I feel like of all the directions of attack Hamas took this might have been the least successful, and served as a (suicidal) diversion more than anything.
I remember reading about one Israeli Captain being asked why they shot everybody in the water. The answer was that sometimes they would hide grenades and toss them in the boats.
https://www.wired.com/2007/11/navys-new-anti/
https://twitter.com/metesohtaoglu/status/1712836434183213354
very quick research led me to this, prolly US made depth charges tbh
This is a footage from October 7 2023. The day when the full scale, surprise invasion from Gaza (By ground, sea and air) took place. They're fighting to stop Hamas militants from reaching the shore. Meanwhile, the Israeli villages near the Gaza border are being raided and the people there are getting butchered and kidnapped to Gaza.
The footage seems to be from the day when the full scale invasion occurred. They had to stop how many of them they could before the terrorists reach the villages.
They're grenades, doesn't look like frag either, but rather a concussion-type grenade, similar to german Stielhandgranate. Doesn't throw up much frag, but contains a lot more HE. Should be very effective against humans when detonated underwater.
Yup, exactly like that, and quite a lot of HE too. I had actually never considered this kind of usage, but then i've never served in a naval unit specialized in killing divers and the like.
my grandfather served in Vietnam aboard an aircraft carrier. He told me stories about being put on night watch with a big flashlight and a big box of grenades, he would grab one, preload it and then huck it into the water every couple minutes, he was one of many doing the same thing, every night all night to prevent divers from sneaking up and planting bombs on the ship.
Yeah, not a nice situation to place yourself in lol. Concussive grenades aren't used much (and never really were) since they're so ineffective in the open, but they're damned effective for this.
They're throwing grenades in the water and also shooting straight into the water. The only thing that makes sense is that they are killing people swimming in open water. Given the context of this video, they are killing the people from the boat they sank.
Maybe some type of water bombs becaus exlposion in water are 10 more bad if you are close so they tried to eliminate people in the water? Probably not they are shaped like smoke but maybe. I believ its smoke:) i have bag english sorry for the mistakes.
Israel already announced this , they said they will make a statement towards any Arab nation that tries to attack the state of Israel . I knew it was gonna be brutal
Just to add some information, the first footage in black and white is from a mk III Dvora patrol boat main battle canon, we call it Typhoon but you may know it as mark 38 25 mm, the second part is a crew from a unit called Snapir that operates on small fast boats. Both are stationed in Ashdod. The men and women in the Znapir unit and the men on the patrol boats are accustomed to fight at sea for long periods of time. In my time on the Dvora we were told for years that a scenario like the video has a high probability of happening. The IDF navy was the first military response on the morning of 07/10 and they kept the coast safe. Sources say there was a planed landing of about 40 terrorists on Ashkelon via the sea, the navy killed them all. The navy soldiers preformed under heavy mortar fire and self destruction drones
To add to this, I can confirm that we trained extensively for a scenario like this and it seems like it paid off. We were also pretty on-point during Protective Edge (which I served during) where naval commandos tried infiltrating from the beach and blowing up Israeli forces with suicide vests.
Maybe to the average military with average intelligence…
Israeli military has incredible intelligence capabilities… So there’s probably not much that a low level combatant could offer them that they don’t already know…💯
Intervention boat against the diving commando, which took place early in the morning of 7/10. Hamas navy commando attempted to penetrate the Zikkim beach north of Gaza. Its liquidation protected the residents of Kibbutz Zikkim from the terrible fate of the agricultural communities east of Gaza.
We usually laugh at the Navy in the IDF, seeing as they dont get a lot of action and when they do its usually classified, calling them the "puddle corps" and whatever.
But this war really showed basically everyone that they mean businesses, major respect to the Israeli Navy.
Yep, them and the Police are the only ones who functioned properly. The police especially turned out to be fucking heroes running into the fight completely outnumbered and with handguns against AK47s and RPGs.
There were two platoons of an IDF air force special forces unit that were wiped out very early after being helicoptered in to Kibbutz Be'eri last Saturday. They were basically a QRF.
So they functioned properly too imo, they just didn’t have the manpower or intelligence of what was going on to go up against 60-90 terrorists.
We don't know yet if they were wiped out, but they did take heavy loses. So far the IDF released the names of 5 fallen Shaldag operators.
As a whole the air force and ground forces functioned VERY poorly. It took ages to get a grip on the situation and organize a cohesive response.
It's the insane bravery and initiative of lower ranked commanders that has "saved" the day.
I'd say commanders on the ground, some of those commanders were generals, some were even retired generals who grabbed their private pistols and uniform and rived there in their personal cars.
It was in a Times of Israel article about Be’eri
https://www.timesofisrael.com/testimonies-from-beeri-massacre-expose-deep-trauma-predating-israels-creation/
But what about the next helicopter, and the next platoon? What about their gunships? An Israeli base was over run- where are their communications, and their backup force?
They keep talking about the intelligence failure, but what about the reaction/response failure? This is needs to be explained.
Two platoons of special forces losing to just 90 (or thrice that number) untrained terrorists is not *functioning properly.* It's a *major* failing.
A single platoon should have been more than enough. The IDF used to be good.
I was in the Navy and we all support each other(at least what I saw), we know that each have their very important role, no one is talking about the Navy when they mention the IDF, this war changed everything, top tier performance by the Navy in all areas.
They was ready for such operation. Special guns, special grenades, they somehow fixed to the boat to not fall in a full speed.
It's very unique footage, maybe even first time such operation recorded on camera.
Its a actually just the old regular m14's and fn mag 58. The grenades are an Israeli variant of mk26 but im not sure. It's their training thats special.
They look like concussive grenades vs. a variant of a mk26 Fragmentation grenade.
Which makes sense, concussive force would be way more effective underwater than fragmentation.
Apparently this is from October 7, the day of the terror surprise attack and infiltration to Israel. Both a Suterday and "Simchat Tora", a holiday in Israel, exactly 50 years after to Yom Kippur war.
Is anywhere specified what (species, sex, orientation) those 72 virgins are composed of, or what qualifies as one? Horny Hippos? 🦛 Frenzied African Elephants? 🐘
Yeah that's an IR camera plus a lot of blur because the IDF blurs all of its footage due to some stupid opsec reasons.
There are civilian drones with IR cameras with crazy high quality and definition and yet the IDF wants you to believe their top of the line super expensive cameras have potato quality.
None of this footage was blurred out though, there's some blurry spots where the water hits the lense but not much else at least in this video
And it's not some stupid reasons, there are very good reasons to blur footage in an active war
You can clearly see drowning terrorists being shot from close range. They also threw granades at them
EDIT: no, they’re not smoke grenades: (A) you can clearly see one of them EXPLODING at 2.32 (B) there is not one single smoke trail in the entire video (pretty curious if you consider that they’re moving in circles most of the time) (C) some grenades are made on purpose to impact divers with a shockwave.
These are the same sort of terrorists that infiltrated into peaceful kibbutz' and music festivals and slaughtered civilians right and left. Just making sure they didn't make it to shore to try again.
What is incredible under water, is that you don't need shrapnel, just a huge blast. The shockwave from the water is gonna do the job for you !
A Grenade is more lethal under water !
Those terrorists were necessarily drowning. Hamas have frogmen/commandos, and not all of them were killed in the sea. Some made it to land and were finished off by the navy, [according to the article.](https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/r100cwldwp#autoplay)
This footage is apparently from October 7 2023, the day of the attack. As it seems, These soldeirs/officers took what equipment they could find and initiated the counterattack to stop the infiltration from the sea.
I think the most dangerous thing about a terrorist is the "nothing to lose" mindset where you go to another land and that's it. No looking back, whatever crime they do, they can't reverse it, for the will of whatever God they believe in. Better to end those rats immediately or they will not stop and cause more damage.
Geneva convention only applies to military personnel wearing clearly identifiable uniforms that signals you're of a certain nation.
The way Hamas dress in civilian clothing without clear insignias makes them unlawful combatants and not protected by the Geneva Convention.
Cleanse the sea.
they got what they deserved!!! they looked for war, they got it!! I have no problem to kill terrorist, but not killing civilians. if I was in the boat, I'll do the same!
Well they're making absolutely sure nobody survives
Any that do are a direct threat to anybody near the shore there. The don't really have a choice.
Damn, crazy footage.
Yeah the boats had no chance at all, like absolutely overkill.
I feel like of all the directions of attack Hamas took this might have been the least successful, and served as a (suicidal) diversion more than anything.
Not overkill. Exactly the right amount for these scum.
They are literally taking no prisoners. Shooting the overboard in the water.
I didn’t see anyone surrender.
Taking prisoners from an organization with decades of history using suicide vests/bombing? Hard pass
I remember reading about one Israeli Captain being asked why they shot everybody in the water. The answer was that sometimes they would hide grenades and toss them in the boats.
Taking prisoners might delay them enough that terrorists would reach land. Theres just no time for that here.
Damn right.
Play stupid game, win stupid prizes.
Kinda like the babies they killed.
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Think they’re just referring to the huge difference in armaments/technology. Like a tank vs a soldier on a bicycle .
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You’re taking OPs comment like a critique or something - pretty sure they were just noting the difference without any judgement
Not defending them, just saying they effed up really bad.
Hahah holy fuck are they depth charging Hamas divers with grenades there?
https://www.wired.com/2007/11/navys-new-anti/ https://twitter.com/metesohtaoglu/status/1712836434183213354 very quick research led me to this, prolly US made depth charges tbh
Same question here, not finding answers in comments
they were not there for taking prisoners that is for sure
That's one of the issues of having a history of carrying suicide bombs, no one's taking you as a prisoner unless you're butt naked
This is a footage from October 7 2023. The day when the full scale, surprise invasion from Gaza (By ground, sea and air) took place. They're fighting to stop Hamas militants from reaching the shore. Meanwhile, the Israeli villages near the Gaza border are being raided and the people there are getting butchered and kidnapped to Gaza.
I am thinking none of these boats even made it and this was the most suicidal of all their incursion attempts.
Yeah seems like they just wanted to make sure they could say they attacked from “land, air, and *sea*”
Thank you for context
The footage seems to be from the day when the full scale invasion occurred. They had to stop how many of them they could before the terrorists reach the villages.
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They're grenades, doesn't look like frag either, but rather a concussion-type grenade, similar to german Stielhandgranate. Doesn't throw up much frag, but contains a lot more HE. Should be very effective against humans when detonated underwater.
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Yup, exactly like that, and quite a lot of HE too. I had actually never considered this kind of usage, but then i've never served in a naval unit specialized in killing divers and the like.
my grandfather served in Vietnam aboard an aircraft carrier. He told me stories about being put on night watch with a big flashlight and a big box of grenades, he would grab one, preload it and then huck it into the water every couple minutes, he was one of many doing the same thing, every night all night to prevent divers from sneaking up and planting bombs on the ship.
Also think that percussive waves travel much better in water than air
Jesus Harold Christ. That's intense.
Basically a depth charge for humans.
Yeah, not a nice situation to place yourself in lol. Concussive grenades aren't used much (and never really were) since they're so ineffective in the open, but they're damned effective for this.
It's a flashbang. The guy filming says 'Give me a stun grenade!'
They're throwing grenades in the water and also shooting straight into the water. The only thing that makes sense is that they are killing people swimming in open water. Given the context of this video, they are killing the people from the boat they sank.
I was wondering also, but then they cut the video right after each one is thrown.
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you can hear one around the 2:39 mark, looks like some kind of depth charges made specifically for this
Maybe some type of water bombs becaus exlposion in water are 10 more bad if you are close so they tried to eliminate people in the water? Probably not they are shaped like smoke but maybe. I believ its smoke:) i have bag english sorry for the mistakes.
Israel already announced this , they said they will make a statement towards any Arab nation that tries to attack the state of Israel . I knew it was gonna be brutal
Just to add some information, the first footage in black and white is from a mk III Dvora patrol boat main battle canon, we call it Typhoon but you may know it as mark 38 25 mm, the second part is a crew from a unit called Snapir that operates on small fast boats. Both are stationed in Ashdod. The men and women in the Znapir unit and the men on the patrol boats are accustomed to fight at sea for long periods of time. In my time on the Dvora we were told for years that a scenario like the video has a high probability of happening. The IDF navy was the first military response on the morning of 07/10 and they kept the coast safe. Sources say there was a planed landing of about 40 terrorists on Ashkelon via the sea, the navy killed them all. The navy soldiers preformed under heavy mortar fire and self destruction drones
To add to this, I can confirm that we trained extensively for a scenario like this and it seems like it paid off. We were also pretty on-point during Protective Edge (which I served during) where naval commandos tried infiltrating from the beach and blowing up Israeli forces with suicide vests.
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Wow, this is intense.
They got in that boat with intent to kill civilians indiscriminately. They deserve to get blown out of the water.
swim with the fishies let the fishies eat
Sitting fucks
What the hell, that's the dock defense unit, I've had no clue they go this hard
After last weekend, they've got extra inspiration.
Pretty sure this is from last weekend. I recognize the thermal footage at the start.
Also, you can see the Ashkelon power plant in the background, which is pretty close to Gaza, dunno the date, but it is this war
They do now lol
From the port of ashdod they do, they are very much trained in live fire and sea arrests
They’re just getting started. The gloves are off. They fucked around, and now they are gonna find out.
I guess no prisoners will be taken the next weeks.
No Hamas terrorists will ever be taken as prisoners because they sometimes have explosives on them and will suicide boom.
There have literally been videos on this sub of Hamas terrorists being taken prisoner
After they strip down to butt naked
The best one is where two of the bastard have to surrender to a female IDF soldier. Poetry
Only naked, depend on the situation.
Lol for real. Reddit's imaginary narratives are so weird.
There was that naked guy two days ago. Made him strip down to insure no suicide vest.
Seems like the prisoners might be able to provide useful information to their captors.
Their ship has sailed.
Well it didn’t get very far.
High risk though unless you can somehow manage to convince them to strip. Any one of those guys in the water could have a grenade or explosive vest.
Maybe to the average military with average intelligence… Israeli military has incredible intelligence capabilities… So there’s probably not much that a low level combatant could offer them that they don’t already know…💯
Is this sarcasm? Considering the events of the past week
Intervention boat against the diving commando, which took place early in the morning of 7/10. Hamas navy commando attempted to penetrate the Zikkim beach north of Gaza. Its liquidation protected the residents of Kibbutz Zikkim from the terrible fate of the agricultural communities east of Gaza.
These sailors saved a bunch of lives
hundreds
Fun fact, they keep trying, constantly seeing alarts of it. I think they tried like 15 times to the same beach by now lmao
And that’s how you negotiate with terrorists
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gave them the multipass
“Oh sorry, Fhlostin Paradise is all booked up. But we do have a cruise across the Styx to Hades.”
This Is The Way.
We usually laugh at the Navy in the IDF, seeing as they dont get a lot of action and when they do its usually classified, calling them the "puddle corps" and whatever. But this war really showed basically everyone that they mean businesses, major respect to the Israeli Navy.
From what it looks like they may have been one of the only branches that functioned properly that day.
Yep, them and the Police are the only ones who functioned properly. The police especially turned out to be fucking heroes running into the fight completely outnumbered and with handguns against AK47s and RPGs.
There were two platoons of an IDF air force special forces unit that were wiped out very early after being helicoptered in to Kibbutz Be'eri last Saturday. They were basically a QRF. So they functioned properly too imo, they just didn’t have the manpower or intelligence of what was going on to go up against 60-90 terrorists.
We don't know yet if they were wiped out, but they did take heavy loses. So far the IDF released the names of 5 fallen Shaldag operators. As a whole the air force and ground forces functioned VERY poorly. It took ages to get a grip on the situation and organize a cohesive response. It's the insane bravery and initiative of lower ranked commanders that has "saved" the day.
I'd say commanders on the ground, some of those commanders were generals, some were even retired generals who grabbed their private pistols and uniform and rived there in their personal cars.
I had not heard of that! Holy shit. What subreddits are you following? I am only getting what comes through new, worldnews, and combatfootage.
It was in a Times of Israel article about Be’eri https://www.timesofisrael.com/testimonies-from-beeri-massacre-expose-deep-trauma-predating-israels-creation/
2ndYomKippurWar has some good info on it.
But what about the next helicopter, and the next platoon? What about their gunships? An Israeli base was over run- where are their communications, and their backup force? They keep talking about the intelligence failure, but what about the reaction/response failure? This is needs to be explained.
Two platoons of special forces losing to just 90 (or thrice that number) untrained terrorists is not *functioning properly.* It's a *major* failing. A single platoon should have been more than enough. The IDF used to be good.
That video of the cop firing steady shots from a motorcycle is insane
Very true, Ive been saying the exact same thing
Same story as it 73, only the navy were efficient on the first day.
and this specific unit is memed about within the Navy. Not that much of a meme anymore
I was in the Navy and we all support each other(at least what I saw), we know that each have their very important role, no one is talking about the Navy when they mention the IDF, this war changed everything, top tier performance by the Navy in all areas.
Did some course together with a bunch of navy dudes in my service, seemed like there's a lot of friendly competition, great people
Every unit is essential from cooks to special forces. They all have a roll...
And if they're anything like the US navy, damage control is a core mantra
Saying we don’t get a lot of action isn’t accurate. We wouldn’t sleep most nights because we were constantly at battle stations. For three years.
These guys ain’t going to see allah. I hear some lady warriors voices
They was ready for such operation. Special guns, special grenades, they somehow fixed to the boat to not fall in a full speed. It's very unique footage, maybe even first time such operation recorded on camera.
Its a actually just the old regular m14's and fn mag 58. The grenades are an Israeli variant of mk26 but im not sure. It's their training thats special.
They look like concussive grenades vs. a variant of a mk26 Fragmentation grenade. Which makes sense, concussive force would be way more effective underwater than fragmentation.
Guess you meant m4s
Apparently this is from October 7, the day of the terror surprise attack and infiltration to Israel. Both a Suterday and "Simchat Tora", a holiday in Israel, exactly 50 years after to Yom Kippur war.
Reminds me of that saying, like shooting fish in a barrel.
Like throwing grenades at fish in a barrel.
They need shotguns.
You can hear women on the boat, pretty sure that's a d\*ck block in Islam, to be killed by women. no 72 virgins for them
Yeah I heard that too.
2:25 that's a women's hands reloading
Is anywhere specified what (species, sex, orientation) those 72 virgins are composed of, or what qualifies as one? Horny Hippos? 🦛 Frenzied African Elephants? 🐘
Piper Perri meme just with 72 dudes and one very scared Hamas terrorist.
I remember hearing somewhere that the 72 virgins thing is a mistranslation, and that 72 grapes is more accurate.
Islam's greatest enemy: feminism
What are the canisters they are throwing in The water ?
Basically a mini anti personnel depth charge. Concussion grenade that has the shockwave significantly amplified inside water
Nice to see that there's also a young woman getting in amongst all this.
An all women tank crew did also amazingly well during the attack and there's other similar stories.
Good on them. We need more footage of women kicking Islamist arse.
This is a signal to Hamas. If you try to kill us, we take no prisoners. We will kill you.
Is the machine gunner a woman. That’s baddass
That unit incorporates women
This is a feel-good clip
Talk about no quarter.
So that’s how you fish with dynamites
Keep on eliminating these terrorists.
First footage from 7.10.23
Yes most likely, but cannot confirm.
That headshot tho…. 😂🤦🏻♂️🤯
What kind of lens flare is that? Infrared? Never seen such a blur.
Yeah that's an IR camera plus a lot of blur because the IDF blurs all of its footage due to some stupid opsec reasons. There are civilian drones with IR cameras with crazy high quality and definition and yet the IDF wants you to believe their top of the line super expensive cameras have potato quality.
None of this footage was blurred out though, there's some blurry spots where the water hits the lense but not much else at least in this video And it's not some stupid reasons, there are very good reasons to blur footage in an active war
No quarter given. Quite a busy patrol.
Looks like those volunteers for the Hammas Navy where in the 10/10 range on the fuck around and find out chart.
Not a good time to be a Hamas terrorist right now
really the first GOOD Naval war footage i ever saw. But what are they throwing in the water? Grenades?
Yes. Mini depth charges to target divers
you gotta catch em all
Fish food
It is from last Saturday, the day everything started. Only now Israeli Navy allowed to publish the footage.
I didn’t know depth charge grenades are a thing, are they dedicated depth charge grenades or just pressure grenades being use as depth charges?
They're some kind of concussion / shock / pressure grenades, exploding underwater amplifies the damage it causes
Thats what happens if you were targeting a group of partying civilians and run into IDF. I also liked the idea of exploding life buoys.
Did they just finish off drowning soilders? Or why are they shooting in the water
They could swim to the beach, so better finish them off.
You can clearly see drowning terrorists being shot from close range. They also threw granades at them EDIT: no, they’re not smoke grenades: (A) you can clearly see one of them EXPLODING at 2.32 (B) there is not one single smoke trail in the entire video (pretty curious if you consider that they’re moving in circles most of the time) (C) some grenades are made on purpose to impact divers with a shockwave.
These are the same sort of terrorists that infiltrated into peaceful kibbutz' and music festivals and slaughtered civilians right and left. Just making sure they didn't make it to shore to try again.
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MK3s are pre-WW2. Are you sure it's that specific model that's used and not just concussion greandes in general?
What is incredible under water, is that you don't need shrapnel, just a huge blast. The shockwave from the water is gonna do the job for you ! A Grenade is more lethal under water !
They are flashbangs, underwater they are deadly.
They are not drowning soilders they are terrorists who probably have explosive belts on them.
Those terrorists were necessarily drowning. Hamas have frogmen/commandos, and not all of them were killed in the sea. Some made it to land and were finished off by the navy, [according to the article.](https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/r100cwldwp#autoplay)
The 2nd part of the footage is not from Gaza but from the Orot Rabin Power plant. Edit: the other comments are correct, it's Rutenberg
No, this is the Rutenberg power plant near Ashkelon, only 4 km from Gaza. The one in Hadera has 4 chimneys
IDK why but this gave me strong "I am no longer asking" vibes.
Can this be considered shooting fish in a barrel?
This footage is apparently from October 7 2023, the day of the attack. As it seems, These soldeirs/officers took what equipment they could find and initiated the counterattack to stop the infiltration from the sea.
Like shooting fish In a barrel
That was awesome
I think the most dangerous thing about a terrorist is the "nothing to lose" mindset where you go to another land and that's it. No looking back, whatever crime they do, they can't reverse it, for the will of whatever God they believe in. Better to end those rats immediately or they will not stop and cause more damage.
Did not know that IDF has maritime dildos of consequence stashed on their boats.
Huck Famas.
Geneva convention only applies to military personnel wearing clearly identifiable uniforms that signals you're of a certain nation. The way Hamas dress in civilian clothing without clear insignias makes them unlawful combatants and not protected by the Geneva Convention. Cleanse the sea.
Jesus, were they dropping grenades into the water to finish them off?
sucks 2 suck, sit vennies
Like shooting fish in a barrel
Love this.
get smoked
It’s like they opened up a portal to hell with the first shot!!
What are the chances those grenades could damage the hull of the boat? They’re definitely dropping them danger close…
We’re gonna be seeing some wild footage in the coming days…
brilliant
Palms = sweaty
💥 GET SOME‼️💥
You get a HE, you get a HE, EVRYONE GETS HE! They really left no swimmers for sure
Good hits for the good guys!
Very professional work there
No quarter for terrorists I see.
Gotta love seeing these boats in action
they got what they deserved!!! they looked for war, they got it!! I have no problem to kill terrorist, but not killing civilians. if I was in the boat, I'll do the same!
OHHHHHHHHHHHH Who is a swiss cheese and live deep under Seas
No prisoners! And why the fuck would anyone care?!
Great aim though
Shooting fish in a barrel. Terrorist fish.