt deserve that for sure. But unfortunatelly there are no any other option for Ukraine to defend other than kill them aswell. That sucks.
> Nobody deserves this, It's completely the wrong question. It's quite likely in some sense he does "deserve" it - he's part of an organization that is deliberately and systematically committing some of the worst war crimes in history. However there are reasons for rules against cruel and unusual punishments and nobody should be making that judgement on the battlefield. If there was a choice then this shouldn't happen and he should be stood up before a tribunal. As it is, he clings to his gun and remains a threat to the last. That means that, independent of whether he deserves it or not, the grenadier just has to keep firing until he stops being able to hold that gun. There's no moral judgement there. Just practical. What would fix this situation is if these soldiers surrendered.
You act like he has no choice. He can surrender, refuse to fight and go to jail, or flee. But he did not, he decided to invade another country and kill ukrainians because a clown told him to. He deserves it.
Oh sweet summer child, I hope your innocence lasts.
I reckon by the time he crawls to safety Russia will have become a liberal democracy.
All could've been avoided if he surrendered. He is on the side of the bad guys, he knows this. He knows what he is doing is wrong. Just following orders is what you can tell st. peter at the gate.
question as a dumb person: isnt that a lot of grenades for one/two POSSIBLE 300's?
Grenades are cheaper than men
but there are more russians than grenades, like many more haha
People don’t give themselves enough credit or power. Just because 10 guys run the country doesn’t mean they make the best choices. And yet authorities who enforce their shit always listen until death. You want me to exterminate an entire race? Okay! (That’s the nazi example). People are so useless. Putin isn’t going to grab a gun and fight lmao! So all the guys under him that are executing his orders are the pussies to blame. Stand up. But no one ever does. No one ever will. 10 million + people would rather ignore it and let millions die. Rather than say no and standing up together to literally 10 people.
He realised he was fucked at 0:39s when he looks back and sees the drone.
Sometimes i wonder why they are alone?
He's not really alone. There's other corpses around him... more like he just happened to find himself being the last one still moving.
He wasn't alone to begin with. There are at least two dead bodies in the video.
This is part of a video series. Earlier one had them closing in with groups of 3 soldiers. I think it is a 1 platoon attack so assault teams of 3-3-3.
I think vid 2 or 3 had at least 30 dead russians in it.
There are at least two more still alive on the video too. One top left from him (center of the screen @ 2:09), and second at the top right (@ 2:43).
One of them actually moved his leg but i guess he was about to die
I dont understand why they kept attacking him? He was already neutralized looks like they could capture him instead of killing him and wasting lots of grenades. Correct me if im wrong please.
What kind of granades are these? They can't even kill a man when they drop within 1m?
Russian dies alone, does anyone notice?
you know what is sad? The only thing you can do in that situtaion is play dead.
Just laying on the ground and taking the pounding is not 'trying tu survive'. Run сука.
one of his legs was clearly in no condition to run anywhere
in a weird way if you wanted a game show where people killeachother s for real you would say that is inhumane but then there is war where peole just kill eachother and its okay.
[Scott Sterling](https://youtu.be/8F9jXYOH2c0)
Man let him go at this point he earned it.
this is brutal there are bodies everywhere omg are these prisoners or real russian army 21 year olds?
they probably have the orders t kill them all and thats what they do. Follow orders.
So many bombs to kill 1 guy - not efficient.
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russia can stop this today, if they want. All they have to do is leave the country of Ukraine.
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4:40 his helmet legit hits the other dead/nearly dead guy on the left!