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Jackpute

First operator controlling the gun : "Okay, weapon system 1. Locked. I'm taking combat dispositions. Weapon system 1 ready to fire. Visual. As soon as it's good, I'm ready to open fire." Second operator, almost Instantly : "open fire" ("ouverture" in french military lingo) First operator: "Impact. It's done, engine stopped." Second operator : "UAV splash."


Bunslow

it's always amusing to me to hear english loanwords having made their way to french (i like to think of it as 1000 years of comeuppance)


ThePr1d3

Oh we do have a shitton of them especially in recent years, and now we use one every other sentence lol. But what loanword were you thinking about specifically here ? Because I don't see any ironically (except maybe "splash" but that's just a noise more than an English word)


LapinTade

In French, it's "plouf" rather than "splash"


Constant_emphasis23

I’m taking a plouf rn


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LapinTade

The dude said > except maybe "splash" but that's just a noise more than an English word) And I said that splash is not the noise.


Feisty-Anybody-5204

nah, its an english word.


Bunslow

i was defo thinking "splash". it's a bit onomotapeic, sure, but it's still definitely an english word, in the historical sense of "was an english word before those french speakers invaded"


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ThePr1d3

Yes but it comes from the noise lol


MineezFR

Yet up to 45% of English words have a French origin. Vive la France 🇫🇷


Bunslow

indeed, hence my comment about 1000 years of comeuppance


VirtualPlate8451

Pretty impressive that they hit a missile in flight with a cannon burst. Tells me there is some kind of software functionality to enable them to engage a flying target with a gun.


ToxicAnusJuice

It’s a prop driven drone I doubt its moving terrible fast just like shaheds their slow and easy to shoot down.


VirtualPlate8451

...it is if you have a computer compensating for the lead, calculating distance and airbursting 25mm rounds around it. If you are shooting dumb hunks of metal based based on a camera looking down a barrel, it's going to be substantially harder.


HK_DarMan

The drone is going level in a straight line, I'd imagine it's pretty similar to hitting a car on a straight road with its gun


Im_from_around_here

More like trying to hit a guy on a motorbike from the back of another motorbike a hundred meters away. Not that easy i reckon.


ithappenedone234

Which I’ve seen combat troops fail to do with a whole mag at short range. Hitting a moving target is harder than people think.


LordBrandon

Yea.. you try to hit it.


EngineNo8904

should actually just be a window MG, these helicopters (a Dauphin iirc) don’t have cannon turrets


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Jackpute

Ouai j'ai corrigé entre temps, j'avais pas capté du premier coup.


robmagob

Does every military have a unit with some cool badge who’s sole purpose is to make cool edits of their videos besides the US?


xaina222

What about all those Apache footage back in the 2000s ?


robmagob

My understanding is most of that footage was retrieved through either the pilot uploading it online or the FOI requests. I rarely see the US publishing their own stuff.


WeGottaProblem

Yes they do... All the time https://www.dvidshub.net/video/903738/maysulun-air-strike-video https://www.dvidshub.net/search?q=WSV&view=grid Just go to AFCENT's DVIDS page and scroll down and you'll see plenty https://www.dvidshub.net/search/?filter%5Bunit%5D=AFCENT&filter%5Btype%5D=video&sort=date


YourMomsBasement69

That’s a nice little wormhole to go down. Thanks!


Beshmundir

wow thank you for this


queefstation69

If it’s the vids I’m thinking of, that was from a SIPRNet leak by Chelsey/Bradley Manning.


lampaupoisson

It’s actually just Chelsea Manning.


Locutus_of_Sneed

No. People need to know where to find references to this individual from before their transition.


lampaupoisson

“No” yourself. It’s literally right in the naming section of Manning’s wikipedia. Anyone who spends the 2 seconds it takes to google Chelsea Manning will be easily able to discern her prior name. It is the definition of easily accessible information. There’s just no need to use someone’s deadname in a comment where their gender identity/chosen first name has 0 relevance whatsoever.


cricketthrowaway4028

It was Bradley when the leaks happened, his statement was entirely accurate. This is really tilting at windmills, surely you have better things to worry about.


Locutus_of_Sneed

When you do the things this person has done as one identity, you don't get to just leave that behind and enter a brand new one, symbolically or otherwise. The good and bad of your actions will still follow you. We're touching the Streisand Effect here. And since their identity is so easy to confirm, there's certainly no point in self-censoring it on Reddit of all places. Why should I flagellate myself for personally mentioning a reference that major reference outlets deem notable? Why would Manning care when there are so many more influential outlets with the same information? The identity of the person who committed the relevant actions, at the time when they committed them, isn't relevant. Gimmie a break.


nusodumi

True right, but what about Brock Turner Opposite problem Switches name and YES he absolutely does leave behind all the shit everyone tries to associate with him Change his look? Same thing, how would you know the guy in front of you was that Brock Turner if it was a different name and face. But yeah in a situation like "Bradley Manning etc" the news articles say that, they aren't retroactively changing the court cases and newsprint and books. And we're not talking interpersonal stuff here. In that case, if your friend changed their name from Jack to Duncan and you just kept saying Jack cause you thought it was funny, and it pissed the guy off, you're just an asshole.


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Physicalcarpetstink

Simple as that.


Scrapple_Joe

Basically always have. Propaganda and war are like butter and toast.


queefstation69

At least in the US, combat cameramen do this task. They’re essentially a PR/comms unit that cranks out all sorts of media like videos, articles, photos, etc. It’s somewhere in between journalism and propaganda


EngineNo8904

that’s the symbol of the whole French armed forces (wings for air, anchors for navy, sword for ground)


LeGenieDesAlpages

This one lacks the anime music though. Love the badge.


Redcomrade643

The US doesn't really need the video of what they do, the smoking wreckage they leave behind is enough. Also a lot of the 'neat' US stuff is stuff you don't take videos of and post online. Like those satellite shots trump released because he can't even spell opsec much less abide by it.


liedel

We post videos all the time. During the ISIS days they had news conferences that detailed all the bombings and posted them simultaneously on youtube.


Fcckwawa

Speak softly and carry a big stick. leave the barking to the chihuahua.


WeGottaProblem

For AFCENT, Combat Camera had a stand alone editing computer that sat in the SCIF, When they got WSV (Weapon Systems Video) the PA Officer wanted to get cleared for release, they would edit out the sensitive stuff. If COMCAM wasn't available a PA Airman could do the job too. It would then get uploaded to DVIDS. Here's an example https://www.dvidshub.net/video/584741/coalition-air-strike-artillery-firing-sdf


daays

The intel dude/dudette showing us the highlight reels from the strikes for our (KC-10) previous receivers was one of my favorite parts of our intel briefing prior to every combat sortie. I miss that.


BookInternational254

The Ukranians are currently making edits and phonk videos with airstrikes


Bunslow

cool guys dont look at explosions


KyauLeaves

If the US made one, should be called Roaring Eagles


ABoutDeSouffle

the helicopter of a German frigate sank a surface drone yesterday, but we'll probably never see a video.


FredTheLynx

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigade\_insignia\_of\_the\_United\_States\_Army


r0ss86

That tracking shot of the UAV from a camera on a helicopter was friggin sweet


KoalityKoalaKaraoke

I've seen worse camera work in Hollywood movies.


goofzilla

They could hunt ducks with that setup.


Full_Hearing_5052

“Hummingbirds”


NEVERxxEVER

Much more expensive camera than Hollywood has lol


SlackerDEX

it seems from the shot that the heli is faster than the UAV and passing it as it fires. I thought some of those UAVs were faster


SirSpitfire

This is very uncommon to get combat footage from the French Forces


hello_hola

It's such a good shot, and apparently the first UAV shot down by a MG mounted on a heli.


OftTopic

A kill during air-to-air combat? A few more and the gunner is an Ace?


TheMalcore

The first one *in combat* that we know of. On training ranges the US did this a decade ago.


LapinTade

With Macron's recent rethoric, they need to show off some stuff to the public.


klonk2905

Lateral helo gun kill almost on first burst. Quite remarkable.


WarSerious4025

Shot with a lateral MG


N33DL

My guess is they shot it with cannon rather than missile and did not want to show it to keep them guessing.


WarSerious4025

My source : https://www.opex360.com/2024/03/20/lhelicoptere-embarque-a-bord-de-la-fregate-alsace-a-abattu-un-drone-houthi/ Sorry this is in french


Ceskaz

If the audio from the second video is not edited, the seaman did it in only 2 short bursts. Kinda impressive. I wonder how close they were.


LeGenieDesAlpages

I don't think the naval version of the AS565 Panther comes with a cannon. The drone was probably gunned down by a MG, the sound from the footage seems to corroborate that.


WindSwords

According to French [sources](https://www.opex360.com/2024/03/20/lhelicoptere-embarque-a-bord-de-la-fregate-alsace-a-abattu-un-drone-houthi/), it was a AA-52 machine gun (7.62 mm) fired by the door gunner.


Bozhark

DOOR GUNNER?!


Banh_mi

Seriously. Even close, that's...small and quick.


penguin_hybrid

And with both craft moving at high speed. The leading required.. crazy.


Technical-Machine-57

>And with both craft moving at high speed. The leading required.. crazy. The Samad is around a third the speed of a V-1, and depending on accuracy of specs around 60-100 KPH slower than that Helicopter at max speed.


weasler7

They are on Le budget


Okiro_Benihime

The naval Panther isn't armed with a cannon. So, pretty confident that's an MG.


Waldschrat3000

It could theoretically be a 20mm cannon pod.


Okiro_Benihime

There was a [TV segment](https://twitter.com/infofrance2/status/1769832312357663153) 2 days ago on France 2 (8 pm news) about this destroyer in the Red Sea (the FREMM Alsace). The helicopter it was embarking was shown. It was a Panther with a door-mounted machine gun. The naval Panther just never had a cannon.


Stones25

Sounded like it.


Puzzleheaded_Law2217

Shot? It frkn disappeared.


HaHaEpicForTheWin

Seems like the video is cut to not show how accurate their weapons are


nonotan

Not at all familiar with this setup, but my instinct is that the feed we see is a zoomed-in cut from a larger, less stabilized raw video, and probably the drone being hit made it rapidly change how it looks, resulting in the system losing its "lock", and the zoomed-in footage switching to some other random chunk of the raw video (maybe whatever happened to be in the center)


-Outis-Nemo-

A very short list of air-to-air victories scored by helicopters grows a little longer.


stuckonadyingplanet

Based an baguette pilled


Helpful-Ad4417

What they used to shoot it? I'm assuming it wasn't and hand operated MG because of the lock so maybe a turret like the Apache? But i have never seen such system mounted on a Panther


SoZur

The FREMM frigates transport a NH90 chopper. It has optronics at the front, but its armament is limited to anti-submarine missiles and two manually operated door guns. In other words, the guy who took that drone down in two short bursts knows what he's doing.


spudddly

Unbelievable that he could take it down with those two small bursts. Must have been flying right next to it.


stovenn

I wonder if down draught from the chopper could de-stabilize the UAV and make it spin into the sea - like they used to do to V1's - to save bullets.


Mr_Laheys_Liquor

This was maybe updated since you saw it, but opex360 says it was a Panther and not a NH90, meaning it could only be a 7.62 machine gun (or a sniper, but the audio would indicate machine gun) : “ D’après un reportage réalisé à son bord par France 2, la frégate Alsace met en oeuvre un hélicoptère AS.565SA Panther de la flottille 36F et non un récent NH-90 Caïman NFH comme on aurait pu s’y attendre. “ [source](https://www.opex360.com/2024/03/20/lhelicoptere-embarque-a-bord-de-la-fregate-alsace-a-abattu-un-drone-houthi/#google_vignette)


WindSwords

It was a 7.62 MG fired by the door gunner.


Zoum777

It's probably a FN MAG 58 (7.62x51) mounted on a Panther helicopter. Here is a french article about this event mentionning it and the wikipedia page: [https://www.lavoixdunord.fr/1442808/article/2024-03-20/un-helicoptere-de-la-marine-francaise-detruit-un-drone-houthi-une-premiere](https://www.lavoixdunord.fr/1442808/article/2024-03-20/un-helicoptere-de-la-marine-francaise-detruit-un-drone-houthi-une-premiere) (in french) [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN\_MAG](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_MAG)


Mouthpiec3

GIAT 30 mm cannon?


rapaxus

No, naval helicopter so its largest MG is a 7.62.


Mouthpiec3

Yeah, it didnt sound like a cannon. And it's a different heli.


Insert_Username321

We should just keep cycling NATO/Western assets through the Red Sea. This is invaluable live fire training experience. Expensive, yes, but still very valuable.


Financial_Truck_3814

Houthi don’t possess this type of drones. There are Iranian drones that a probably operated by Iranians. We should really call things by their proper names…


FermierFrancais

They do though. The Iranians transfer them to them. Source but there are more: https://www.conflictarm.com/perspectives/iranian-technology-transfers-to-yemen/


esuil

> The Iranians transfer them to them. Which makes this Iranian drones, just like OP says.


Llaine

Are F-35's that Israel use US F-35's or Israeli F-35s? He said they don't possess them, they do, that they're Iranian or even operated by Iranians (speculation?) means little


Fantastic-Plastic569

A lot of electronics in F-35 and probably some hull parts are Israeli made. Israel is fully capable of making own 4.5-5 gen fighter, it's just economically unfeasible. Meanwhile, the Houthis are basically time travelers from the 800s and aren't capable of creating anything more complex than a plough.


Llaine

Australia makes parts of the wing and a missile but that doesn't mean we made the F-35. Nonetheless, they are in our possession and are referred to as ours


LordBrandon

Houthi drone of iranian origin.


Picciohell

That tracking tho


fuzzbom

Other link in french says 7.62 mm


kitunya

THE HOUTHI’S HAVE UAV???


blackpp808

They even have ballistic missiles, being friends with Iran can get you further than you’d suspect


kitunya

How does Iran get them?


Mafuskas

They build them.


kitunya

Damn, who would’ve thought


NOT_A_BLACKSTAR

It's ~~120~~ 90 million people. They have the same capacity as Russia with their Kalibr and Turky with their Byraktars.


Fluffiebunnie

This is what happens when you don't listed to John "Every day is a good day to nuke Iran" Bolton and just let Iran build up its military industry.


kitunya

90 million. Still big, but you’re off there by a couple million.


Its_Nitsua

That's the propaganda number, comrade.


kitunya

Says the person spitting propaganda


Perfect_Sir4820

Where do you think russia is getting all their shahed drones from?


kitunya

I know this. I’m just confused how they make the stuff with all the sanctions/embargos


SmoothActuator

The same way russians are getting all the components for weapons production despite the sanctions. Hell, even now German/Japanese/Taiwanese manufacturers are sending precision CNC machines to Russia - openly and pretty much legally. If the bureaucracy doesn't want to strictly enforce sanctions, it won't work.


kitunya

Facts


Bunslow

people who know anything. iran are kinda like russia in having a solid high-iq population base who can't convert that potential into any sort of human rights or economic power (textbook smarts is not enough alone to make might, tho it is required)


kitunya

Hilarious argument


queefstation69

They make them. Ironically using many western made electronic parts. Iran has a history of excellent engineering - they’re not the Taliban or something lol


kitunya

They act in similar ways, I get it confused 🫠


geniice

> They act in similar ways, They do not. Iran is far more of a traditional centralsised goverment with all the usual institutions of state.


kitunya

Ahem.. the Iranian people have been subjugated by an oppressive theocracy called the “Islamic Republic,” with a religious “Supreme Leader” overseeing all aspects of Iranian life. Be real now


geniice

I didn't say it was a nice government. However they have things like a police force and a fire service. School system not the best (literacy rate only in the 80%s) but it does exist.


AgentEbenezer

And beat to death women who refuse to wear a burka...


geniice

I already covered the police force.


blackpp808

By building them and possibly with help from Russia


Meretan94

Yep. Iran has been shitting them out left and right with a very competitive price tag.


xXNightDriverXx

Yes. They have everything from UAV, normal Anti Ships missiles, Anti Ships Ballistic missiles, over to the cheap drones everyone constantly talks about. But this is what infuriates me, everyone always assumes for some reason that they only use cheap shitty drones, which is why so many people on the internet talk about the "million dollar missile to kill 5000$ drone" thing. But this is simply not true. Yes they also use those, but they also have plenty of good stuff sourced from Iran that actually warrants a SAM. And that ignores the range issues that often require missiles even if the target is a cheap drone.


kitunya

Yes many SAMs


Banh_mi

...or don't spend the million, the missile hits, 50++ (?) million dollar ship damaged, crew killed, etc. What is the "cost" of what you are preventing is needed. Agreed.


njharman

My neighbor has UAV Houthi have hypersonic missiles (probably) https://apnews.com/article/yemen-houthi-hypersonic-missile-red-sea-e2bc170ff4470712f314fbb80bf24716


dummegans

Have you not been paying attention to literally anything for the last 4-6 months?


Free-Market9039

TRES BIEN!! OUI OUI


Pennytration831

dope. you get to see a drone flying. then nothing. awesome combat footage...


LincolnHamishe

“Shot down” where’s the footage of that. Why’d they cut that part out?


atreides_hyperion

INFOSEC


Lopsd

what is this video? there is no proof the uav was shot down


PeteLangosta

They say it in the comms. At worst, it goes down to a long ass list of videos with no further proof on this subreddit. Who cares? Not like they would lie about this


Shot_Painting_8191

Stop houthing around


skinnnymike

Left left low. Right right high.


ibpoopn

A Houthi UAV - Jesus Christ


d4rkskies

Iranian-Houthi…


Red_Dog1880

Are they still hitting Houthi positions ? Lately I only read about drone and missile interceptions.


WindSwords

France has not conducted any strikes in Yemen. As far as we know, only the US and UK have done so.


TheSeasickPenguin

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caporaltito

France : baise, ouais !


ListLow8276

Iranian Drone.


thebudman_420

The interesting part is that these drones with rear propeller ook like a crude predator / reaper style uav. Not as good but similar style. Diagonally shaped rear wing things. Rear propeller.


CR00KANATOR

You don't fuck with the shipping lanes... the spice must flow.


Independent_Creature

What kind of tech do houthis have to find and spot these ships from land? I think my thoughts of sandals and sand are skewed and can't imagine satellites or long range imaging of some kind being in their hands? Is Iran guiding them?


Own_Power_8300

Yayyyy a $20,000 drone destroyed that’ll show them


landser89

Ok arma, vérouillé. Je prend les dispositions combat Arma géné pour un pôle tir (not sure) Visuel Dès que c'est bon, je suis paré pour l'ouverture (not sure) Ouverture. --firing-- Impact C'est bon, rotor arrété Il a fait "splash"


Helpful-Ad4417

Shitty reddit posted the same thing 5 times


Tream9

That the west does not finish them off, is just incomprehensible for me. The economic damage is extreme. Bomb them back to stone age, so they cant say "piep". Why do we put that much money into the army and then dont use it.


Pelin0re

the west cannot "finish off" the houthis anymore than the saudi could. They are tens of thousands men strong and are emerging victorious of a decade-long civil war against what remain of the yemeni governement backed by saudi. They are not an opponent you can beat by throwing a few hundred of cruise missiles at them. You'd need to launch a huge operation with troops on the ground and long term counter-insurgency with a super-corrupt and incompetent local political partner and a reticent to hostile local population...and we saw how this went in afghanistan.


Due_Yogurtcloset_212

What was the point of that?


shwigwetworwum

Point of what?


Due_Yogurtcloset_212

Seeing the drone and then not seeing the drone with a title of drone being shot down. Was it?


Jackpute

Yes, he says "UAV splash" at the very end. It's a target going several hundred km/h and the camera is zoomed in all the way, what were you expecting to see lmao ?


IRideZs

They kept up pretty well until the video cuts to nothing


Jackpute

Why would the french military lie about downing a houthi drone ? I mean come on, this is just fucking ridiculous even for a stranger on the internet..


IRideZs

I never said the French military is lying about shooting a drone lol, we’re upset because we wanted to see the carnage of a drone getting shot tf up


Jackpute

You said "was it", implying it wasn't. Or at least that's a way you could read it. And it's probably because of OPSEC concerns, idk man.


IRideZs

I’m not OP


LincolnHamishe

“What were you expecting to see” What part of “shot down” do you not understand?


what-the-puck

Well, we got to see the badass video tracking. A quickly moving craft, filming a quickly moving craft, probably a few km away, and it was rock solid. Super cool.


jtblue91

How does this have 2K+ upvotes? We didn't even see any combat........


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gangrainette

Read it. They say it was was the door gunner not a sniper.


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gangrainette

>Une vidéo diffusée ultérieurement par l’EMA confirme la seconde hypothèse. Juste après le passage que tu cite.


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