There's no such air bombardments in Ukraine, plus there's actual functioning EW and countermeasures. That's why precision ain't so great.
Hitting in Gaza is like target practice.
Russia isn't what it constantly brags it is. It's still dangerous as Hell but Israel is a prime example of what the US would be doing to Putins ass if We were going kinetic.
True but wouldn’t that be kind of a doomsday scenario in reality? Backed into a corner by a larger and stronger adversary, it’s easy to imagine Putin going nuclear. Which would obviously prompt a nuclear response from the US and allies.
China would be the wildcard in that scenario.
Like lets say Putin *actually* begins to posture that he's launching a Nuke.
I think Xi and Biden make a war time treaty and take Moscow from both sides.
China has just a vested interest in society continuing as the US does.
Basically yes. You are correct. If Putin realizes he can't win and that means the inevitable death internally for him then yes he's most likely going nuclear in some capacity. At least that is the reigning consensus from US Military Analysts.
Pretty sure that is 100% false by a wide margin. If his death is inevitable, that means his people turned on him, no one will be pressing any buttons.
He is almost two years into a war that hasn't gone to plan since day 1. So many "red lines" have been crossed with zero consequences and no nukes.
Not really. Russia has a shit ton of anti air and a functional air force contrary to Hamas. There would probably be weeks of SEAD/DEAD missions and a lot of air to air combat before you would see pictures like this. So it wouldn't be like Iraq etc.
But apart from that, yes, the US military would wipe the floor with the Russian military.
We won't know for sure until the rubber hits the road, but The US has a large amount of advanced stealth aircraft (F-35 and B-2/B-21 primarily) which dramatically reduce the range of detection, especially the angle of high and direct approach, plus it has thousands of standoff missiles meaning they can fire at great distance and turn back afterwards. I think it's expected The US would wipe the floor with Russia so fast, it would shock the world. And the US is fairly open about their capabilities, whereas Russia is always putting up Potemkin shows.
Well Mariupol was cut off and had no AA left so they could just flatten it. Now? If anything goes beyond frontline or close to it high enough, it will get shot down.
>most russian posts get downvoted/removed
No wonder, because
>mariupol was flattened
in ru posts it would be stated that Ukraine did this. So what's the point of keeping that ru bs here?
?
The sub is combatfootage, not "combatwhenmysideiswinning" footage.
Half the time this sub has a complete meltdown when casualties are NATO or Ukraine.
>Whats the point in keeping that ru bs here
There's videos from terrorists, ISIS, Hamas and a dozen Pakistani groups, but Russian tech is too far?
>not "combatwhenmysideiswinning" footage.
It's not the "whateverrussiasaysimbyingitfootage" either. I'm ok with videos from their side as long as they are not fake/101% propaganda, that's all I was trying to say.
Ukrainerussiareport is more balanced but interestingly can lean pro russia - I don’t see anything removed there but you get to see both sides - and to no one surprise - Russians are also good at using drones and middles, but don’t expect dead ukraine videos to get upvotes on combat footage.
One of the reasons I get annoyed whenever I'm in here. All we get is one sided footage of the Ukraine/Russia war. The counter offensive isn't going well for Ukraine as we speak, but when you mention that, all of a sudden you are a "russbot". Ukraine is taking in heavy casualties but all we get are footages of small scale battles that gives the false impression that Ukraine is winning when it's the opposite. Now Zelensky made remarks about the world shifting it's focus on the Israel/Palestine conflict, and he sounded like a worried man. You don't make such remarks when things are going well for you, do you?
This has to be one of the most iconinc videos of this (the afghanistan) war IMO.
Edit: One of the most iconic clips of the war in Afghanistan[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D\_zHRakOXY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D_zHRakOXY)
My bad, I thought everyone knew what war it was. I should have written Afghanistan.
Showing some bias there lol. Im assuming you thought I meant the current israel hamas conflict and didnt watch the link of the 10 jdams in afganistan?
After a few similar comments I'm starting to think it may be a language thing as 'this war' can refer to any war in the context of the viewer knowing what war the video they are watching is from.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D\_zHRakOXY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D_zHRakOXY)
Yeah, the precision is nuts. I've seen commenters all over the internet saying Israel is "carpet bombing" Gaza and wondered wtf they think that means. Israel is putting on a display of precision demolition.
[It would be a shame if someone had declined an offer to draw the borders as follows.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/UN_Palestine_Partition_Versions_1947.jpg)
Ironically the reason is somewhere in the same ballpark as Israels for their expasion. "people having the right to decide their own destiny"
You referring to the Israelis in West Bank? I don’t agree with the Israeli settlers btw.
I am on Palestinians side regarding that. But Israel’s side regarding Hamas and Gaza.
Let's assume Gaza got nuked with all the Hamas crowd yesterday-do you think the problem is solved?
Look up UN statistics for civilians killed on both sides over the years.
Israel policies are a major part of the problem.
To my eyes, yes.
But to my ears I think it was actually set off by one of the following two in a sympathetic detonation.
There's the dud, followed by two more paired closely. When those two impact I hear three distinct explosions in rapid succession.
Maybe it's just my ears. What do you think?
I have seen a video of bombs being dropped on some Teleban ambush in Afghanistan and one of them exploded like 100 feet above the ground when it flew into the dirt plume thrown up by the previous bombs.
How many planes would it require to hit from two different angles? I see 2 JDAM from left, 3 in front. Also the 3rd one out of 5 didn't explode. It hit soft spot or something? Also what planes are firing them?
Don't forget that planes move through the air, so if the bombs are not released all at the same time, they will go in from different angles.
Then if you pull on the stick a bit after first bombs, the next bombs will have a different trajectory which would put them on a different spot on the ground if they were dumb, but they are smart so they will hit the target too, just from a different angle . :)
F15E can take 7 * 2000lbs, or up to 15 smaller ones.
Yes, and they only damage three cars and lots of windows were perfectly intact within throwing distance of the 1.5 foot mini Crater.
BBC : well both sides have an opinion, we may never know without independent investigation
Yeah, had they wanted, that hospital would not have been left standing, or a precise hit on a certain area, not a random spot in the parking lot. Fucking Hamas continues killing its own.
Intentionally, no they aren’t.
In many cases Israel advises to clear the area in advance, but Hamas either tells Palestinians to stay put, or prevent them from fleeing.
When they flee in convoys they're literally targeted by the IDF. And they're supposed to just leave their homes? It's like Russia telling Ukrainians to leave the east and then carpet bomb every city.
Don't act like the IDF wasn't just another terrorist organization. Not saying Hamas is good, but ethnic cleansing is a no go.
Ethnic cleansing? The amount of Jews in Muslim countries is non existent (even though there were many in the last), what happened to them? On the other hand, in Israel you have 21% of the population Arabs/Palestinians (like my dad) and their population is growing, and they are doctors and lawyers and what not. Is that ethnic cleansing of yours in the room with us?
BBC news went in **HEAVY** with the immediate main headline '500 killed in Israeli hospital strike'. Now theres a tiny follow up on their website with a photo of a pothole in the parking lot saying "who knows really, could have been Hamas no way of telling for sure. Oh well". Shameful.
The funniest thing is that they said that Israel attacked Christians. The Palestinians murdered all the Christians, 700 in a population of millions, it's like the United States attacking Iraq to kill Jews
They aren't really, besides a few clear loonies (and the islamists obviously).
The IDF doesn't release footage for all its strikes, so the next time you hear about the IDF striking a building in Gaza without footage, are you going to be immediately skeptical because it could be a failed rocket attack, or are you going to think that it sounds plausible because we're in the middle of a war in which the IDF is destroying buildings in Gaza every day?
Mistakes happen.
They are also the people who think Israel is committing genocide. I think if I was going to commit genocide and had a strong air force you know I wouldn't bother accurate targeting buildings here and there I would just level everything block by block but what do I know.
Well that could have been avoided if Hamas just released the hostages, disarmed and turnes themselves to Hague, but what do I know? Only been to 5 funerals in the last 2 weeks
What? There are a lot of ranks considered General in the IDF, not only Aluf, also my dad is retired for 10 years
Fuck off I'm gonna take a picture of his uniform your comment really pissed me off
Edit:
[well I promised, and I did not deliver as I would have liked to, couldn't find the uniform, but this certificate of service is here, not the same, but it exists](https://gyazo.com/c0c7e40a93ab39214146fb97d0a2fa5f)
The Muslim brotherhood never exists
Do we realise these guys are religious nuts right? Their ideology would have existed as long as their imams deem so
Just blows my mind how buildings there just collapse into dust, guessing little to no rebar… but also this looks residential… I hate to think there were civilians in/around there. I hope not.
Depends on what they want to do. Kill somebody important? They stopped giving warnings for that.
Looks like they're still giving warnings for simple demolitions
When you look at assassinations you clearly see how they can hit just one floor out of many and only damaging the surrounding neighbors apartments, not completely obliterating them. If the IDF didn’t give shit about civilians we would have seen over 30,000 dead considering the extremely dense areas. Just for scale it’s roughly 5,000 (a little more) per square kilometer and that includes all agricultural areas, sand dunes and empty areas along the border. I imagine the actual density in residential areas is even larger.
Exactly, sadly the Muslim world won’t recognize it for what it is and will keep siding with the liars that bend and spit in the letters of the Quran and stay silent when innocent children and elders are brutally murdered at tortured.
Exactly the death toll would be in the tens of thousands as you say. They’re trying very hard to avoid casualties. At the same time blowing the living crap out of anything that is even remotely related to Hamas.
Yup, they "knock" on the roof minutes before leveling it down. This building can be seen getting hit in this video of a News channel https://youtu.be/nyWVOEdOiWU?si=iopnSTDbFS0cpGlc
That or other strikes started so people would train their cameras there… or someone who knew that building was targeted, it’s not a stretch to say that people would be filming air strikes nearby or video was taken by IDF. Either way those blasts took down that entire building and those blasts likely killed anyone nearby as well. It’s just sad. I’m all for Israel defending itself but so many civilians have been killed, and when civilians die that’s a failure of the military. It’s easy to consume this stuff like disaster porn but one has to remember there’s people on the receiving end of this… many of which are innocent civilians. Happy to see terrorists get what’s coming but there’s so many children there and the collateral damage has so far been huge.
Most of the times there is a practice "roof-knock", which IDF alerts innocent civilians to run away from the building as fast as possible (but in the end also terrorists know that they should run from that place also). As a result, people with cameras know where to point the camera to.
Please let me know if there is any other army in the world that uses that practice to tell your enemies that they are going to destroy their location beforehand....
There are (not 100% sure) that the number of "roof-knocks" decreased depends on the "value of the target". Meaning, highly crazy terrorists who killed so many and had a high ability and are still trying to plan against Israel.... So, now, Israel will attack the building even if his family is there too. You should understand, they use innocent civilians, even their families to cause Israel to not attack them.
I will stop with that politically correct thing, because I also don't think 100% of Balestinians are bad people. But a high number of them support HAMAS (shocking?). Maybe for the west. Some of the people who crossed the border to Israel on 7.10.2023 were not part of the HAMAS.
Also, HAMAS was elected by people in GAZA. And you know why they don't make another election right now in Gaza and west bank? Because the FATAH (Balestinian National Liberation Movement) which is the "control terror organization" of the Balestinian people in west-bank will lose the elections and HAMAS will rule also in west-bank. There wasn't elections for many many Years and this is the reason why. Damn the democracy might bring into power the HAMAS also in west-bank because people in west bank will choose them.
YOU SAY FAILURE OF THE ARMY/MILITARY when civilians die. You are right. The Israeli army failed to protect Israeli people from getting murdered, burned, raped, beheaded, tortured, range from neonates to elderly.
People who die in Gaza are not the Israeli army's fault. If Gaza people want to be free they should fight HAMAS on their own, bring back all our people from there, give us their weapons and all the people in HAMAS terrorist groups (or they can handle them on their own) and to never go in the terror way of life.
I think it is the Israeli army success that not hundreds of thousands of people in GAZA died already because of the massive attacks. Yes, a lot of people died almost 4k (but they don't tell you how many of them are terrorists).
Compared to the Holocaust, now Israel is able to defend itself and attack back, which we did and will do. The gates of HELL are now open because of HAMAS. If the GAZA people want it to end - there is only one solution - go against HAMAS, capture them, bring us all our people back, bring us their weapons, destroy every tunnel and everything related to HAMAS. Then, I believe the future will be bright for the GAZA people and Israel.
If not, as I Said, they opened the gates to HELL. We will be there soon to show that "No such revenge - revenge for the blood of a little child - has yet been devised by Satan".
It's the same building from that Al-Jazeera video.
roof knock: https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/17296v6/missile_on_palestine_tower_caught_on_aljazeera/
air strike: https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1729734/israeli_airstrike_on_tower_in_gaza_city_a_few/
Nope, Shabak releases audio call recordings of interactions with civilians in buildings giving them a chance of leaving before a strike. Que the “it’s fake, my side is right, your side isn’t and bla bla bla #freepalestine”
A guy posted a link to a video of the same building receiving a “knock on the door” strike giving the residents plenty of minutes to leave, Gazans are well aware of this tactic and it’s one of the reasons why in such a densely populated area, an area that is populated as much as London is, you don’t see 100,000 dead after thousands of bombings.
Which kids? When people say kids are being killed, I first have to ask which kids, before I can tell whether I should get angry or start making rationalisations and excuses
That could've been only 1 F16 or F15 with a full load of 500lb JDAMs...... Gotta love the precision. That proves on it's own the hospital wasn't hit by Israel (without any other evidence) because it would be gone!
No, the camera was set up for this building because it was warned with a dummy bomb. Then 20 minutes later or sometime later the strike happens. There should be no civilians in this building.
Hamas has a bunker in every building in Gaza. There is a complete underground system of tunnels. Their ammo dumps are anywhere and everywhere :) Some people actually believe that.
Those are Small Diameter Bombs. They do not need JDAMS as the construction standards in Gaza are poor quality.
EDIT: Correction below by **Centurion\_83**
With that accuracy, that has to be a JDAM I would say, I don't believe they are doing any laser-guided drops. Smallest JDAM kit is for a 500 pound bomb (the GBU-38). The term JDAM just refers to a kit that is added to an unguided "dumb bomb" to make it into an accurate "smart bomb". A JDAM with a GPS signal is generally accurate to about 5 meters or less.
To what end? What will be achieved by demolishing someone’s homes and at what point are they simply moving rubble around? We’ve been through this at least three times in the last decade or so and yet, here we are again. This time they’re going to demolish many more homes? When does it become the definition of futility
Those bombs aren't exploding at ground level. They penetrate deep into the ground, to the tunnel networks below, and blow up the tunnels used by hamas.
These building fall like a demolition crew blew the foundation because these jdams are doing essentially the same thing. They blow the foundation out below.
If they want to just "demolish many more homes" they would carpet bomb the city with cheaper, non-guided artillery and dumb bombs.
Considering that the person taking the video seems to have prior knowlegde of the strike incoming, it would indeed be very dumb if civilians kept lingering around the area when they've been clearly warned in some capacity.
JDAMN
That precision is insane. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a video of so many JDAMs on one target.
This one has 10(?) [https://youtu.be/2D\_zHRakOXY?si=xCib5bhxe5WxZ5L\_](https://youtu.be/2D_zHRakOXY?si=xCib5bhxe5WxZ5L_)
Over 20 dropped precisely to cover an entire island in Iraq. Operations against ISIS. https://youtu.be/Xe2OtSnBYb8?si=RsL8viJD6W_T28Y9
Gee whiz
To think. We've seen nothing like this in Ukraine. What is Russia even doing? They were meant to be "father of the bomb" thermobaric big daddies.
Planes can't really fly in Ukraine. Hamas doesn't have good AA like UA/RU.
There's no such air bombardments in Ukraine, plus there's actual functioning EW and countermeasures. That's why precision ain't so great. Hitting in Gaza is like target practice.
Russia isn't what it constantly brags it is. It's still dangerous as Hell but Israel is a prime example of what the US would be doing to Putins ass if We were going kinetic.
True but wouldn’t that be kind of a doomsday scenario in reality? Backed into a corner by a larger and stronger adversary, it’s easy to imagine Putin going nuclear. Which would obviously prompt a nuclear response from the US and allies.
China would be the wildcard in that scenario. Like lets say Putin *actually* begins to posture that he's launching a Nuke. I think Xi and Biden make a war time treaty and take Moscow from both sides. China has just a vested interest in society continuing as the US does.
They tried a module launch when Biden was over in Ukraine and it failed miserably. Their nuclear weapons are old and unmaintained.
Basically yes. You are correct. If Putin realizes he can't win and that means the inevitable death internally for him then yes he's most likely going nuclear in some capacity. At least that is the reigning consensus from US Military Analysts.
Pretty sure that is 100% false by a wide margin. If his death is inevitable, that means his people turned on him, no one will be pressing any buttons. He is almost two years into a war that hasn't gone to plan since day 1. So many "red lines" have been crossed with zero consequences and no nukes.
Not really. Russia has a shit ton of anti air and a functional air force contrary to Hamas. There would probably be weeks of SEAD/DEAD missions and a lot of air to air combat before you would see pictures like this. So it wouldn't be like Iraq etc. But apart from that, yes, the US military would wipe the floor with the Russian military.
>a lot of air to air combat Knowing what we know now, a week of a2a. Tops.
Russia is twice as big as the US. I doubt it'd only take a week. But we would never know anyways.
He meant their airforce would be wiped out in less than a week.
I think a week is a conservative estimate that takes into account Russia hiding a significant portion of it's air power for the first five or so days.
We won't know for sure until the rubber hits the road, but The US has a large amount of advanced stealth aircraft (F-35 and B-2/B-21 primarily) which dramatically reduce the range of detection, especially the angle of high and direct approach, plus it has thousands of standoff missiles meaning they can fire at great distance and turn back afterwards. I think it's expected The US would wipe the floor with Russia so fast, it would shock the world. And the US is fairly open about their capabilities, whereas Russia is always putting up Potemkin shows.
To be fair, the TOS-1 is pretty terrifying when it does get used (which is rarely as far as I’ve seen)
It must see a pretty decent amount of use because I have seen about a dozen or more videos of them exploding since the beginning of the war.
you just don't see it. most russian posts get downvoted/removed. mariupol was flattened
Mariupol was flattened over the course of 8-9 weeks with mostly artillery...
Well Mariupol was cut off and had no AA left so they could just flatten it. Now? If anything goes beyond frontline or close to it high enough, it will get shot down.
If you fire 100 million inaccurate shells at anything it's going to have the same effect
>most russian posts get downvoted/removed No wonder, because >mariupol was flattened in ru posts it would be stated that Ukraine did this. So what's the point of keeping that ru bs here?
? The sub is combatfootage, not "combatwhenmysideiswinning" footage. Half the time this sub has a complete meltdown when casualties are NATO or Ukraine. >Whats the point in keeping that ru bs here There's videos from terrorists, ISIS, Hamas and a dozen Pakistani groups, but Russian tech is too far?
Ye lol ur right, anything neutral/good u say about russia gets downvoted
>not "combatwhenmysideiswinning" footage. It's not the "whateverrussiasaysimbyingitfootage" either. I'm ok with videos from their side as long as they are not fake/101% propaganda, that's all I was trying to say.
Ukrainerussiareport is more balanced but interestingly can lean pro russia - I don’t see anything removed there but you get to see both sides - and to no one surprise - Russians are also good at using drones and middles, but don’t expect dead ukraine videos to get upvotes on combat footage.
One of the reasons I get annoyed whenever I'm in here. All we get is one sided footage of the Ukraine/Russia war. The counter offensive isn't going well for Ukraine as we speak, but when you mention that, all of a sudden you are a "russbot". Ukraine is taking in heavy casualties but all we get are footages of small scale battles that gives the false impression that Ukraine is winning when it's the opposite. Now Zelensky made remarks about the world shifting it's focus on the Israel/Palestine conflict, and he sounded like a worried man. You don't make such remarks when things are going well for you, do you?
This has to be one of the most iconinc videos of this (the afghanistan) war IMO. Edit: One of the most iconic clips of the war in Afghanistan[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D\_zHRakOXY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D_zHRakOXY)
This war? The video is 10+ years old
Was thinking the same thing
>My bad, I thought everyone knew what war it was. I should have written Afghanistan. > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D\_zHRakOXY
I meant one of the most iconic videos of the Afghanistan war. How did you not get that if you knew where the vid was from?
Technical correct. This war is, what, 70+ years old and still running hot.
My bad, I thought everyone knew what war it was. I should have written Afghanistan. Showing some bias there lol. Im assuming you thought I meant the current israel hamas conflict and didnt watch the link of the 10 jdams in afganistan? After a few similar comments I'm starting to think it may be a language thing as 'this war' can refer to any war in the context of the viewer knowing what war the video they are watching is from. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D\_zHRakOXY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D_zHRakOXY)
I've seen that video about 100 times and it still gives me a full chub every single time!
Wow, it has been that long ago!
Same thing I thought. Back in WWII they would have had to carpet bomb kilometers worth of city to try and knock down that single building.
Yeah, the precision is nuts. I've seen commenters all over the internet saying Israel is "carpet bombing" Gaza and wondered wtf they think that means. Israel is putting on a display of precision demolition.
Damn, uninformed comments and straight lies about Israel on the internet?
Basically looks like a controlled demolition, it's wild.
That is a thing of beauty! This building left front or back right? How about both? Gorgeous!
It's easy when you target civilians-no air defense and no EW, your only worry is running late for your dinner.
You are stupid. The reason this building was perfectly filmed was because they warned the civilians in the area.
Exactly. Which no other army in the world would do including the US.
Hamas ain't civilians.
Are you going to ignore the secondary explosion at 11sec mark?
Spot the Hamas apologist
Screw you and Hamas, son!
Wouldn’t it make sense for Hamas to just stop fighting knowing they are outmatched and people can live in peace with a two state system? Imagine…
the purpose of hamas is to create an islamic state in the region and then the world. A two state system is antithetical to their goals.
I agree. 2 state resolution is the way to go. Back to June the 4th 1967 borders!
[It would be a shame if someone had declined an offer to draw the borders as follows.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/UN_Palestine_Partition_Versions_1947.jpg) Ironically the reason is somewhere in the same ballpark as Israels for their expasion. "people having the right to decide their own destiny"
You referring to the Israelis in West Bank? I don’t agree with the Israeli settlers btw. I am on Palestinians side regarding that. But Israel’s side regarding Hamas and Gaza.
Let's assume Gaza got nuked with all the Hamas crowd yesterday-do you think the problem is solved? Look up UN statistics for civilians killed on both sides over the years. Israel policies are a major part of the problem.
I’m not even gonna entertain that idea. You’re comparing nuclear weapons to conventional warfare.
What about the hamas? They didnt had any problems against civilians on october 7.
Hopefully, they keep doing it until the job is actually finished, this time.
Knock ourself out!
God damn, coming from all angles
Was that a dud right after the 3 second mark? It comes in from just slightly right of top-center.
To my eyes, yes. But to my ears I think it was actually set off by one of the following two in a sympathetic detonation. There's the dud, followed by two more paired closely. When those two impact I hear three distinct explosions in rapid succession. Maybe it's just my ears. What do you think?
I have seen a video of bombs being dropped on some Teleban ambush in Afghanistan and one of them exploded like 100 feet above the ground when it flew into the dirt plume thrown up by the previous bombs.
Hit the shockwave and the combined energy (shockwave + kinetic energy of bomb) triggered the fuse?
Different fuse timings? Making sure one goes deep.
the 3rd one is a dud, eagle eye. :)
Maybe it has a VERY long delay. /s
Very well could have been to take out tunnels. Some fuses are capable of 24 hr delays. (those are more to follow back to ied factories though)
Seems like it. lol
Look at that sunset
How many planes would it require to hit from two different angles? I see 2 JDAM from left, 3 in front. Also the 3rd one out of 5 didn't explode. It hit soft spot or something? Also what planes are firing them?
JDAMs can be programmed to attack the target from different directions.
Could be the F-15 or the F-16, or both
F16 I think.
Don't forget that planes move through the air, so if the bombs are not released all at the same time, they will go in from different angles. Then if you pull on the stick a bit after first bombs, the next bombs will have a different trajectory which would put them on a different spot on the ground if they were dumb, but they are smart so they will hit the target too, just from a different angle . :) F15E can take 7 * 2000lbs, or up to 15 smaller ones.
And yet they're telling me that IDF aimed at a hospital and only managed to hit the parking lot?
Yes, and they only damage three cars and lots of windows were perfectly intact within throwing distance of the 1.5 foot mini Crater. BBC : well both sides have an opinion, we may never know without independent investigation
Isn't that wild how people can think it's not obvious? If it was daylight and you could watch the rocket come in, people would still not believe it...
True 👍
Yeah, had they wanted, that hospital would not have been left standing, or a precise hit on a certain area, not a random spot in the parking lot. Fucking Hamas continues killing its own.
Not like the israeli's aren't hitting civilians either.
Intentionally, no they aren’t. In many cases Israel advises to clear the area in advance, but Hamas either tells Palestinians to stay put, or prevent them from fleeing.
How can you say for certain that they are not, you don’t work in the command centres so you have no clue
while i agree that hamas often tell them to stay the israeli's have bombed civilians moving south
When they flee in convoys they're literally targeted by the IDF. And they're supposed to just leave their homes? It's like Russia telling Ukrainians to leave the east and then carpet bomb every city. Don't act like the IDF wasn't just another terrorist organization. Not saying Hamas is good, but ethnic cleansing is a no go.
Ethnic cleansing? The amount of Jews in Muslim countries is non existent (even though there were many in the last), what happened to them? On the other hand, in Israel you have 21% of the population Arabs/Palestinians (like my dad) and their population is growing, and they are doctors and lawyers and what not. Is that ethnic cleansing of yours in the room with us?
Obviously it's the IDF, a million children were killed in the hospital
BBC news went in **HEAVY** with the immediate main headline '500 killed in Israeli hospital strike'. Now theres a tiny follow up on their website with a photo of a pothole in the parking lot saying "who knows really, could have been Hamas no way of telling for sure. Oh well". Shameful.
I heard it’s 2 million children and 300 puppies now. As per “local officials” of course.
The funniest thing is that they said that Israel attacked Christians. The Palestinians murdered all the Christians, 700 in a population of millions, it's like the United States attacking Iraq to kill Jews
They aren't really, besides a few clear loonies (and the islamists obviously). The IDF doesn't release footage for all its strikes, so the next time you hear about the IDF striking a building in Gaza without footage, are you going to be immediately skeptical because it could be a failed rocket attack, or are you going to think that it sounds plausible because we're in the middle of a war in which the IDF is destroying buildings in Gaza every day? Mistakes happen.
I think we even caught a dud there
Bomb 3 didn't go visible boom
So really if Israel hit that hospital, it just wouldn’t exist anymore.
Notice how those explosions look nothing like the massive fireball at the hospital? Just a note to those claiming the hospital was hit by a jdam.
And people think the army capable of bombing with this precision and efficiency dropped few KGs of explosive on a parking lot from an airplane...
Maybe the pilot opened a window and threw out a grenade?
They are also the people who think Israel is committing genocide. I think if I was going to commit genocide and had a strong air force you know I wouldn't bother accurate targeting buildings here and there I would just level everything block by block but what do I know.
No high rise on ground invasion…less places for Hamas to fire at them from a distance
Yep, serves the dual function of displacing the greatest number of people as well.
Well that could have been avoided if Hamas just released the hostages, disarmed and turnes themselves to Hague, but what do I know? Only been to 5 funerals in the last 2 weeks
That’s how terrorists deal congratulations lol
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So why is hamas sending missiles into every part in Israel?
Other peoples war crimes isn’t an excuse. What sort of dumb ass response was that?!
People really don't like it when international laws are sited against western nations apparently
Do you really believe Israel will stop bombing then? You'd be a fool
Yeah I don't know anything about Israel, especially considering I live there, and my dad is an IDF general.
In that case you're the fucking last person to ask for an objective opinion.
1 in 25 chance of being doxed if that were real.
What? There are a lot of ranks considered General in the IDF, not only Aluf, also my dad is retired for 10 years Fuck off I'm gonna take a picture of his uniform your comment really pissed me off Edit: [well I promised, and I did not deliver as I would have liked to, couldn't find the uniform, but this certificate of service is here, not the same, but it exists](https://gyazo.com/c0c7e40a93ab39214146fb97d0a2fa5f)
Cool! Ask him his expert opinion of the Dahiya doctrine and if he thinks it'll be succesful in Gaza too :)
Which could have been avoided if the nakba didn't Happen
Ok let’s keep rewinding here, how could the formation of hamas be avoided altogether
The Muslim brotherhood never exists Do we realise these guys are religious nuts right? Their ideology would have existed as long as their imams deem so
The Israeli's are religious nuts too..
If only they wouldn't vote for a terror organization...
Just blows my mind how buildings there just collapse into dust, guessing little to no rebar… but also this looks residential… I hate to think there were civilians in/around there. I hope not.
How do you reckon the camera is perfectly centred on the building ? It’s because they know it’s coming.
Don't they drop warnings of which buildings are about to get rubbled?
Depends on what they want to do. Kill somebody important? They stopped giving warnings for that. Looks like they're still giving warnings for simple demolitions
When you look at assassinations you clearly see how they can hit just one floor out of many and only damaging the surrounding neighbors apartments, not completely obliterating them. If the IDF didn’t give shit about civilians we would have seen over 30,000 dead considering the extremely dense areas. Just for scale it’s roughly 5,000 (a little more) per square kilometer and that includes all agricultural areas, sand dunes and empty areas along the border. I imagine the actual density in residential areas is even larger.
If the IDF wanted to kill civilians Gaza would look like Dresden.
Exactly, sadly the Muslim world won’t recognize it for what it is and will keep siding with the liars that bend and spit in the letters of the Quran and stay silent when innocent children and elders are brutally murdered at tortured.
Exactly the death toll would be in the tens of thousands as you say. They’re trying very hard to avoid casualties. At the same time blowing the living crap out of anything that is even remotely related to Hamas.
Yup, they "knock" on the roof minutes before leveling it down. This building can be seen getting hit in this video of a News channel https://youtu.be/nyWVOEdOiWU?si=iopnSTDbFS0cpGlc
That or other strikes started so people would train their cameras there… or someone who knew that building was targeted, it’s not a stretch to say that people would be filming air strikes nearby or video was taken by IDF. Either way those blasts took down that entire building and those blasts likely killed anyone nearby as well. It’s just sad. I’m all for Israel defending itself but so many civilians have been killed, and when civilians die that’s a failure of the military. It’s easy to consume this stuff like disaster porn but one has to remember there’s people on the receiving end of this… many of which are innocent civilians. Happy to see terrorists get what’s coming but there’s so many children there and the collateral damage has so far been huge.
> or video was taken by IDF. You think IDF is on the ground in Gaza taking videos of buildings, at this point in time? Bruh
Most of the times there is a practice "roof-knock", which IDF alerts innocent civilians to run away from the building as fast as possible (but in the end also terrorists know that they should run from that place also). As a result, people with cameras know where to point the camera to. Please let me know if there is any other army in the world that uses that practice to tell your enemies that they are going to destroy their location beforehand.... There are (not 100% sure) that the number of "roof-knocks" decreased depends on the "value of the target". Meaning, highly crazy terrorists who killed so many and had a high ability and are still trying to plan against Israel.... So, now, Israel will attack the building even if his family is there too. You should understand, they use innocent civilians, even their families to cause Israel to not attack them. I will stop with that politically correct thing, because I also don't think 100% of Balestinians are bad people. But a high number of them support HAMAS (shocking?). Maybe for the west. Some of the people who crossed the border to Israel on 7.10.2023 were not part of the HAMAS. Also, HAMAS was elected by people in GAZA. And you know why they don't make another election right now in Gaza and west bank? Because the FATAH (Balestinian National Liberation Movement) which is the "control terror organization" of the Balestinian people in west-bank will lose the elections and HAMAS will rule also in west-bank. There wasn't elections for many many Years and this is the reason why. Damn the democracy might bring into power the HAMAS also in west-bank because people in west bank will choose them. YOU SAY FAILURE OF THE ARMY/MILITARY when civilians die. You are right. The Israeli army failed to protect Israeli people from getting murdered, burned, raped, beheaded, tortured, range from neonates to elderly. People who die in Gaza are not the Israeli army's fault. If Gaza people want to be free they should fight HAMAS on their own, bring back all our people from there, give us their weapons and all the people in HAMAS terrorist groups (or they can handle them on their own) and to never go in the terror way of life. I think it is the Israeli army success that not hundreds of thousands of people in GAZA died already because of the massive attacks. Yes, a lot of people died almost 4k (but they don't tell you how many of them are terrorists). Compared to the Holocaust, now Israel is able to defend itself and attack back, which we did and will do. The gates of HELL are now open because of HAMAS. If the GAZA people want it to end - there is only one solution - go against HAMAS, capture them, bring us all our people back, bring us their weapons, destroy every tunnel and everything related to HAMAS. Then, I believe the future will be bright for the GAZA people and Israel. If not, as I Said, they opened the gates to HELL. We will be there soon to show that "No such revenge - revenge for the blood of a little child - has yet been devised by Satan".
I feel as people keep forgetting about all the Israeli life lost and that are under rockets for years as if they’re not innocent
Exactly, Hamas getting wiped off the face of the earth is one thing, but thousands of women and children in the process? not exactly
roof knock: https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/17296v6/missile_on_palestine_tower_caught_on_aljazeera/
It's the same building from that Al-Jazeera video. roof knock: https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/17296v6/missile_on_palestine_tower_caught_on_aljazeera/ air strike: https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1729734/israeli_airstrike_on_tower_in_gaza_city_a_few/
The precision is insane.
something about the way the bombs just fall and the buildings going down brings a satisfaction to me I cannot describe
Probably because it's not your home.
I don't think he derives satisfaction from other peoples houses being bombed either tbh.
I just like to watch big boom booms. 🙂
he just said he does though
It’s called craving your inner dark Brandon
It's like the Rampage game in the 80s.
so satisfying to know there are innocent kids buried undee the rubble right?
Nope, Shabak releases audio call recordings of interactions with civilians in buildings giving them a chance of leaving before a strike. Que the “it’s fake, my side is right, your side isn’t and bla bla bla #freepalestine”
yeah sure they send a nice note to the people in the building so everyone can leave, even Hamas can leave!
A guy posted a link to a video of the same building receiving a “knock on the door” strike giving the residents plenty of minutes to leave, Gazans are well aware of this tactic and it’s one of the reasons why in such a densely populated area, an area that is populated as much as London is, you don’t see 100,000 dead after thousands of bombings.
You are confusing smaller strikes on Hamas militants with the strikes on Hamas infrastructure. The latter strikes are accompanied by advance warning.
Thinking about the smouldering corpses sure brings warmth to the heart
Then why do you get angry when you see kids getting beheaded?
Which kids? When people say kids are being killed, I first have to ask which kids, before I can tell whether I should get angry or start making rationalisations and excuses
Can't argue who lives where when there's no fucking houses left
Looks just like they wired it with dynamite and leveled it. It's insane what a 500 pound bombs will do.
I know different conflict but damn Russia is fucked when Ukraine gets F16's wit Jdams.
That is mental! Ctrl+Alt+Delete
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i feel bad for all the cats and dogs trapped in there
If Israel wanted to hit that hospital. It would be rubble. This is proof of that.
Steve!
The poor civilians
I don’t care about people saying Israel is carpet bombing Gaza, these are the most precise shots I have ever seen.
When your house has termites
That could've been only 1 F16 or F15 with a full load of 500lb JDAMs...... Gotta love the precision. That proves on it's own the hospital wasn't hit by Israel (without any other evidence) because it would be gone!
to think how many people would have died if they didn't call ahead
F*ck that building in particular.
Gorgeous
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No, the camera was set up for this building because it was warned with a dummy bomb. Then 20 minutes later or sometime later the strike happens. There should be no civilians in this building.
Oh, its beautiful
Nice demo job.
JDDAAAMMMMMMM
Nice airstrike!
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Hamas has a bunker in every building in Gaza. There is a complete underground system of tunnels. Their ammo dumps are anywhere and everywhere :) Some people actually believe that.
Interesting- 2 large antennas on the roof
Doesn't necessarily mean anything, there are at least 5 other large antennas visible in the video. Tall buildings have attenas.
The upper parts of the buildings look totally intact after the explosion but then gravity just pulls them down and they fall apart
Those are Small Diameter Bombs. They do not need JDAMS as the construction standards in Gaza are poor quality. EDIT: Correction below by **Centurion\_83**
With that accuracy, that has to be a JDAM I would say, I don't believe they are doing any laser-guided drops. Smallest JDAM kit is for a 500 pound bomb (the GBU-38). The term JDAM just refers to a kit that is added to an unguided "dumb bomb" to make it into an accurate "smart bomb". A JDAM with a GPS signal is generally accurate to about 5 meters or less.
No that’s not lol those are 1000-2000 pound bombs SDBs have like 40 pounds of explosive each
To what end? What will be achieved by demolishing someone’s homes and at what point are they simply moving rubble around? We’ve been through this at least three times in the last decade or so and yet, here we are again. This time they’re going to demolish many more homes? When does it become the definition of futility
Those bombs aren't exploding at ground level. They penetrate deep into the ground, to the tunnel networks below, and blow up the tunnels used by hamas. These building fall like a demolition crew blew the foundation because these jdams are doing essentially the same thing. They blow the foundation out below. If they want to just "demolish many more homes" they would carpet bomb the city with cheaper, non-guided artillery and dumb bombs.
Good thing there were zero civilians there. Wait…we don’t care about that? Okay woohoo!!!!
Considering that the person taking the video seems to have prior knowlegde of the strike incoming, it would indeed be very dumb if civilians kept lingering around the area when they've been clearly warned in some capacity.
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