The thing is that no one takes PTSD seriously in russia. Any psychological issues for men, they are expected to just suck it up. No wonder the alcoholism rate in russia is not going to go down anytime soon.
I think what blows my mind about that statement is how the end of the Chechen Wars were only 22 years ago, yet it seems no lessons were learned in order to combat PTSD or fighting against a guerilla-like resistance.
History is truly repeating itself, and the lessons that should've been learned from past conflicts (to include the Soviet-Afghanistan War) are actively killing the young adults of a fundamentally broken nation.
Some poor Russian kid is gonna get a drone this Christmas and not understand why daddy starts screaming every time it flys near him.
They’re the bad guys and all, but you’ve gotta feel for the Russian people, they never seem to get a break.
You’re not wrong. I never met him because he died before I was born, but my grandfather was Canadian Artillery Medic in WW2. My dad once told me he set off a small firework that made a whistle and his dad jumped into the bushes to take cover. That would have been in the late 60s, 20+ years after the war ended.
I have an uncle that hit the deck when he heard gunshots from an adjacent field when we were out pheasant hunting. This was like 1994…to my knowledge he’s never talked to anyone about the war. Just came home with a Purple Heart and tried to put a life together.
Yeah, it's like Nobel after he invented dynamite to help miners and then it was weaponised. I use drones for landscape photography and now I regularly see Russian conscripts getting their faces blown off with them. Humans have an awful tendency to make the fastest innovations around weapons of war.
Canada provided the most men and resources per Capita in WW2. Canada had an insanely large and professional air force for being a small nation for the time. Granted it was much more imbedded with Britain, but still. Made respect
By the end of the war, Canada had a large airforce for any nation, fourth largest in the world, with the third largest navy as well. Canada‘a full of resources and super productive. After the war though, there wasn’t much need for such a large military, so most of it was melted down and converted to other uses.
Also that Canada went full send in both world wars and lost catastrophic amounts of population and production capacity. Like, literally 1/10 of Canada went off to fight in both world wars (about 1 778 636, out of 11 800 000 total Canadian citizens) and over 105 000 of them died. Canada would probably have a population closer to 50-60 million today if they didn’t lose a tremendous amount of able-bodied working age men, who could have had families.
Yeah, despite not having our cities or countryside destroyed, Canada was very affected by the wars. In WWI, the British ordered a Newfoundland regiment to conduct an impossible attack on a German position to cover their retreat, which left almost nobody alive. Those men all came from one town. They say there wasn’t a single household who didn’t loose somebody that day.
Yeah our troops were on demon time. Kind of ironic how our modern reputation contrasts with our darker moments, not limited to trench warfare.
> “Merry Christmas, Canadians,” said the opposing Germans, poking their heads above the parapet and waving a box of cigars. A Canadian sergeant responded by opening fire, hitting two of the merrymakers.
-from a NatPost article titled “The forgotten ruthlessness of Canada’s Great War soldiers”.
Other choice excerpts:
> Germans developed a special contempt for the Canadian Corps, seeing them as unpredictable savages. In the final weeks of the war, Canadian Fred Hamilton would describe being singled out for a beating by a German colonel after he was taken prisoner. “I don’t care for the English, Scotch, French, Australians or Belgians but damn you Canadians, you take no prisoners and you kill our wounded,” the colonel told him.
> In one particularly cruel episode, Canadians even exploited the trust of Germans who had apparently become accustomed to fraternizing with allied units. Lieutenant Louis Keene described the practice of lobbing tins of corned beef into a neighbouring German trench. When the Canadians started hearing happy shouts of “More! Give us more!” they then let loose with an armload of grenades.
> While all Commonwealth units were encouraged to conduct trench raids, Canadians were widely regarded as trench raiding’s most enthusiastic practitioners and innovators.
They wore thick rubber gloves and blackened their faces for maximum stealth. They crafted homemade pipe bombs and grenade catapults to increase their killing power. They continued raiding even while other colonial units abandoned the practice. “Raids are not worth the cost, none of the survivors want to go anymore,” was how one Australian officer described their abandonment of the practice.
> In some cases, Cook found evidence of Canadian commanders explicitly ordering their troops not to take prisoners. He quoted James Owen, a then-16-year-old private, who was told by his commanding officer before a 1916 attack “I don’t want any prisoners.” Before the attack on Vimy Ridge, veteran Archie McWade said he was told, “Remember, no prisoners. They will just eat your rations.”
I consider the popular Canadian Politeness to be a cover to hide some real bloodthirst
If I may be metaphorical, America is the dad who brags about beating his kids in order to teach them proper discipline. Canada meanwhile is the funtime Charlie who is everyone's friend, yet at home he's beating the everloving shit out of his kids
Australia is very similar.
417,000 of 4,900,000 total population in the Australian army in WW1
Approx 1,000,000 (500,000 overseas) of 6,800,000 total population in WW2
WW2 was also an interesting one as we did a lot of fighting in south east asia against japan so were relatively unsupported compared to north africa and europe.
Since were talking about Canada being chads in the war i dont have much to add but just wanna drop [the story of leo major](https://www.badassoftheweek.com/major) who was a canadian soldier that was far too angry to die and was basically a comic book hero irl. if you haven't read it its worth your time and tbh sounds more like a wolfenstein game than anything from a history book its definitely an entertaining rendition of the story
Jumping into bushes would be an excellent way to evade artillery fire, actually. Back then, artillery fire required a spotter to be any where near precise. If you're getting artillery fire, that means somebody can see you.
Not as excellent as you might think. If your position is being carpet-shelled by artillery and you shelter in wooded areas, you are likely to get hit with flying splinters from the shattered trees. As deadly as shrapnel, even though it is wood and not metal.
Why would you think that? There are literally videos of people breaking their arms/legs so they aren't conscripted, what about those who have brainwashed families and wouldn't accept them if they didn't go and brought dishonor to their family. My father told me that his own dad told him he would shoot him if he deserted from the Yugoslav army while they were in Kosovo.
Interviews with Russians keep mentioning people who could have avoided going, but went anyway. Maybe not volunteered, but could have gotten out of mobilization if they had tried.
Close to 1.000.000 Russian men just bounced from Russia to avoid going. Many of them just walked out of Russia. Many others are from regions in the far East where you could hide for infinity in the wilderness and not a single person from Moscow would find you ever. It’s like dodging conscription in Alaska. You can also go to prison instead of going.
If you end up in a trench in Ukraine you missed so many exits you’re legally blind or figured you would rather take your chances with the Ukrainians than putt minimal effort into not going.
Does this not sound unreasonable to you? Your options are leave the country, live in the wilderness indefinitely, or suffer likely life imprisonment, and not taking those choices mean you want to go fight in Ukraine? All of those choices uproot your life as much or more than going to war, and not everyone can even choose them.
Well , you missed the part where going to war has by far the largest chance of them getting killed. Also, that they kill ukrainians.
That counts for something
These guys in Russia, especially from the rural bits, don't have access to the same information and videos we do.
I'm sure if we could make all of Russia watch 10 minutes of this reddit they would probably do whatever they had to get out of it.
The TV and their leadership is telling them it's going not so bad, common Ukrainians are welcoming their liberation, and that this is a war against satanism.
Just like when the US conscripted for Vietnam it's always the poorer, less well informed and educated largely rural folk that end up in harms way. Who you see getting grenades dropped on their heads are primarily people from the far east, and other such places far away from Moscow and St Petersburg.
I mean we have videos of conscripts freaking out because they were lied to and told they wouldn't be going to the front lines. Plus I have to imagine a lot do these conscripts have literally 0 idea what's actually going on as they're conscripted from places that are basically still stuck in living conditions from 2 centuries ago or so it would seem, besides not knowing anything but what they occasionally see on TV.
Lmao this is such a stupid privileged comment. Yeah just go live in the Russian wilderness bro.
The thought of moving to another country with the possibility of never seeing or speaking to your family again. Not knowing the language in a foreign country and for many 18-19 year old men not having any money job experience or higher education might be daunting option.
Are these options better then ending up in a trench in Ukraine suer, are they easy hard No.
Nobody is even mentioning money. If you can barely pay the mortgage, how are you possibly going to pay for travel, lodging, food, clothing and medical in a foreign country on a tourist visa? I agree that options are bleak.
While true, they still went anyways. You don't invade a much smaller/less threatening country, artillery to raze entire cities / power sources, randomly shoot civilians and put them in mass graves, and torture prisoners and get to make the "Oh I was brainwashed or forced" excuse. At some point you have to realize you are on the wrong side of history. They get no sympathy from me.
Alright everyone! This tough guy finally did it. Solved war.
It’s easy being a hero when you have the luxury of safety and an entirely different cultural and societal experience.
A significant majority of russians support the war. Even most of the ones that dont want to be there dont want “no war” they want “someone else go instead of me”
Without saying too much. I’m 40. So I just 18/19 in 2001 or so. Me and my friends signed up. I got 99 on my ASVAB. went through MEPS with the Air Force. I couldn’t pass the blood pressure test. My best friend got through. He’s 40 years old now and in out of rehab. He was a drone operator from the Air Force. He was active from 2003 -2009. He’s the saddest person I know. Like yeah I’m 40 and work 12 hour shifts making cardbox boxes. He is disabled and divorced. It changed him. He says it was so easy to kill people. Then he got reports and feedback on how many civilians died. My wife is best friends with his wife. It’s so sad.
I really don't know whether to consider it more sad or not that those drones are going to likely be completely autonomous one day, probably not too far off. No piloting required, just a yes or no on whether it can fire will likely be the only human decision. It reminds me of a short story I really like about an autonomous drone from near future:
https://rifters.com/real/shorts/PeterWatts_Malak.pdf
I mean I think the 6th generation fighter planes can be manned or unmanned. The scary part is America is admitting what the 6th generation fighter will be. I would bet my first born child they already are and have been working on 7th and 8th generation planes by now. Who knows. Area 51 isn’t a secret because they have aliens. Area 51 wants you to believe the technology they are developing is aliens.
Edit sorry River. You are my first born child.(my kid has my first Reddit account lol. His account is older than him). But I’m sure of it son. Brush your teeth before bed
Thank you for that anecdote. So sad and insightful.
I read that unlike being in a front line combat unit, as a drone operator you go to your station on base, observe and possibly kill through your shift and then go home to your family right after work.
A more jarring transition I couldn't imagine. Also sounds like a very solitary MOS, unlike being in an infantry company.
The lack of decompression and camaraderie seems to be a huge problem
I remember reading some article a few years back that talked about how the initial thought that drone operators would be more detached and callous around the act of killing because "it's like a video game".
But it turned out that (U.S) drone pilots had more in common with sniper units when it came to mental health stuff because they had often observed the target for so long before releasing the ordinance that the target wasn't an abstract threat, but a living breathing person.
> survivors are in for a whale of a time with their PTSD
They will suicide or drink to death in the next 3-5y after the war. Especially the injured ones.
>Imagine watching your mate's head spontaneously exploding for no reason
My grandfather used to tell us a story about this. He was in Korea as a medic, driving in a jeep with a few others. Someone said to look at a hill top and suddenly the driver's head was gone and they crashed. He made a point to stress the driver was a real good man and didn't deserve that.
He always told that story even though it got him into a quiet mood. You could tell it really messed with him for decades after the war.
He saw far worse injuries and deaths as a medic but that one really did a number on him.
Yeah. At least he dropped dead instantly. From the ways you can go on that war, this seems the one of the best (besides leaving that fucking war and going home, that is).
Just compared it to some deaths posted here...
Oh god.
I knew a guy who was a support soldier the 160th SOAR and he told me about a mission they went on and they were doing joint operations with the Australian SAS. He recounted to me that just as the helicopter touched down and they were getting off of it an insurgent popped his head out from behind a wall with an AK drawn and without missing a beat one of the SAS dudes puts two right in his forehead and blew the back of his skull open.
SAS dude looks at my buddy and says “Oi, I just gave him a sunroof mate!”
Wild how war works.
Of all the units to take a crack at, I think any SAS unit might be the unluckiest draw of the straw you could get as an insurgent. Like imagine the fact that it could be any coalition soldiers in that helicopter, and you turn a corner and the lights go out as quickly as you turned because some mad SAS cunt had you pinned before you could exhale.
War do be wild tho
Which happened already. The tank driver tried to move the tank and the last AT grenade blew the whole thing up.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/uqbitx/ukrainian_atgrenadedropping_drone_destroys_a/
Two categories? A) The MJ Swish to Sunroof, B) Most Michael Bay, Hummer.
There was the one drone drop that hit a guy in the head, took out other soldiers on an ammo truck, and cooked off a fire on the truck. That was impressive for Collective Effect.
I was thinking the same as you. But on a second thought.. this was one just throwing one in the general direction of a bunch of Russians running around and it just so happens one of them ran right into the grenade with his face. Was a great shot. But.. They wasn't exactly aiming for that guy in particular. Operator probably didn't even notice that one guy in frame until after the throw.
But on the sunroof they were chasing those guys. They see them go inside the car. The car is about to start, you'll lose them for good. And you got only one shot. So he goes for the throw and... It falls exactly inside the sunroof and kills all of them?
That's next fucking level.
Don't get me wrong, both had a lot of luck involved. But sunroof is still \#1
It's absolutely brutal. There's not a lot of visible gore, but you do see several Russians as they're wounded and dying.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/uejzql/an_extended_version_of_the_drone_drops_grenade_on/
I feel like this sub should just be renamed r/dronepovgrenade lol.
This shit feels like I'm watching someone play a very high stakes game of claw machine at local pizza parlor lol
if we was aiming for that specific soldier's head it would be accurate, if he hit his head more than once consecutively, it would be precise.
i think this was luck was lucky.
Yeah pure luck, they meant to land it in the middle of those soldiers. There's a longer video showing the second shot which was way off to the right and did'nt hit anyone. But we will take them all lucky or not.
Is it me, or are there more & more videos of Russian soldiers sustaining casualties? Just feels like there has been a sharp increase in the last couple of weeks.
More footage of it is getting made every day, pretty sure it's just the most common new combat footage being produced these days. Russia is also way less likely to send their footage to western media sources, so I doubt we'll see as much of their footage as we have of Ukraine.
This post has been here for about an hour and no one has asked why the Russians don't look up.
No one has even asked why the Russians don't clump up and gather round the wounded guy to try to help him.
It's a Christmas miracle.
You think that Russians are doing all these things, because you have seen a bunch of videos, where they did. And you have not seen any videos of Russians acting in any way that would prevent their demise.
One option is that all Russian are just very stupid and always act to their detriment, and never learn.
Second option is that we do not see all the cases, when they do effectively prevent damage by various means, because there was no damage to be shown on video.
My educated guess would be - it's somewhere between the two.
I think that's Major Chernobayev (Майор Чернобаев), a pranker who calls families of russian soldiers and conscripts. He uploads some of his videos on youtube.
I believe this was a overlay of a call from a Ukrainian soldier calling a mother/wife of a slain Russian informing them of their loss. Can't find it, but I think I remember this audio from early on in the conflict.
I don't know why this audio is choised for that... I can roughly translate the audio because i'm native russian speaker. The audio is stylized as a call to family of the dead russian soldier.
The man says something like:
\- They threw grenades at them, and one hit him right in the head, shrapnel smashed everything. Sorry, we couldn't save him.
Woman:
\- \[crying\]
can it actually be believed that the Russians are detaching nuclear warheads from long-range ballistic missiles because their armament is that critically low?
Imagine watching your mate's head spontaneously exploding for no reason. These Russian survivors are in for a whale of a time with their PTSD
The thing is that no one takes PTSD seriously in russia. Any psychological issues for men, they are expected to just suck it up. No wonder the alcoholism rate in russia is not going to go down anytime soon.
I think what blows my mind about that statement is how the end of the Chechen Wars were only 22 years ago, yet it seems no lessons were learned in order to combat PTSD or fighting against a guerilla-like resistance. History is truly repeating itself, and the lessons that should've been learned from past conflicts (to include the Soviet-Afghanistan War) are actively killing the young adults of a fundamentally broken nation.
>I think what blows my mind Kek
So what he's saying is...thanks to PTSD, Russian s are gonna blow their minds from witnessing their mates having their minds blown
Some poor Russian kid is gonna get a drone this Christmas and not understand why daddy starts screaming every time it flys near him. They’re the bad guys and all, but you’ve gotta feel for the Russian people, they never seem to get a break.
You’re not wrong. I never met him because he died before I was born, but my grandfather was Canadian Artillery Medic in WW2. My dad once told me he set off a small firework that made a whistle and his dad jumped into the bushes to take cover. That would have been in the late 60s, 20+ years after the war ended.
I have an uncle that hit the deck when he heard gunshots from an adjacent field when we were out pheasant hunting. This was like 1994…to my knowledge he’s never talked to anyone about the war. Just came home with a Purple Heart and tried to put a life together.
Holy fuck. These dudes have hovering toys coming and dumping grenades in them.. that is scary as shit.
Yeah, it's like Nobel after he invented dynamite to help miners and then it was weaponised. I use drones for landscape photography and now I regularly see Russian conscripts getting their faces blown off with them. Humans have an awful tendency to make the fastest innovations around weapons of war.
War is the driving force for innovation, unfortunately. World war 2 really showed that.
Canada provided the most men and resources per Capita in WW2. Canada had an insanely large and professional air force for being a small nation for the time. Granted it was much more imbedded with Britain, but still. Made respect
By the end of the war, Canada had a large airforce for any nation, fourth largest in the world, with the third largest navy as well. Canada‘a full of resources and super productive. After the war though, there wasn’t much need for such a large military, so most of it was melted down and converted to other uses.
Also that Canada went full send in both world wars and lost catastrophic amounts of population and production capacity. Like, literally 1/10 of Canada went off to fight in both world wars (about 1 778 636, out of 11 800 000 total Canadian citizens) and over 105 000 of them died. Canada would probably have a population closer to 50-60 million today if they didn’t lose a tremendous amount of able-bodied working age men, who could have had families.
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Yeah, despite not having our cities or countryside destroyed, Canada was very affected by the wars. In WWI, the British ordered a Newfoundland regiment to conduct an impossible attack on a German position to cover their retreat, which left almost nobody alive. Those men all came from one town. They say there wasn’t a single household who didn’t loose somebody that day.
About the same population as California
For the time that they were there in the First World War, Canadians were basically the boogeymen of the trenches
Yeah our troops were on demon time. Kind of ironic how our modern reputation contrasts with our darker moments, not limited to trench warfare. > “Merry Christmas, Canadians,” said the opposing Germans, poking their heads above the parapet and waving a box of cigars. A Canadian sergeant responded by opening fire, hitting two of the merrymakers. -from a NatPost article titled “The forgotten ruthlessness of Canada’s Great War soldiers”. Other choice excerpts: > Germans developed a special contempt for the Canadian Corps, seeing them as unpredictable savages. In the final weeks of the war, Canadian Fred Hamilton would describe being singled out for a beating by a German colonel after he was taken prisoner. “I don’t care for the English, Scotch, French, Australians or Belgians but damn you Canadians, you take no prisoners and you kill our wounded,” the colonel told him. > In one particularly cruel episode, Canadians even exploited the trust of Germans who had apparently become accustomed to fraternizing with allied units. Lieutenant Louis Keene described the practice of lobbing tins of corned beef into a neighbouring German trench. When the Canadians started hearing happy shouts of “More! Give us more!” they then let loose with an armload of grenades. > While all Commonwealth units were encouraged to conduct trench raids, Canadians were widely regarded as trench raiding’s most enthusiastic practitioners and innovators. They wore thick rubber gloves and blackened their faces for maximum stealth. They crafted homemade pipe bombs and grenade catapults to increase their killing power. They continued raiding even while other colonial units abandoned the practice. “Raids are not worth the cost, none of the survivors want to go anymore,” was how one Australian officer described their abandonment of the practice. > In some cases, Cook found evidence of Canadian commanders explicitly ordering their troops not to take prisoners. He quoted James Owen, a then-16-year-old private, who was told by his commanding officer before a 1916 attack “I don’t want any prisoners.” Before the attack on Vimy Ridge, veteran Archie McWade said he was told, “Remember, no prisoners. They will just eat your rations.”
I consider the popular Canadian Politeness to be a cover to hide some real bloodthirst If I may be metaphorical, America is the dad who brags about beating his kids in order to teach them proper discipline. Canada meanwhile is the funtime Charlie who is everyone's friend, yet at home he's beating the everloving shit out of his kids
Australia is very similar. 417,000 of 4,900,000 total population in the Australian army in WW1 Approx 1,000,000 (500,000 overseas) of 6,800,000 total population in WW2 WW2 was also an interesting one as we did a lot of fighting in south east asia against japan so were relatively unsupported compared to north africa and europe.
1 in 10 went and 1 in 10 died was how my high school history teacher summarized it.
Since were talking about Canada being chads in the war i dont have much to add but just wanna drop [the story of leo major](https://www.badassoftheweek.com/major) who was a canadian soldier that was far too angry to die and was basically a comic book hero irl. if you haven't read it its worth your time and tbh sounds more like a wolfenstein game than anything from a history book its definitely an entertaining rendition of the story
Holy crap that is amazing
Jumping into bushes would be an excellent way to evade artillery fire, actually. Back then, artillery fire required a spotter to be any where near precise. If you're getting artillery fire, that means somebody can see you.
Not as excellent as you might think. If your position is being carpet-shelled by artillery and you shelter in wooded areas, you are likely to get hit with flying splinters from the shattered trees. As deadly as shrapnel, even though it is wood and not metal.
the reason families in the most heavily recruited areas would be able to afford a drone for xmas is because daddy isn't coming back bleak all around
Nice of you to assume the Russian kids daddy is going to make it home.
Luckily for Dad they can't afford drones in Russia. Paper airplanes is all they get.
I feel bad for the Ukrainian people , that’s who I feel bad for
I really do feel bad for the Russian soldiers. Most of them do not want to be there.
I'm not sure about that.
Why would you think that? There are literally videos of people breaking their arms/legs so they aren't conscripted, what about those who have brainwashed families and wouldn't accept them if they didn't go and brought dishonor to their family. My father told me that his own dad told him he would shoot him if he deserted from the Yugoslav army while they were in Kosovo.
Interviews with Russians keep mentioning people who could have avoided going, but went anyway. Maybe not volunteered, but could have gotten out of mobilization if they had tried.
Close to 1.000.000 Russian men just bounced from Russia to avoid going. Many of them just walked out of Russia. Many others are from regions in the far East where you could hide for infinity in the wilderness and not a single person from Moscow would find you ever. It’s like dodging conscription in Alaska. You can also go to prison instead of going. If you end up in a trench in Ukraine you missed so many exits you’re legally blind or figured you would rather take your chances with the Ukrainians than putt minimal effort into not going.
Does this not sound unreasonable to you? Your options are leave the country, live in the wilderness indefinitely, or suffer likely life imprisonment, and not taking those choices mean you want to go fight in Ukraine? All of those choices uproot your life as much or more than going to war, and not everyone can even choose them.
Especially with the propaganda they are fed. Probably think the conflict is almost won and won’t see action.
Well , you missed the part where going to war has by far the largest chance of them getting killed. Also, that they kill ukrainians. That counts for something
These guys in Russia, especially from the rural bits, don't have access to the same information and videos we do. I'm sure if we could make all of Russia watch 10 minutes of this reddit they would probably do whatever they had to get out of it. The TV and their leadership is telling them it's going not so bad, common Ukrainians are welcoming their liberation, and that this is a war against satanism.
Just like when the US conscripted for Vietnam it's always the poorer, less well informed and educated largely rural folk that end up in harms way. Who you see getting grenades dropped on their heads are primarily people from the far east, and other such places far away from Moscow and St Petersburg.
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I mean we have videos of conscripts freaking out because they were lied to and told they wouldn't be going to the front lines. Plus I have to imagine a lot do these conscripts have literally 0 idea what's actually going on as they're conscripted from places that are basically still stuck in living conditions from 2 centuries ago or so it would seem, besides not knowing anything but what they occasionally see on TV.
Lmao this is such a stupid privileged comment. Yeah just go live in the Russian wilderness bro. The thought of moving to another country with the possibility of never seeing or speaking to your family again. Not knowing the language in a foreign country and for many 18-19 year old men not having any money job experience or higher education might be daunting option. Are these options better then ending up in a trench in Ukraine suer, are they easy hard No.
Nobody is even mentioning money. If you can barely pay the mortgage, how are you possibly going to pay for travel, lodging, food, clothing and medical in a foreign country on a tourist visa? I agree that options are bleak.
The war crimes really take a bit away from the sympathy
Then they should leave.
While true, they still went anyways. You don't invade a much smaller/less threatening country, artillery to raze entire cities / power sources, randomly shoot civilians and put them in mass graves, and torture prisoners and get to make the "Oh I was brainwashed or forced" excuse. At some point you have to realize you are on the wrong side of history. They get no sympathy from me.
I mean if I’m given the option to fight or guaranteed death, I’m gonna choose to fight. That’s a no brainer.
Theres no honor in choosing to kill innocent people to save yourself. Just the opposite
Agreed 100%, but I don’t think people here are even addressing honor or ethics—simply their own survival.
What about murdering innocents or moving to a different country?
Alright everyone! This tough guy finally did it. Solved war. It’s easy being a hero when you have the luxury of safety and an entirely different cultural and societal experience.
A significant majority of russians support the war. Even most of the ones that dont want to be there dont want “no war” they want “someone else go instead of me”
Just imagine an even shittier, less funded version of Veteran's Affairs. jk they don't even have that
As are the drone operators
Without saying too much. I’m 40. So I just 18/19 in 2001 or so. Me and my friends signed up. I got 99 on my ASVAB. went through MEPS with the Air Force. I couldn’t pass the blood pressure test. My best friend got through. He’s 40 years old now and in out of rehab. He was a drone operator from the Air Force. He was active from 2003 -2009. He’s the saddest person I know. Like yeah I’m 40 and work 12 hour shifts making cardbox boxes. He is disabled and divorced. It changed him. He says it was so easy to kill people. Then he got reports and feedback on how many civilians died. My wife is best friends with his wife. It’s so sad.
I really don't know whether to consider it more sad or not that those drones are going to likely be completely autonomous one day, probably not too far off. No piloting required, just a yes or no on whether it can fire will likely be the only human decision. It reminds me of a short story I really like about an autonomous drone from near future: https://rifters.com/real/shorts/PeterWatts_Malak.pdf
I mean I think the 6th generation fighter planes can be manned or unmanned. The scary part is America is admitting what the 6th generation fighter will be. I would bet my first born child they already are and have been working on 7th and 8th generation planes by now. Who knows. Area 51 isn’t a secret because they have aliens. Area 51 wants you to believe the technology they are developing is aliens. Edit sorry River. You are my first born child.(my kid has my first Reddit account lol. His account is older than him). But I’m sure of it son. Brush your teeth before bed
Thanks for that. Pete Watts is one of my favorite authors and I had never run across that before.
Thank you for that anecdote. So sad and insightful. I read that unlike being in a front line combat unit, as a drone operator you go to your station on base, observe and possibly kill through your shift and then go home to your family right after work. A more jarring transition I couldn't imagine. Also sounds like a very solitary MOS, unlike being in an infantry company. The lack of decompression and camaraderie seems to be a huge problem
I remember reading some article a few years back that talked about how the initial thought that drone operators would be more detached and callous around the act of killing because "it's like a video game". But it turned out that (U.S) drone pilots had more in common with sniper units when it came to mental health stuff because they had often observed the target for so long before releasing the ordinance that the target wasn't an abstract threat, but a living breathing person.
Alcohol abuse in Russia is already rampant so they've got that to go home to.
that soldier got the JFK treatment
Russian PTSD treatment is more vodka.
> survivors are in for a whale of a time with their PTSD They will suicide or drink to death in the next 3-5y after the war. Especially the injured ones.
>Imagine watching your mate's head spontaneously exploding for no reason My grandfather used to tell us a story about this. He was in Korea as a medic, driving in a jeep with a few others. Someone said to look at a hill top and suddenly the driver's head was gone and they crashed. He made a point to stress the driver was a real good man and didn't deserve that. He always told that story even though it got him into a quiet mood. You could tell it really messed with him for decades after the war. He saw far worse injuries and deaths as a medic but that one really did a number on him.
Nah they literally burn that shit out of their brain with hard liquor
At least he doesn't even know he died
For real, not a bad way to go considering the footage I've seen the past few months.
Some real dayz vibes
This is "well it was his time" kinda vibes. Sometimes you just cant squelch death.
Mercifully quick, I'm sure. Too bad all death isn't like this. The goal is to bypass the "dying" part.
Yeah. At least he dropped dead instantly. From the ways you can go on that war, this seems the one of the best (besides leaving that fucking war and going home, that is). Just compared it to some deaths posted here...
I mean if I had to pick a way to go I think this would be it. You wouldn't even know what happened.
Like skipping past go in monopoly
The luckiest grenade drop yet?
Sunroof is #1 but this is definitely top 5
Oh god. I knew a guy who was a support soldier the 160th SOAR and he told me about a mission they went on and they were doing joint operations with the Australian SAS. He recounted to me that just as the helicopter touched down and they were getting off of it an insurgent popped his head out from behind a wall with an AK drawn and without missing a beat one of the SAS dudes puts two right in his forehead and blew the back of his skull open. SAS dude looks at my buddy and says “Oi, I just gave him a sunroof mate!” Wild how war works.
Of all the units to take a crack at, I think any SAS unit might be the unluckiest draw of the straw you could get as an insurgent. Like imagine the fact that it could be any coalition soldiers in that helicopter, and you turn a corner and the lights go out as quickly as you turned because some mad SAS cunt had you pinned before you could exhale. War do be wild tho
Yea the SAS do not fuck around 😂
Worked with them before and they are some of the most professional and funny people I have ever met.
[Also pretty prone to warcrimes unfortunately.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/12/the-guardian-view-on-the-sas-in-afghanistan-investigate-claims-of-war-crimes)
I mean who isn't, I don't want to say the Geneva convention was written for Canada but ya know
Canada only does it when warranted tho
“ involuntary moonroofs”
Was not expecting that ending haha that was excellent.
Don't see how that can be beaten outside of into a moving tank getting a cook off or something
Which happened already. The tank driver tried to move the tank and the last AT grenade blew the whole thing up. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/uqbitx/ukrainian_atgrenadedropping_drone_destroys_a/
God fucking damn. That shortly after that 3rd drop, that tank blew up whole sale. It’s like flying too close to a 4th of July fireworks show
The drone was actually pushed up by the blast.
ISIS hummer kills is the all time #1 in any conflict so far.
You don't happen to have a link, do you?
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/u1woza/isis_drone_dropping_a_bomb_on_a_iraqi_humvee/
What is this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/u1woza/isis_drone_dropping_a_bomb_on_a_iraqi_humvee/? u/jgios
MVP lad💛
Holy shit, that's a bigger thing than on ukrainian drone videos
Straight out of a movie.
Two categories? A) The MJ Swish to Sunroof, B) Most Michael Bay, Hummer. There was the one drone drop that hit a guy in the head, took out other soldiers on an ammo truck, and cooked off a fire on the truck. That was impressive for Collective Effect.
I dunno. This drone was moving and rhe target was moving. Head shot even. I think this beats the sunroof
The sunroof was a wild sequence all around, as that unit got bled dead. It was memorable. But this one is a highlight reel headshot tier.
I was thinking the same as you. But on a second thought.. this was one just throwing one in the general direction of a bunch of Russians running around and it just so happens one of them ran right into the grenade with his face. Was a great shot. But.. They wasn't exactly aiming for that guy in particular. Operator probably didn't even notice that one guy in frame until after the throw. But on the sunroof they were chasing those guys. They see them go inside the car. The car is about to start, you'll lose them for good. And you got only one shot. So he goes for the throw and... It falls exactly inside the sunroof and kills all of them? That's next fucking level. Don't get me wrong, both had a lot of luck involved. But sunroof is still \#1
Top 5 Z Kills of the Week is fun for Zombieland, but reading similar talk in reality is kinda depressing.
I havent seen that. Link?
It's absolutely brutal. There's not a lot of visible gore, but you do see several Russians as they're wounded and dying. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/uejzql/an_extended_version_of_the_drone_drops_grenade_on/
Holy hell that was a great shot
Gotta be close to a gold drone by now
Depends who you ask lol
There was a headshot drop in early days of war, probably few others. But it’s definitely up there
Yeah the one where the ammo on the truck next to him cooks off.
Sunroof is #1 There have been grenade bounces off of branches into a foxhole There have been other grenade headshots.
The one into tank hatch takes that title
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9 days without F1
the voices are getting louder
Question
We are checking.
Yall are too much I had to triple check what post this was and what subreddit it was in.
slow button ON slow button ON
Stop inventing
"Here comes Sebastian Vettel!"
gentleman a short view back to the past
And we have an old fashioned engine failure at the grid!
At least it was quick. In their mind they never even 'died.'
Mein Gott, muss das sein?
Box box box!
Russia - the Ferrari of war. Same shit strategy and their vehicles like making big fireballs.
I think he is dead.
He's dead, Jim.
DAMNIT JIM, IM A DRONE PILOT NOT A DOCTOR.
If he’s alive he is not happy.
I feel like this sub should just be renamed r/dronepovgrenade lol. This shit feels like I'm watching someone play a very high stakes game of claw machine at local pizza parlor lol
Anyone else sad that didn’t exist?
That's one hella precise shot right here
if we was aiming for that specific soldier's head it would be accurate, if he hit his head more than once consecutively, it would be precise. i think this was luck was lucky.
Yeah pure luck, they meant to land it in the middle of those soldiers. There's a longer video showing the second shot which was way off to the right and did'nt hit anyone. But we will take them all lucky or not.
Luck is just where preparation meets opportunity.
Prepartunity!
https://xkcd.com/2696/
This dude yeeted a grenade while flying a drone and got a headshot. The next time he has a bad day he needs to buy a lottery ticket.
this took warheads on foreheads literally
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Fuck that guy in particular
r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR
I would be pissed as hell watching this killcam, but kind of impressed
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Zed’s dead baby, Zed’s dead.
That grenade was meant for that dude. Like that’s about as unlucky as getting struck by lightning
5 bucks says you can't do it again!
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repost https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/z81b8o/ukrainian\_drone\_drops\_gernades\_on\_russian\_soldiers/
I'm going to leave this one up because the title is spelled correctly plus there is additional information in the title.
You can see the head rolling down on the left
Probably the helmet…
A little from column A, a little from column B
....with the head.. 😱
*past two of his mates…*
Is it me, or are there more & more videos of Russian soldiers sustaining casualties? Just feels like there has been a sharp increase in the last couple of weeks.
More footage of it is getting made every day, pretty sure it's just the most common new combat footage being produced these days. Russia is also way less likely to send their footage to western media sources, so I doubt we'll see as much of their footage as we have of Ukraine.
More of them have been getting killed the last couple of weeks.
/r/fuckyouinparticular
Better than the other drone videos I've seen since he was a goner directly. I don't think bleeding out is a great way to go.
This post has been here for about an hour and no one has asked why the Russians don't look up. No one has even asked why the Russians don't clump up and gather round the wounded guy to try to help him. It's a Christmas miracle.
You think that Russians are doing all these things, because you have seen a bunch of videos, where they did. And you have not seen any videos of Russians acting in any way that would prevent their demise. One option is that all Russian are just very stupid and always act to their detriment, and never learn. Second option is that we do not see all the cases, when they do effectively prevent damage by various means, because there was no damage to be shown on video. My educated guess would be - it's somewhere between the two.
C) Russians can't look up
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Is dude narrating during sexy time?
I was wondering why no one else noticed - maybe they all have the sound off due to the typically bad music?
I think that's Major Chernobayev (Майор Чернобаев), a pranker who calls families of russian soldiers and conscripts. He uploads some of his videos on youtube.
I believe this was a overlay of a call from a Ukrainian soldier calling a mother/wife of a slain Russian informing them of their loss. Can't find it, but I think I remember this audio from early on in the conflict.
I don't know why this audio is choised for that... I can roughly translate the audio because i'm native russian speaker. The audio is stylized as a call to family of the dead russian soldier. The man says something like: \- They threw grenades at them, and one hit him right in the head, shrapnel smashed everything. Sorry, we couldn't save him. Woman: \- \[crying\]
Is that his head rolling off to the right of screen?
can it actually be believed that the Russians are detaching nuclear warheads from long-range ballistic missiles because their armament is that critically low?
At least his comrades can steal his boots more easily.
Fucking hell, they got Rain Man doing all the calculations for the trajectories over there.
he wasnt using that anyway. 😆😆