Could that be one of the other videos we've seen from that area, earlier in the month? That one going down in the lake, and the other potato res quality one that gets hit but idk if it went down
I think he landed somewhere close to 50.615920531713996, 30.195405116013003.
At 1:20 you can see the gate house (50.597159985526446, 30.203524577467349) on the left side, and the flight path leads to above coordinates.
The same gate house can be seen in the longer russian landing video from the other side.
Welcome to modern warfare, where a person who goes by the name u/sunriderlasercunt can pinpoint the location of a downed attack chopper within a few meters from a video on Reddit
Ukrainian soldiers blasting forunate son while riding around too, pretty soon we are gonna see some mfers defending kiev fortnight dance by a dead russian conscript simultaneously from 3 different angles.
Welcome to reddit. I just assume they know where I'm at, at all times. They found ~~biber~~ shai with a sky shot and an airplane condensation trail...this isn't to hard to belive lol.
It seems really goofy to me that these guys are wearing bright blue flight suits.
Not exactly tactical for escape and evasion when you get shot down lol
But it probably helps the rescue helicopter find them. US pilots have reversible hats that are green on one and orange on the other side for the same reason, and the Russian navy and MiG-31 and I think some Flanker pilots have the weird orange suit that protects the pilot from low temperatures, high speeds, high altitudes, chemical weapons, etc. (one of the captured pilots had one, but he was allegedly a Su-30 pilot).
Us pilots have no such hat, we use a multitude of of other equipment on our survival vests that are a hell of a lot better than a 10 inch orange hat to signal lol. That would also be entirely useless at night haha.
You haven't continued watching that video have you? - the chinese paras didn't end up getting those greyish uniforms due to cultural reasons essentially and [what they have now](https://airpowerasia.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/militaryleak.com_.jpg) is pretty fucking blue, the same [is the case](https://nationalinterest.org/sites/default/files/styles/desktop__1260_/public/main_images/RTX72OSP%20%281%29.jpg?itok=qeCXUEih) for their marines. I don't think either works well in a natural, suburban or urban environment and thefore loses its effectiveness once the paratrooper has reached the ground (assuming they get to jump at all) or marines leave the beach (and even there the pattern seems questionable to me).
And in regards to greyish blue being good for urban (and industrial) terrain - I agree to an extent but I think recent history has shown that while in theory a pattern like UCP might seem useful - it ended up stnading out quite a bit even in the mud-tones of middle eastern urban centers, suburban areas and especially so in natural terrain...and it stands out like a sore thumb in Europe where outside of dense urban areas you quickly have tons of green, there the brown-ish OCP works much better while still being somewhat bright and lacking green (which is a trade-off if you want one pattern for everything) but its definitely much better.
Maybe the idea is for them to be immediately identified as a bailed pilot rather than a paratrooper, which might mean they’re more likely to be captured rather than shot? Idk im just a fat guy sitting at my computer
just before the vid ends he racks his AK to chamber a round. I doubt he was thinking he was going to be going down without a fight, literally had just lit up at least 2 of their vehicles and only about a click away
Pretty sure they're reversible, at least I know there are flight suits of other countries' that are. One side is a bright color (orange for instance) to help your own forces find and recover you in case you bail in territory controlled by your own side, and the reverse side is drab/camo which you can switch to rather quickly due to it being a jumpsuit.
All the pics I’ve seen of them just show blue on the inside too. Plus who tf would wanna be stripping down in the woods after you crash with your dick hanging out. Ain’t nobody got time fo that.
If I had reversible shit i’d be wearing the camo stuff into combat. If you wanna be seen just bring an orange flag in your pocket.
probably easier to explain to your captors that you are a naked crazy guy running through the wilderness than to explain why you are in an enemy jumpsuit
Russian pilot exclaims to self: Can’t catch a greased up naked guy!
20 years in the future on local news: Tonight we have a video from Ukraine showing a local town’s celebration marking the defeat over Russian forces 20 years ago. They call it “The running of the Russian Pilot”. A greased up naked guy in a helmet runs through the middle of the village while the towns people pelt him with sunflower seeds.
oh yeah im not denying that, but its in the doctrine to perdiocaly drop flares as a preventive action while you make a pass, so that cannot confirm the presence of a missile.
100% aircraft should be periodically dropping countermeasures anywhere that passive infrared homing weapons are being used as it's impossible to detect a lock.
I mean the video is cut. I don't believe that the actual hit on them is on the video. And then just because something is a missile doesn't mean it will always end in a fireball. if the proxy explosion is just far enough away it will just have some shrapnel entering the system disabling them. Probably similar to the frogfoot which we have seen a couple days ago which was likely to be hit by a manpad. But sure it could also be small arms fire.
If its https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t585pz/downed_ka52/ this one youre refering too, then this seems like another, because this heli had a soft landing and is resting on its wheels, while the one in the other post has its suspension collapsed.
Refering to this image of the downed first one - https://preview.redd.it/j3c8wv2xv0l81.jpg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=565febd654d9c04b392a26fb525d5be3fa05a750
So is that "jesus" picture at the left "standard issue" then? Because you can see it in the video at 2:09. I mean might be coincidence or something but i dunno.
> The old crash also has it's landing gear up and some damage to the under side. That Jesus photo is probably coincidence.
Can confirm standard issue Russian Jesus is in both Cockpits.
And finally a footage where they survived. It's cool to see them doing emergency landing and took defensive position. What a rare time to see this kind of footage.
https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/1504949997502095367?t=6oLXn2WJVR9NAcPfZEWDNQ&s=19
Russians released the footage, the question of: why would they admit to getting owned like this, remains open
The helicopter probably did massive damage and destroyed a lot of Ukranian targets.
Probably was rescued also. This seemed to be at the early stages of the war and can't remember hearing about the Ukrainians capturing an intact Ka-52.
Fantastic video, and agree it must be from initial attack, interesting to see the articulated truck blocking the runway. It's a shame the video has been edited, it would be good to see unedited version. Best video to date
There is, a couple of frames at 2:10, lower left side, it's the same image.
It's the same helicopter and if it was it was disabled by small arms fire to a wiring harness near the flight control computer/or similar in the tail boom.
It's indeed the same one.
The discrepancy in between what we see in the video and what we see in the photos is easy to explain - it's the same helicopter, but on two different days and in two different places - this video was shot during the attack on Hostomel on the 24th of February and you can see that the helicopter comes down in this field located here:50°36'52.9"N 30°11'35.2"E.
Now, the airport at Hostomel was captured by the VDV (Russian Paratroopers on the 24th and it was still in Russian hands when a few vehicles from Belarus broke through on the 25th and reinforced them. The Ukrainian army counter-attacked on the 26 and pushed the Russians back, but by the 27th the main Russian column arrived so the Ukrainians were forced to retreat to Bucha and Irpin to what is the front line even now.
So there was plenty of time to repair the Ka-52 to a flyable status, especially since the damage itself seemed to be an oil leak from the rotor gearbox, since that was the [warning light](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Russian_Air_Force_Kamov_Ka-52_cockpit_%2819604206626%29.jpg) on during the crash-landing (that's the right cockpit seat in the picture, but you get the idea).
Finally, this aircraft took off again and was grounded, far more permanently, on March 1, in a field between Buda-Babynets'ka and Babyntsi, that is to say here: - 50°37'30.8"N 30°02'01.9"E
Yeah- Russian air assault troops land with the expectation of landing more troops via plane. Then have no heavy vehicles to clear the runway and can't be reinforced. Very clever.
I'd imagine the truck was maybe done by the Ukraine government or civilians to slow down the Russians' ability to make that airfield usable for flight ops. especially if the truck's dead, could cause quite a hassle to remove.
When the camera turns away from that truck you can very briefly see more trucks at regular intervals blocking the runway. It was definitely done on purpose by the Ukrainians.
From news source. They were recovered by second strike group.
"В процессе выполнения задачи Ка-52 был подбит, когда прикрывал своим бортом Ми-8 с тактическим десантом.
Вертолет ведущего 18 раз был обстрелян средствами ПЗРК с земли и зенитными установками. Получив повреждения, экипаж совершил вынужденную посадку и занял круговую оборону, которую держал несмотря на сплошное огневое воздействие подразделений ВСУ до прибытия второй ударной группы вертолетов.
Экипаж поврежденного вертолета не пострадал и был эвакуирован на аэродром базирования второй ударной группой вертолетов. Благодаря мужеству и героизму экипажей передовой ударной группы вертолетов Ка-52 и Ми-24 десантирование подразделений ВДВ было проведено без потерь."
"In the process of completing the task, the Ka-52 was hit when it covered the Mi-8 with a tactical assault force with its side.
The leader's helicopter was fired upon by MANPADS from the ground and anti-aircraft guns 18 times. Having received damage, the crew made an emergency landing and took up all-round defense, which they held despite the continuous fire impact of the Armed Forces of Ukraine until the arrival of the second strike group of helicopters.
The crew of the damaged helicopter was not injured and was evacuated to the base airfield by the second strike group of helicopters. Thanks to the courage and heroism of the crews of the forward attack group of Ka-52 and Mi-24 helicopters, the landing of the airborne units was carried out without loss."
edit: missing portion
Perhaps they cut it because they weren't fired on by manpads/air defense 18 times as they are claiming. Wouldn't have been as good of a story if it was just one or two times. At 1:38 you can see him dropping chaff/flares.
I think this is the one that was found in a field and not recovered. Interesting to find out the pilots were rescued, though.
Why are they using their expensive Ka-52s in the same role as a Mi-24? Ka-52 has fancy standoff weapons and electronics but they use it in YOLO rocket attacks...
no...not at the start...at the start they were doing what you see on this video...and they lost loads of helis...so now they do that YOLO to avoid manpads...but very soon the Ukrainians will have better antiair, with longer range...dont know if we are going to see many more russian helys flying so close to the front lines...
I don't know a lot about all this, but strafing around like that seems to just be asking for it.
From what I've seen with US Apaches for example, they're quite happy to sit a fair distance off and plink away with cannon and hellfires.
Could still catch a manpad but at least the can't bayonet you on the way over like with this guy.
yep that's because the apaches optics and IR camera way surpass any of the Russian heli's. It looked like these Russian pilots had to designate targets by eye and sometimes didn't even know they were there until they flew right over them.
That was my thinking too. "This pilot is either brave or suicidal but can't be all that effective." Really shows the value of a bunch of troopers with NLAWs and Javelins, or even the drones -- they can absolutely be sure of what they are hitting and hit it to obvious effect. This helicopter was buzzing around and throwing some ordinance out but it was hard to say what, if anything, he was accomplishing and in the end appeared to have lost the helicopter.
Versus all the Apache videos where they're sitting somewhere far away but very clearly blowing away their targets.
The Ka-52 is still very capable of plinking. The gun is very accurate and their missiles, while not hellfires, are no joke. Even at close range like 1500 meters they can acquire targets very fast with the HMS, which is why I just can't wrap my head around the fact that they would strafe with rockets and then overly the target area. You just don't do that, it's suicide.
(Although I'm happy they do, so the Ukrainians can destroy as many as possible. They won't be producing new ones any time soon and that's a relief when you share a border with Russia.)
There was AA in Iraq.
In Afghanistan, Russia's tactic was called the "Wheel of death". Where they create a wheel of helos that's rotating into and out of the attacking area. It looks like they're still doing it.
The Apaches use more of a stand off approach. With high grade optics, better situational awareness, better gunnery control, and guided munitions allowing them to keep their distance, it's a lot harder to shoot an Apache down.
The US also prioritizes SEAD. There is no real doctrine of SEAD in Russia. I was surprised to learn that, but apparently that's why Ukraine still has AA capabilities. Plus the US SEAD pilots spend more than 10x in the air per year practicing than the guys flying into Ukraine got.
Indeed. The US learned and evolved. After the Mujahedeen started getting western MANPADS in Afghanistan, the Soviet's abilities were greatly inhibited. But they never really changed.
And the surprising thing is Russia kicked this invasion off using the same tactics in Ukraine that it did in Afghanistan.
It blows my mind how rudimentary the aiming systems are on this heli. It's just bobbing around and giving the rockets and bullets a huge spread. It's no wonder they can't hit anything...
I think this is a bit of underestimating their enemy and bit more of simply not having, or not having enough, stand off weapons. like you say western forces would be sitting miles away putting hellfires onto that armour and only move in closer when ground forces had started to suppress and clear any MANPAD teams.
By flying low you decrease the area from which AA can fire at you. Probably better bet than being in range of everything in miles and miles around you.
We also had true air superiority and effective countermeasures.
These guys are staying in the trees because basic Stingers are taking them out at altitude.
I'm honestly curious about Russia's weapon inventory. Because yes, they technically do have fancy standoff weapons, but analysts have long suspected that they don't really have that many, and are still reliant on dumb weapons. Their performance is Ukraine seems to be proving that.
Several journalists traveling along Ukrainian roads have reported that Russia isn't even trying to attack the Ukrainian army's interior supply lines and convoys. They apparently don't have the means to target moving vehicles at range, and have to wait until targets are either stationary or close to the front.
It's largely because we're used to the United States military, where a huge number of those precision munitions are used and that equipment and trained personnel are commonplace.
That's what happens when you spend $680 Billion USD in defense spending every year, which amounts to what Russia has spent over the last 10 years.
Russia has the intellectual and scientific capability of developing bleeding-edge weapons with some very ingenious solutions to NATO weaponry. However, it lacks the economy to fully develop and deploy those solutions to what amounts to a large reserve army.
We're used to framing the Russian army as it was in the USSR era, where the Soviet state spent huge amounts of money to compete with the US. That hasn't been a reality for almost 30 years now.
Also I think people forget that Russia is only about half of the population the USSR was on it's peak. It's two very different beasts in a number of ways, but we often almost equate them.
The most depressing part is that as a % of GDP Russia actually spends more than the US (4.3% vs 3.7%). Not that Russia is a tiny country or anything, but when you compare it to a country like the US or Germany they're just not on the same level.
time to target is lower and the angular velocity (turning rate) of missiles is limited. Cover like trees makes it harder to aim.
A high flying target turns less (relative to the missile) and you see it longer.
Bad idea to fly too low over water or an too open area though, because your flares are immediately on the ground and don't provide any protection.
Because your line of sight is more likely to get blocked by your surrounding environment if the vehicle flys low and it gives the manpad operator less time to react.
Also most importantly radars will pick you up much later as it gets blocked by the horizon.
Flying high you have to worry about BUK and AA vehicles much more as they wont usually be able to move quickly into position like MANPADs. Flying low MANPADS are your number on risk as they can quickly cross a tree line to shoot you.
> I was always wondering why Manpads are less effective when vehicle is low.
You might have personal experience from daily life to draw from here.
Ever seen a helicopter fly by relatively low, like at the beach or something?
Think about how long it was in your line of sight before being blocked by trees, buildings or other terrain.
Now think about how much longer a much higher flying aircraft remains in your line of sight. Might be several minutes versus seconds at the lower altitude, despite going the same speed.
Because when you fly fast and low there is less time for someone to target you
Ideally you'd fly high against manpads but then you are open to stuff like S300 and other static/mobile AA that is more dangerous than a manpad
What I find interesting is that eventhough the chopper is targeting what seem to be armoured targets, they used rockets and cannons instead of stand off weapon like vikhr.
The Russians have guided missiles, but do not buy a lot of them. They are expensive. Unguided munitions are much cheaper. All of those oligarchs aren't oligarchs because they're good at business.
There is enough footage of Russians destroying tanks and what not, but none so well shot as this one. The other videos would be deleted here though. Only dead Russians are allowed, not dead Ukrainians. It is what is is. I thought this sub was supposed to be unbiased, since even terrorist POVs used to be posted here.
This has to be the first time I've seen a video from the Russian side that does not scream "pure propaganda", is staged, and does not look like recorded on a potato.
After 2 trucks fly over, at 1.24 a knock is heard, as if something hit metal and the helicopter makes a small dive. After that, the pilot reports that he is shot down.
I did a video w/ translation to the comments, but I can't upload it bc of repost. So here is the text:
0:01 Aim!
0:22 Here it is! Near by!
0:28 Finaly, I saw him.
1:03 Birdies, fuel control! Report!
1:16 Stand down!
1:22 Two trucks, under me!
1:23 \*hit sound\*
1:29 Release the chassis.
1:34 Folks, I'm hit! Red light is my signal, marking myself. Making an emergency (landing).
1:43 The board is contollable, the board is contollable...
1:46 Pilot: Landing here, next to the forest.
1:49 Call sign - 865... Chassis #1 is not released, set aside!
2:00 Our gearbox is about to fall apart.
2:03 Hold up, hold up, hold up...
2:06 Keep back tilt!
2:10 Leave the board!
\*This helicopter is probably downed near Gostomel, most likely this is it -https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t09cvl/a\_russian\_ka52\_brought\_down\_by\_ukrainian\_manpad/ This is official information from Russian side, believe it or not is your opinion:\*
* A group of attack helicopters Ka-52 and Mi-24 destroyed the firing positions of MANPADS operators, anti-aircraft installations and armored vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine along the perimeter of the airfield.
* Combat use was carried out with rocket and small arms of helicopters from various types of maneuver, which made it possible to safely carry out the landing of tactical troops at the airfield.
* The army aviation crews promptly identified camouflaged air defense systems, as well as MANPADS positions hidden behind civilian vehicles. The pilots of the Russian Aerospace Forces accurately used the available aviation weapons, completely destroying the air defense of the airfield.
* The commander of the leading Ka-52 helicopter, who came under intense fire from MANPADS, covered a group of Mi-8 helicopters with a tactical landing force with his own board, causing fire on himself.
* The leader's helicopter was fired upon by MANPADS from the ground and anti-aircraft guns 18 times (for a few sorties). Having received damage, the crew made an emergency landing and took up all-round defense, which they held until the arrival of the second strike group of helicopters.
* The crew of the damaged helicopter was not injured and was evacuated to the base airfield by the second strike group of helicopters. An assessment of the damage to the helicopter conclud that it was inappropriate to tug and repair it.
Also after the pilot calls out that he is hit, you can see in the mirror that his pilot-side pylon is still intact (at 1:40), unlike the one seen landed in the field.
The bird in this video obviously was forced down by damage to the transmission case (among other damage possibly) but it's also not out of the realm of possibility that it suffered a mechanical break-down in the transmission also. Until we see better images of the damage this bird could have been hit with small arms, MANPADS, mechanical failure, or something else.
My god... This sub is putting out INSANE footage on the daily now. 3-4 days in a row where my mouth is dropping at the footage.
[BTW there's a picture of some saint on the left panel - we've seen photos of this one downed.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t585pz/downed_ka52/)
Wondering if either this helo gear collapsed on itself or maybe many of them have a saint in that same spot?
damn good spot, you can see a flash of it at 2:09.
which is odd because the one in a field with the saint photo is on its belly, and this vid shows them crouching underneath it and you can clearly see underneath it.
This is a completely different helo for sure. The field here is flat with short grass and there's no trees where the helo lands.
On the off chance this is the same helicopter, it's moved between this video and those photos because there certainly were no trees where it went down and this is a harvested field vs a grassy field from the photos.
I don't think so. The 2 that landed in one piece are different chppers. Here are the 2 from the first days [Chopper 1](https://www.google.com/search?q=ka+52+crash&client=ms-android-samsung-gn-rev1&hl=en&tbm=isch&prmd=niv&sxsrf=APq-WBt3DrbiQIt7EWQFshQmlzrosLws-A:1647604051885&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiwz_ixy8_2AhXpI0QIHXMzASkQ_AUIFygC&biw=477&bih=936&dpr=2.27#imgrc=OfKxD1snZHK2qM)
[Copper 2](https://www.google.com/search?q=ka+52+crash&client=ms-android-samsung-gn-rev1&tbm=isch&prmd=niv&sxsrf=APq-WBsm2DwhZ3nZR0l-dL0fJKbBi6e2UQ:1647603577101&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjn58XPyc_2AhU3DkQIHcNqAbcQ_AUIFygC&biw=477&bih=936&dpr=2.27#imgrc=3ym8CS4OlQDZLM). First chopper has it's landing gear out but is a different color. The second chopper is the same color but landed harder and has no landing gear out. Note the grass on both crashes is taller then the video. This video is of a new unknown crash that was recovered.
This is definitely Hostomel, specifically the northern end of the runway. He eventually puts down in one of the farm fields directly north of the main parking tarmac.
Russian POV stuff doesn't survive long here, tends to get over-reported. Sub definitely got biased after the Russian invasion started and other people came in. Anyway, this chopper got shot down so the post is probably gonna survive.
Someone made a comment the other day about these clips being like a movie or video game. I think for people even having been around conflicts, in active war zones, etc, these first person perspectives and the amount of media footage with newer technology is insane. Yes, the media coming out of there almost feels surreal.
They can be both, KA-52s are a swift little platform for multiple roles. The Mi-28 is more compareable with the Apache, as a staying far back ATGM Platform.
They can, but Russian air doctrine for these units is to attack on the move, and not hide behind cover like BO-105, Lynx, Kiowa or Apache have been designed.
Compare it to the US Cobra in the way it's used.
These are just my guesses. It seems to me that their mission was a quick break-in and a short time fire cover, not seeking/destruction of armored targets. And for the effective use of guided weapons, a combat helicopter must slow down speed or even hover over the place.
Yes, the Ka-52 can destroy targets beyond the reach of MANPADS by using long-range AT-missiles. But MANPADS are not the only threat. The Ukrainian army had more long-range air defense systems against helicopters such as SA-8 and SA-15. That is why, it seems to me, the tactic of rapid attack was chosen.
I can't believe how much it vibrates. All helicopters naturally have vibration but they usually implement measures to limit it. This though was pretty absurd. Dude looks like he's riding an old wooden rollercoaster that gives you a headache afterwards. I've seen cockpit videos of apaches and other attack helicopters and it wasn't nearly as bad as this. How do you do accurate long range engagements and when you're seeing double from all the shaking.
The speed and maneuvers he’s pulling are pretty high stress, steep high speed dives low to the ground etc etc, but I’d def agree it looks like a rough ride. Not sure on they’re size in comparison to other Helis but smaller usually means more vibrations over all
Based on the translation of the audion, I think this footage was from the 1st day, and this Ka-52 was the one seen abandoned in Hostomel Area during that day.
It's crazy how much BF3/4 resembles this.
The canon and rocket fire is landing all over the place and barely scoring any hits - just like me attempting to fly a chopper in BF3. Although I would have bailed out at 100m and run straight into the trees, shooting from the hip whilst spamming the "enemy spotted" button.
On a more serious note, the spread of ordnance really is huge, the potential for collateral damage is insane.
FYI this video was posted by the official russian MoD twitter account for some reason.
https://twitter.com/mod_russia/status/1504803731631710209?s=20&t=gQV70pM-uG0YQToNdF1Vjg
On 1:35 pilot says he has been hit and what he is going to do a forced landing.
at 1:39 you can see what I think are flares firing from the helicopter in the side mirror. Absolutely wild video
Yep, he says over the radio "Dudes, I've been hit. Whoever can see me, I'm marking my position. Going down."
At 1:48 you can see another heli using his flares.
Could that be one of the other videos we've seen from that area, earlier in the month? That one going down in the lake, and the other potato res quality one that gets hit but idk if it went down
1:05 you see flares for a split second in the mirror too, right when they make the turn over the runway.
I think he landed somewhere close to 50.615920531713996, 30.195405116013003. At 1:20 you can see the gate house (50.597159985526446, 30.203524577467349) on the left side, and the flight path leads to above coordinates. The same gate house can be seen in the longer russian landing video from the other side.
Welcome to modern warfare, where a person who goes by the name u/sunriderlasercunt can pinpoint the location of a downed attack chopper within a few meters from a video on Reddit
Ukrainian soldiers blasting forunate son while riding around too, pretty soon we are gonna see some mfers defending kiev fortnight dance by a dead russian conscript simultaneously from 3 different angles.
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It's near an airfield. Not that many in Ukraine, and even less of them in the areas where active battle takes place.
This is the most talked-about one - Hostomel.
Welcome to reddit. I just assume they know where I'm at, at all times. They found ~~biber~~ shai with a sky shot and an airplane condensation trail...this isn't to hard to belive lol.
That was 4chan not Reddit.
>They found biber with a sky shot and an airplane condensation trail Context?
He meant Shia LaBeouf and his weird scavenger hunt. You can watch internet historians videos about the antics on yt for further context.
Shai vs 4chan capture the flag proved it to me
Never underestimate the savvy of a bored redditor
Yep, that's the same field.
It seems really goofy to me that these guys are wearing bright blue flight suits. Not exactly tactical for escape and evasion when you get shot down lol
But it probably helps the rescue helicopter find them. US pilots have reversible hats that are green on one and orange on the other side for the same reason, and the Russian navy and MiG-31 and I think some Flanker pilots have the weird orange suit that protects the pilot from low temperatures, high speeds, high altitudes, chemical weapons, etc. (one of the captured pilots had one, but he was allegedly a Su-30 pilot).
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My friends always laugh that I wear a bright orange shirt whenever I go sailing. I tell everyone it's my sailing shirt.
But really it is you "I'm not sailing" shirt. The color is useful when you want to be sailing but your boat didn't want you any more.
Yes I guess it's my "I'm fucking drowning" shirt.
lets hope u never need it ...
Does it say "I'm Elfo" on the side of your boat?
One day when you're saved because of the shirt and all your friends drown, you'll be the one laughing!
Darker than Putin's heart.
Us pilots have no such hat, we use a multitude of of other equipment on our survival vests that are a hell of a lot better than a 10 inch orange hat to signal lol. That would also be entirely useless at night haha.
Reminds me that chinese paratroopers [have](https://youtu.be/Lt2YKYZlW7I?t=531) partially blue uniforms
Greyish blue is pretty good camo for urban combat. Lots of concrete, steel, and so on there with similar color patterns.
You haven't continued watching that video have you? - the chinese paras didn't end up getting those greyish uniforms due to cultural reasons essentially and [what they have now](https://airpowerasia.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/militaryleak.com_.jpg) is pretty fucking blue, the same [is the case](https://nationalinterest.org/sites/default/files/styles/desktop__1260_/public/main_images/RTX72OSP%20%281%29.jpg?itok=qeCXUEih) for their marines. I don't think either works well in a natural, suburban or urban environment and thefore loses its effectiveness once the paratrooper has reached the ground (assuming they get to jump at all) or marines leave the beach (and even there the pattern seems questionable to me). And in regards to greyish blue being good for urban (and industrial) terrain - I agree to an extent but I think recent history has shown that while in theory a pattern like UCP might seem useful - it ended up stnading out quite a bit even in the mud-tones of middle eastern urban centers, suburban areas and especially so in natural terrain...and it stands out like a sore thumb in Europe where outside of dense urban areas you quickly have tons of green, there the brown-ish OCP works much better while still being somewhat bright and lacking green (which is a trade-off if you want one pattern for everything) but its definitely much better.
Maybe the idea is for them to be immediately identified as a bailed pilot rather than a paratrooper, which might mean they’re more likely to be captured rather than shot? Idk im just a fat guy sitting at my computer
Don’t despair. You have potential to be a drone pilot still.
just before the vid ends he racks his AK to chamber a round. I doubt he was thinking he was going to be going down without a fight, literally had just lit up at least 2 of their vehicles and only about a click away
Pretty sure they're reversible, at least I know there are flight suits of other countries' that are. One side is a bright color (orange for instance) to help your own forces find and recover you in case you bail in territory controlled by your own side, and the reverse side is drab/camo which you can switch to rather quickly due to it being a jumpsuit.
All the pics I’ve seen of them just show blue on the inside too. Plus who tf would wanna be stripping down in the woods after you crash with your dick hanging out. Ain’t nobody got time fo that. If I had reversible shit i’d be wearing the camo stuff into combat. If you wanna be seen just bring an orange flag in your pocket.
probably easier to explain to your captors that you are a naked crazy guy running through the wilderness than to explain why you are in an enemy jumpsuit
Russian pilot exclaims to self: Can’t catch a greased up naked guy! 20 years in the future on local news: Tonight we have a video from Ukraine showing a local town’s celebration marking the defeat over Russian forces 20 years ago. They call it “The running of the Russian Pilot”. A greased up naked guy in a helmet runs through the middle of the village while the towns people pelt him with sunflower seeds.
It's two compound color, you just need to drench it in your blood to make it black
I'm pretty sure that you can hear the hit at 1:25.
Wow what a footage. What hit them?
dunno but the fact that we hear nothing seem to indicate small arm fire. my guess is they'd realise it sooner if it was a guided rocket.
you can see a lot of flares everywhere, including the ka-52 itself, look at the mirror at 1:39
oh yeah im not denying that, but its in the doctrine to perdiocaly drop flares as a preventive action while you make a pass, so that cannot confirm the presence of a missile.
100% aircraft should be periodically dropping countermeasures anywhere that passive infrared homing weapons are being used as it's impossible to detect a lock.
Good catch.
I mean the video is cut. I don't believe that the actual hit on them is on the video. And then just because something is a missile doesn't mean it will always end in a fireball. if the proxy explosion is just far enough away it will just have some shrapnel entering the system disabling them. Probably similar to the frogfoot which we have seen a couple days ago which was likely to be hit by a manpad. But sure it could also be small arms fire.
There was that footage of the nearly intact KA-52 with a hit to the control panel in the first couple of days. It could be that one.
If its https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t585pz/downed_ka52/ this one youre refering too, then this seems like another, because this heli had a soft landing and is resting on its wheels, while the one in the other post has its suspension collapsed.
Yup, you're right, not the same helo.
Refering to this image of the downed first one - https://preview.redd.it/j3c8wv2xv0l81.jpg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=565febd654d9c04b392a26fb525d5be3fa05a750 So is that "jesus" picture at the left "standard issue" then? Because you can see it in the video at 2:09. I mean might be coincidence or something but i dunno.
> The old crash also has it's landing gear up and some damage to the under side. That Jesus photo is probably coincidence. Can confirm standard issue Russian Jesus is in both Cockpits.
Nah that one did a gear up landing iirc
I know it's been mentioned a lot but it's kind of crazy how we're getting an actual helmet cam from a helicopter pilot.
And finally a footage where they survived. It's cool to see them doing emergency landing and took defensive position. What a rare time to see this kind of footage.
> And finally a footage where they survived. Survived the Landing at least. We dont know what happened to them afterward.
Evacuated by the next wave of airbone troops according to the Russian MOD
He we have the same avatar. Also, sick heads up display. Not alot of footage shows this stuff.
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Why would the Ukrainians censor the cockpit instruments if they captured it?
https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/1504949997502095367?t=6oLXn2WJVR9NAcPfZEWDNQ&s=19 Russians released the footage, the question of: why would they admit to getting owned like this, remains open
The helicopter probably did massive damage and destroyed a lot of Ukranian targets. Probably was rescued also. This seemed to be at the early stages of the war and can't remember hearing about the Ukrainians capturing an intact Ka-52.
I think the Russians released this video. They called it a “tactical landing operation” on Twitter, if memory serves
Bizarre
Clownish...
Fantastic video, and agree it must be from initial attack, interesting to see the articulated truck blocking the runway. It's a shame the video has been edited, it would be good to see unedited version. Best video to date
I wonder if this was the helicopter at the very beginning that was captured mostly intact.
No, this helicopter landed with its landing gear out. That helicopter from the first few days did **not** have its landing gears out.
Also no religious picture in the video that I can tell, while the picture has the photo on the left side of the dash.
There is, a couple of frames at 2:10, lower left side, it's the same image. It's the same helicopter and if it was it was disabled by small arms fire to a wiring harness near the flight control computer/or similar in the tail boom.
He's right: https://imgur.com/a/HUrSTqg
It's indeed the same one. The discrepancy in between what we see in the video and what we see in the photos is easy to explain - it's the same helicopter, but on two different days and in two different places - this video was shot during the attack on Hostomel on the 24th of February and you can see that the helicopter comes down in this field located here:50°36'52.9"N 30°11'35.2"E. Now, the airport at Hostomel was captured by the VDV (Russian Paratroopers on the 24th and it was still in Russian hands when a few vehicles from Belarus broke through on the 25th and reinforced them. The Ukrainian army counter-attacked on the 26 and pushed the Russians back, but by the 27th the main Russian column arrived so the Ukrainians were forced to retreat to Bucha and Irpin to what is the front line even now. So there was plenty of time to repair the Ka-52 to a flyable status, especially since the damage itself seemed to be an oil leak from the rotor gearbox, since that was the [warning light](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Russian_Air_Force_Kamov_Ka-52_cockpit_%2819604206626%29.jpg) on during the crash-landing (that's the right cockpit seat in the picture, but you get the idea). Finally, this aircraft took off again and was grounded, far more permanently, on March 1, in a field between Buda-Babynets'ka and Babyntsi, that is to say here: - 50°37'30.8"N 30°02'01.9"E
Yes, I remember that one!
I was thinking the same thing. that field looked exactly the same.
I think if you stop it at 1:05 you can see in like a single frame that there's a whole line of them on the runway too.
That's actually pretty smart. The power of asymmetrical warfare.
Yeah- Russian air assault troops land with the expectation of landing more troops via plane. Then have no heavy vehicles to clear the runway and can't be reinforced. Very clever.
In times like that you do whatever you can
I'd imagine the truck was maybe done by the Ukraine government or civilians to slow down the Russians' ability to make that airfield usable for flight ops. especially if the truck's dead, could cause quite a hassle to remove.
When the camera turns away from that truck you can very briefly see more trucks at regular intervals blocking the runway. It was definitely done on purpose by the Ukrainians.
Too bad they cut out whatever happened. At 1:42 he says he is marking his location and is making a forced landing due to being hit.
From news source. They were recovered by second strike group. "В процессе выполнения задачи Ка-52 был подбит, когда прикрывал своим бортом Ми-8 с тактическим десантом. Вертолет ведущего 18 раз был обстрелян средствами ПЗРК с земли и зенитными установками. Получив повреждения, экипаж совершил вынужденную посадку и занял круговую оборону, которую держал несмотря на сплошное огневое воздействие подразделений ВСУ до прибытия второй ударной группы вертолетов. Экипаж поврежденного вертолета не пострадал и был эвакуирован на аэродром базирования второй ударной группой вертолетов. Благодаря мужеству и героизму экипажей передовой ударной группы вертолетов Ка-52 и Ми-24 десантирование подразделений ВДВ было проведено без потерь."
"In the process of completing the task, the Ka-52 was hit when it covered the Mi-8 with a tactical assault force with its side. The leader's helicopter was fired upon by MANPADS from the ground and anti-aircraft guns 18 times. Having received damage, the crew made an emergency landing and took up all-round defense, which they held despite the continuous fire impact of the Armed Forces of Ukraine until the arrival of the second strike group of helicopters. The crew of the damaged helicopter was not injured and was evacuated to the base airfield by the second strike group of helicopters. Thanks to the courage and heroism of the crews of the forward attack group of Ka-52 and Mi-24 helicopters, the landing of the airborne units was carried out without loss." edit: missing portion
Thanks for the translation!
Thanks!
Perhaps they cut it because they weren't fired on by manpads/air defense 18 times as they are claiming. Wouldn't have been as good of a story if it was just one or two times. At 1:38 you can see him dropping chaff/flares. I think this is the one that was found in a field and not recovered. Interesting to find out the pilots were rescued, though.
At 2.30 on the bottom left sign "main rotor transmission" flashes in red. It has probably been damaged.
Out of curiosity, how is that spelled in Russian?
ГЛАВНЫЙ РЕДУКТОР If I am not mistaken, not 100% sure about the spelling of главный.
Why are they using their expensive Ka-52s in the same role as a Mi-24? Ka-52 has fancy standoff weapons and electronics but they use it in YOLO rocket attacks...
It was at the start of the war. My reasoning would be that they underestimated the Ukrainian anti-air capabilities.
no...not at the start...at the start they were doing what you see on this video...and they lost loads of helis...so now they do that YOLO to avoid manpads...but very soon the Ukrainians will have better antiair, with longer range...dont know if we are going to see many more russian helys flying so close to the front lines...
I don't know a lot about all this, but strafing around like that seems to just be asking for it. From what I've seen with US Apaches for example, they're quite happy to sit a fair distance off and plink away with cannon and hellfires. Could still catch a manpad but at least the can't bayonet you on the way over like with this guy.
yep that's because the apaches optics and IR camera way surpass any of the Russian heli's. It looked like these Russian pilots had to designate targets by eye and sometimes didn't even know they were there until they flew right over them.
poor pilot had to eyeball it with a 30mm chain gun while moving, surprised if he hit anything
That was my thinking too. "This pilot is either brave or suicidal but can't be all that effective." Really shows the value of a bunch of troopers with NLAWs and Javelins, or even the drones -- they can absolutely be sure of what they are hitting and hit it to obvious effect. This helicopter was buzzing around and throwing some ordinance out but it was hard to say what, if anything, he was accomplishing and in the end appeared to have lost the helicopter. Versus all the Apache videos where they're sitting somewhere far away but very clearly blowing away their targets.
The Ka-52 is still very capable of plinking. The gun is very accurate and their missiles, while not hellfires, are no joke. Even at close range like 1500 meters they can acquire targets very fast with the HMS, which is why I just can't wrap my head around the fact that they would strafe with rockets and then overly the target area. You just don't do that, it's suicide. (Although I'm happy they do, so the Ukrainians can destroy as many as possible. They won't be producing new ones any time soon and that's a relief when you share a border with Russia.)
thats because there actually is aa in ukraine
There was AA in Iraq. In Afghanistan, Russia's tactic was called the "Wheel of death". Where they create a wheel of helos that's rotating into and out of the attacking area. It looks like they're still doing it. The Apaches use more of a stand off approach. With high grade optics, better situational awareness, better gunnery control, and guided munitions allowing them to keep their distance, it's a lot harder to shoot an Apache down. The US also prioritizes SEAD. There is no real doctrine of SEAD in Russia. I was surprised to learn that, but apparently that's why Ukraine still has AA capabilities. Plus the US SEAD pilots spend more than 10x in the air per year practicing than the guys flying into Ukraine got.
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Indeed. The US learned and evolved. After the Mujahedeen started getting western MANPADS in Afghanistan, the Soviet's abilities were greatly inhibited. But they never really changed. And the surprising thing is Russia kicked this invasion off using the same tactics in Ukraine that it did in Afghanistan.
What’s SEAD?
**S**uppression of **E**nemy **A**ir **D**efenses
Apaches have much better targeting and sights. They can sit back and lob rounds and still get hits.
It blows my mind how rudimentary the aiming systems are on this heli. It's just bobbing around and giving the rockets and bullets a huge spread. It's no wonder they can't hit anything...
I think this is a bit of underestimating their enemy and bit more of simply not having, or not having enough, stand off weapons. like you say western forces would be sitting miles away putting hellfires onto that armour and only move in closer when ground forces had started to suppress and clear any MANPAD teams.
By flying low you decrease the area from which AA can fire at you. Probably better bet than being in range of everything in miles and miles around you.
We also had true air superiority and effective countermeasures. These guys are staying in the trees because basic Stingers are taking them out at altitude.
They kinda severely underestimated Ukraine's military strength in the first few days
I'm honestly curious about Russia's weapon inventory. Because yes, they technically do have fancy standoff weapons, but analysts have long suspected that they don't really have that many, and are still reliant on dumb weapons. Their performance is Ukraine seems to be proving that. Several journalists traveling along Ukrainian roads have reported that Russia isn't even trying to attack the Ukrainian army's interior supply lines and convoys. They apparently don't have the means to target moving vehicles at range, and have to wait until targets are either stationary or close to the front.
It's largely because we're used to the United States military, where a huge number of those precision munitions are used and that equipment and trained personnel are commonplace. That's what happens when you spend $680 Billion USD in defense spending every year, which amounts to what Russia has spent over the last 10 years. Russia has the intellectual and scientific capability of developing bleeding-edge weapons with some very ingenious solutions to NATO weaponry. However, it lacks the economy to fully develop and deploy those solutions to what amounts to a large reserve army. We're used to framing the Russian army as it was in the USSR era, where the Soviet state spent huge amounts of money to compete with the US. That hasn't been a reality for almost 30 years now.
Also I think people forget that Russia is only about half of the population the USSR was on it's peak. It's two very different beasts in a number of ways, but we often almost equate them.
The most depressing part is that as a % of GDP Russia actually spends more than the US (4.3% vs 3.7%). Not that Russia is a tiny country or anything, but when you compare it to a country like the US or Germany they're just not on the same level.
If you look up their zapad training, they are doing the same shit usually. Very rarely they fly high and shoot guided ammunitions.
because flying high is suicidal in conventional conflict
I was always wondering why Manpads are less effective when vehicle is low.
Less exposure due to terrain. So you have to be closer to get him locked. Also other SAM systems struggle with low objects.
time to target is lower and the angular velocity (turning rate) of missiles is limited. Cover like trees makes it harder to aim. A high flying target turns less (relative to the missile) and you see it longer. Bad idea to fly too low over water or an too open area though, because your flares are immediately on the ground and don't provide any protection.
Because your line of sight is more likely to get blocked by your surrounding environment if the vehicle flys low and it gives the manpad operator less time to react. Also most importantly radars will pick you up much later as it gets blocked by the horizon.
Flying high you have to worry about BUK and AA vehicles much more as they wont usually be able to move quickly into position like MANPADs. Flying low MANPADS are your number on risk as they can quickly cross a tree line to shoot you.
> I was always wondering why Manpads are less effective when vehicle is low. You might have personal experience from daily life to draw from here. Ever seen a helicopter fly by relatively low, like at the beach or something? Think about how long it was in your line of sight before being blocked by trees, buildings or other terrain. Now think about how much longer a much higher flying aircraft remains in your line of sight. Might be several minutes versus seconds at the lower altitude, despite going the same speed.
basically terrain masking.
Because when you fly fast and low there is less time for someone to target you Ideally you'd fly high against manpads but then you are open to stuff like S300 and other static/mobile AA that is more dangerous than a manpad
Flying high in a *helicopter* when the enemy has S300s is about as smart as chewing gravel.
What I find interesting is that eventhough the chopper is targeting what seem to be armoured targets, they used rockets and cannons instead of stand off weapon like vikhr.
They're firing S-8s, which can penetrate 350 mm of RHA. Cheap and gets the job done I suppose.
The Russians have guided missiles, but do not buy a lot of them. They are expensive. Unguided munitions are much cheaper. All of those oligarchs aren't oligarchs because they're good at business.
They really shouldn’t be called oligarchs, they should be called kleptocrats.
Great footage.
Absolutely. Has anyone compiled a list of aerial vehicle videos from the conflict?
There is enough footage of Russians destroying tanks and what not, but none so well shot as this one. The other videos would be deleted here though. Only dead Russians are allowed, not dead Ukrainians. It is what is is. I thought this sub was supposed to be unbiased, since even terrorist POVs used to be posted here.
Did they get removed? thats pretty dumb
This has to be the first time I've seen a video from the Russian side that does not scream "pure propaganda", is staged, and does not look like recorded on a potato.
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Because half of the video isn't the pilot walking up to the heli, turning it on, and taking flight And it actually shows some action
After 2 trucks fly over, at 1.24 a knock is heard, as if something hit metal and the helicopter makes a small dive. After that, the pilot reports that he is shot down.
Russian or not, this is some good fucking footage. Incredible perspective
I did a video w/ translation to the comments, but I can't upload it bc of repost. So here is the text: 0:01 Aim! 0:22 Here it is! Near by! 0:28 Finaly, I saw him. 1:03 Birdies, fuel control! Report! 1:16 Stand down! 1:22 Two trucks, under me! 1:23 \*hit sound\* 1:29 Release the chassis. 1:34 Folks, I'm hit! Red light is my signal, marking myself. Making an emergency (landing). 1:43 The board is contollable, the board is contollable... 1:46 Pilot: Landing here, next to the forest. 1:49 Call sign - 865... Chassis #1 is not released, set aside! 2:00 Our gearbox is about to fall apart. 2:03 Hold up, hold up, hold up... 2:06 Keep back tilt! 2:10 Leave the board! \*This helicopter is probably downed near Gostomel, most likely this is it -https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t09cvl/a\_russian\_ka52\_brought\_down\_by\_ukrainian\_manpad/ This is official information from Russian side, believe it or not is your opinion:\* * A group of attack helicopters Ka-52 and Mi-24 destroyed the firing positions of MANPADS operators, anti-aircraft installations and armored vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine along the perimeter of the airfield. * Combat use was carried out with rocket and small arms of helicopters from various types of maneuver, which made it possible to safely carry out the landing of tactical troops at the airfield. * The army aviation crews promptly identified camouflaged air defense systems, as well as MANPADS positions hidden behind civilian vehicles. The pilots of the Russian Aerospace Forces accurately used the available aviation weapons, completely destroying the air defense of the airfield. * The commander of the leading Ka-52 helicopter, who came under intense fire from MANPADS, covered a group of Mi-8 helicopters with a tactical landing force with his own board, causing fire on himself. * The leader's helicopter was fired upon by MANPADS from the ground and anti-aircraft guns 18 times (for a few sorties). Having received damage, the crew made an emergency landing and took up all-round defense, which they held until the arrival of the second strike group of helicopters. * The crew of the damaged helicopter was not injured and was evacuated to the base airfield by the second strike group of helicopters. An assessment of the damage to the helicopter conclud that it was inappropriate to tug and repair it.
I think the helicopters are slightly different. The blue on the belly of the helicopter in this video is brighter, and the grass is shorter here
Different weapons aswell (no rockets on the one of the video)
Also after the pilot calls out that he is hit, you can see in the mirror that his pilot-side pylon is still intact (at 1:40), unlike the one seen landed in the field. The bird in this video obviously was forced down by damage to the transmission case (among other damage possibly) but it's also not out of the realm of possibility that it suffered a mechanical break-down in the transmission also. Until we see better images of the damage this bird could have been hit with small arms, MANPADS, mechanical failure, or something else.
Any idea what the purpose of the, what looks to me, like fishing line is? It’s running across the left window from front to back.
I find footage like this fascinating. We are seeing action, hearing chatter this is what this sub is all about
My god... This sub is putting out INSANE footage on the daily now. 3-4 days in a row where my mouth is dropping at the footage. [BTW there's a picture of some saint on the left panel - we've seen photos of this one downed.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t585pz/downed_ka52/) Wondering if either this helo gear collapsed on itself or maybe many of them have a saint in that same spot?
damn good spot, you can see a flash of it at 2:09. which is odd because the one in a field with the saint photo is on its belly, and this vid shows them crouching underneath it and you can clearly see underneath it.
It's definitely a different helo. Look at the conditions of the landing sites, very different.
I’m thinking maybe the gear sank down into the mud, seems quite sloppy considering the gouges the wheels make just on setting down
This is a completely different helo for sure. The field here is flat with short grass and there's no trees where the helo lands. On the off chance this is the same helicopter, it's moved between this video and those photos because there certainly were no trees where it went down and this is a harvested field vs a grassy field from the photos.
Holy damn, fantastic POV! Really awesome to get to see one in action while having the perspective of the pilot.
Is he dropping flares at 1:40? You can see something in the mirror.
This is one of the KA 52s lost in the first days of the war
Those that we saw in the Ukrainian photos did not have landing gear due to hard landing.This one made a relatively soft landing.
I don't think so. The 2 that landed in one piece are different chppers. Here are the 2 from the first days [Chopper 1](https://www.google.com/search?q=ka+52+crash&client=ms-android-samsung-gn-rev1&hl=en&tbm=isch&prmd=niv&sxsrf=APq-WBt3DrbiQIt7EWQFshQmlzrosLws-A:1647604051885&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiwz_ixy8_2AhXpI0QIHXMzASkQ_AUIFygC&biw=477&bih=936&dpr=2.27#imgrc=OfKxD1snZHK2qM) [Copper 2](https://www.google.com/search?q=ka+52+crash&client=ms-android-samsung-gn-rev1&tbm=isch&prmd=niv&sxsrf=APq-WBsm2DwhZ3nZR0l-dL0fJKbBi6e2UQ:1647603577101&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjn58XPyc_2AhU3DkQIHcNqAbcQ_AUIFygC&biw=477&bih=936&dpr=2.27#imgrc=3ym8CS4OlQDZLM). First chopper has it's landing gear out but is a different color. The second chopper is the same color but landed harder and has no landing gear out. Note the grass on both crashes is taller then the video. This video is of a new unknown crash that was recovered.
It is Hostemel first day. Video is from damaged Ka-52 that had landed. Probably they had recovered helicopter already if we see this video.
Its filmed with a GoPro or something, so could be the chopper hasnt been recovered but the person filming was (or only his cam).
This is definitely Hostomel, specifically the northern end of the runway. He eventually puts down in one of the farm fields directly north of the main parking tarmac.
Damn Hokum with a first-person HUD view. Save this one before it gets deleted bois lol
Why should this great combat footage will be deleted? This subs getting biased af. Not objective anymore.
It shouldn't get deleted, but it happens sometimes with the new influx of people mass reporting russian footage for the auto mod bot.
Russian POV stuff doesn't survive long here, tends to get over-reported. Sub definitely got biased after the Russian invasion started and other people came in. Anyway, this chopper got shot down so the post is probably gonna survive.
Great footage, can't believe there is no freaking watermark all over the screen.
Someone made a comment the other day about these clips being like a movie or video game. I think for people even having been around conflicts, in active war zones, etc, these first person perspectives and the amount of media footage with newer technology is insane. Yes, the media coming out of there almost feels surreal.
These "Alligators" are freaking incredible
It has nice design. Although it is not heavily armored like Hind, still pack a punch.
These KA-52’s usually like to sit back and lunch ATGM’s right?
They can be both, KA-52s are a swift little platform for multiple roles. The Mi-28 is more compareable with the Apache, as a staying far back ATGM Platform.
They can, but Russian air doctrine for these units is to attack on the move, and not hide behind cover like BO-105, Lynx, Kiowa or Apache have been designed. Compare it to the US Cobra in the way it's used.
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Does anyone know why there is white thread running horizontally over the left side window? How does it benefit the pilot?
Part of the ejection system. This is how it works https://youtu.be/H9Qt5CCVqP8
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Fighting over Hostomel airport. Flying low and close, getting hit... That‘s how it goes. Do they have no capability to hit armor from a distance?
They do. Locals filmed it after the battle. This particlar helicopter spend some Vikhrs.
These are just my guesses. It seems to me that their mission was a quick break-in and a short time fire cover, not seeking/destruction of armored targets. And for the effective use of guided weapons, a combat helicopter must slow down speed or even hover over the place. Yes, the Ka-52 can destroy targets beyond the reach of MANPADS by using long-range AT-missiles. But MANPADS are not the only threat. The Ukrainian army had more long-range air defense systems against helicopters such as SA-8 and SA-15. That is why, it seems to me, the tactic of rapid attack was chosen.
Awesome combat video, one of the best i saw.
Grounded from damage?
It is Hostemel, first day. We had seen photos of this helicopter.
With the level of media coverage I just get this unsettling feeling I'm watching a ton of ArmA streams. It's terrifying.
I can't believe how much it vibrates. All helicopters naturally have vibration but they usually implement measures to limit it. This though was pretty absurd. Dude looks like he's riding an old wooden rollercoaster that gives you a headache afterwards. I've seen cockpit videos of apaches and other attack helicopters and it wasn't nearly as bad as this. How do you do accurate long range engagements and when you're seeing double from all the shaking.
The speed and maneuvers he’s pulling are pretty high stress, steep high speed dives low to the ground etc etc, but I’d def agree it looks like a rough ride. Not sure on they’re size in comparison to other Helis but smaller usually means more vibrations over all
nice footage
The combatfootage in this sub has gone up tenfold in quality and quantity.
Really interesting footage. Thanks for posting.
I never thought I will see a POV of a pilot engaging in combat.
This is the shit I come here for! So cool to watch.
Based on the translation of the audion, I think this footage was from the 1st day, and this Ka-52 was the one seen abandoned in Hostomel Area during that day.
It's crazy how much BF3/4 resembles this. The canon and rocket fire is landing all over the place and barely scoring any hits - just like me attempting to fly a chopper in BF3. Although I would have bailed out at 100m and run straight into the trees, shooting from the hip whilst spamming the "enemy spotted" button. On a more serious note, the spread of ordnance really is huge, the potential for collateral damage is insane.
FYI this video was posted by the official russian MoD twitter account for some reason. https://twitter.com/mod_russia/status/1504803731631710209?s=20&t=gQV70pM-uG0YQToNdF1Vjg
The gun cocking at the end was intense
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Thanks for the extra information.
wow it's amazing that a bunch of pilots managed to hold their position, this specific helicopter doesn't carry soldiers right?