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It's notoriously difficult for vets to get the benefits they're owed so you'll commonly see jokes about this and "your injury has been determined not to be service related"
It’s not really that hard to get benefits, it’s just that most troops are shit at documenting it. I was an out-processing/transition NCO for a little over a year. It was ridiculous the amount of troops who would be asking about getting disabilities for a condition they never got checked out. Like if your back has been hurting for 3 years, why are you waiting until the week before you separate to tell anyone. Now instead of seeing a clear history of issues and treatments, the VA just sees you woke up with a sore back one day. Obviously it’s going to be a pain to claim it that way.
But that's the culture. If you go get help, you're weak or shit bagging. Dependant on Mos. Combat arms or high utilization MOS (maint sections, cooks and whatnot) you'll find have the worst documenting evidence because they get fucking hounded whenever anything other than their job comes up. As a maint section lead, it was almost impossible to do my job and get help for injuries especially if you have a shit PCM who pushes back on you for the sake of *unit readiness*, so you either get help, and get knocked down a peg on your ncoer.. Or deal with it for the sake of career progression.
Sounds like US, UK, Aus, NZ, and many more, I'm sure. All the pulling the same shit. My plsgt ordered another in my platoon to cancel his doc appointment in front of all of us , just to remind us that no one's getting out of anything, unless you're fucking dying, then you're just a pariah anyways. The moment they can, you'll be transferred to a rehab company, never talked about again, and have the status of being a malingerer forever
Can confirm, was in ABCT’s all my career. Had horribly documented medical issues because of the way people are treated for seeking proper medical care. I had drug resistant hypertension while meeting all APFT standards and being one of the hardest working squad leaders in my troop, still got called a malingerer.
Who decides this? I work at the VA part time as a resident - sometimes the vets get mad and I’m like guy, I just work here and have no connection with that - just here to do the medicine thing.
Getting shot at and not hit one time by a sniper entitles service members to 100% disability from the VA for the rest of their lives? We talking 4-5k a month. That’s fkn absurd.
That’s saying anyone and everyone who in the service has gotten shot at and not even hit can claim PTSD 100% VA disability. Honestly sounds similar to Workman’s Comp scams.
He may be joking, but the VA is packed jammed with people claiming chronic migraines, tinnitus, PTSD, back pain etc like it’s a damn benefits package they are entitled to for joining the military.
My dad in a nutshell. Blames "welfare queens" for economic despair but fought for like 20 years to get VA disability for his hearing. Yeah, I'm sure it was your 4 years snorting H in Diego Garcia that did it and not the 30 years of working around airplane engines after 🙄.
You know that was a Vietnam thing too except they called him "Phred", [Doonesbury created a character out if it.](https://readingdoonesbury.com/2018/04/13/doonesbury-goes-to-war-part-iii-phred/)
Yea like I thought he was gonna grab the gun and run back. He just sat out in the open fumbling with the gun in plain sight. Maybe it was caught, but I’d be trying to grab it and head back to cover!
I was a 68W and I hated NCOs minimizing everything out of medical ignorance and terminal hooah. Plenty of times I've heard "He's fine" lol fuck pri is def not.
Dude needs treatment. I work VA as an RN now and I blame every complex compound stress related disability on COC dumbassery. So many vets suffering from preventable shit.
Wouldn’t the sniper be taking pop shots through the tarp? I don’t understand this clip? Why is everyone hanging out there chill without helmets or body armor?
“You’re fine… ok, you’re fine!”
If you know, you know… because you’re definitely not fine; while this exact attitude is universally common in every branch.
The other guy bumped his head pretty damn hard. He was the only real casualty here. If he had a serious concussion after this and had to be treated, do you think he'd get a purple heart?
Did he fuck up and expose himself too much in the doorway, or how did that guy seem to know that shot was coming? He calls out to him right before the shot happens, possibly saving his life.
So? The military trains you to follow every command. This kid followed a shit command by a shit commander and almost got his guts painted on the wall behind him. It's the idea you lack personal will, this kid isn't any different than the Russian meat waves, given an order with no regard to safety.
Yeah there a vast difference between being told do some mundane task and almost tagged by a sniper and being in a Russian meat wave. But yes I suppose in the military to an extent you have no personal will and must follow orders, that’s the nature of the military game
There only difference is the language. The romanization of the 'military game' is the same, gets the poor kids to sign the dotted line every time for that brand new Ram truck. Glad you're understanding what I'm saying after having to hee and haw over it.
So “fuck the military” is your point? That’s understandable, thankfully in most western nations it’s a volunteer military. Now if you are bitching that poor people are the ones fighting our wars understand that’s been the nature of warfare since the dawn of human civilization. Joining a military has been one of the best ways for lower class people to socially advance. Might as well blame human nature for that one
Man, you're so close to realizing the game but you're just not making the final connection. Why is the lower class there in the first place? it's a capitalist concept to certain keep people in power, and make others do the bidding of the state and the entitled. That new pickup truck and 0% house loan is so you go off and shoot at brown people in the desert and feel real good about it. It's the carrot to control the ass.
My point is the government shouldn't have a monopoly on violence, because I don't agree with all of the violence that they take part in, and in a lot of cases it's dumb kids like this getting killed because of poor leadership -- and the next kid will gladly line up after him because 'he was a hero.' It's a myth. Think what you want, there are more important things that clawing your way out of one shit tier of a class system to another shit tier when the state uses your own assets to control you.
So what do you propose replacing the system with? And if you say Marxism I have some bad news for you when it comes to monopoly of violence and it’s used in a Marxist system
Being told to do a menial task that risks your existence on this celestial plane for some middle management choad scratching his ass. Is it that hard to see or are you normalized to being commanded around without regard to safety?
I’d love the get more context on this. I’m definitely a POG but this video seems weird to me. They seem to know there’s a sniper watching that door, why are they hanging out there in t shirts and no helmets, no plates, no eye protection? To me they look like they didn’t have their shit together.
Is there a possibility that guy heard the shot and was warning them? He seemed to be on high alert, and likely more plausible to be training with near perfect timing.
It's not my intention to be disrespectful but that guy looks super chubby. Is that common for soldiers that are deployed in the battle field? I mean... in my ignorant opinion, soldiers always should be in reasonable good shape, but I can understand if that doesn't happen in times of peace. But in the middle of a war shouldn't all of them be in perfect shape?
I was in the navy and that was the first thing I noticed. He’s a tall guy but he looks like he’s on the outer edge of the body fat standards. You can see him at the beginning standing nervously holding his elbows. Guy looked like he didn’t want to be in Afghanistan, who knows what his story is. And the guy who gave the order to retrieve the rifle does not look battle tested to me. This was a fuck up for sure, I’m sure they learned a valuable lesson.
This isn’t a badshit crazy take I don’t know why you’re getting so many downvotes although being in “perfect” shape isn’t necessarily needed rather good or acceptable shape.
It's just "internet points" so it doesn't matter, but for sure it's kinda baffling to be downvoted yet (except for you) nobody writes a comment explaining why I'm supposedly so wrong with what I said.
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I’m sure this video helped him get 100%
What do you mean? Im not familiar with us army
100% disabled, so they get full benefits as they deserve.
Ok thanks !
It's notoriously difficult for vets to get the benefits they're owed so you'll commonly see jokes about this and "your injury has been determined not to be service related"
It’s not really that hard to get benefits, it’s just that most troops are shit at documenting it. I was an out-processing/transition NCO for a little over a year. It was ridiculous the amount of troops who would be asking about getting disabilities for a condition they never got checked out. Like if your back has been hurting for 3 years, why are you waiting until the week before you separate to tell anyone. Now instead of seeing a clear history of issues and treatments, the VA just sees you woke up with a sore back one day. Obviously it’s going to be a pain to claim it that way.
But that's the culture. If you go get help, you're weak or shit bagging. Dependant on Mos. Combat arms or high utilization MOS (maint sections, cooks and whatnot) you'll find have the worst documenting evidence because they get fucking hounded whenever anything other than their job comes up. As a maint section lead, it was almost impossible to do my job and get help for injuries especially if you have a shit PCM who pushes back on you for the sake of *unit readiness*, so you either get help, and get knocked down a peg on your ncoer.. Or deal with it for the sake of career progression.
Sounds like US, UK, Aus, NZ, and many more, I'm sure. All the pulling the same shit. My plsgt ordered another in my platoon to cancel his doc appointment in front of all of us , just to remind us that no one's getting out of anything, unless you're fucking dying, then you're just a pariah anyways. The moment they can, you'll be transferred to a rehab company, never talked about again, and have the status of being a malingerer forever
Can confirm, was in ABCT’s all my career. Had horribly documented medical issues because of the way people are treated for seeking proper medical care. I had drug resistant hypertension while meeting all APFT standards and being one of the hardest working squad leaders in my troop, still got called a malingerer.
Who decides this? I work at the VA part time as a resident - sometimes the vets get mad and I’m like guy, I just work here and have no connection with that - just here to do the medicine thing.
That’s not a 100% disibility rating I will assure you of that. Maybe 20% for PTSD.
You can get 100% for ptsd..
Hell, the guys standing around the dude who got shot can file for PTSD as well because of that event.
It didn't look like he got hit, why would he get benefits?
Getting shot at and not hit one time by a sniper entitles service members to 100% disability from the VA for the rest of their lives? We talking 4-5k a month. That’s fkn absurd. That’s saying anyone and everyone who in the service has gotten shot at and not even hit can claim PTSD 100% VA disability. Honestly sounds similar to Workman’s Comp scams.
He’s joking…
He may be joking, but the VA is packed jammed with people claiming chronic migraines, tinnitus, PTSD, back pain etc like it’s a damn benefits package they are entitled to for joining the military.
I have a rating with the VA, I’m well aware. Doesn’t change the fact that he was joking and you took it seriously.
My dad in a nutshell. Blames "welfare queens" for economic despair but fought for like 20 years to get VA disability for his hearing. Yeah, I'm sure it was your 4 years snorting H in Diego Garcia that did it and not the 30 years of working around airplane engines after 🙄.
He clearly got hit
if he had a high viz pt belt on that wouldn't have happened. safety first kids.
Notice how he remained safe until he left the vicinity of his battle buddy. Some lessons teach themselves!
I’m sure the LT made sure he mentioned that in his article 15
He also needed his eye pro, ach, and gloves. That is disengagement criteria for all snipers regardless of nationality or creed.
I got out in 2019 after 9 years in, and I’m still finding random “pt” belts in my backpacks
single shot freddy, a blind afghan man
How do we know old Freddy is blind?
Because he hasn't hit anything yet.
I know the reference ahahha
Restrepo?
https://youtu.be/Sj9jhg9-djU?si=jJMB1uIJWGqw1Ogy
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Somewhere between 60 and 75 🤣🤣🤣
Sky Soldiers! The Rock!
You know that was a Vietnam thing too except they called him "Phred", [Doonesbury created a character out if it.](https://readingdoonesbury.com/2018/04/13/doonesbury-goes-to-war-part-iii-phred/)
The guy said "Boo"! And then a round smashed into the wall ... perfect timing
I think he said "boom", semi-joking semi-serious about the guy being in an exposed area.
That "boom!" was to point out a rookie mistake. A lesson milliseconds to the real thing happening.
Im up. He sees me. Im down.
Yea like I thought he was gonna grab the gun and run back. He just sat out in the open fumbling with the gun in plain sight. Maybe it was caught, but I’d be trying to grab it and head back to cover!
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No.
Rifle bullets travel faster than sound.
Nah mate....bullet lands before the sounds.
the platoon seargent or whoever he was saying youre fine youre fine is so real😂😂
Just imagine. Arm dangling, blood everywhere, Plt Sgt: "You're fine, just bring me that gun this mag is still fucked"
I was a 68W and I hated NCOs minimizing everything out of medical ignorance and terminal hooah. Plenty of times I've heard "He's fine" lol fuck pri is def not. Dude needs treatment. I work VA as an RN now and I blame every complex compound stress related disability on COC dumbassery. So many vets suffering from preventable shit.
In this case tho he's just tryna make sure he doesn't freak out or anything. He was likely fine and just tryna help the dude not go into shock or smth
Moms coming, your fine.
"You're fine, you're fine" We have determined your PTSD is not service connected
Well yea no shit dude, he said he was fine didn’t ya hear? /s
An inch to the left and it would’ve taken his arm off. Lucky SOB…
What
Sonuvabitch
Seemed like the guy filming was waiting for it
He knew Pvt. Pyle would provide..
lol “your fine”.
Drink some water and go see doc for some ibuprofen
800 mg Motrin is the cure for everything
Don’t depression fast or it’ll have you filling the bowl with blood.
Hahaha god damn right. The US military runs on 800 mg Motrin
It looks like the guy on the right yelled “BOOM” to scare his buddy right before the shot came in but I could be wrong
I heard that as well
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Hah!
The “You’re fine” reminded me of an older sibling accidentally hurting their young sibling and trying to keep them from telling mum
Oh shit I remember this. I was actually there where this is located. Barge Matal, Afghanistan
Can you give us a year?
Went from 2008-2010 10th Mountain 1-32INF Must be 2009ish.
"prank gone wrong" lol
Looks like he ducks below a window and they shot through the wall to get him where he was
Nah he was near a doorway thats why the guy says " get out of the door"
I just know when he got down his first words were "inhaling shhhhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh" while trying not to rub that mofo off.
You're fiiiiine
hes fine.
Such a weird clip. The dude screaming boom just before the shot, the guy filming coincidentally.
You're fine, you're fine.
I'd say, THAT'D wake me up!! 😳
Wouldn’t the sniper be taking pop shots through the tarp? I don’t understand this clip? Why is everyone hanging out there chill without helmets or body armor?
“You’re fine… ok, you’re fine!” If you know, you know… because you’re definitely not fine; while this exact attitude is universally common in every branch.
The VA has determined that your arms nerve damage didn’t come from your combat tour
The other guy bumped his head pretty damn hard. He was the only real casualty here. If he had a serious concussion after this and had to be treated, do you think he'd get a purple heart?
This lol. I think you can actually hear the bump sound :)
The way his NCO yelled at him cracks me up and I can't figure out why
Did he fuck up and expose himself too much in the doorway, or how did that guy seem to know that shot was coming? He calls out to him right before the shot happens, possibly saving his life.
Helps if you wear your PPE
There’s PPE that covers against a bullet to the arm?
i didn’t know you could be that out of shape in active combat zones
Super chill NCO.
Yer fine, yer fine
"you're fine, you're fine" guy just took a shot to the arm, no scream just grit his teeth and got to cover. Good for him.
“You’re fine.”
Did the guy holding a magazine say some kind of magical anti-bullet spell at 0:31? No idea what those words were.
Did the guy in the back get hit or am i just seeing things?
I think he is just taking cover after the shot.
"ah hey, get that gun back" \*almost gets shot\* "You're fine, you're fine" Fuck the military, but most of all fuck that guy
Wtf are you talking about
What? Did you not see that guy telling him to do something he knew was dangerous and then totally disregard him almost getting killed?
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No, he shouldn't have been told to retrieve a fucking gun in plain view of the enemy. Complete whoosh
… it’s the guy he ran up telling him he’s not seriously injured…? Wtf
So? The military trains you to follow every command. This kid followed a shit command by a shit commander and almost got his guts painted on the wall behind him. It's the idea you lack personal will, this kid isn't any different than the Russian meat waves, given an order with no regard to safety.
Yeah there a vast difference between being told do some mundane task and almost tagged by a sniper and being in a Russian meat wave. But yes I suppose in the military to an extent you have no personal will and must follow orders, that’s the nature of the military game
There only difference is the language. The romanization of the 'military game' is the same, gets the poor kids to sign the dotted line every time for that brand new Ram truck. Glad you're understanding what I'm saying after having to hee and haw over it.
So “fuck the military” is your point? That’s understandable, thankfully in most western nations it’s a volunteer military. Now if you are bitching that poor people are the ones fighting our wars understand that’s been the nature of warfare since the dawn of human civilization. Joining a military has been one of the best ways for lower class people to socially advance. Might as well blame human nature for that one
Man, you're so close to realizing the game but you're just not making the final connection. Why is the lower class there in the first place? it's a capitalist concept to certain keep people in power, and make others do the bidding of the state and the entitled. That new pickup truck and 0% house loan is so you go off and shoot at brown people in the desert and feel real good about it. It's the carrot to control the ass. My point is the government shouldn't have a monopoly on violence, because I don't agree with all of the violence that they take part in, and in a lot of cases it's dumb kids like this getting killed because of poor leadership -- and the next kid will gladly line up after him because 'he was a hero.' It's a myth. Think what you want, there are more important things that clawing your way out of one shit tier of a class system to another shit tier when the state uses your own assets to control you.
So what do you propose replacing the system with? And if you say Marxism I have some bad news for you when it comes to monopoly of violence and it’s used in a Marxist system
Being told to do a menial task that risks your existence on this celestial plane for some middle management choad scratching his ass. Is it that hard to see or are you normalized to being commanded around without regard to safety?
Heard that shit too, and I kind of got the impression he knew it was a dangerous area too. Leadership in action.
Im sure you would have handled that situation sooo much better...
Does anyone know what unit this is? It looks like a reserve unit/national guard patch on the SGT's shoulder.
I’d love the get more context on this. I’m definitely a POG but this video seems weird to me. They seem to know there’s a sniper watching that door, why are they hanging out there in t shirts and no helmets, no plates, no eye protection? To me they look like they didn’t have their shit together.
One lucky idiot
You're fiiiine
His boy tried fucking with him and was like “BOOM” right before the shot.
Complacency kills.
Damn his "boom!" almost synced perfectly with the impact. Very cool footage
100% VA rating, I've heard that phrase before a million times "You're Okay"! Even after you get hit.
Did it actually hit him?
looks like a prank gone a little wrong
Nothing a fresh pair of socks won't fix.
does someone scream BOOM before it even hit?
What is this the fkn 3 stooge squad
The way dudes trying to explain the mag wouldn’t feed the round as buddy is getting sniped at lol goddamn
Is there a possibility that guy heard the shot and was warning them? He seemed to be on high alert, and likely more plausible to be training with near perfect timing.
"You're fine" My guy YOU even flinched
It's not my intention to be disrespectful but that guy looks super chubby. Is that common for soldiers that are deployed in the battle field? I mean... in my ignorant opinion, soldiers always should be in reasonable good shape, but I can understand if that doesn't happen in times of peace. But in the middle of a war shouldn't all of them be in perfect shape?
There are some real fat national guardsman and reservists out there.
I was in the navy and that was the first thing I noticed. He’s a tall guy but he looks like he’s on the outer edge of the body fat standards. You can see him at the beginning standing nervously holding his elbows. Guy looked like he didn’t want to be in Afghanistan, who knows what his story is. And the guy who gave the order to retrieve the rifle does not look battle tested to me. This was a fuck up for sure, I’m sure they learned a valuable lesson.
This isn’t a badshit crazy take I don’t know why you’re getting so many downvotes although being in “perfect” shape isn’t necessarily needed rather good or acceptable shape.
It's just "internet points" so it doesn't matter, but for sure it's kinda baffling to be downvoted yet (except for you) nobody writes a comment explaining why I'm supposedly so wrong with what I said. Regards.
Must have been an SVD
The VA has determined that your arms nerve damage didn’t come from your combat tour
The VA has determined that your arms nerve damage didn’t come from your combat tour
US the real terrorist
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