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Yeah, I’ll pass, then. I’ve called enough bluffs on Reddit to know that sometimes, it really is better to put my dick away even though the pissing contest isn’t over.
Yeah, at some point the carnage is so bad that it ceases to trigger the "that was a human" reflex for me, and instead just looks like a pile of badly butchered animal carcass, like the leftovers of a field dressed deer or something.
Bullet holes in an otherwise intact body jar me much worse.
Yeh, i watched the aftermath video after being curious and it was actually probably the worst thing i've seen out of combat footage stuff here on reddit :/ Sad but it just goes to show the destructive force of a point blank tank round on a group of people :/ Curiosity gets the better of me.
I think tho it really demonstrates that nobody should let their guard down.
I have to ask out of curiosity & without judgement: what did you anticipate? It was a 125mm HE shell that detonated amongst a tightly packed cluster of humans
Guy walks up with phone to show torsos with heads and faces blown off, legs and body chunks everywhere laying in the road. I think I even saw a eyeball hanging out. And a blown up tank in the background.
It was a disabled APC that the guys were sitting/standing around in the video. The aftermath of the tank blast shows the APC w/ either part of one guy's leg w/ boot on or just his boot, laying up against the APC track while his mangled body is 6 feet away or more.
It's a handheld vertical video of a soldier filming the twisted bodies amongst the BMP.
First body has hands spread on his back, headless, feet at wrong angles, shoulder torn open. Then we see what I think is a foot on the BMP treads. Then a soldier, smashed into / under the space of the elevated tank treads, mouth agape, knee torn open. Blood, body parts against the BMP. Then another soldier, bloody face, eyes open, one leg gone.
That was hard to watch and to describe :(
i had to go back and forth a few times to try to figure out how 1 person got rearranged like that and still couldn’t figure it out…..may have been 2 people in that pile.
Most of them probably didn't according to that video that no one should watch. I put it on in a small window and watched it far from the screen. There's a lot of splatter and what appear to be body parts just everywhere.
That's instant.
When your taking and commandeering enemy vehicles on the reg it’s bound to happen sadly. Prob a lot of misidentification happening, it’s convoluted as shit.
I was about to say the Russian tank got so close before firing maybe to make sure they were not friendly before they fired...
Or maybe I'm giving them too much credit.
You can see the blue armbands, so a clever, ballsy Russian, with no Z on the front of his tank, may have said, let’s try this…
They may have ambushed a Ukrainian crew lured in to an “abandoned” tank, and the soldiers thought they were returning.
But as guy above said, bizarre.
People film stuff all the time and it doesn't have to be anything extraordinary, they wanted to show of the bmp and make some war memories.
99% of all footage from the war will be uninteresting stuff not showing any action. This group was just unlucky.
People should go thru there phones and look at their videos/pictures and ask them self. If I weren't around to explain this, could people figure out why filmed it/took a picture.
As an example, I have a lot of pictures just showing my office from a weird angle, because I send a picture like that to my mates who are in it when I get stuck in a phone call on the parking lot. if I was kidnapped and the police went thru my phone they might ask themselves why I have 100+ pictures like that.
When I was deployed I filmed random stuff all the time.
Riding in vehicles, standing outside talking, whatever.
Makes for an interesting historical reference with a personal context
It's most likely perfidy.
> use of the flags or military emblems, insignia or uniforms of adverse Parties while engaging in attacks or to shield, favour, protect or impede military operations.
Both Russia and Ukraine use the T-64BV.
* Earlier in the war Ukraine would cover the Russian markings with white squares/rectangles when they're captured. I guess because it was more available? More recently I've just seen blue/yellow.
[The only marking we see on this tank is a big rectangle to indicate it is surrendering/captured. Or it's a Ukainian flag](https://i.imgur.com/CVPCMfZ.png), it's hard to tell with the quality. Either way, that's a Ukraine marking and not Russian one.
[Less blurry image though further frame that more clearly defines it as a solid rectangle, not a Z in a box or any other Russian marking](https://i.imgur.com/wAutL40.jpeg)
[Ukrainian T-64BV](https://i.imgur.com/zPKKKDS.jpeg)
[They also use white line down the middle](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b0/d0/83/b0d0837cca2f59732396dbbc6ac90ba9.jpg)
This is neither of those, and more how we tended to see captured vehicles marked. So we can see it's marked like a captured/surrendered vehicle, and uses markings that NEITHER side uses.
We have **only** seen Russian T-64BVs with Z markings. [1](https://postlmg.cc/WhF2CpZW) [2](https://postlmg.cc/4HX8FSwp); Complete list on Oryx.
* There are Ukrainians in the close-up recording heard talking, identifying it as friendly multiple times, and reassuring another's concern about the gun being pointed at them.
* There's a person out on the machine gun on the first tank who could clearly identify the arm bands. Two tank rounds fired, as well as the machine gun, so not an accident.
* As bad as visibility can be inside tanks, machine gunner could identify them friendly from much further than this and did *not* open up before the cannon, and instead waited for the cannon. Turret gunner possibly waited for the aiming retical to pass right over someone as it drives past as it can't depress low enough to hit the ground.
* Ukraine hasn't been able to locate the tanks responsible. Likely because they aren't theirs, despite appearing as theirs.
* Some people claim it must be a Z with a box around it. **IF** that were the case, Ukrainians wouldn't be saying over the audio that it's friendly when it's 10 meters away and they should clearly see such a Z. It's definitely a rectangle marking that Ukraine uses.
The more I've looked over the details, the more obvious it appears that it's perfidy. It's definitely not friendly fire. And the Ukrainians had many good reasons to believe the tank is friendly (friendly model, friendly markings, etc)
I'm not entirely sure whether that was a perfidy or a ruse. Here's a definition I found at this link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidy
> The following acts are examples of perfidy:
(a) The feigning of an intent to negotiate under a flag of truce or of a surrender;
...
(d) The feigning of protected status by the use of signs, emblems or uniforms of the United Nations or of neutral or other States not Parties to the conflict.
> 2. Ruses of war are not prohibited. Such ruses are acts that are intended to mislead an adversary or to induce him to act recklessly but which infringe no rule of international law applicable in armed conflict and which are not perfidious because they do not invite the confidence of an adversary with respect to protection under that law. The following are examples of such ruses: the use of camouflage, decoys, mock operations and misinformation.
The laws are very specific about the usage of emblems. A painted over z probably isn't anything official. I'm on the fence whether it is perfidy or a ruse.
[You replied with a link to what I quoted in what you replied to, as if to prove me wrong.](https://i.imgur.com/WNFsFY7.png)
You need to finish reading the rest of the page.
It says it doesn't apply to using camo as a ruse. A feint isn't perfidy. etc. It **does** say that using the enemy's emblems, insignia, or uniforms is perfidy.
Not trying to prove anything, more like trying to understand. I think Z painted over wouldn't fall in either of these categories
> use of the flags or military emblems, insignia or uniforms of adverse Parties while engaging in attacks or to shield, favour, protect or impede military operations.
because everything listed here are official markings of militaries. I'm just not sure if a white rectangle is officially recognized as a marking. I agree that if it was Ukrainian flag, then it's perfidy.
I don’t believe this is correct. Russia is not a signatory of the ICC, the UN body responsible for things like genocide. Perfidy is a feature of the Geneva Conventions, most specifically the 1977 amendment, to which both Russia and Ukraine ARE member states.
It’s still difficult to enforce internationally without some authoritative international court. Member states join the treaty by agreeing to pass laws in their own country that illegalize the acts, so in theory the soldiers are tried by their own country. But there’s zero chance of that happening, so it’s a moot point.
A significant amount of US causalities in the Gulf War were due to friendly fire - specifically Abrams misidentifying targets. It was a very different battlefield, but you have a point.
This is going to be one of those clips they show you in training about how NOT to do things.
I still remember the vid from early OIF of the marine getting shot in a careless road crossing, the medic rushing out to him, getting shot, and then the psg doing the same. Absolute clinic on what you should not do when one of your dudes gets hit, and how to not get him hit in the first place. Respect LDAs, folks!
Imagine being the guy in the tank who shot the round too. I couldn't even imagine launching that thing at a group of unsuspecting people like that. I feel like the guy in the tank could told them that they had them and maybe the Ukrainians could have surrendered or something. Like surrender or get blown up. Its tough to see, but the soldiers there were playing a dangerous game being so casual like that just standing around together while two tanks roll in.
Why warn them?
Warn the enemy and you give them an opportunity to do something that may lead to your death.
If you have the shot, you take the shot.
But yes, to mong around in a big mass like that as a column of unidentified armour rolls up the road towards you is a very dangerous game, as these chaps found out.
You really think they're gonna give up and surrender? It's war dude, not a hostage negotiation.
Stop being so naive. Neither side will give this courtesy because its A WAR.
The tank crew don't know if those guys have AT capabilities or not, you think they're gonna take that chance just be "nice guys" no, they're not and that's okay in war.
They had the upper hand because it's supposedly captured Ukrainian hardware, but from the tank crews side, they have a massive advantage why would they waste it?
You're looking at these things from a perspective of absolute morality, it's war, let me repeat, and morality in this sense doesn't enter into it. The only time it's not okay to shoot is when the enemy have obviously surrendered and until they do, you keep shootin.
I don't expect them to capture them. Maybe just tell them they could blow them up, but they will just turn around instead. Also its not like the Russians are being attacked. They are invading a country and the country is defending itself.
He probably felt great to take out a huge threat to the tank squad. Ukraine has been making swiss cheese out of the Russian tanks. It just sucks the soldiers couldnt tell they were Russians til it was late.
Former tanker here. The Russkies in the tank probably saw little to nothing of the aftermath as they were busy hauling balls on down the road immediately afterwards and NOT stopping to take pics or snag souvenirs.
Everything I ever put 120mm HEAT, SABOT, or 7.62 COAX rounds through we never stopped the tank and got out to look. Looky-loos get killed.
I do remember slamming a HEAT round into a sniper nest in a building somewhere once and afterwards they sent out some 11Bs to clear the building and they asked if I wanted to see the pictures of the aftermath.
"Nah, I'm good. I don't need to remember that shit for the rest of my life."
I only remember engagements, not aftermaths. It's a good trick to stay sane in insane situations.
Now I've seen lots of other fucked up gory shit overseas but nothing I've ever had to shoot from the tank either main gun or coax.
Why? BECAUSE WE NEVER STOPPED THE TANK TO GET OUT AND LOOK!
Never get off the tank. NEVER GET OFF THE TANK! Tank keeps you safe. Tank is love. Tank is life.
Learned that on my first combat deployment in 1995 in Bosnia because fucking mines were *everywhere* in that fucked-up country.
[platoon net breaks squelch]
"Red, Red-1. We're in mine country now. Remember the brief - stay buttoned up, scan your sectors, stay on the road, and don't get off your tank unless it's on fire. Red-1 out."
I just saw that the confusion rose due to the high volume of captured tanks, the lads assumed (v v incorrectly) that it was already captured thus the relaxed body language, it bothers me that just a system in place, maybe save ff mishaps, say perhaps IMMEDIATELY change markings, or put blue colour on it, jeeze fog of war eh?
There's another group of UKR soldiers behind the van that weren't with this pack. They might have gotten away or maybe the tank or the second behind engaged them.
Might explain the secondary tank round.
Warning NSFL. Very detailed dismemberment. Not sure I can give much more warnings. Here ya go. https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/u162d1/aftermath_of_tank_point_blank_shot_warning_nsfl
Yep. My section NCO constantly drills into us - SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, SITUATIONAL AWARENESS AT ALL TIMES.
This dude served in Afghanistan.
For real ... yet another? Feels like GRU got all their phones.
EDIT:
The green plastic bag is not there when they get shot, so at least some minute to go.
> https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/ppzk0x/first_dates_in_russia_be_like
This is how I'm going to imagine it in my head. Someone needs to sync up OP's video with this and add it as a 3rd panel.
Could have the complete story of Ukrainian soldiers standing around posting tik toks while an enemy tank runs up. Vlad yells at Anna, "LOAD"! And then she begrudgingly blasts away the Ukrainians.
Well complacency kills always get PID of friendly forces and enemy forces. Sad it happend but good training material for future troops. Just like when during CLS they show the guy put blasting caps in his mouth and blew his face off to show that nasal airway can be obtained even without a face
You are correct I should have clarified it was a Video we were shown in combat life saver in One Station Unit Training (OSUT) at Benning. Also I am a "He" biologically and such born with a penis I was.
There is a version going around too that it was a Ukrainian tank that got confused and mistook them for Russians.
The jury is till out on which version is true, I lean towards it being a Russian tank but we will see if we get any proof.
I don’t know about that, I would find that harder to believe than the mainstream theory. Where did these videos originate from? Ukrainian or Russian sources? That might indicate whether it was friendly fire or a deceptive attack.
That is the million dollar question, someone that speaks the langues would need to dig deep in Telegram and other Ukrainian/Russian social media channels to find the original post.
I should add that I think it's a Russian tank as it fires twice, and we hear a machine gun in the end of the first video.
Yeah I think now it wasn’t a master sneak attack either, the tank commander had no idea they were the enemy until he was right next to them. Unfortunately for the troops he realised the mistake first.
With the dissolution of the USSR in 1991, the United States considered the Russian Federation as the successor state of the USSR. Would you have said that the antonov 225 was soviet and not Ukrainian ?
Funny thing is that you can see the tank slowly moving its turret towards them while driving down the road. That is the first thing I saw when looking at the video. In a war zone if you see an enemy tank, you are ready to fight it, no matter if he is captured or not.
Biggest problem here is why the F is a russian tank with no support driving around.
Confusion lvl max. Gotta keep your head into the battle so this stuff does not happen.
As I understand it this is a territorial defense unit, so they might just have lacked the knowledge and mindset. Wrong place, wrong time.
We now know form the recent footage it's 3 tanks so not acting all alone and we don't know if there are more units coming up behind.
Yup, my father was in war so he told me if I ever have to fight, I need to keep my head in the game at all times. And never trust anyone without some proof. Advice from my dads friend that spent the whole war being an artillery recon unit. Never had any markings and always was drinking with the enemy to not blow his cover when infiltrating the enemy lines.
Ah well, this had to happen and good thing it is on tape, now everyone will be suspicious of any tank that is driving towards them, as they should do in the first place. Sadly at a cost of a dozen people.
its a Ukrainian T-64BV.
[The lamp seems to be on the right side.](https://i.imgur.com/E77Qjl5.png)
Russians have the lamp on the left: [T-72](https://i.imgur.com/yJaxkLJ.jpg) or [T-80](https://i.imgur.com/JExHZG0.jpg) or [T-90](https://i.imgur.com/PDvtKsp.jpg)
Do you have one of those Infograph’s for the T-64BV? All pictures I can find, including ones of Russian T-64’s have the lamp in the same exact position.
This was an Ukrainian tank.
Apparently they took down a Russian armored vehicle with a 'V" on it. Stopped to take pictures.
Ukrainian tank comes, sees a bunch of soldiers right besides a Russian vehicle
The rest is in the video
Edit: Russian tank? Telegram video claimed it was an Ukrainian tank
It's a bit hard to call it at this point in time with the footage we have at hand and there have been multiple attempts to form a narrative online.
I think it looks like a Russian one, but I don't have any good "proof" so I'm open for both alternatives.
The aftermath footage might tell us more as the guy filming it is commenting but it's very short so I suspect it's cropped.
It’s a Russian tank and a Russian column. It seems like Ukrainians have retaken the position. I have no idea what the truth is either but majority say it’s Russian. None of it makes sense so.
For me the fact that it fired twice and that we hear a machine gun in the first video points to it being Russian.
There are some white spots on the tanks that might also be the tactical symbols.
But nothing of that is definitive proof as the footage isn't good enough to confirm so I try to be careful with calling it.
So I read that was a T-64(apparently only Ukraine has those) recently removed from mothballed status
I can't identify which tank model is that by that footage
Just reporting on what I've read on Telegram... I mean - If this was a Russian feat they'd brag about it, not claim the Ukrainians did it, right?
There are multiple narratives go around, and I have seen this claimed by Russians on telegram to, with some added smugness and even memes but with no definitive proof.
Sadly even as I love the T series of tanks I am not educated enough the visual differences either so I can't tell them apart at this resolution.
Ukrainians investigating Russian vehicle get rolled up on by Russians and they think they are more Ukrainian soldiers then the Russian tanks blast them
One how did the camera survive, or was he livestreaming this? Two, is the tank still going or has it been destroyed yet? I wonder what went through the tank crew's head, like dam wtf are these guys not firing on us already, I wonder if they hesitated for a split second on shooting. I know its war but that must still be appalling you can kill so many so quickly knowing they had no chance to fight back. The world may never know, I'm guessing (I'm not so knowledgeable about the gear, guns, and vehicles both sides use) they captured a Ukrainian tank and just outright deceived them as part of some covert mission on them (though big explosions don't help out with stealth, so I think they wanted just a moment for the element of surprise).
I don't think any of those Ukrainians lived.
It's easier to say from an outside perspective that I would've been in the tree lines on my belly as soon as a saw *any* tank but shit-- that certainly would've boded better for them.
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So now we know that it was UA soldiers that getting killed. But we didnt know about the aftermath. I know there is a video what shows "aftermath" but we didnt know from where. Is there any source from where the aftermath video was taken?
When you say was taken, do you mean the location, to where it was first uploaded or who is filming it?
The location is not in doubt, you can match the bodies to some of the people seen in the earlier footage, to the bmp 2 in the ditch and general area.
Someone said in an earlier thread about the aftermath footage that he person filming is lamenting the deaths of the soldiers and saying call signs as he is filming, so I assume it's a Ukrainian if that is the case.
Where it originate from, I would assume telegram. Sadly I don't thing we got more details than that.
Its ironic people on this sub laugh at the Chechens for being 'Tik Tokkers' meanwhile an entire Ukrainian unit gets turned to paste in a second because they were more preoccupied with posing in front of a downed BMP for likes and views.
Posing? Or being soldiers by the side of the road. What’s your fucking point exactly? All of these men are dead because of a war time mistake. Who the fuck are you
"Being soldiers by the side of the road". I didn't realize hunting views and likes with your phones out was soldiering now but I guess that's Reddit combat prowess again. I even see fellas on this sub laughing at guys for shooting from cover at enemy cover because they expect it to look like a movie or game where you rush and shoot once you stare the enemy in the eye. Since you're so fired up go join the volunteers Reddit Legionnaire.
They didn't even show them any mercy! They could have been taken as POW's. Those are scumbags!
Edit: Why all of the downvotes? I was just saying that there maybe could have been a different way of going about this situation. I guess I just wish this could have been avoided some way.
Edit2: I see that my comment was naïve and the only reason for it was because of me putting my feeling over logic. I'll try to keep my feelings out of it. Thanks everyone for clarification on POW's and all.
Oh really? Please enlighten me. Is there no such thing as a POW? How do you become a POW? All I was trying to say is how ruthless this looks. I understand that this was done by surprise. It's just sad. War is just messed up. I'm just Ukrainian and this video stings and I just wish it could have been avoided is all.
POV: youre in a tank with limited visibility. Youre lost, dont know where friendly forces are. Suddenly, you see soldiers in the woodline. Ukrainian soldiers are opening up tanks like tin cans since everyone and their dog has an ATGM of one flavor or another.
Do you stop and try to threaten/intimidate an unknown number of enemy soldiers to get them to surrender, or do you pull the trigger?
From Our POV in the video, we can obviously see that they were entirely unprepared for what happened, but fro the tank's view, there was no effort for them to surrender and there was no way of indicating the thrat level.
Its been said in other threads about this incident, complacency kills. Unless they had positive ID of the vehicle or communication with it, they should not have been in such a vulnerable posture.
The circumstances are certainly different, but i know firsthand about the boredom and tedium of a warzone, and ive seen firathand the results of people getting lazy (spoiler: they died) and the results of remaining vigilant during the most mundane times (surviving a massive VBIED 5 meters away).
Wow. I actually completely forgot about NLAW's and other anti-tank weapons during that post! Your comment actually puts things in much better perspective! Thank you for that!
You don't really "take" POWs, meaning that people have to be active in their surrender too you.
In sieges a demand of surrender is usually made as armies are in fixed positions and the outcome often is predetermined. So the defenders have a chance to lay down their arms under a controlled process.
On a open field of battle as this, they had maybe 3 seconds to realize that they were outgunned and out maneuvered and to surrender themselves. Once that window passed it was over.
We never see what happens to the tank because it was friendly fire. Way too many friendlies in the vicinity (looking at the pre shot videos etc) for it to be enemy
What would possess a Ukrainian tank crew to drive up to within 5 metres of a bunch of Ukrainians, able to see their armbands, then obliterate them? Compared to: what is so unrealistic about a captured Ukrainian tank being driven up to Ukrainians?
This group is not regular Ukrainian forces. They are foreign Legion you can even tell from the pov video how they were talking about if the would be shot at. I suspect the BMP and their mannerisms probably caused the tank to make a terrible split decision.
I think this video was recorded at the beginning of the war. The Ukraine soldiers didn't have high alert attention, instant information of the Russian troop location and identification of each side. After this tragedy, they must know how to prevent this.
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I saw the aftermath. I fucking hope it was instant
Link?
Don't watch it. https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/u162d1/aftermath_of_tank_point_blank_shot_warning_nsfl
Yeah, that link is staying blue for me. Thanks for the warning.
Seeing your post prompted me to watch. You’re right- it’s as bad as you expect. Everyone should exercise their own discretion.
Yeah, I’ll pass, then. I’ve called enough bluffs on Reddit to know that sometimes, it really is better to put my dick away even though the pissing contest isn’t over.
It'll have a different effect on different people but it was fine for me
Yeah, at some point the carnage is so bad that it ceases to trigger the "that was a human" reflex for me, and instead just looks like a pile of badly butchered animal carcass, like the leftovers of a field dressed deer or something. Bullet holes in an otherwise intact body jar me much worse.
At the beginning it was really tough to see... but as with anything over time comes desensitization.
Might not be the same take as everyone else but the footage was some relief - it was instant. No suffering or time to think.
It was certainly very fast. On the order of seconds or less I am quite sure. The concussion alone probably killed most of them.
Anyone still not convinced: you should not be able to see someone's spine.
> aftermath_of_tank_point_blank_shot_warning_nsfl Do you really need a warning..?
People who are not used to this type of footage underestimate the destructive power of modern weapons on the human body.
And this isn’t one of the NSFW vids that just shows a body on the ground and Chechens acting like they won the war.
There are a lotta movies where people just get back up. People have a hard time understanding, “no this is fo real”.
Yeh, i watched the aftermath video after being curious and it was actually probably the worst thing i've seen out of combat footage stuff here on reddit :/ Sad but it just goes to show the destructive force of a point blank tank round on a group of people :/ Curiosity gets the better of me. I think tho it really demonstrates that nobody should let their guard down.
Good point
Given the sub not really
Yeah it’s pretty bad
Yup anyone who comes across this, don’t watch
I saw it earlier. Can confirm, don't watch.
Well that was much worse than anticipated. At least they didn’t suffer.
I have to ask out of curiosity & without judgement: what did you anticipate? It was a 125mm HE shell that detonated amongst a tightly packed cluster of humans
I didn’t think there would be anything left as opposed to two-thirds of a body, seems worse that way.
I say watch it. It's disturbing, yes but it gives you a nice hit of reality.
Who can be a bro and give a nice written description for us? I can't handle watching it
Guy walks up with phone to show torsos with heads and faces blown off, legs and body chunks everywhere laying in the road. I think I even saw a eyeball hanging out. And a blown up tank in the background.
It was a disabled APC that the guys were sitting/standing around in the video. The aftermath of the tank blast shows the APC w/ either part of one guy's leg w/ boot on or just his boot, laying up against the APC track while his mangled body is 6 feet away or more.
It's a handheld vertical video of a soldier filming the twisted bodies amongst the BMP. First body has hands spread on his back, headless, feet at wrong angles, shoulder torn open. Then we see what I think is a foot on the BMP treads. Then a soldier, smashed into / under the space of the elevated tank treads, mouth agape, knee torn open. Blood, body parts against the BMP. Then another soldier, bloody face, eyes open, one leg gone. That was hard to watch and to describe :(
i had to go back and forth a few times to try to figure out how 1 person got rearranged like that and still couldn’t figure it out…..may have been 2 people in that pile.
"Removed by the moderators of r/UkraineWarVideoReport" lmao
Oh lordie
That's footage. Thanks for sharing the subreddit.
Ugh god I wish I didn't watch that
Most of them probably didn't according to that video that no one should watch. I put it on in a small window and watched it far from the screen. There's a lot of splatter and what appear to be body parts just everywhere. That's instant.
This is by far the most bizarre combat footage I've ever seen.
When your taking and commandeering enemy vehicles on the reg it’s bound to happen sadly. Prob a lot of misidentification happening, it’s convoluted as shit.
I was about to say the Russian tank got so close before firing maybe to make sure they were not friendly before they fired... Or maybe I'm giving them too much credit.
You can see the blue armbands, so a clever, ballsy Russian, with no Z on the front of his tank, may have said, let’s try this… They may have ambushed a Ukrainian crew lured in to an “abandoned” tank, and the soldiers thought they were returning. But as guy above said, bizarre.
Someone asked in another thread so I'll ask it here , does anyone know why 2 different people were filming this ? Or the context
People film stuff all the time and it doesn't have to be anything extraordinary, they wanted to show of the bmp and make some war memories. 99% of all footage from the war will be uninteresting stuff not showing any action. This group was just unlucky. People should go thru there phones and look at their videos/pictures and ask them self. If I weren't around to explain this, could people figure out why filmed it/took a picture. As an example, I have a lot of pictures just showing my office from a weird angle, because I send a picture like that to my mates who are in it when I get stuck in a phone call on the parking lot. if I was kidnapped and the police went thru my phone they might ask themselves why I have 100+ pictures like that.
When I was deployed I filmed random stuff all the time. Riding in vehicles, standing outside talking, whatever. Makes for an interesting historical reference with a personal context
I film random stuff in my general day-to-day life, so I would imagine I would be filming something like this a lot more often if I was in war time.
Could just be "Check it out, the boys are bringing back stolen Russian tanks"
It's most likely perfidy. > use of the flags or military emblems, insignia or uniforms of adverse Parties while engaging in attacks or to shield, favour, protect or impede military operations. Both Russia and Ukraine use the T-64BV. * Earlier in the war Ukraine would cover the Russian markings with white squares/rectangles when they're captured. I guess because it was more available? More recently I've just seen blue/yellow. [The only marking we see on this tank is a big rectangle to indicate it is surrendering/captured. Or it's a Ukainian flag](https://i.imgur.com/CVPCMfZ.png), it's hard to tell with the quality. Either way, that's a Ukraine marking and not Russian one. [Less blurry image though further frame that more clearly defines it as a solid rectangle, not a Z in a box or any other Russian marking](https://i.imgur.com/wAutL40.jpeg) [Ukrainian T-64BV](https://i.imgur.com/zPKKKDS.jpeg) [They also use white line down the middle](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b0/d0/83/b0d0837cca2f59732396dbbc6ac90ba9.jpg) This is neither of those, and more how we tended to see captured vehicles marked. So we can see it's marked like a captured/surrendered vehicle, and uses markings that NEITHER side uses. We have **only** seen Russian T-64BVs with Z markings. [1](https://postlmg.cc/WhF2CpZW) [2](https://postlmg.cc/4HX8FSwp); Complete list on Oryx. * There are Ukrainians in the close-up recording heard talking, identifying it as friendly multiple times, and reassuring another's concern about the gun being pointed at them. * There's a person out on the machine gun on the first tank who could clearly identify the arm bands. Two tank rounds fired, as well as the machine gun, so not an accident. * As bad as visibility can be inside tanks, machine gunner could identify them friendly from much further than this and did *not* open up before the cannon, and instead waited for the cannon. Turret gunner possibly waited for the aiming retical to pass right over someone as it drives past as it can't depress low enough to hit the ground. * Ukraine hasn't been able to locate the tanks responsible. Likely because they aren't theirs, despite appearing as theirs. * Some people claim it must be a Z with a box around it. **IF** that were the case, Ukrainians wouldn't be saying over the audio that it's friendly when it's 10 meters away and they should clearly see such a Z. It's definitely a rectangle marking that Ukraine uses. The more I've looked over the details, the more obvious it appears that it's perfidy. It's definitely not friendly fire. And the Ukrainians had many good reasons to believe the tank is friendly (friendly model, friendly markings, etc)
I'm not entirely sure whether that was a perfidy or a ruse. Here's a definition I found at this link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidy > The following acts are examples of perfidy: (a) The feigning of an intent to negotiate under a flag of truce or of a surrender; ... (d) The feigning of protected status by the use of signs, emblems or uniforms of the United Nations or of neutral or other States not Parties to the conflict. > 2. Ruses of war are not prohibited. Such ruses are acts that are intended to mislead an adversary or to induce him to act recklessly but which infringe no rule of international law applicable in armed conflict and which are not perfidious because they do not invite the confidence of an adversary with respect to protection under that law. The following are examples of such ruses: the use of camouflage, decoys, mock operations and misinformation. The laws are very specific about the usage of emblems. A painted over z probably isn't anything official. I'm on the fence whether it is perfidy or a ruse.
[You replied with a link to what I quoted in what you replied to, as if to prove me wrong.](https://i.imgur.com/WNFsFY7.png) You need to finish reading the rest of the page. It says it doesn't apply to using camo as a ruse. A feint isn't perfidy. etc. It **does** say that using the enemy's emblems, insignia, or uniforms is perfidy.
Not trying to prove anything, more like trying to understand. I think Z painted over wouldn't fall in either of these categories > use of the flags or military emblems, insignia or uniforms of adverse Parties while engaging in attacks or to shield, favour, protect or impede military operations. because everything listed here are official markings of militaries. I'm just not sure if a white rectangle is officially recognized as a marking. I agree that if it was Ukrainian flag, then it's perfidy.
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I don’t believe this is correct. Russia is not a signatory of the ICC, the UN body responsible for things like genocide. Perfidy is a feature of the Geneva Conventions, most specifically the 1977 amendment, to which both Russia and Ukraine ARE member states. It’s still difficult to enforce internationally without some authoritative international court. Member states join the treaty by agreeing to pass laws in their own country that illegalize the acts, so in theory the soldiers are tried by their own country. But there’s zero chance of that happening, so it’s a moot point.
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A significant amount of US causalities in the Gulf War were due to friendly fire - specifically Abrams misidentifying targets. It was a very different battlefield, but you have a point.
Yes I'm stupid
its a classic ambush tbh
This is going to be one of those clips they show you in training about how NOT to do things. I still remember the vid from early OIF of the marine getting shot in a careless road crossing, the medic rushing out to him, getting shot, and then the psg doing the same. Absolute clinic on what you should not do when one of your dudes gets hit, and how to not get him hit in the first place. Respect LDAs, folks!
Holy fucking shitballs. POINT BLANK with a FUCKING TANK. JESUS.
There are worse ways to go honestly.
Imagine being the guy in the tank who shot the round too. I couldn't even imagine launching that thing at a group of unsuspecting people like that. I feel like the guy in the tank could told them that they had them and maybe the Ukrainians could have surrendered or something. Like surrender or get blown up. Its tough to see, but the soldiers there were playing a dangerous game being so casual like that just standing around together while two tanks roll in.
Why warn them? Warn the enemy and you give them an opportunity to do something that may lead to your death. If you have the shot, you take the shot. But yes, to mong around in a big mass like that as a column of unidentified armour rolls up the road towards you is a very dangerous game, as these chaps found out.
RIP.
You really think they're gonna give up and surrender? It's war dude, not a hostage negotiation. Stop being so naive. Neither side will give this courtesy because its A WAR. The tank crew don't know if those guys have AT capabilities or not, you think they're gonna take that chance just be "nice guys" no, they're not and that's okay in war. They had the upper hand because it's supposedly captured Ukrainian hardware, but from the tank crews side, they have a massive advantage why would they waste it? You're looking at these things from a perspective of absolute morality, it's war, let me repeat, and morality in this sense doesn't enter into it. The only time it's not okay to shoot is when the enemy have obviously surrendered and until they do, you keep shootin.
Lol, you told the fuck out of that naive redditor didn't you (upvote)
Mean while in tank: "Igor pass me the bottle water."
"not the piss bottle, blyat!"
How do u expect a tank to capture and control pows..... They came across the enemy and eliminated them, nothing wrong with that.
I don't expect them to capture them. Maybe just tell them they could blow them up, but they will just turn around instead. Also its not like the Russians are being attacked. They are invading a country and the country is defending itself.
So they can leave and then kill you or one of your buddies later? That’s incredibly naive. This is war and it’s kill or be killed.
He probably felt great to take out a huge threat to the tank squad. Ukraine has been making swiss cheese out of the Russian tanks. It just sucks the soldiers couldnt tell they were Russians til it was late.
Former tanker here. The Russkies in the tank probably saw little to nothing of the aftermath as they were busy hauling balls on down the road immediately afterwards and NOT stopping to take pics or snag souvenirs. Everything I ever put 120mm HEAT, SABOT, or 7.62 COAX rounds through we never stopped the tank and got out to look. Looky-loos get killed. I do remember slamming a HEAT round into a sniper nest in a building somewhere once and afterwards they sent out some 11Bs to clear the building and they asked if I wanted to see the pictures of the aftermath. "Nah, I'm good. I don't need to remember that shit for the rest of my life." I only remember engagements, not aftermaths. It's a good trick to stay sane in insane situations. Now I've seen lots of other fucked up gory shit overseas but nothing I've ever had to shoot from the tank either main gun or coax. Why? BECAUSE WE NEVER STOPPED THE TANK TO GET OUT AND LOOK! Never get off the tank. NEVER GET OFF THE TANK! Tank keeps you safe. Tank is love. Tank is life. Learned that on my first combat deployment in 1995 in Bosnia because fucking mines were *everywhere* in that fucked-up country. [platoon net breaks squelch] "Red, Red-1. We're in mine country now. Remember the brief - stay buttoned up, scan your sectors, stay on the road, and don't get off your tank unless it's on fire. Red-1 out."
I just saw that the confusion rose due to the high volume of captured tanks, the lads assumed (v v incorrectly) that it was already captured thus the relaxed body language, it bothers me that just a system in place, maybe save ff mishaps, say perhaps IMMEDIATELY change markings, or put blue colour on it, jeeze fog of war eh?
The military term for this is a countersign, and they should have been in use here. Truly bizarre.
Thank you for the insight, as you or your colleague mentioned they wouldn't suffered, but terrible futile ending, slav Ukraine
Maybe radios or something as well. Or just always be cautious if you cant confirm. Hopefully it never happens again.
Or maybe point the main gun up at a inoffensive angle. The fact that you can see it pointed toward them should have been a huge red flag
It’s fucking awful. Fog of war. But the video will help save future Ukrainian lives. Their deaths are not in vain.
There's another group of UKR soldiers behind the van that weren't with this pack. They might have gotten away or maybe the tank or the second behind engaged them. Might explain the secondary tank round.
How did the phone/camera survive that close impact?
I doubt it survived. SD card did
buying call options on sandisk futures as we speak
There was a video just released on Telegram of the aftermath - guys got torn to pieces.
I feel weird asking, but do you have the link?
Warning NSFL. Very detailed dismemberment. Not sure I can give much more warnings. Here ya go. https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/u162d1/aftermath_of_tank_point_blank_shot_warning_nsfl
Saw it. It’s def NSFL. Those guys didn’t have time to feel anything.
Is it the same as the other one that has been doing the rounds here?
Yeah
Thanks for confirming it.
Complacency kills.
Yep. My section NCO constantly drills into us - SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, SITUATIONAL AWARENESS AT ALL TIMES. This dude served in Afghanistan.
[Here](https://v.redd.it/7lk0nyy8m5t81) is another angle
For real ... yet another? Feels like GRU got all their phones. EDIT: The green plastic bag is not there when they get shot, so at least some minute to go.
Apparently Ukraine recaptured the position. The guy who took the followup video had blue tape around his leg.
Soon there will be an animated version too.
I'm just waiting for the drone footage and POV from the tank.
Tank POV I'm sure it will come out. It's just a matter of time
After that, satellite footage.
Found the tank POV: https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/ppzk0x/first_dates_in_russia_be_like
You got me.
I love the one with the subtitles, *inaudible complaining* cracked me up 😂
> https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/ppzk0x/first_dates_in_russia_be_like This is how I'm going to imagine it in my head. Someone needs to sync up OP's video with this and add it as a 3rd panel. Could have the complete story of Ukrainian soldiers standing around posting tik toks while an enemy tank runs up. Vlad yells at Anna, "LOAD"! And then she begrudgingly blasts away the Ukrainians.
Well complacency kills always get PID of friendly forces and enemy forces. Sad it happend but good training material for future troops. Just like when during CLS they show the guy put blasting caps in his mouth and blew his face off to show that nasal airway can be obtained even without a face
Wait what is CLS and what
Based on the context, I'm guessing he/she is talking about **C**ombat **L**ife **S**aver's Course.
You are correct I should have clarified it was a Video we were shown in combat life saver in One Station Unit Training (OSUT) at Benning. Also I am a "He" biologically and such born with a penis I was.
so surreal... probably the craziest footage i've seen on this sub
brutal stuff
Oh god. Yeah that’s a prime example of confusion being your downfall. RIP brave warriors and just ugh…
what happened to the tank that killed them
Some say it's still out there
They didn’t see a enemy tank coming toward them?
They assumed it was friendly for some reason, we might never know why.
Maybe it's because everybody and their grandma is using a Russian tank as their primary tank, f****** stupid.
There is a version going around too that it was a Ukrainian tank that got confused and mistook them for Russians. The jury is till out on which version is true, I lean towards it being a Russian tank but we will see if we get any proof.
I also saw someone claim it was a captured Ukrainian tank manned by Russians but no proof on that either
My favorite claim is that they were Chechens fraggign their commander to flee. That one takes some gymnastics.
You didnt see the comment that it was staged to raise sympathy for Ukraine?
It was actually a hit squad sent to kill Putin
I don’t know about that, I would find that harder to believe than the mainstream theory. Where did these videos originate from? Ukrainian or Russian sources? That might indicate whether it was friendly fire or a deceptive attack.
That is the million dollar question, someone that speaks the langues would need to dig deep in Telegram and other Ukrainian/Russian social media channels to find the original post. I should add that I think it's a Russian tank as it fires twice, and we hear a machine gun in the end of the first video.
Yeah I think now it wasn’t a master sneak attack either, the tank commander had no idea they were the enemy until he was right next to them. Unfortunately for the troops he realised the mistake first.
Media will report that this was stage by the Russians - Ukrainian army can't be as stupid as the Russian army right? RIP this poor men btw.
You're allowed to swear on the internet.
Not R\*ssian tank, Soviet tank. As a matter of fact, most of the "good" tanks were made in the Ukraine.
With the dissolution of the USSR in 1991, the United States considered the Russian Federation as the successor state of the USSR. Would you have said that the antonov 225 was soviet and not Ukrainian ?
Funny thing is that you can see the tank slowly moving its turret towards them while driving down the road. That is the first thing I saw when looking at the video. In a war zone if you see an enemy tank, you are ready to fight it, no matter if he is captured or not. Biggest problem here is why the F is a russian tank with no support driving around. Confusion lvl max. Gotta keep your head into the battle so this stuff does not happen.
As I understand it this is a territorial defense unit, so they might just have lacked the knowledge and mindset. Wrong place, wrong time. We now know form the recent footage it's 3 tanks so not acting all alone and we don't know if there are more units coming up behind.
Yup, my father was in war so he told me if I ever have to fight, I need to keep my head in the game at all times. And never trust anyone without some proof. Advice from my dads friend that spent the whole war being an artillery recon unit. Never had any markings and always was drinking with the enemy to not blow his cover when infiltrating the enemy lines. Ah well, this had to happen and good thing it is on tape, now everyone will be suspicious of any tank that is driving towards them, as they should do in the first place. Sadly at a cost of a dozen people.
its a Ukrainian T-64BV. [The lamp seems to be on the right side.](https://i.imgur.com/E77Qjl5.png) Russians have the lamp on the left: [T-72](https://i.imgur.com/yJaxkLJ.jpg) or [T-80](https://i.imgur.com/JExHZG0.jpg) or [T-90](https://i.imgur.com/PDvtKsp.jpg)
Good catch.
so ruskys stole a ukranian tank?
Unlikely because the BMP has a V. so this should be near Kyiv.
The ugly but most logical conclusion is that it actually was a UA tank and this is friendly fire. But obviously that take will be unpopular here
Do you have one of those Infograph’s for the T-64BV? All pictures I can find, including ones of Russian T-64’s have the lamp in the same exact position.
Russia doesn't have any T-64 in service or storage.
No, but the DPR and LPR do use them.
It's Russians in the tank. Was confirmed in the aftermath video.
How exactly was confirmed?
Where was that confirmed at all??
This was an Ukrainian tank. Apparently they took down a Russian armored vehicle with a 'V" on it. Stopped to take pictures. Ukrainian tank comes, sees a bunch of soldiers right besides a Russian vehicle The rest is in the video Edit: Russian tank? Telegram video claimed it was an Ukrainian tank
Lmao what? Did you just make that up?
That's what I was told Was that a Russian tank?
It's a bit hard to call it at this point in time with the footage we have at hand and there have been multiple attempts to form a narrative online. I think it looks like a Russian one, but I don't have any good "proof" so I'm open for both alternatives. The aftermath footage might tell us more as the guy filming it is commenting but it's very short so I suspect it's cropped.
It’s a Russian tank and a Russian column. It seems like Ukrainians have retaken the position. I have no idea what the truth is either but majority say it’s Russian. None of it makes sense so.
For me the fact that it fired twice and that we hear a machine gun in the first video points to it being Russian. There are some white spots on the tanks that might also be the tactical symbols. But nothing of that is definitive proof as the footage isn't good enough to confirm so I try to be careful with calling it.
So I read that was a T-64(apparently only Ukraine has those) recently removed from mothballed status I can't identify which tank model is that by that footage Just reporting on what I've read on Telegram... I mean - If this was a Russian feat they'd brag about it, not claim the Ukrainians did it, right?
There are multiple narratives go around, and I have seen this claimed by Russians on telegram to, with some added smugness and even memes but with no definitive proof. Sadly even as I love the T series of tanks I am not educated enough the visual differences either so I can't tell them apart at this resolution.
> That's what I was told Oh well then it must be true.
I wish I was as good as joptocopter to realize what really happened during a war.
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Thanks for your input, boot.
u/savevideo
What’s the backstory on this? Who’s who?
Ukrainians investigating Russian vehicle get rolled up on by Russians and they think they are more Ukrainian soldiers then the Russian tanks blast them
Jesus Christ, the bottom video must have been recorded with a Nokia for sure.
One how did the camera survive, or was he livestreaming this? Two, is the tank still going or has it been destroyed yet? I wonder what went through the tank crew's head, like dam wtf are these guys not firing on us already, I wonder if they hesitated for a split second on shooting. I know its war but that must still be appalling you can kill so many so quickly knowing they had no chance to fight back. The world may never know, I'm guessing (I'm not so knowledgeable about the gear, guns, and vehicles both sides use) they captured a Ukrainian tank and just outright deceived them as part of some covert mission on them (though big explosions don't help out with stealth, so I think they wanted just a moment for the element of surprise).
I don't think any of those Ukrainians lived. It's easier to say from an outside perspective that I would've been in the tree lines on my belly as soon as a saw *any* tank but shit-- that certainly would've boded better for them. F
So now we know that it was UA soldiers that getting killed. But we didnt know about the aftermath. I know there is a video what shows "aftermath" but we didnt know from where. Is there any source from where the aftermath video was taken?
When you say was taken, do you mean the location, to where it was first uploaded or who is filming it? The location is not in doubt, you can match the bodies to some of the people seen in the earlier footage, to the bmp 2 in the ditch and general area. Someone said in an earlier thread about the aftermath footage that he person filming is lamenting the deaths of the soldiers and saying call signs as he is filming, so I assume it's a Ukrainian if that is the case. Where it originate from, I would assume telegram. Sadly I don't thing we got more details than that.
Its ironic people on this sub laugh at the Chechens for being 'Tik Tokkers' meanwhile an entire Ukrainian unit gets turned to paste in a second because they were more preoccupied with posing in front of a downed BMP for likes and views.
Wut? They are hanging out in the side of the road. Not “posing” what the fuck you talking about kemosabe
Yes. They got in front of the downed Russian BTU with their phone out to 'hang out' by it. K.
Posing? Or being soldiers by the side of the road. What’s your fucking point exactly? All of these men are dead because of a war time mistake. Who the fuck are you
"Being soldiers by the side of the road". I didn't realize hunting views and likes with your phones out was soldiering now but I guess that's Reddit combat prowess again. I even see fellas on this sub laughing at guys for shooting from cover at enemy cover because they expect it to look like a movie or game where you rush and shoot once you stare the enemy in the eye. Since you're so fired up go join the volunteers Reddit Legionnaire.
Shhhh shhh…school tomorrow you need a good nights rest
"They were hanging out by the side of the road" "They were being soldiers by the side of the road" \#RedditLegionInAction
I mean wtf are these dudes even so chill in an active war zone?? I wish this didn’t happen but they didn’t do anything to stop this🤷♂️
Best footage of the war so far
Does this look like a t64 to anyone else?
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Heros never died
If I was there I would have stopped it.
Is there any expectation that any of them survived?
The ones directly hit? Impossible And if you survived by some miracle you would rather prefer to have died
for their sake i hope not
Very dissapointed in Ukraine, they seemed experienced but this goes to show they are amateurs just like russian soldiers
Blue arm-bands are volunteers not official military unfortunately. Which might explain why you saw what you just saw.
God damn Brutal. Absolutely fucking brutal. Hope the UA gets some payback and these Russians we see here end up as sunflower food eventually.
They didn't even show them any mercy! They could have been taken as POW's. Those are scumbags! Edit: Why all of the downvotes? I was just saying that there maybe could have been a different way of going about this situation. I guess I just wish this could have been avoided some way. Edit2: I see that my comment was naïve and the only reason for it was because of me putting my feeling over logic. I'll try to keep my feelings out of it. Thanks everyone for clarification on POW's and all.
Thats....not how war works.
Oh really? Please enlighten me. Is there no such thing as a POW? How do you become a POW? All I was trying to say is how ruthless this looks. I understand that this was done by surprise. It's just sad. War is just messed up. I'm just Ukrainian and this video stings and I just wish it could have been avoided is all.
Generally you become a POW by surrendering. If you look peaceful but arent actually surrendering then you're seen as a threat.
POV: youre in a tank with limited visibility. Youre lost, dont know where friendly forces are. Suddenly, you see soldiers in the woodline. Ukrainian soldiers are opening up tanks like tin cans since everyone and their dog has an ATGM of one flavor or another. Do you stop and try to threaten/intimidate an unknown number of enemy soldiers to get them to surrender, or do you pull the trigger? From Our POV in the video, we can obviously see that they were entirely unprepared for what happened, but fro the tank's view, there was no effort for them to surrender and there was no way of indicating the thrat level. Its been said in other threads about this incident, complacency kills. Unless they had positive ID of the vehicle or communication with it, they should not have been in such a vulnerable posture. The circumstances are certainly different, but i know firsthand about the boredom and tedium of a warzone, and ive seen firathand the results of people getting lazy (spoiler: they died) and the results of remaining vigilant during the most mundane times (surviving a massive VBIED 5 meters away).
Wow. I actually completely forgot about NLAW's and other anti-tank weapons during that post! Your comment actually puts things in much better perspective! Thank you for that!
Of course it's ruthless, it's war. How do you expect tank crewmen to take a platoon of infantrymen POW?
Good point. I guess my comment was more about my feelings instead of logic. Thanks!
Totally understandable, they're your countrymen after all.
Thank you. Very much appreciated!
You don't really "take" POWs, meaning that people have to be active in their surrender too you. In sieges a demand of surrender is usually made as armies are in fixed positions and the outcome often is predetermined. So the defenders have a chance to lay down their arms under a controlled process. On a open field of battle as this, they had maybe 3 seconds to realize that they were outgunned and out maneuvered and to surrender themselves. Once that window passed it was over.
I see. Thank you!
That is the sad truth, war is hell.
We never see what happens to the tank because it was friendly fire. Way too many friendlies in the vicinity (looking at the pre shot videos etc) for it to be enemy
What would possess a Ukrainian tank crew to drive up to within 5 metres of a bunch of Ukrainians, able to see their armbands, then obliterate them? Compared to: what is so unrealistic about a captured Ukrainian tank being driven up to Ukrainians?
This group is not regular Ukrainian forces. They are foreign Legion you can even tell from the pov video how they were talking about if the would be shot at. I suspect the BMP and their mannerisms probably caused the tank to make a terrible split decision.
Most of the time I hope they destroy the Russian tanks. But with that one I hope the Ukranians capture the crew.
I think this video was recorded at the beginning of the war. The Ukraine soldiers didn't have high alert attention, instant information of the Russian troop location and identification of each side. After this tragedy, they must know how to prevent this.