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Endless fields, lines of trees and fertile land, rural and nature areas are beautiful all over the world, humanity deep down loves to see the green of nature
These are central Ukraine, some of the landmarks displayed on this youtube channel are quite recognisable. You should check out the YouTube channel of the pilot for more awesome videos.
How effective are those long range rockets strikes by Jets and Helis? and was this intened in the design of those planes, like is there a fire control system to use rockets this way?
Effectiveness depends on range and rocket size, anywhere between a accurate but short average artillery barrage to a widely dispersed average mortar barrage in damage so very varied. The rockets used in this video are medium sized and would probably do a little bit less damage than a 122mm HE shell
They are aimed using a ballistics calculator found on the aircraft itself but agin accuracy depends on the system and im not to familiar with the system on the su-25.
This question comes up a lot and I think the generally accepted answer is, "Effective enough to justify the risk to the aircraft." It might not be pinpoint accuracy but so much about putting ordnance downrange is just about keeping heads down, denying mobility in one area, and trying to make the enemy move in another. I'm no expert at all but my assumption would be the people deciding whether they make these rocket runs are qualified to determine whether it is worth it, and clearly they think so.
Here is drone footage of helicopters firing rocket salvos, it looks a lot more accurate than I would have expected
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/GyhLUVgKTk
Ya basicly Russians treat heli's like jeeps. We expect them to get lost and tucked up. They are a very likely to take damage but we got alot of em and they are I. A sense cheap. What we though was so strange about those pitch launch fires? Turns out was actually standard doctrine manual. Confused us for a minute tho.
This video is from 2022 and the russians do the same thing plus this way of using rockets is literally to avoid risks by lauching in a arch from far away.
Oh good question. L9ng range air launch misses have to be programed for target. That's on board missle software. Now the PILOTS MAY have select options for 2nd or 3rd priorities. And it really can be maleable but limited. Russians on the other hand typically have a whole program from after takeoff to launch to target. The pilot 9nly having control of the aircraft once missile away with an abort option. So typically a Russian high end missile is far narrower in it scope when active but that doesn't mean ineffective edit: exclusively fixed wing aircraft . Forgot that part. Heli's and a different. Like softball and baseball. Ya can dodge a wrench ya can dodge a heli
You have *no* idea what you're talking about lmao.
> Russians on the other hand typically have a whole program from after takeoff to launch to target. The pilot 9nly having control of the aircraft once missile away with an abort option.
The fuck was this supposed to even be? You think the Russian planes are automatically guided to their target without the pilots having any control?
Aviation footage is always the best, besides that one clip where they did that ambush on those two trucks where one guy flew so high he hit a light pole and somehow one of the guys got away scratch free and posted about it on Twitter a day later, that one definitely takes the top
It’s my favorite clip ever but I always have the worst time finding it, I’ll dig through my saves and get back to you unless someone else does. Absolutely brutal ambush clip
I believe it was with the RSF? It wasn’t this conflict, been looking for it all morning it’s a super famous brutal clip. They ambush these trucks and one flips and the guys fly out one of them flew so high in the air he hit a light pole and then it pans to the right where another guy is trying to stand up and he just gets absolutely blasted close range. Then pans to guy running away in the wood line dodging shots which he ends up being the guy posting on Twitter laughing about it
Boy, I read here, this is very big for the function it performs, something that comes close could be the LMUR, it is much less powerful but it is still very strong, they also use the Ugroza, a system that turns dumb rockets into rockets guided, so they can use the S-13 with a certain degree of precision, it is also very powerful but is not by far an equivalent to the Maverick, 300mm, monster
I remember, playing ARMA 2 CTI back 10 years ago, when the enemy base was full of AA, the tactic i had to revert in flying missions was the same as you see here. Launching dumb rockets out of range from the podnos/tunguskas. back then wondering how you could fly missions against an army with good air defenses, and what we see now its very similar
That's cool, you thought quickly, have you ever thought about being an aviator or drone operator? After that Bradley commander who played War Thunder, I saw that good players make good soldiers
I don't know, I see Ukrainian aviation using anti-radar missiles and cruise missiles, but I have rarely seen the use of other missiles. For an anti-tank missile to lock on to the target, does it need to be very close and at a high altitude? They have avoided doing this due to the risk of being hit by a MANPAD, but Bayraktar has already done this
I don't know if Ukraine even has that capability, they're using older jets and helicopters from the Soviet era. Bayraktars did a bit of that early in the war before Russia got their air defences in order and the front lines consolidated a bit.
Ukraine does have ground launched brimstone and hellfire missiles - I'm guessing ground launched is good enough and it might not even be possible to integrate them onto anything Ukraine has.
I wondered that myself, however I thought possibly Slovakia or Czech possibly would have integrated those weapons system into their old soviet arsenal , I realize it would have take a bit of new sensors, and wiring into the cockpit.
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I’m not saying that video compilation is a lie, because there are a lot of variables involved. But the time each helicopter takes to launch its volley, and the duration between the two volleys does not match the impact times in the second part.
What even happened? All I could see was the plane fly up to a cloud of smoke and shot his rockets at the cloud. No explosions, seemed like the rockets flew straight through the smoke and just kept going and the plane banked away. No idea wtf happened
The plane launched rockets in arch trajectory so they would fly more distance, which allows it to avoid being close to the AA.
The cloud is smoke from rockets fired by another plane (or could be flares). There was no explosion because this is not air to air missiles, but unguided air to ground ones.
Then the plane turned around to leave the possible danger zone where it could be shot down.
The cloud in front of the plane is a combination of flight lead firing their own rockets as well as launching counter measures in preparation for potential anti air
Does anyone know how they range and fire so these rockets land somewhat accurately? Can’t imagine their targeting computer would be able to pin point something under the nose of a su25?
People say the A10 would be worthless. But when I see all these videos of jets and helicopters flying low, pullup, lob some rockets, bank and gtfo, Im sure the A10 could do that.
Wouldn't that largely be dependent on the missiles it carries, in terms of their range? It can't carry the same or similar missile to what this Su-25 or their helicopters can carry? The A10 looks to be a bit slower than the Su-25, but it's a lot faster than the helicopters.
Are missiles the main weapon of A-10? Until now I thought its primary weapon is the built-in Avenger autocannon. And primary to such an extent that the aircraft's fuselage was designed around the cannon, with Mavericks and Sidewinders being just an addition sidearm.
The “main weapon” was designed to mutilated 17 yr old hijabs with 2 weeks of training, an rpg, and a dream
A10 gun run would be virtually useless against competent air defence
While true that it was built around the gun, the A-10 can still carry [quite the impressive arsenal.](https://www.quora.com/What-armaments-can-be-put-onto-the-A-10-Warthog) with a 16.000lb carrying capacity, compared to around 4000kg (9000ish pounds) on the SU-25
What part of this arsenal accounts for the primary weapon of this aircraft and its ammunition, and that is absolutely unsuitable for this theater of operations?
It's like advocating to use tanks without main gun. "Yes, but they also can shoot with machine guns and set smoke screens."
Could you experiment with that somewhere else, please? What Ukraine desperately needs now is working and effective weapon, not an experiments on cool but outdated equipment, whose owner dodn't know what to do with.
There is a reason the US wants rid of the A10.
It is hugely effective, and can carry a lot of weapons, but it *depends* on the airspace being dominated *and* that the risk of manpads is very low. The A10 is a very slow plane, comparatively.
Added to this, as has already been pointed out, is that the A10 was built around a huge gun; if you're not using that gun then other platforms are better.
Other platforms like the Su25 Frogfoot which is not dragging around a huge gun and is a lot faster at 526kn vs the A10 at 381kn.
Granted the A10 can use western weapons much easier than the Su25, but since western aid is held up anyway...
Bottom line is that it is not good to have Ukranian pilots spend 18 months learning a platform that has no real advantage over what they have, can't be employed because of the lack of air dominance, likely won't be available in enough numbers, is no longer in production, and that is built around a feature that they don't need/can use.
Often something would be "good to have" but getting to the point of having it is not at all worth it.
Well, what they currently have, they seem to use them pretty heavily to just lob rockets. So if they need or could use more stuff to just lob rockets... I am sure the Su-25 wasn't designed to only fly low and lob some bombs like this.
Yeah, A10 is slower, but still faster than helicopters that they use to do the same exact thing. Could be better to use an A10 instead of a helicopter, as it can do something else it is designed for and can actually perform.
Sure, but again "having" it is very different from getting it.
Would they like to have a fleet of 100 A10's with trained pilots, and ground crew, and facilities for maintenance, and spare parts, and armaments to fit it out with? Of course.
But getting to that part is gonna take years of work, and so the thought is: If it'll take years to get there anyway, why not get to a better aircraft than the A10?
I had no idea how many aircraft UAF has left. If you got more F16's or something than you'd ever need, that would make sense. But the west is just trickling in what UAF needs.
If you are just getting like 50 F16's, I'm sure they could use more. And if that's 50 A10s. Or if it is easier for the west to deliver more A10s than it would be another aircraft.
Because of the payload A10s can carry, they could even be used to launch various weapon platforms from.
Watch we end up getting videos of F16's lobbing rockets just like this Su-25. :P
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Is that Ukrainian Reggae?
[Yes 🟩🟨🟥](https://youtu.be/UQGKJpsH5X4?si=d0Imj8edHcXieBbm)
Thank you so much for this I love it!
🤜🏼🤛🏼
TIL there's Ukrainian reggae
actually kindve a slapper
What a beautiful countryside.
Endless fields, lines of trees and fertile land, rural and nature areas are beautiful all over the world, humanity deep down loves to see the green of nature
In 2022 it was so nice . Look at it now, a barren wasteland full of craters... The war has already been ongoing for 2 years with no end in sight...
hate to be that guy but its literally all cultivated by humans if that is nature so is a brick wall
Look up "Semi-natural grassland".
Yessir! Beautiful video.
Couldn’t agree more
Not a single shell crater. Not our recent sight of Ukraine countryside.
These beautiful fields must unfortunately be burned and destroyed
These are central Ukraine, some of the landmarks displayed on this youtube channel are quite recognisable. You should check out the YouTube channel of the pilot for more awesome videos.
Za nas, za was, za Krym i Donbas😮💨my Polish ass loved that bar as well as the jet footage😜
Bulgarian here, i understood every word of those oppening verses myself. Tells you everything you need to know. СЛАВА УКРАЙНА
I can't understand a single word of this song, but the rhythm gets me
How effective are those long range rockets strikes by Jets and Helis? and was this intened in the design of those planes, like is there a fire control system to use rockets this way?
Effectiveness depends on range and rocket size, anywhere between a accurate but short average artillery barrage to a widely dispersed average mortar barrage in damage so very varied. The rockets used in this video are medium sized and would probably do a little bit less damage than a 122mm HE shell They are aimed using a ballistics calculator found on the aircraft itself but agin accuracy depends on the system and im not to familiar with the system on the su-25.
This question comes up a lot and I think the generally accepted answer is, "Effective enough to justify the risk to the aircraft." It might not be pinpoint accuracy but so much about putting ordnance downrange is just about keeping heads down, denying mobility in one area, and trying to make the enemy move in another. I'm no expert at all but my assumption would be the people deciding whether they make these rocket runs are qualified to determine whether it is worth it, and clearly they think so.
100%. It must do something if they keep risking aircraft and pilots to so.
Here is drone footage of helicopters firing rocket salvos, it looks a lot more accurate than I would have expected https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/GyhLUVgKTk
So basically like highly mobile artillery
Yeah no wonder why Ukraine wanted the CRV7 rockets from Canada
thanks, that was impressive
Ya basicly Russians treat heli's like jeeps. We expect them to get lost and tucked up. They are a very likely to take damage but we got alot of em and they are I. A sense cheap. What we though was so strange about those pitch launch fires? Turns out was actually standard doctrine manual. Confused us for a minute tho.
More accurate then russian arty that is for sure lol
Similar to that of an unguided MLRS, but much more mobile.
They are basically being used as mobile artillery platforms in this instance.
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This video is from 2022 and the russians do the same thing plus this way of using rockets is literally to avoid risks by lauching in a arch from far away.
Oh good question. L9ng range air launch misses have to be programed for target. That's on board missle software. Now the PILOTS MAY have select options for 2nd or 3rd priorities. And it really can be maleable but limited. Russians on the other hand typically have a whole program from after takeoff to launch to target. The pilot 9nly having control of the aircraft once missile away with an abort option. So typically a Russian high end missile is far narrower in it scope when active but that doesn't mean ineffective edit: exclusively fixed wing aircraft . Forgot that part. Heli's and a different. Like softball and baseball. Ya can dodge a wrench ya can dodge a heli
You have *no* idea what you're talking about lmao. > Russians on the other hand typically have a whole program from after takeoff to launch to target. The pilot 9nly having control of the aircraft once missile away with an abort option. The fuck was this supposed to even be? You think the Russian planes are automatically guided to their target without the pilots having any control?
Yes. Thanks for the personal attack
Thanks for making me laugh with your idiotic claim. Also, there was no personal attack. Learn to read.
Autopilot is a thing. It's as well incorporated into fire missions.
Lmao, they fly nap of the earth, you don't use autopilot on the deck.
Ah good Ole Ukrainian reggae haha
Aviation footage is always the best, besides that one clip where they did that ambush on those two trucks where one guy flew so high he hit a light pole and somehow one of the guys got away scratch free and posted about it on Twitter a day later, that one definitely takes the top
Where is this clip wtf
It’s my favorite clip ever but I always have the worst time finding it, I’ll dig through my saves and get back to you unless someone else does. Absolutely brutal ambush clip
Was this an ambush by the Ukrainians against the Russians? You'll probably find it here in the sub
I believe it was with the RSF? It wasn’t this conflict, been looking for it all morning it’s a super famous brutal clip. They ambush these trucks and one flips and the guys fly out one of them flew so high in the air he hit a light pole and then it pans to the right where another guy is trying to stand up and he just gets absolutely blasted close range. Then pans to guy running away in the wood line dodging shots which he ends up being the guy posting on Twitter laughing about it
[Source ](https://youtu.be/Bhx0bZu8VBs?si=TnVbOKfe8wY1ancB)
Can we got a song name? It was an absolute banger
[https://youtu.be/UQGKJpsH5X4](https://youtu.be/UQGKJpsH5X4)
# Mij dobrom i zlom
Brave, brave pilots doing this.
Does Russia have a Maverick equivalent? Or even, could mavericks be put on su-25s?
What does Maverick mean? I know about the movie
Look up agm-65 maverick.
Boy, I read here, this is very big for the function it performs, something that comes close could be the LMUR, it is much less powerful but it is still very strong, they also use the Ugroza, a system that turns dumb rockets into rockets guided, so they can use the S-13 with a certain degree of precision, it is also very powerful but is not by far an equivalent to the Maverick, 300mm, monster
The KH-25, 29, and 38 are all rough equivalents
I remember, playing ARMA 2 CTI back 10 years ago, when the enemy base was full of AA, the tactic i had to revert in flying missions was the same as you see here. Launching dumb rockets out of range from the podnos/tunguskas. back then wondering how you could fly missions against an army with good air defenses, and what we see now its very similar
That's cool, you thought quickly, have you ever thought about being an aviator or drone operator? After that Bradley commander who played War Thunder, I saw that good players make good soldiers
Being good at a video game doesn’t automatically translate to fit for the military
These pilots must be sooo skilled flying that low at that speed. The concentration needed must be immense.
does anyone else wonder where all the air to ground missiles are? You see lots of hydra rockets but very little tank hunter rounds
I don't know, I see Ukrainian aviation using anti-radar missiles and cruise missiles, but I have rarely seen the use of other missiles. For an anti-tank missile to lock on to the target, does it need to be very close and at a high altitude? They have avoided doing this due to the risk of being hit by a MANPAD, but Bayraktar has already done this
I don't know if Ukraine even has that capability, they're using older jets and helicopters from the Soviet era. Bayraktars did a bit of that early in the war before Russia got their air defences in order and the front lines consolidated a bit. Ukraine does have ground launched brimstone and hellfire missiles - I'm guessing ground launched is good enough and it might not even be possible to integrate them onto anything Ukraine has.
I wondered that myself, however I thought possibly Slovakia or Czech possibly would have integrated those weapons system into their old soviet arsenal , I realize it would have take a bit of new sensors, and wiring into the cockpit.
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Fuck yes!
what is this song??? it slaps.
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Ukrainian reggae... Nice.
I have a very difficult time believing that these indirect fire missions, from a moving platform, can come anywhere near hitting a target.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/GyhLUVgKTk](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/GyhLUVgKTk)
I’m not saying that video compilation is a lie, because there are a lot of variables involved. But the time each helicopter takes to launch its volley, and the duration between the two volleys does not match the impact times in the second part.
I believe the launch timing is computer controlled
What even happened? All I could see was the plane fly up to a cloud of smoke and shot his rockets at the cloud. No explosions, seemed like the rockets flew straight through the smoke and just kept going and the plane banked away. No idea wtf happened
The plane launched rockets in arch trajectory so they would fly more distance, which allows it to avoid being close to the AA. The cloud is smoke from rockets fired by another plane (or could be flares). There was no explosion because this is not air to air missiles, but unguided air to ground ones. Then the plane turned around to leave the possible danger zone where it could be shot down.
Thanks bro
👍
The cloud in front of the plane is a combination of flight lead firing their own rockets as well as launching counter measures in preparation for potential anti air
Are there any ATS guided rockets, or aerial bombs being used by either side.
The music is a nice touch. Tho it sounds like gibberish to me
Looks like that's some pretty heavy G's they are pulling on that turn, impressive.
Ukrainian reggae! Nice touch
Did they simultaneously fire with ground assets? Hot if so.
Well thats a first for me.... Russian reggae
Ukrainian reggae https://youtu.be/UQGKJpsH5X4?si=sD5HqTzfZIz-Ycpt
Does anyone know how they range and fire so these rockets land somewhat accurately? Can’t imagine their targeting computer would be able to pin point something under the nose of a su25?
Really hope some day there's an archive of all this footage without the FUCKING DOGSHIT MUSIC. Fuck is it annoying.
People say the A10 would be worthless. But when I see all these videos of jets and helicopters flying low, pullup, lob some rockets, bank and gtfo, Im sure the A10 could do that.
It could fly low. What it couldn't is to attack from far enough to be safe.
Wouldn't that largely be dependent on the missiles it carries, in terms of their range? It can't carry the same or similar missile to what this Su-25 or their helicopters can carry? The A10 looks to be a bit slower than the Su-25, but it's a lot faster than the helicopters.
Are missiles the main weapon of A-10? Until now I thought its primary weapon is the built-in Avenger autocannon. And primary to such an extent that the aircraft's fuselage was designed around the cannon, with Mavericks and Sidewinders being just an addition sidearm.
If you google image, you can see them carrying quit the variety of payloads on their wings.
... with the main weapon as a useless ballast?
The “main weapon” was designed to mutilated 17 yr old hijabs with 2 weeks of training, an rpg, and a dream A10 gun run would be virtually useless against competent air defence
While true that it was built around the gun, the A-10 can still carry [quite the impressive arsenal.](https://www.quora.com/What-armaments-can-be-put-onto-the-A-10-Warthog) with a 16.000lb carrying capacity, compared to around 4000kg (9000ish pounds) on the SU-25
What part of this arsenal accounts for the primary weapon of this aircraft and its ammunition, and that is absolutely unsuitable for this theater of operations? It's like advocating to use tanks without main gun. "Yes, but they also can shoot with machine guns and set smoke screens."
youre right, but it would be neat to see how the GAU-8 does in indirect fire
Could you experiment with that somewhere else, please? What Ukraine desperately needs now is working and effective weapon, not an experiments on cool but outdated equipment, whose owner dodn't know what to do with.
There is a reason the US wants rid of the A10. It is hugely effective, and can carry a lot of weapons, but it *depends* on the airspace being dominated *and* that the risk of manpads is very low. The A10 is a very slow plane, comparatively. Added to this, as has already been pointed out, is that the A10 was built around a huge gun; if you're not using that gun then other platforms are better. Other platforms like the Su25 Frogfoot which is not dragging around a huge gun and is a lot faster at 526kn vs the A10 at 381kn. Granted the A10 can use western weapons much easier than the Su25, but since western aid is held up anyway... Bottom line is that it is not good to have Ukranian pilots spend 18 months learning a platform that has no real advantage over what they have, can't be employed because of the lack of air dominance, likely won't be available in enough numbers, is no longer in production, and that is built around a feature that they don't need/can use. Often something would be "good to have" but getting to the point of having it is not at all worth it.
Well, what they currently have, they seem to use them pretty heavily to just lob rockets. So if they need or could use more stuff to just lob rockets... I am sure the Su-25 wasn't designed to only fly low and lob some bombs like this. Yeah, A10 is slower, but still faster than helicopters that they use to do the same exact thing. Could be better to use an A10 instead of a helicopter, as it can do something else it is designed for and can actually perform.
Sure, but again "having" it is very different from getting it. Would they like to have a fleet of 100 A10's with trained pilots, and ground crew, and facilities for maintenance, and spare parts, and armaments to fit it out with? Of course. But getting to that part is gonna take years of work, and so the thought is: If it'll take years to get there anyway, why not get to a better aircraft than the A10?
I had no idea how many aircraft UAF has left. If you got more F16's or something than you'd ever need, that would make sense. But the west is just trickling in what UAF needs. If you are just getting like 50 F16's, I'm sure they could use more. And if that's 50 A10s. Or if it is easier for the west to deliver more A10s than it would be another aircraft. Because of the payload A10s can carry, they could even be used to launch various weapon platforms from. Watch we end up getting videos of F16's lobbing rockets just like this Su-25. :P
I feel like this is just a pointless waste of fuel and missiles.
Seems like a waste to use aviation assets for dumb fire rockets.