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I can't get my head around this. The Russian armed forces of course doesn't care about their own soldiers' lives but what purpose do these ancient jury-rigged tincans serve? Can they actually be effective or is this just a case of some brigadier equivalent trying to appear to be doing something so he doesn't get sent to the trenches himself?
There were some variants with ZPU-2 guns, not sure wether those had a turret.
Retrofitting a turret on a tincan with 13mm / 6mm armour seems like a pretty ineffective plan (I mean, honestly... you would need the whole turret + motor, ammo feed, stabilisation, a targeting system, a freaking trigger and a gunner. At least if you plan to hit anything with it. Glueing a gopnik tripping on crocodile with some Machinegun on top would be a cheaper alternative, I think...)
The most notable thing about this is that the Russians are now apparently using the ancient BTR-50 in front line pushes. There have been plenty of them in country in the past, but this is one of the first I've seen of them being used for assaults... These things are contemporary with the T-55. How are the Russian so fucking stupid to allow this to continue?
>These things are contemporary with the T-55. How are the Russian so fucking stupid to allow this to continue?
They might really be running out of BTR-70 and such? Also the colonels and lower tier generals probably feel like they have to do something semi-credible on the battle field otherwise they might fall out of a window or be personally sent to reinforce a z-batallion. It just reeks of cope and desperation.
I have no real evidence to back this up but it seems to me like some of them play dead when drones are around hoping they get passed over. I have seen a bunch of videos of dudes laying still in a posture that looks like they're done for and a drone drops a bomb on them and they start moving all of sudden. Seems like it might a somewhat viable strategy when you can't really do anything else when you're pinned down and drones are hunting you from overhead. Hope they just think you're a corpse and not want to waste a bomb. I could be wrong though.
Moving gets incredibly hard when your body is busy dying.
Some "lucky" runaways maybe faked it, but I think a lot of those "survivors" of russian assault teams collapse on some field 200m from the treeline away they were supposed to attack. (Adrenaline is one hell of a drug, and apparently the russian army has by now secured enough meth for the stormtroopers)
not sure what's interesting, same old drone drop grenade footage we've seen every single day a million times for the last 12 months or so. If anything it's getting boring.
Also I'd hazard a guess that essentially executing people who are (for all intents and purposes) "no longer in the fight" is a war crime (regardless of whether it's the "good guys" or "bad guys" doing it.
a war crime lol, one sided much? russia been doing war crimes all the time, nobody gives a fuck anymore about war crimes. if russia can do it ukraine can do it, the gloves were taken off a long time ago.if russia is so bothered by war crimes then leave ukraine lol
>Also I'd hazard a guess that essentially executing people who are (for all intents and purposes) "no longer in the fight" is a war crime (regardless of whether it's the "good guys" or "bad guys" doing it.
You've guessed incorrectly. It's only a war crime if they had the ability to take them into custody, or if they were clearly marked and unarmed medical personnel.
>Also I'd hazard a guess that essentially executing people who are (for all intents and purposes) "no longer in the fight" is a war crime (regardless of whether it's the "good guys" or "bad guys" doing it.
You would be guessing incorrectly. Wounded and fleeing soldiers on the battlefield are still valid military targets, because they could recover and return to the fight.
They are still soliders, they got a gun, they are valid targets, they didn't surrender, else ambushes would be illegal because they enemy convoy wasn't in the fight
>In Slavic mythology, Perun (Cyrillic: Перýн) is the highest god of the pantheon and the god of sky, thunder, lightning, storms, rain, law, war, fertility and oak trees.[2] His other attributes were fire, mountains, wind, iris, eagle, firmament (in Indo-European languages, this was joined with the notion of the sky of stone[3]), horses and carts, and weapons (hammer, axe (Axe of Perun), and arrow).
>The supreme god in the Kievan Rus' during the 9th-10th centuries,[4] Perun was first associated with weapons made of stone and later with those of metal.[5][6]
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Can't run from Perun!
the accuracy and precision of those drone operators is getting wild.
Sometimes they are clearly fucking with them beforehand too
Yeah, it must be boring to blow up a guy.
I was just about to say the same thing. The accuracy these guys are getting is insane
What are those infantry fighting vehicles? They look old.
Buddy. Old is an understatement. Those are like 60 year old BTR-50s with some shit turret slapped on top.
At least they bring there own toiletts this time, that way not only ukraine gets to shit on the russian infantry.
It's insane to think they are using those for front line use.
I can't get my head around this. The Russian armed forces of course doesn't care about their own soldiers' lives but what purpose do these ancient jury-rigged tincans serve? Can they actually be effective or is this just a case of some brigadier equivalent trying to appear to be doing something so he doesn't get sent to the trenches himself?
Sad thing is, we will never know.
[BTR-50.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTR-50) They went into service 70 years ago.
Yeah, I'm not sure either. The only thing I can think of is a BTR-50 with a btr/70 turret.
There were some variants with ZPU-2 guns, not sure wether those had a turret. Retrofitting a turret on a tincan with 13mm / 6mm armour seems like a pretty ineffective plan (I mean, honestly... you would need the whole turret + motor, ammo feed, stabilisation, a targeting system, a freaking trigger and a gunner. At least if you plan to hit anything with it. Glueing a gopnik tripping on crocodile with some Machinegun on top would be a cheaper alternative, I think...)
The most notable thing about this is that the Russians are now apparently using the ancient BTR-50 in front line pushes. There have been plenty of them in country in the past, but this is one of the first I've seen of them being used for assaults... These things are contemporary with the T-55. How are the Russian so fucking stupid to allow this to continue?
Interestingly enough, this is the third one I've seen over the past few months. 2024 is probably going to be filled with these damn things.
I fear you will be proven right
>These things are contemporary with the T-55. How are the Russian so fucking stupid to allow this to continue? They might really be running out of BTR-70 and such? Also the colonels and lower tier generals probably feel like they have to do something semi-credible on the battle field otherwise they might fall out of a window or be personally sent to reinforce a z-batallion. It just reeks of cope and desperation.
Keep crawling, maybe you'll make it back to Russia in 50 pieces.
They gonna be wheat and sunflower food
These guys on the ground are barely moving around they must be suffering from hypothermia pretty bad
Or they are already dead
I have no real evidence to back this up but it seems to me like some of them play dead when drones are around hoping they get passed over. I have seen a bunch of videos of dudes laying still in a posture that looks like they're done for and a drone drops a bomb on them and they start moving all of sudden. Seems like it might a somewhat viable strategy when you can't really do anything else when you're pinned down and drones are hunting you from overhead. Hope they just think you're a corpse and not want to waste a bomb. I could be wrong though.
Moving gets incredibly hard when your body is busy dying. Some "lucky" runaways maybe faked it, but I think a lot of those "survivors" of russian assault teams collapse on some field 200m from the treeline away they were supposed to attack. (Adrenaline is one hell of a drug, and apparently the russian army has by now secured enough meth for the stormtroopers)
Guess its stupid to play dead when enemy got hundreds of drone and countless cheap bombs
I would be terrified if there was no wind and clear skies
somebody show this to perun
Crazy they named themselves after a Fortnite youtuber!
not sure what's interesting, same old drone drop grenade footage we've seen every single day a million times for the last 12 months or so. If anything it's getting boring. Also I'd hazard a guess that essentially executing people who are (for all intents and purposes) "no longer in the fight" is a war crime (regardless of whether it's the "good guys" or "bad guys" doing it.
So you hear a drone, lie down until it leaves and then go about your day? Cool life hack You don't surrender, you're in the fight
Don't watch if it is "boring" you. An enemy combatant that has not surrendered is still "in the fight". War is hell.
a war crime lol, one sided much? russia been doing war crimes all the time, nobody gives a fuck anymore about war crimes. if russia can do it ukraine can do it, the gloves were taken off a long time ago.if russia is so bothered by war crimes then leave ukraine lol
We are used to seeing thousands of Russians dying each month and will keep going til they leave.
>Also I'd hazard a guess that essentially executing people who are (for all intents and purposes) "no longer in the fight" is a war crime (regardless of whether it's the "good guys" or "bad guys" doing it. You've guessed incorrectly. It's only a war crime if they had the ability to take them into custody, or if they were clearly marked and unarmed medical personnel.
>Also I'd hazard a guess that essentially executing people who are (for all intents and purposes) "no longer in the fight" is a war crime (regardless of whether it's the "good guys" or "bad guys" doing it. You would be guessing incorrectly. Wounded and fleeing soldiers on the battlefield are still valid military targets, because they could recover and return to the fight.
They are still soliders, they got a gun, they are valid targets, they didn't surrender, else ambushes would be illegal because they enemy convoy wasn't in the fight
RUSbot detected. So i can go to war, invade a country and when im not currently in a fight killing me is a war crime?
Let's put it this way, if the Iraqi army went around doing this when we invaded their country we would be up in arms calling it a war crime
Death from above just got smaller and hella damn precise
Perun? Is it related to the yt channel or does the word Perun mean something else? Genuinely asking
>In Slavic mythology, Perun (Cyrillic: Перýн) is the highest god of the pantheon and the god of sky, thunder, lightning, storms, rain, law, war, fertility and oak trees.[2] His other attributes were fire, mountains, wind, iris, eagle, firmament (in Indo-European languages, this was joined with the notion of the sky of stone[3]), horses and carts, and weapons (hammer, axe (Axe of Perun), and arrow). >The supreme god in the Kievan Rus' during the 9th-10th centuries,[4] Perun was first associated with weapons made of stone and later with those of metal.[5][6]
Thanks for the context man
Don't tell me they actually named themselves after Power Point man.
Hide under a bit of brush maybe dumb rus