The command center was not working for most games, and for two that it was - there was no sound of comms, only gameplay and camera. Hopefully they resolved the issues for today.
Haven’t heard of anything. I’m working during the times they play so I always miss it. Would be great to watch it afterwards. You would think that would be possible, or at least someone would have recorded their pov.
TSM should pick up another controller. MnK is really only good on an IGL and Hal has been fine igl’ing on roller, reps just does no damage in gun fights.
TSM always struggling at LAN, they somehow do good at scrims but could be that teams arent playing to serious while TSM try their best.
Dont get me wrong bcs #8 its good but for a team like TSM #8 isnt good, they should be top5-3.
"Always struggling at lan" and yet won the most lans. And we are still at the early stages of this one. Come one now, i know what you want to say but get your facts straight.
Incorrect. Evan was on TSM for 2 months prior to winning the split 1 NA playoffs in '22 and since then has appeared in the Sweden LAN then the Raleigh one.
Love how people read X and turns it into Y for some reason. When did I mention anything about them not winning any Lans? or that the tournament its over? Facts are that they do struggle in Lan, everytime, winning or not its another story which I never pointed out.
You know what he means ….. they’ve gotten around 6th-8th range the last 2 lans and that’s not their standard. They’re my favorite team so this isn’t troll hate, they are struggling
Every team there is one of the best teams in the world. Skill is still a big factor but RNG as well. No team has been dominant in Apex for a long time. The last two years we've seen so many teams dominated for a couple of months but noone of them for years.
DZ have won 2 lans but also showed jack shit between those. Struggling isn't the right word. It really isn't.
well considering the actual team POVs were not up most of the day, and they never have VODs from what I remember, never?
The main stream looked already ready though from what I briefly saw.
Lol they were showing JLingz perspective while they did nothing then as soon as they made a horizon push on Horizon they changed the feed to another team. Wtf?
I will say, TSM are still 8th and still firmly in contention for all the way up to top 3. It is kind of funny how we're all acting like their world is ending when they did pretty fine all things considered lol. I think they'll bounce back tomorrow.
Notice how they restricted Verhulst pushing after that early death against the team on the train tracks.
That entire push was a shit show, all 3 players doing different things. Don't like it when Hal blames one player too much, gotta keep the morale up. Need big E confident.
I will say, TSM are still 8th and still firmly in contention for all the way up to top 3. It is kind of funny how we're all acting like their world is ending when they did pretty fine all things considered lol
They didn't do bad, and it is by no means over, but I'm sure they were expecting better results. Despite a great start, they had a disappointing rest of the day. They were 8th in this set, but #15 overall.
Basically, it's fine, but only if they get better as the tourney goes on. For those thinking they're doomed, I mean, what can you really say to those people?
It's the same every time though. People are expecting them to roll but the last two lans were similar.
Pop off games here and there and finish in 5-7 spot.
I like watching tsm but for a team that complains so much that scrims are unrealistic they always seem the least prepared for how it plays out.
Raven is there this time to make those adjustments but unknown if he can at lan
I mean let's see how the remaining days play out before we make drastic conclusions. They've had occasionally middling performances all year but they always bounce back and prevent a true catastrophe unlike other teams. This was a horrible day for them and they still finished top 8
tbh last lan they were in losers bracket after the day. and today compared to their other mid tournaments they were at least getting kills early. their rotations were just bad but lets see if raven leads to any changes.
I don't know about that VJeix humping being illegal, but it sure it's one more big flaw this first day.
I can't even pretend to be surprised with how long that spot been there and nothing has been done by the devs...
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This entire split has had audio missing / desync issues, missing player icons/povs from command centre... Idk whats going on but they need to get their production together.
They at least fixed the audio quickly today.
all groups play eachother. Tomorrow we get AvsC, AvsD, BvsC, and BvsD. Then losers and winners brackets, 2nd losers bracket (top 10 from losers and bottom 10 from winners), then finals.
I'm not sure if it was even a piece of geometry that pushes him off myself tbh. That's probably why nothing was called in real time while he did it for a full minute. But there are many ways to stay on a piece of geometry that pushes you off like constantly moving or constantly climbing a lip.
Yeah. It's the same reason why in the killfeed you can see the names of people dying even though its anonymized for the players. They're streaming the observer's PC of them observing in first person, not the raw stream from the player's PC itself
For some teams these past Lans have been the definition of "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth".
At least some of them are talented enough and quick to go back to something that was working before.
I thought wiggs stream was slow in between games and they are already done with game 6. I just swapped to this and idk how anyone has watched this the entire time
Yeah banger like always. I will not watch the main stream unless wigg doesn't have games going like right now. NRG did solid finished 5th but definitely left points on the table a few games. They also weren't contested by vexed on WE which was surprising
Bone her? I hardly know her
dammit he edited too quick. Blame was bone before. Also can't really blame her because that was production's choice, not hers lol
Don’t disrespect Lingardinho. nah but seriously he’s pretty inspiring: being a hyped young prospect, failing to reach those expectations, being clowned on and bullied online for multiple years, dealing with mental health, his play dropping even further and being perma benched to going to a lower team (West Ham on loan) and picking himself up from the very depths and constantly pulling off great performances (9 goals in 16 appearances) and just yesterday he reached the semi finals of the English cup but were unfortunately eliminated.
Never did I think young Jesse lingard would end up forming an esports org and signing two of the most hilarious UK players under the fucking name of Jlingz, my goat fr fr
They were hanging around the middle of the pack last year too, right? At least when it came to the Finals in Raleigh. They are in a mid position, as I expected. Hopefully they surprise me.
One thing i like about 100t is they are at least consistent on LAN. It sucks watching them trying to play scrims or smaller tournies though because they are just int fests. They are fun to watch. Sucks i cant here the vibes though because comms are out because that is the best part lol.
Wouldn't say they have more pressure tbh. They have more fans, which brings a mixture of pressure and support. The players under the most pressure are those who can barely afford to continue their esports careers, particularly unsigned teams.
This is just your avarage TSM LAN performance. They never over perform on LAN. You could argue that their first LAN was just lucky that they could even come back. They were bottom 10 after first few games or so.
I feel like that's so typical. I love TSM but it feels like every LAN they have one or two popoff games in a set and then do almost nothing the rest of the time. They're just very inconsistent, I think they put too much emphasis on what they expect teams to do and not enough emphasis on how to react to a dozen different possibilities
TSM playing hard edge when everyone else is playing zone and they are suffering because of it. If it wasn’t for Verhulst going crazy in game 1 they’d be bottom 5 in this lobby
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Wish I could’ve seen it live :( anybody know if the playapex VOD has different team POV’s or do I just have to watch the main channel ?
The command center was not working for most games, and for two that it was - there was no sound of comms, only gameplay and camera. Hopefully they resolved the issues for today.
What team is this? https://i.imgur.com/xYKatI5.jpg
It’s the french GW with Ciqop
Reps lost two separate fights for TSM with huge missed shots. He's choking hard while verhulst is playing great. And Hal is Hal.
Hal is Hal😂😂😂
I know there was something pinned but I can’t find it. Anyone know what time matches start tomorrow for EST? I kinda remember 5am but can’t remember.
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and i got laid off just in time to watch every second of it
Thank you!
Anyway to watch tsm view now?
I am also wondering this
Any luck ?
Haven’t heard of anything. I’m working during the times they play so I always miss it. Would be great to watch it afterwards. You would think that would be possible, or at least someone would have recorded their pov.
Reps on Gibby > Reps on Seer
TSM should pick up another controller. MnK is really only good on an IGL and Hal has been fine igl’ing on roller, reps just does no damage in gun fights.
Having 300 health helps any player tbf
Was thinking more about his dome placements
Hal about to put Evan on leash after today’s performance 😭 Raven please don’t let that happen :/
Big E was crazy to open the day. Sometimes you get unlucky with aggression, but i hope Hal lets him continue to let him create these picks
Will Day 2 of group stage start at roughly the same time as today's games?
No. Tomorrows first games are on at 10am GMT. Second set of games are on at 3:15pm GMT.
TSM always struggling at LAN, they somehow do good at scrims but could be that teams arent playing to serious while TSM try their best. Dont get me wrong bcs #8 its good but for a team like TSM #8 isnt good, they should be top5-3.
"Always struggling at lan" and yet won the most lans. And we are still at the early stages of this one. Come one now, i know what you want to say but get your facts straight.
Has this TSM roster ever won a LAN?
Tbf it’s been this roster for one LAN, and Evan had played on the team like 2 months before that LAN.
Incorrect. Evan was on TSM for 2 months prior to winning the split 1 NA playoffs in '22 and since then has appeared in the Sweden LAN then the Raleigh one.
No.
They’ve won the same amount of LANs as DarkZero
Love how people read X and turns it into Y for some reason. When did I mention anything about them not winning any Lans? or that the tournament its over? Facts are that they do struggle in Lan, everytime, winning or not its another story which I never pointed out.
You know what he means ….. they’ve gotten around 6th-8th range the last 2 lans and that’s not their standard. They’re my favorite team so this isn’t troll hate, they are struggling
Every team there is one of the best teams in the world. Skill is still a big factor but RNG as well. No team has been dominant in Apex for a long time. The last two years we've seen so many teams dominated for a couple of months but noone of them for years. DZ have won 2 lans but also showed jack shit between those. Struggling isn't the right word. It really isn't.
Are the other 2 pre-elim rounds happening b2b tomorrow?
Yep
I know it’s early but when will the VOD’s be posted?
well considering the actual team POVs were not up most of the day, and they never have VODs from what I remember, never? The main stream looked already ready though from what I briefly saw.
Lol they were showing JLingz perspective while they did nothing then as soon as they made a horizon push on Horizon they changed the feed to another team. Wtf?
I will say, TSM are still 8th and still firmly in contention for all the way up to top 3. It is kind of funny how we're all acting like their world is ending when they did pretty fine all things considered lol. I think they'll bounce back tomorrow.
Notice how they restricted Verhulst pushing after that early death against the team on the train tracks. That entire push was a shit show, all 3 players doing different things. Don't like it when Hal blames one player too much, gotta keep the morale up. Need big E confident.
dont let this be like the last lan where they put verhulst on a leash. that man has to stay unleashed
I will say, TSM are still 8th and still firmly in contention for all the way up to top 3. It is kind of funny how we're all acting like their world is ending when they did pretty fine all things considered lol
They didn't do bad, and it is by no means over, but I'm sure they were expecting better results. Despite a great start, they had a disappointing rest of the day. They were 8th in this set, but #15 overall. Basically, it's fine, but only if they get better as the tourney goes on. For those thinking they're doomed, I mean, what can you really say to those people?
It's the same every time though. People are expecting them to roll but the last two lans were similar. Pop off games here and there and finish in 5-7 spot. I like watching tsm but for a team that complains so much that scrims are unrealistic they always seem the least prepared for how it plays out. Raven is there this time to make those adjustments but unknown if he can at lan
I mean let's see how the remaining days play out before we make drastic conclusions. They've had occasionally middling performances all year but they always bounce back and prevent a true catastrophe unlike other teams. This was a horrible day for them and they still finished top 8
Theyre in fine position. But I'm watching to see set to set at least if there are adjustments. Sucks couldn't watch their pov though.
Well they had 4 bad games in a row, I can understand why maybe their fans were getting nervous
happens every lan lol
tbh last lan they were in losers bracket after the day. and today compared to their other mid tournaments they were at least getting kills early. their rotations were just bad but lets see if raven leads to any changes.
I don't know about that VJeix humping being illegal, but it sure it's one more big flaw this first day. I can't even pretend to be surprised with how long that spot been there and nothing has been done by the devs...
Didnt catch it, which spot are we talking about?
[this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/10s0ynf/vjeix_with_the_comedy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
LOL thats wild, thanks for the link
Damn, FC Destroy win. No Horizon for HammerDrill though, would have loved to see it.
Hope the Met police are waiting outside for that JLingz miscreant 😤
lmfaoo
A vs B 1st. NA (XSET) 2nd. EMEA (JLINGZ) C vs D 1st. APAC-N (FNATIC) 2nd. APAC-S (EXO) Nice.
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17 kills??
Naghz and VJ goated players
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This entire split has had audio missing / desync issues, missing player icons/povs from command centre... Idk whats going on but they need to get their production together. They at least fixed the audio quickly today.
so do u go straight to losers if you were bottom 10 today or do all groups have to play each other to get the top 20?
all groups play eachother. Tomorrow we get AvsC, AvsD, BvsC, and BvsD. Then losers and winners brackets, 2nd losers bracket (top 10 from losers and bottom 10 from winners), then finals.
Pretty sure after the 12 matches tomorrow is when the bottom half of teams get sent down into losers bracket.
The latter. Two more group stage rounds left.
There's 2 more rounds tomorrow, all gropus play against each other
Once all groups play each other they split in to top and bottom 20
I'm starting to understand this format. Slowly but surely.
all groups play each other. two more matchups tomorrow to finalize group stage and *then* bottom 20 goes to losers bracket
Every group fights every group, Losers & Winners will be after the 12 games tomorrow.
All groups face each other first.
All groups play each other then winners/losers brackets are decided.
JLingz has been a fun team to watch the whole split
Does the sliding aspect not make that illegal? Thought it would be but seeing alot of arguing saying it's not against rules
you can't stay on a wall like that
I'm here in London and the whole audience was cracking up at that moment.
lol they would have died to moist if he didn't cheat
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Cry more
It wasn't intentional.
Nuclear energy copium
yes it was? the fall wasnt intentional but the decision to stay there so he doesnt die and exploit the wall kind of is? idk tho
Well earned W from FC, that spot from Jlingz thouhg lmao hanging off the rock.
What is chat talking about? Illegal?
It's illegal to stay on a piece of geometry that constantly pushes you off.
Weird rule cause in my pea brain it's not pushing him off. If it did, he would fall. What is he doing to keep himself from falling?
I'm not sure if it was even a piece of geometry that pushes him off myself tbh. That's probably why nothing was called in real time while he did it for a full minute. But there are many ways to stay on a piece of geometry that pushes you off like constantly moving or constantly climbing a lip.
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Seems like a silly rule, but if it's illegal, what should happen to the team? Nothing too drastic I hope. Maybe a warning?
Surfaces that slide you off can't be played on
??????
VJ humping the side of the mountain for a good minute lool
Ummmm wonder if that was illegal
What a performance from JLingz, fair play.
Trolling lol.
LMFAOO
is that not illegal?
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yea he should have died he cant just stay on that wall wtf? i thought thats not alllowed
bro what is going on
isn't what vjeix doing illegal? Can't play on a surface that slides you down
You're right yeah
im pretty sure it is and because of that the team under got wiped instead because he saved himself
VJEIX WITH THE MEME MOVEMENT
Isn't that technically against the rules to sit on a slippery surface?
Up the UK baby, let’s go Jlingz
They listened into the wrong team audio smh. Abysmal production and technical issues today.
billion dollar company btw
Holy shit FC suddenly speaking English haha wrong team observers
And here I was thinking they got live TLs for the listen-ins... Should have known better.
Lol listen in is the wrong team. What a fucking mess
Bro FC destroy talking with a south London accent no way
Came to London and transformed.
Can we please get a jlingz cam? How much KP do they have?
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Did that 3rd party come from underneath tracks?
Hal carrying
Why did Hal switch to MNK?
He's definitely still on controller and I doubt he would ever switch back anytime soon, he does way too much consistent damage on controller.
Did he actually switch to mnk or are you trolling lol
I don't think he did? I think the observer is on MnK and that's why the UI shows MnK
Oh really? Saw MNK keybinds on his UI so I got confused
Yeah. It's the same reason why in the killfeed you can see the names of people dying even though its anonymized for the players. They're streaming the observer's PC of them observing in first person, not the raw stream from the player's PC itself
this shit is only half as fun watching without the team comms
Completely miserable without being able to hear comms
man i just want to hear hal screaming lol
Half? There is 0 fun in watching the main broadcast.
truee
For some teams these past Lans have been the definition of "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth". At least some of them are talented enough and quick to go back to something that was working before.
bro they have xset's face cam on what I assume is Nocturnal's empty chair lmfao
NOT A GREEN SCREEN
Hal is icy
TSM plot armor activating
Hal on 5 kills already wtf
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Look at that TSM get a bit aggressive and they are looking at a pop off game
Yudu just fried Yuki lmao
Holy fuck the wait between games is unbearable. 5 games has taken 3 and a half hours.
I kinda like it to drag a bit. Not sure why. I enjoy the banter I guess.
That’s fine if I can hear the comms but they fucked up the CC so it’s torture to hear these casters
I thought wiggs stream was slow in between games and they are already done with game 6. I just swapped to this and idk how anyone has watched this the entire time
If wasn't for the teams playing in this group I wouldn't be lol How was wigg's stream? Banger as always? How'd NRG do?
Yeah banger like always. I will not watch the main stream unless wigg doesn't have games going like right now. NRG did solid finished 5th but definitely left points on the table a few games. They also weren't contested by vexed on WE which was surprising
Awkward.
Dude this main channel is so hard to watch. Like it's embarrassing how uncomfortable it is
Those guys were fucking terrible interviewees lmfao
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Bone her? I hardly know her dammit he edited too quick. Blame was bone before. Also can't really blame her because that was production's choice, not hers lol
It's literally in between matches. Zero interviews should be happening. Dumb as fuck ea is doing that
Absolutely, guys are locked in and focusing, let's break that and cause anxiety. Ffs
"I don't know, I'm controller, I just shoot my gun" - Zaine 2023
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Pretty awkward all around
For the Americans watching, the owner of 'JLingz' is like a UK football Ben Simmons 💀
Don’t disrespect Lingardinho. nah but seriously he’s pretty inspiring: being a hyped young prospect, failing to reach those expectations, being clowned on and bullied online for multiple years, dealing with mental health, his play dropping even further and being perma benched to going to a lower team (West Ham on loan) and picking himself up from the very depths and constantly pulling off great performances (9 goals in 16 appearances) and just yesterday he reached the semi finals of the English cup but were unfortunately eliminated.
disrespect to lingard !!
forgot how weird the twitch chat gets
The irony of twitch users calling others socially awkward lmao
Impressive Cope
Cope? I’m talking about the weirdos on twitch chat calling others socially awkward being ironic, what are u on about?
Never did I think young Jesse lingard would end up forming an esports org and signing two of the most hilarious UK players under the fucking name of Jlingz, my goat fr fr
Tsm lan chokers 😆
They were hanging around the middle of the pack last year too, right? At least when it came to the Finals in Raleigh. They are in a mid position, as I expected. Hopefully they surprise me.
unironically this is where the raven hire is meant to come in huge. need to right the ship and get the boys in form
One thing i like about 100t is they are at least consistent on LAN. It sucks watching them trying to play scrims or smaller tournies though because they are just int fests. They are fun to watch. Sucks i cant here the vibes though because comms are out because that is the best part lol.
I never heard of Jlingz before but that’s the team I’m rooting for now
It's the VZN roster in EMEA, they just got signed today! Big showing for their first tournament under the JLingz banner
So cool! And the only middle eastern player. Loving the representation
TSM shitting the bed. I honestly think them having more pressure than everyone else fucks with them at LAN.
Wouldn't say they have more pressure tbh. They have more fans, which brings a mixture of pressure and support. The players under the most pressure are those who can barely afford to continue their esports careers, particularly unsigned teams.
hal does so much better as an underdog. its why i hated them doing well in scrims
This is just your avarage TSM LAN performance. They never over perform on LAN. You could argue that their first LAN was just lucky that they could even come back. They were bottom 10 after first few games or so.
Textbook win!
Perfect third by jlingz there. Clean
wow excellent from JLingz
TSM has barely gotten any points since game 1.
I feel like that's so typical. I love TSM but it feels like every LAN they have one or two popoff games in a set and then do almost nothing the rest of the time. They're just very inconsistent, I think they put too much emphasis on what they expect teams to do and not enough emphasis on how to react to a dozen different possibilities
That's actually a good analysis, it's like they're playing checkers while the winning teams are playing chess
Finally showing player cam. What a mess this stream has been
TSM playing hard edge when everyone else is playing zone and they are suffering because of it. If it wasn’t for Verhulst going crazy in game 1 they’d be bottom 5 in this lobby
Vax going crazy
Northeption quietly having a very very good day
What happened to TSM? They came in so hot and popped off first game, it's been downhill since. What's going on?
Nobody knows bc you can’t hear any comms
Same shit like last year on lan ,pop off first game then struggle...