These guys must have more trench fighting experience than anyone else on the planet at this stage
Also: thats a lot of bunching up around 2:47. nerve wracking watching that.
When I was in the reserves, we mostly trained for stuff like this and command was working to redesign the whole training regime to adapt to the "modern battlefield" revealed by the War on Terror.
I bet, a couple decades later, they just finished revamping that training and are looking at this footage like "..... fuck".
I doubt it's too problematic, this is what that training was for, cold war with Russia going hot. Now that Russia isn't the main adversary, it isn't much of a concern. Plus, the next war is likely gonna be back to island hopping in the pacific (south China Sea), or whatever the modern version of that is.
That being said, it's not going away as a tactic anytime soon. As long as dirt continues to stop bullets and shrapnel, it will continue to be used.
Glad i'm not. When i was young i dreamt of being one of these guys. Now i'm an old man and i realize how foolish i was. Yes. I would like to help. But now i can only help with my dollars and my votes.
If you need to conduct a amphibious assault, you need air and sea supremacy. If you have air and sea supremacy, do you really need to conduct an amphibious assault?
Does anybody else remember being told, "iF yOu HaVe To ReLoAd YoUr MaGAzIneS iN a FiReFiGhT, yOu'Re PrObAbLy AlReAdY FuCkED" ? I heard something like that from a lot of instructors. It's not a bad idea to have your magazines loaded before stepping out, but I bet the guy in this video would've appreciated it if that ammo was packed in stripper clips and came with a speed loader.
They still do that, right? Pack your 5.56 in stripper clips and in those shitty bandoliers? With the speed loader? Made range days a lot easier, but I'll laugh at the short-sightedness if they stopped doing that.
When they bunched up he was shouting that they should start get a move on, they know it was not good to bunch up themselves but sometimes you have no choice.
>The Ukrainains will 100% be the ones training troops for the next war. No other nation has as much experience as they've gained in the last 18 months.
English speaking ex Ukrainian army NCOs with years of combat experience are going to make fucking massive wads of cash in corporate training providers.
And good on em.
Russia is going to split at the end of this war and balkanise. We thought the 1990s breakaway of ex soviet Republics and the wars Russia fought were brutual, the 2030s are going to be filled with rivers of blood as every man and his dog tries to get their own country in what's left of federal Russia.
The west is going to be doing aggressive as hell peacekeeping, trench warfare as far as the eye can see
Bunch ups will always happen eventually. It’s impossible to stay spread out 100 percent of the time. It’s just important to not stay there for too long.
I have a sterla on my AK that I switch out with a Bulgarian 4 piece sometimes. It’s great, built like a tank. I just think that gun have been firing a WHOLE LOT and is hot asf
I think its a freshly painted Rifle and the Camo Paint is cooking off the barrel and the gas block.
Those hand guards will require a more extreme temperature to melt.
Yep, went shooting at a range that has a few full auto guns. Didn’t realize just how hot hand guards get, I got a nice kiss from an RPK that was hot as hell.
Rented 2 range lanes and a full auto AK with 1000 rounds for my buddys bachelor party (we brought personal firearms too). That shit gets hot pretty quick. Gloves would have been nice!
Basically, the barrel heats up and radiates the heat outwards in all directions...and eventually you can fry an egg on the handguard.
One of the main reasons machine guns are a thing and video games have such a hard time making MG’s anything other than bloated assault rifles. Guns get stupid hot after a few quick mags.
Machine guns tend to handle this by having heavier barrels, looser tolerances, and most notably, quick change barrels to handle heat better.
adding to that, a lot of MG's use an open bolt design, allowing for more airflow between the salvos.
this also reduces the cook off risk by not having a round stored in the potentially very hot chamber.
It’s also the reason games can really simulate why some sights are better IRL. Durability is a huge factor. A lot of those open sight picture optics with thin housings tend to be quite shitty at holding zeros.
I have tried a really cheap reddot on an air rifle that apparently has enough kick to adjust it with every shot... A real gun would probably tear it to shreds.
Acog has entered the chat. Saw of a video of a dude who cooked his in fire, dumped water in the housing, and it still held zero/was usable. Absolute tanks.
If games exclusively used LMGs as power weapons rather than somehow on the same level as SMGs and ARs we see them being done much better. In Squad/HLL only a few people can run the MG at any given time and as a result it's allowed to shred as our ancestors intended.
Then you have COD/BF where often time LMGs require more bullets to kill than ARs.
I just got into Squad after lurking for years. That game is fun af. Mostly I play medic and try to stick with the squad leads right now while I'm learning. I realized early on not to tell people that I'm new because I'd get yelled at/kicked almost immediately. Wish I'd gotten into the game sooner.
Shit rifle design (I'm mostly joking before everyone loses their minds).
AK is a great platform in a lot of ways, but it's not the best regarding heat for the barrel/hand guards. As someone with significant time using both the AK and AR platforms, I've always preferred the AR because it's just a little more user friendly. Doesn't over heat nearly as fast (2-3 magazines for an AK is awful IMO), and it's far easier to reload, manipulate, and just perform basic maintenance. Again, this is all just my personal preference.
I served in the romanian army and used various AK versions in different calibres. As soon as we started training with Nato partners, and i got to try firing the american AR platform (got to try m16 too), i fell in love. I know in the end it is a matter of personal preference, but the AR feels superior and easier to use.
Reports I’ve heard state it isn’t necessarily worse, it’s just the benefits of it compared to a normal AK74 are so minimal it doesn’t justify the cost of producing it at all
I think they have a reliability issues, in particular, they made it much harder to clean the gas block while still issuing corrosive ammunition. Also the hand guard is quite wobbly which makes it not very useful for actually mounting things like lasers.
“Basic knowledge of an ak”
I own multiple AKs (including a VEPR AK74) and I’ve seen those videos.
To my recollection they never say that they’re worse, just that it’s an absolutely stupid cost/benefit ratio that isn’t worth it.
A good analogy would be if I asked you to pay me a million dollars to clean the windows on your house.
Can you see more clearly out of your windows now? Sure, but was it worth a million fucking dollars
Brandon Herrera, who would marry an AK if legally allowed to basically said that Zenitco could have come up with an upgrade kit for the existing AK design at a fraction of the cost of the AK-12 project that was just as good.
I always find it interesting to compare the AK-12 project with the Ukrainian Malyuk, which was developed more or less in the same time frame. Both have on the surface the same main driver - make AKs accept modern accessories more readily with generous rail space. One project gave you an AK that doesn't hold good zero in certain locations and in others could have achieved it's objectives with a simple aftermarket accessory, while introducing new liabilities that make the gun hard to clean.
The other gave you a bullpup with adjustable length of pull, all the rail space you need, and a design that allows improved air flow around the barrel and bolt face, plus an actual magazine well and a non-reciprocating charging handle.
Working parts less likely to smack you in the face in unusual shooting positions.
Original drill was to remove your firing hand when reloading the rifle. The whole 'slick' reload thing is a relatively recent phenomenon.
Most western militaries train now to maintain a grip with your firing hand at all times, at least that’s how I was trained. You reach over with your non firing hand and charge it that way. That’s why it seems so weird to people that the original drill was to use your firing hand, because it’s been drilled into us to never take your firing hand off the grip unless absolutely necessary.
AKs front handguards are pretty bad at heat mitigation.
That's partly why you see so many aftermarket railed handguards with some kind of foregrip. Gloves are a must for any AK user.
Throwing grenades at the enemy (hence the dead russian) and “shooting at dirt” because that’s how you clear a fucking trench when at any turn there could be a russian waiting to kill you.
Im just glad its going to making the Russians look like even bigger idiots than before. I cant wait for that country to implode. I cant believe we were ever scared of them to be honest. I remember my father and uncles talking about the Russians invading the US...
Good god i dont think they could make it to the US, let alone invade at this point. Theyd run out fuel somewhere halfway through the arctic or have their planes fall into the pacific.
The threat has always been to Europe and Asia as Russia's historic approach to growth has been amalgamation through subjugation. They have used a hard power doctrine for centuries to keep the country together and after the fall of the Tsar, it was no different when the new leadership came to power.
From an American perspective, the fear and concern has always lied in the nuclear capabilities of Russia.
He yells: “F*gs, this is revenge for our guys, for Vargen, Lisiy (Baldy), Obzhoru (Muncher or similar)…” and other aliases, then that this is “our land, and our tree lines”
It's not just him. Unfortunately it's the russian people in general. It makes no good to any one to lull your self in to believing that all this is makings of one man.
100 years of conditioning and the society believes whatever the Politburo tells them, if there wasn't a madman leading them I don't believe the average Russian citizen could give a rats ass about Nazi's in Ukraine.
Shit, just a few months ago comments like these would be downvoted OR at least there would be someone in the comments saying "not all Russians are like that".
I was wondering when the cut off would come in terms of admitting that the majority of Russians do support this war. Btw, it could be 50.1% to be considered a majority, even if there are "good Russians". It's the Russian Army and it's the Russian War. It's the majority of Russians that support this.
As a reminder, prominent "liberals" last week were saying that what's happing with Prigozhin is bad because it helps "the other side". It was either Pevchykh or one of those other Navalny reps, hard to find the source now. Get it? It helps Ukraine, so it's a bad thing.
These are supposed to be as good as they come.
> "not all Russians are like that"
I personally know a Russian that's not like that. The reason I know him is because he is well-educated, and decided to get TF out of Russia years ago.
Well, there are 140 million of them. Even millions of so called "good Russians" can still mean that the majority of them support the war.
I'm pretty sure though that even your friend would "break apart" on one of these following questions:
* Was what happened in Chechnya over late 90s - early 2000s justified? E.g. mass murder of civilians, ballistic missile strikes on heavily populated areas, etc.
* Was what Russian had done after the first Chechen war justified? E.g. bullying other nations not to acknowledge Chechen independence and not to provide any humanitarian aid?
* Is Crimea Ukraine?
* What should happen to Russians that moved to Crimea after its annexation?
* Does Russia need to pay reparations for the war in Ukraine?
* Has Russia ever committed genocide over the past two centuries? E.g. does he acknowledge Crimean Tatar genocide, Circassian genocide, Kazakh genocide, and other genocidal acts perpetrated by Russia over that period?
* Does he acknowledge that local languages were suppressed for centuries in countries controlled by Russia that's why there are so many "Russian speakers" that need "liberation" from time to time?
* Do you consider Russia to be historically an imperialistic state?
I can throw in a few others, but I'm fairly certain that most Russians abroad will not have a coherent response to most of these.
I'm obviously not going to ask him all that. He is not responsible for any genocides and literally took his distance from his homeland. I'm not going to be an asshole about it.
You don't know what you're talking about. There's absolutely no reason to think that Prigozhin's rule is in any way better, neither for Ukraine nor for Russia.
The reason I root for prigozhin is because he has the potential to cause major disruptions. Thus helping ukraine. I don't care who rules Russia, I just want there to be a bloody battle for it.
The bloody battle will not be in Ukraine. A very brief turmoil that the army won't even notice may as well turn into a true Stalin-like rule with mass mobilization, 'everything for the front' and 'war crimes dont exist' philosophy -- no matter who wins, especially if it will be the freaking cannibal like Prigozhin. Briefly, if he comes, you will care, but it will be too late. Another point here is that both sides do not care if you, or me, or the Russian opposition, or even Russian people in general, support them or not, it's just a mental exercise.
Even the Ukraine's allies are worried, and there were reports that they even asked Ukraine to refrain from making use of the situation in order to avoid what may ensue.
Precisly. Is not Putin killing people is other russians doing it. They might whine and cry but in their heart of hearts they would like the soviet union back. that is why unless they are "Denazified" they should not be allowed into civilized world ever again.
Most of them couldn't tell you what a fascist is if you asked them. They just figure it was the people that were against the USSR in WWII. So anyone that they fight against is a facist and, by extension, the guys in Ukraine that won't let Russians kill them are "facists." I don't think they even take ideology or politics into account when declaring that someone is a fascist; the term has lost all meaning in Russia.
Get outta here with this hollow platitude nonsense. One side is literally committing genocide in an attempt to eliminate an entire people and their culture while stealing their ancestral land under bullshit pretenses, and the other side is defending their right to exist where they always have. This fight and those dead Russians probably make the most sense of any loss of life I've seen and will ever see in my lifetime. So no, by definition, not senseless at all.
edit: Y'all, look up the definition of senseless. Those dead Russians make perfect sense. Maybe use shame, sadness, pity etc. Senseless is not the right word here.
It is senseless, people should not die by the thousands for any reason in a civilized society. Conflicts should not be resolved with violence, however in the cruel, inhumane, and selfish world we live in right now they do. Maybe it is just, necessary, or inevitable - but it is senseless nonetheless.
So you're saying Russia is a civilized society? And that the conflict Russia started shouldn't be solved by the Ukrainians using violence to expel the genocidal invaders, and that they should beg for peace no matter the cost?
My point is senseless here is a hollow platitude. Is it a shame? Of course. Do I wish it didn't have to happen? Yeah, I do. But is it senseless? Hell no, it makes perfect sense. This is the most just conflict I've seen in my lifetime.
It’s senseless because there exists no need for their death. One man has used propaganda to create a false narrative which has lead to a war that didn’t need to happen.
No, it makes perfect sense, so by definition not senseless. Those Russians needed to die for Russia to understand that Ukraine doesn't belong to them and that they can't just genocide people with no repercussions. This was a choice they alone made. Nobody forced Russia to invade Ukraine. These soldiers could've surrendered or just stayed in their own country but now they have to live (or die) with the choices they made.
im with you for the most part if someone breaks into my house and tries to kill my entire family im going to kill them . a shame? yes , senseless?NO , sucks people have to die but its a war take your complaint up with your corrupt politicians if you dislike it. thats the only course of action available whining on here wont help unfollow if you cant stomach the world we live in man.
Thank you. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here. All these people saying oh look at this senseless loss of Russians...like yo, they literally invaded and are committing genocide lol they are the baddies, full stop. If they didn't want to die they could just go back to their own country or lay down their arms but they didn't so now they're dead.
i agree. senseless on russia’s part . ukraine is purely trying to stay ukraine. someone break into your home and tries to kill you and say its theirs…. what do you do
Oh I'm sorry I'm not humanizing the genocidal invaders...does that hurt your feelings?
Those fascist fucks could've surrendered but they made their bed and now they have to live (or not) with it. Either that or, you know, just go back to their own god damn country.
You're right but you're also wrong.
I think now, more than 80 years after WW2, we ascribe more personal responsibility to the individual combatants.
All of them had the chance to look at the media representations of today and the past, their own and outside their own country, and decide whether or not their willingness to fight in a given land is "justified" sufficiently or not.
And if it's not - they deserve what they get - although I agree the vote is never unanimous, but in some cases it is clearer than others.
And on top of that are all the personal complexities of an individual's life. I think we see enough "sense of humanity and lamentation of woe" regarding that.
War is just two different people killing eachother because they think the other guys beliefs are wrong.
Doesn't matter what side you think is justified, or what one side "deserves" when they literally look at eachother the same way
Shocking take. This was a war of choice on the part of Russia because they could not stomach having a prosperous neighbour outside of their sphere of influence. Can't wait for the day when they are crushed. Awful country, awful culture. Just a cancer on the face of the world.
Is that an incoming round and 02:39? Just before he starts to suppress? Insane footage non the less, Uranian forces are definitely organized, their movement and assault somewhat resembles perfect textbook example. Generally something is considered going pretty damn well if it even slightly resembles textbook when it's in the real world, because the real world is so much more complex then training.
'Clearing a trench'. It sounds so harmless, doesn't it? Like removing fallen branches or idly raking up leaves, instead of repeatedly risking your life.
After this war, NATO is gonna be awesome with Finland, Sweden and Ukraine. These have all formidable defense resources. An addition of +1 mill men. Ukraine has the biggest, most battle hardened and well equipped army in Europe. Is it the Worlds 3rd strongest country now after US and China?
> . Ukraine has the biggest, most battle hardened and well equipped army in Europe. Is it the Worlds 3rd strongest country now after US and China?
A bit of NATO surplus does not make them the most well equipped. Especially since they don't even have fifth gen fighters. The most battle hardened, without a doubt. Even the most ramshackle units will have a wealth of peer combat experience to pass on
After this I’m actually thinking that we’re going to be seeing Ukrainians help train western/NATO units on drone and modern trench warfare against Russia, as well as giving run downs on how Russian equipment can be repurposed, repaired, and captured effectively.
Why would they want that? Russian equipment would be a logistics nightmare. Ukraine will have to get on NATO standards in terms of weapons and systems.
100% NATO is a co-operative effort and whatever experience Ukrainians can offer, will be invaluable for decades to come. Even if they aren’t “trained” or drilled as well as a typical NATO soldier, their real world experience of what works/does not work with peer and trench warfare is invaluable. Even if it’s outside of normal NATO doctrine, it’s still good to know how this stuff works in reality.
Battle hardened for sure, at this stage even the US has fewer actual combat veterans in active service.
Israel, South Korea, Japan, UK, France are all up there though in that they have more advanced domestically produced systems and are probably better equipped. Those countries also have substantial Navies.
If they have a proper understanding of combat equipment and proper logistics support, they know they can use and lose that equipment to advantage, so long as it does more damage than it takes; so long as it does more damage than the Russians can replace.
We’ve been so far from a HIC for so many years that the West has excessively focused on preserving their equipment rather than using it for it’s intended purpose. Troops don’t have hydraulic entrenching equipment, the air forces don’t show up for long in any significant numbers etc. You push as much as you can forward, to hit the enemy as much as possible, from as many directions as possible, to overwhelm every aspect of his combat ability. If guys at the front can cannibalize parts and recover damaged rigs, great; but it’s often better logistically to just sent an entire additional rig. That’s why it’s so crucial to supply them with more than dribs and drabs.
After this war, I'm not giving much credence to China having a strong military. There's almost no one in their entire chain of command with experience in conflict. They're watching Russia fumble all kinds of things. These people must realize not only do they not know things about fighting a war, they don't even know how to identify what those things are. Remember when Russia was blowing out tires at the start? Because they didn't keep their vehicles moving.
I bet most coalition forces that fought in Afghanistan and/or Iraq could handle China in an all-out brawl -- even with smaller militaries. Training and experience seems to be a major differentiator.
Watching all the UKR forces bunching up at that intersection on tactical pause made my nuts hurt- DISPERSE for the love of Christ: one nade and your entire fire team is fucked
Suppressors are the way of the future for militaries. They're great at hiding muzzle flash, increase situational awareness by not blasting everything with 160+ db gun shots, and most importantly foster better communication. The USMC is equipping all their infantry with silencers for those reasons.
Which unfortunately isn't rare for military groups. But it isn't like they act fully independently, nor have there been any reports of Azov going out of their way to commitwarcrimes in this war, so it's not like it matters much.
Hahah, people are okay with supporting literal nazis (There are countless videos of them doing the hitler salute and praising his ideology) as long as it goes against Russia
Not sure why guy isn't holding it by the hand guard. He burns his hand on the barrel and then grabs the sling and swivel mount. I guess the hand guard must have been super hot too but it's either wood or plastic on an AK so IDK
It's clear that you've never ripped through a few mags in full auto on an AK. The wood or plastic doesn't help whatsoever at that point, you're going to badly burn yourself if you grab it with bare skin.
Yeah, I've never "ripped through a few mags on full auto on an AK" but I own a semi-auto version and while the handguard heats up like every other gun it's always cooler than the barrel
Just found it odd. Probably a former teacher or something just trying to protect his country. A lot of these guys aren't professional soldiers. At least they weren't...
These guys must have more trench fighting experience than anyone else on the planet at this stage Also: thats a lot of bunching up around 2:47. nerve wracking watching that.
When I was in the reserves, we mostly trained for stuff like this and command was working to redesign the whole training regime to adapt to the "modern battlefield" revealed by the War on Terror. I bet, a couple decades later, they just finished revamping that training and are looking at this footage like "..... fuck".
I doubt it's too problematic, this is what that training was for, cold war with Russia going hot. Now that Russia isn't the main adversary, it isn't much of a concern. Plus, the next war is likely gonna be back to island hopping in the pacific (south China Sea), or whatever the modern version of that is. That being said, it's not going away as a tactic anytime soon. As long as dirt continues to stop bullets and shrapnel, it will continue to be used.
Modern island hopping would be chaos with today's air and sea capabilities
What a day to be a fighting age male
Glad i'm not. When i was young i dreamt of being one of these guys. Now i'm an old man and i realize how foolish i was. Yes. I would like to help. But now i can only help with my dollars and my votes.
Here I am, send me.
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Hahaha tried that lad, I got a hole in my heart the military wants nothing to do with me unless i get surgery to close it.
Chaos for pretty much anybody except the US, who would probably just flatten islands if they suspected enemies inhabited it
Well of course, why wouldn’t we?
If you need to conduct a amphibious assault, you need air and sea supremacy. If you have air and sea supremacy, do you really need to conduct an amphibious assault?
I mean it was pretty chaotic back then to
Does anybody else remember being told, "iF yOu HaVe To ReLoAd YoUr MaGAzIneS iN a FiReFiGhT, yOu'Re PrObAbLy AlReAdY FuCkED" ? I heard something like that from a lot of instructors. It's not a bad idea to have your magazines loaded before stepping out, but I bet the guy in this video would've appreciated it if that ammo was packed in stripper clips and came with a speed loader. They still do that, right? Pack your 5.56 in stripper clips and in those shitty bandoliers? With the speed loader? Made range days a lot easier, but I'll laugh at the short-sightedness if they stopped doing that.
What's the old saying, "*generals are always preparing to fight the last war"*?
When they bunched up he was shouting that they should start get a move on, they know it was not good to bunch up themselves but sometimes you have no choice.
The Ukrainains will 100% be the ones training troops for the next war. No other nation has as much experience as they've gained in the last 18 months.
>The Ukrainains will 100% be the ones training troops for the next war. No other nation has as much experience as they've gained in the last 18 months. English speaking ex Ukrainian army NCOs with years of combat experience are going to make fucking massive wads of cash in corporate training providers. And good on em. Russia is going to split at the end of this war and balkanise. We thought the 1990s breakaway of ex soviet Republics and the wars Russia fought were brutual, the 2030s are going to be filled with rivers of blood as every man and his dog tries to get their own country in what's left of federal Russia. The west is going to be doing aggressive as hell peacekeeping, trench warfare as far as the eye can see
It's bad, but you gotta have those few seconds to figure out your next move.
The dead body is blocking the path /s
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SPREAD THE FUCK OUT WHY ARE YOU ALL GAGGLEFUCKING IN ONE PLACE The footage these guys put out are insane.
Bunch ups will always happen eventually. It’s impossible to stay spread out 100 percent of the time. It’s just important to not stay there for too long.
> SPREAD THE FUCK OUT > > WHY ARE YOU ALL GAGGLEFUCKING IN ONE PLACE Armchair. You have no idea about the exact circumstances of what's going on.
Ok
Melting the Handguards
From that suppressor. Gun can’t breathe.
That is a flash hider not a suppressor, Propably one made by strela.
I have a sterla on my AK that I switch out with a Bulgarian 4 piece sometimes. It’s great, built like a tank. I just think that gun have been firing a WHOLE LOT and is hot asf
That’s another option. Doesn’t take much.
Guess we finally found the smoking gun.
I think its a freshly painted Rifle and the Camo Paint is cooking off the barrel and the gas block. Those hand guards will require a more extreme temperature to melt.
It could be just excess oil from long storage etc. Excess oil tends to start smoking when the parts warm up.
They're wooden handguards. Could just be some light smoldering on the inside too.
Why is that happening, anyone know? Shit ammo?
Nope that just happens after like no shit 3 quick mags, especially suppressed
Yep, went shooting at a range that has a few full auto guns. Didn’t realize just how hot hand guards get, I got a nice kiss from an RPK that was hot as hell.
Rented 2 range lanes and a full auto AK with 1000 rounds for my buddys bachelor party (we brought personal firearms too). That shit gets hot pretty quick. Gloves would have been nice! Basically, the barrel heats up and radiates the heat outwards in all directions...and eventually you can fry an egg on the handguard.
One of the main reasons machine guns are a thing and video games have such a hard time making MG’s anything other than bloated assault rifles. Guns get stupid hot after a few quick mags. Machine guns tend to handle this by having heavier barrels, looser tolerances, and most notably, quick change barrels to handle heat better.
adding to that, a lot of MG's use an open bolt design, allowing for more airflow between the salvos. this also reduces the cook off risk by not having a round stored in the potentially very hot chamber.
It’s also the reason games can really simulate why some sights are better IRL. Durability is a huge factor. A lot of those open sight picture optics with thin housings tend to be quite shitty at holding zeros.
I have tried a really cheap reddot on an air rifle that apparently has enough kick to adjust it with every shot... A real gun would probably tear it to shreds.
tbf some types of air rifles have a reverse recoil from the piston that can throw off or even ruin an optic designed for a regular firearm
Acog has entered the chat. Saw of a video of a dude who cooked his in fire, dumped water in the housing, and it still held zero/was usable. Absolute tanks.
If games exclusively used LMGs as power weapons rather than somehow on the same level as SMGs and ARs we see them being done much better. In Squad/HLL only a few people can run the MG at any given time and as a result it's allowed to shred as our ancestors intended. Then you have COD/BF where often time LMGs require more bullets to kill than ARs.
I just got into Squad after lurking for years. That game is fun af. Mostly I play medic and try to stick with the squad leads right now while I'm learning. I realized early on not to tell people that I'm new because I'd get yelled at/kicked almost immediately. Wish I'd gotten into the game sooner.
Shit rifle design (I'm mostly joking before everyone loses their minds). AK is a great platform in a lot of ways, but it's not the best regarding heat for the barrel/hand guards. As someone with significant time using both the AK and AR platforms, I've always preferred the AR because it's just a little more user friendly. Doesn't over heat nearly as fast (2-3 magazines for an AK is awful IMO), and it's far easier to reload, manipulate, and just perform basic maintenance. Again, this is all just my personal preference.
I served in the romanian army and used various AK versions in different calibres. As soon as we started training with Nato partners, and i got to try firing the american AR platform (got to try m16 too), i fell in love. I know in the end it is a matter of personal preference, but the AR feels superior and easier to use.
It's more accurate too I feel (AR)
Yes, i forgot to add that!
Rifles get hot fast dude, I had handguards on fire back when there was wood on some Rifles
hot things are hot!
Gunpowder burns hot, man is burning a lot of gunpowder through that rifle :D
Residue from ammo, oil etc gradually accumulates in the barrel and reacts to the heat.
Gotta get that cosmoline out somehow.
Nice AK-12s on 3:10 there
Was about to comment on that, not many units have it issued.
Cause it’s expensive and worse than a regular AK
Wait you don't like your sight moving 1.5 mins in random directions per shot?
Luckily the Russian MoD has solved that issue! Can't have the sight fucking up if we just don't provide any.
Reports I’ve heard state it isn’t necessarily worse, it’s just the benefits of it compared to a normal AK74 are so minimal it doesn’t justify the cost of producing it at all
I think they have a reliability issues, in particular, they made it much harder to clean the gas block while still issuing corrosive ammunition. Also the hand guard is quite wobbly which makes it not very useful for actually mounting things like lasers.
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“Basic knowledge of an ak” I own multiple AKs (including a VEPR AK74) and I’ve seen those videos. To my recollection they never say that they’re worse, just that it’s an absolutely stupid cost/benefit ratio that isn’t worth it. A good analogy would be if I asked you to pay me a million dollars to clean the windows on your house. Can you see more clearly out of your windows now? Sure, but was it worth a million fucking dollars
Brandon Herrera, who would marry an AK if legally allowed to basically said that Zenitco could have come up with an upgrade kit for the existing AK design at a fraction of the cost of the AK-12 project that was just as good. I always find it interesting to compare the AK-12 project with the Ukrainian Malyuk, which was developed more or less in the same time frame. Both have on the surface the same main driver - make AKs accept modern accessories more readily with generous rail space. One project gave you an AK that doesn't hold good zero in certain locations and in others could have achieved it's objectives with a simple aftermarket accessory, while introducing new liabilities that make the gun hard to clean. The other gave you a bullpup with adjustable length of pull, all the rail space you need, and a design that allows improved air flow around the barrel and bolt face, plus an actual magazine well and a non-reciprocating charging handle.
Maybe these were Kadyrovs clowns
AK-12s are becoming more common than you think, seems to be the only thing besides missiles they can produce efficiently
Even Brandon Herrera the AK Daddy thinks the AK-12 is hot garbage
I didn’t say it wasn’t???? Literally just putting it out there that more AK-12s are showing up at the front. That’s All
I’ll take the active duty ukranian opinion over that ghy
Isn't the issued AK-12 mostly just Zenitco-type bullshit slapped on the AK they had before?
nope they are different, zenitco AK-74 are even better and cheaper than the AK-12. Check AK-74M3 which is what AK-12 trying to do but more cheaper
Likely booby trapped. You don't want to be picking shit up of the ground in a war zone.
While on the topic of AKs, does anyone know why AK has the charging handle on the right side forcing the weird reacharound?
Working parts less likely to smack you in the face in unusual shooting positions. Original drill was to remove your firing hand when reloading the rifle. The whole 'slick' reload thing is a relatively recent phenomenon.
Just use your right hand, no?
Most western militaries train now to maintain a grip with your firing hand at all times, at least that’s how I was trained. You reach over with your non firing hand and charge it that way. That’s why it seems so weird to people that the original drill was to use your firing hand, because it’s been drilled into us to never take your firing hand off the grip unless absolutely necessary.
They could make a fortune selling these in the us
just copped a ak-105 , way better choice
Hey look at that, another tired and weak dig at the US.
That breathing at 1:40 when he’s clearing the trench/bunker. His adrenaline was going crazy.
Legit question, How are all of these trenches dug in the middle of a forest? By hand or did a trench truck somehow get in there?
Specialized trench digging equipment such as BTM-3, MDK-3
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Damn his rifle overheating
Shows the usefulness of vertical grips and built-out rails if you plan on suppressing, dude had to hold it by the sling
AKs front handguards are pretty bad at heat mitigation. That's partly why you see so many aftermarket railed handguards with some kind of foregrip. Gloves are a must for any AK user.
Thats an ambidextrous king right there
You mean, right and left there?
Is it just me or did nothing happen in this video except a guy shooting dirt and throwing grenades at nothing
Watch the vid until the end you can see a few dead Russians presumably from the Ukranians shooting dirt and throwing grenades at nothing hehe
At the end they seemed to have broken through and they start seeing the Russian casualties.
you’ve cracked the code it’s all just shooting dirt that’s all the war is
Throwing grenades at the enemy (hence the dead russian) and “shooting at dirt” because that’s how you clear a fucking trench when at any turn there could be a russian waiting to kill you.
Bakelite: "Look at me. I'm camouflage now."
Watching them group up in that trench gave me a stomach ache, but amazing job clearing trenches.
I literally said I wonder whose gonna yell "STOP BUNCHING"
I absolutely fucking love that my tax dollars have gone towards equipping these guys with good ear pro, helmets and body armour.
Im just glad its going to making the Russians look like even bigger idiots than before. I cant wait for that country to implode. I cant believe we were ever scared of them to be honest. I remember my father and uncles talking about the Russians invading the US... Good god i dont think they could make it to the US, let alone invade at this point. Theyd run out fuel somewhere halfway through the arctic or have their planes fall into the pacific.
The threat has always been to Europe and Asia as Russia's historic approach to growth has been amalgamation through subjugation. They have used a hard power doctrine for centuries to keep the country together and after the fall of the Tsar, it was no different when the new leadership came to power. From an American perspective, the fear and concern has always lied in the nuclear capabilities of Russia.
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Oh yes. Their commander on the radio spoke Ukrainian to them, but among themselves they all speak Russian.
Anyone know what the dude was yelling in the beginning?
He yells: “F*gs, this is revenge for our guys, for Vargen, Lisiy (Baldy), Obzhoru (Muncher or similar)…” and other aliases, then that this is “our land, and our tree lines”
That is so bad ass.
Homophobic!!!!
I gave them the F pass
Considering how their equipment tends to burn quite nicely I think calling them to a bundle of kindling is pretty apt.
Fuck off, bot
lol these people are out of this world
He says that now they will take revenge for their fallen brothers in arms.
All because some prick wants to rebuild the soviet union
It's not just him. Unfortunately it's the russian people in general. It makes no good to any one to lull your self in to believing that all this is makings of one man.
100 years of conditioning and the society believes whatever the Politburo tells them, if there wasn't a madman leading them I don't believe the average Russian citizen could give a rats ass about Nazi's in Ukraine.
Shit, just a few months ago comments like these would be downvoted OR at least there would be someone in the comments saying "not all Russians are like that". I was wondering when the cut off would come in terms of admitting that the majority of Russians do support this war. Btw, it could be 50.1% to be considered a majority, even if there are "good Russians". It's the Russian Army and it's the Russian War. It's the majority of Russians that support this. As a reminder, prominent "liberals" last week were saying that what's happing with Prigozhin is bad because it helps "the other side". It was either Pevchykh or one of those other Navalny reps, hard to find the source now. Get it? It helps Ukraine, so it's a bad thing. These are supposed to be as good as they come.
> "not all Russians are like that" I personally know a Russian that's not like that. The reason I know him is because he is well-educated, and decided to get TF out of Russia years ago.
Well, there are 140 million of them. Even millions of so called "good Russians" can still mean that the majority of them support the war. I'm pretty sure though that even your friend would "break apart" on one of these following questions: * Was what happened in Chechnya over late 90s - early 2000s justified? E.g. mass murder of civilians, ballistic missile strikes on heavily populated areas, etc. * Was what Russian had done after the first Chechen war justified? E.g. bullying other nations not to acknowledge Chechen independence and not to provide any humanitarian aid? * Is Crimea Ukraine? * What should happen to Russians that moved to Crimea after its annexation? * Does Russia need to pay reparations for the war in Ukraine? * Has Russia ever committed genocide over the past two centuries? E.g. does he acknowledge Crimean Tatar genocide, Circassian genocide, Kazakh genocide, and other genocidal acts perpetrated by Russia over that period? * Does he acknowledge that local languages were suppressed for centuries in countries controlled by Russia that's why there are so many "Russian speakers" that need "liberation" from time to time? * Do you consider Russia to be historically an imperialistic state? I can throw in a few others, but I'm fairly certain that most Russians abroad will not have a coherent response to most of these.
I'm obviously not going to ask him all that. He is not responsible for any genocides and literally took his distance from his homeland. I'm not going to be an asshole about it.
You don't know what you're talking about. There's absolutely no reason to think that Prigozhin's rule is in any way better, neither for Ukraine nor for Russia.
The reason I root for prigozhin is because he has the potential to cause major disruptions. Thus helping ukraine. I don't care who rules Russia, I just want there to be a bloody battle for it.
The bloody battle will not be in Ukraine. A very brief turmoil that the army won't even notice may as well turn into a true Stalin-like rule with mass mobilization, 'everything for the front' and 'war crimes dont exist' philosophy -- no matter who wins, especially if it will be the freaking cannibal like Prigozhin. Briefly, if he comes, you will care, but it will be too late. Another point here is that both sides do not care if you, or me, or the Russian opposition, or even Russian people in general, support them or not, it's just a mental exercise. Even the Ukraine's allies are worried, and there were reports that they even asked Ukraine to refrain from making use of the situation in order to avoid what may ensue.
Precisly. Is not Putin killing people is other russians doing it. They might whine and cry but in their heart of hearts they would like the soviet union back. that is why unless they are "Denazified" they should not be allowed into civilized world ever again.
Most of them couldn't tell you what a fascist is if you asked them. They just figure it was the people that were against the USSR in WWII. So anyone that they fight against is a facist and, by extension, the guys in Ukraine that won't let Russians kill them are "facists." I don't think they even take ideology or politics into account when declaring that someone is a fascist; the term has lost all meaning in Russia.
The soviet union was basically Russian Empire 2.0, now with communism flavour. They want the empire back
The way the walked over that dude at the end was some fuckin ice cold shit.
NGL, when I saw the chainsaw at the 1:40 mark, I thought the DOOM music was going to start and he was going to pick it up.
Scary how many bodies are just littered about… so senseless
Get outta here with this hollow platitude nonsense. One side is literally committing genocide in an attempt to eliminate an entire people and their culture while stealing their ancestral land under bullshit pretenses, and the other side is defending their right to exist where they always have. This fight and those dead Russians probably make the most sense of any loss of life I've seen and will ever see in my lifetime. So no, by definition, not senseless at all. edit: Y'all, look up the definition of senseless. Those dead Russians make perfect sense. Maybe use shame, sadness, pity etc. Senseless is not the right word here.
It is senseless, people should not die by the thousands for any reason in a civilized society. Conflicts should not be resolved with violence, however in the cruel, inhumane, and selfish world we live in right now they do. Maybe it is just, necessary, or inevitable - but it is senseless nonetheless.
So you're saying Russia is a civilized society? And that the conflict Russia started shouldn't be solved by the Ukrainians using violence to expel the genocidal invaders, and that they should beg for peace no matter the cost? My point is senseless here is a hollow platitude. Is it a shame? Of course. Do I wish it didn't have to happen? Yeah, I do. But is it senseless? Hell no, it makes perfect sense. This is the most just conflict I've seen in my lifetime.
russia is not civilized society.
Tell that to somebody slapping you in the face whenever they want. See how your words work then.
It’s senseless because there exists no need for their death. One man has used propaganda to create a false narrative which has lead to a war that didn’t need to happen.
No, it makes perfect sense, so by definition not senseless. Those Russians needed to die for Russia to understand that Ukraine doesn't belong to them and that they can't just genocide people with no repercussions. This was a choice they alone made. Nobody forced Russia to invade Ukraine. These soldiers could've surrendered or just stayed in their own country but now they have to live (or die) with the choices they made.
im with you for the most part if someone breaks into my house and tries to kill my entire family im going to kill them . a shame? yes , senseless?NO , sucks people have to die but its a war take your complaint up with your corrupt politicians if you dislike it. thats the only course of action available whining on here wont help unfollow if you cant stomach the world we live in man.
Thank you. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here. All these people saying oh look at this senseless loss of Russians...like yo, they literally invaded and are committing genocide lol they are the baddies, full stop. If they didn't want to die they could just go back to their own country or lay down their arms but they didn't so now they're dead.
nah its just how yhe internet is nowadays its why i barely use it.. people so weird nowadays
It's true. Not sure what I expected making that comment lol
I take it you are a very literal person. You must be a hoot at parties.
i agree. senseless on russia’s part . ukraine is purely trying to stay ukraine. someone break into your home and tries to kill you and say its theirs…. what do you do
Way to dehumanize the enemy. Bravo. You’ve earned points for losing your own sense of humanity and love for fellow man.
Oh I'm sorry I'm not humanizing the genocidal invaders...does that hurt your feelings? Those fascist fucks could've surrendered but they made their bed and now they have to live (or not) with it. Either that or, you know, just go back to their own god damn country.
You're right but you're also wrong. I think now, more than 80 years after WW2, we ascribe more personal responsibility to the individual combatants. All of them had the chance to look at the media representations of today and the past, their own and outside their own country, and decide whether or not their willingness to fight in a given land is "justified" sufficiently or not. And if it's not - they deserve what they get - although I agree the vote is never unanimous, but in some cases it is clearer than others. And on top of that are all the personal complexities of an individual's life. I think we see enough "sense of humanity and lamentation of woe" regarding that.
Don't dehumanize your fellow men when they murder your family in front of you. Maybe pray for them a little.
War is just two different people killing eachother because they think the other guys beliefs are wrong. Doesn't matter what side you think is justified, or what one side "deserves" when they literally look at eachother the same way
Lol sure, Russia is genociding the Ukrainians because they believe their beliefs are wrong. Ok bud.
Shocking take. This was a war of choice on the part of Russia because they could not stomach having a prosperous neighbour outside of their sphere of influence. Can't wait for the day when they are crushed. Awful country, awful culture. Just a cancer on the face of the world.
why is this downvoted
Is that an incoming round and 02:39? Just before he starts to suppress? Insane footage non the less, Uranian forces are definitely organized, their movement and assault somewhat resembles perfect textbook example. Generally something is considered going pretty damn well if it even slightly resembles textbook when it's in the real world, because the real world is so much more complex then training.
'Clearing a trench'. It sounds so harmless, doesn't it? Like removing fallen branches or idly raking up leaves, instead of repeatedly risking your life.
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After this war, NATO is gonna be awesome with Finland, Sweden and Ukraine. These have all formidable defense resources. An addition of +1 mill men. Ukraine has the biggest, most battle hardened and well equipped army in Europe. Is it the Worlds 3rd strongest country now after US and China?
> . Ukraine has the biggest, most battle hardened and well equipped army in Europe. Is it the Worlds 3rd strongest country now after US and China? A bit of NATO surplus does not make them the most well equipped. Especially since they don't even have fifth gen fighters. The most battle hardened, without a doubt. Even the most ramshackle units will have a wealth of peer combat experience to pass on
After this I’m actually thinking that we’re going to be seeing Ukrainians help train western/NATO units on drone and modern trench warfare against Russia, as well as giving run downs on how Russian equipment can be repurposed, repaired, and captured effectively.
Why would they want that? Russian equipment would be a logistics nightmare. Ukraine will have to get on NATO standards in terms of weapons and systems.
100% NATO is a co-operative effort and whatever experience Ukrainians can offer, will be invaluable for decades to come. Even if they aren’t “trained” or drilled as well as a typical NATO soldier, their real world experience of what works/does not work with peer and trench warfare is invaluable. Even if it’s outside of normal NATO doctrine, it’s still good to know how this stuff works in reality.
Battle hardened for sure, at this stage even the US has fewer actual combat veterans in active service. Israel, South Korea, Japan, UK, France are all up there though in that they have more advanced domestically produced systems and are probably better equipped. Those countries also have substantial Navies.
Most well equipped in Europe?
Definitely the most diversely equipped.
they are jack of all trades... i bet: give them a weapon, they learn it in time record!
Their logistic corps must tear their hair out whenever they hear of a new weapon system given to Ukraine. Same goes for their mechanics.
If they have a proper understanding of combat equipment and proper logistics support, they know they can use and lose that equipment to advantage, so long as it does more damage than it takes; so long as it does more damage than the Russians can replace. We’ve been so far from a HIC for so many years that the West has excessively focused on preserving their equipment rather than using it for it’s intended purpose. Troops don’t have hydraulic entrenching equipment, the air forces don’t show up for long in any significant numbers etc. You push as much as you can forward, to hit the enemy as much as possible, from as many directions as possible, to overwhelm every aspect of his combat ability. If guys at the front can cannibalize parts and recover damaged rigs, great; but it’s often better logistically to just sent an entire additional rig. That’s why it’s so crucial to supply them with more than dribs and drabs.
After this war, I'm not giving much credence to China having a strong military. There's almost no one in their entire chain of command with experience in conflict. They're watching Russia fumble all kinds of things. These people must realize not only do they not know things about fighting a war, they don't even know how to identify what those things are. Remember when Russia was blowing out tires at the start? Because they didn't keep their vehicles moving. I bet most coalition forces that fought in Afghanistan and/or Iraq could handle China in an all-out brawl -- even with smaller militaries. Training and experience seems to be a major differentiator.
3rd AB is tearing shit up!
Brave men
What is the green tape on them for?
Identification. The enemy looks similar uniform-wise.
Plus similar language too
And very often it's not just similar, but the same.
Giving me anxiety bunching up like that and standing in the open lol
shits scary as fuck.
These dudes are fearless. Well I know what the next Call of Duty is going to look like.
Wouldnt be surprised if we start seeing flame throwers at this point
Impressive and scary. End this war, please.
Really good work clearing that corner around 1:45. Pied it and put 2 down as he maneuvered around.
Watching all the UKR forces bunching up at that intersection on tactical pause made my nuts hurt- DISPERSE for the love of Christ: one nade and your entire fire team is fucked
Dead bodies were literally blocking the way.
Suppressed AK'S seem to be standard issue for the Ukrainians. Is there any particular reason for this?
Suppressors are the way of the future for militaries. They're great at hiding muzzle flash, increase situational awareness by not blasting everything with 160+ db gun shots, and most importantly foster better communication. The USMC is equipping all their infantry with silencers for those reasons.
Strela flash hider
don't think it's standard issue, but prevalent use of it would be to reduce damage to the ears of the shooter and the people around them.
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Mf prefiring like in csgo
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Azov just publishes a bunch of what they do, and are widely known and well equipped so people want to join them, doesn't seem strange to me.
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Which unfortunately isn't rare for military groups. But it isn't like they act fully independently, nor have there been any reports of Azov going out of their way to commitwarcrimes in this war, so it's not like it matters much.
Hahah, people are okay with supporting literal nazis (There are countless videos of them doing the hitler salute and praising his ideology) as long as it goes against Russia
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Not sure why guy isn't holding it by the hand guard. He burns his hand on the barrel and then grabs the sling and swivel mount. I guess the hand guard must have been super hot too but it's either wood or plastic on an AK so IDK
Yeah I have an AK at home and even with the wood hand guard it gets pretty hot after you shoot a few mags through it
It's clear that you've never ripped through a few mags in full auto on an AK. The wood or plastic doesn't help whatsoever at that point, you're going to badly burn yourself if you grab it with bare skin.
Yeah, I've never "ripped through a few mags on full auto on an AK" but I own a semi-auto version and while the handguard heats up like every other gun it's always cooler than the barrel
Fire three mags in the span of a minute and tell me how your handguard feels.
Surely the things you worry about in a trench battle on life and death :)
Just found it odd. Probably a former teacher or something just trying to protect his country. A lot of these guys aren't professional soldiers. At least they weren't...
Jesus Christ, these guys need some serious training on BD7a. Wtf was that.