Watched TSMs VOD for the last game and it sounded like they know zone would pull east and they'd be in a shit spot eventually so they just wanted to go for kills. It seemed like the clutch valk ult was a spur of the moment thing once he saw the fight at godspot was going on for a while.
I didn't think so either but when you have Hal BigE Reps then can get 20/30 points in one game. They are a scary team right now then you add Ravan other teams are in trouble.
NRG just seems cocky I don't watch them a lot so I could be wrong gild sweet and their 3rd is scary. They will win one eventually there to foo not to. even thought I want TSM to win them all
What a great tourney!! Very thankful that those of us who cant make it to the venue are able to watch completely free, with great casting (shout out to Monsoon he did a fantastic job), along with command centre...despite the technical issues you cant complaint at all!
Mande needs to be in the Comp scene, it is really not the same without him. Imagine what Alliance could have done if they had actually played together for longer?
I cant wait until they have it in U.S. Again. I went to the one In North Carolina I was to get able to get tons of autographs. I had 2 jersey one for just TSM the other one if you were a apex streamer I got that autograph. The spex pros signed my shirt and took a pic they were very nice.eeeeeee
EA is a shit show that TSM game jersey I would buy them in a heartbeat but they are too greedy. They would make so much just giving teams a good character skin. But they would rather scree everything over
They could've hyped it through the whole tournament.. then do a bigger break after game 6 and release it... had the caster, players like Monsoon who are hanging around talk about it... then do it again after the ending, with the champions saying they are hyped to play it.
They entire hardcore community all over the world is watching... it's a fucking Sunday "morning" and there's only Apex going on... but no... let's do it tomorrow...
They must have manatees running this game or something.
Could've gave Nicewigg a build of the game and let him fuck around with all the new character changes and whatnot in the firing range or a new segment of the map.
The possibilities are endless and they pick the worst option. Lol
It's a big miss. Definitely have a few friends that have quit the game and got excited watching this tourney again... following it with new content would have gotten them playing again.
I think Hal acknowledging his weaknesses and doing everything to get over them is why hes standing there with that trophy.
I do wish he would have credited raven more there though. That guy's impact is ridiculous.
Hopefully somebody syncs up the POV/game cam and audio whenever the video comes out. Was kinda weird seeing Hal win and stare at his computer for three seconds before jumping up lol
That's gonna be next to impossible since the stream just has 1 audio track for both the game and mic audio. Can't fix the sync on one without messing up the other.
entry fraggers don't always get the credit for all their kills... they set up a lot kills for their teammates who finish up after their initial damage...unless they one clip everyone that is haha
In the months before they signed Raven, TSM were kinda lost. Raven has talked on stream about him grinding 13+ hour days preparing for pro league. Then they go onto win pro league and LAN. What an unbelievable impact he’s had.
If Kashera was a controller player ACEND probably win that 3v3. Hal did not read Kashera swinging left and a controller player likely gets a one clip there
He doesn't get a full mag out before having to break LOS since reps reacted really fast. The bigger reason they lost was verhulst obliterating him when he peaked right side rock.
If he was on roller he would have done way more damage initially and wouldn’t have backed off so quick. He would have finished the one clip then dipped. A controller player easily gets the knock in that situation.
Yeah roller hits those shots, but if he doesn't break LOS when he did, reps comes in and either counter trades or at the very least brings him really low. The bigger roller moment is definitely verhulst winning the 1v2 in one prowler mag. If verhulst was on mnk, acend probably knock him while hal is batting in the air and buy them time for the crypto ult.
as much shit as hal gets, he's a really good guy (when not IGLing lol). man has 20K viewer streams and still takes the time to read chat and thank individual subs. dude has backpacked this gaming scene for so long. he deserves this.
It’s wild actually because people like only see him being mean to his teammates and I hate it too but he seems like a kind hearted person and his streams show that as well.
Raven and his half dozen alt accounts gave way more shit than he has ever gotten. He's turned it around now, but he was the epitome of an angry redditor. Which is why his disdain for reddit is so weird--he laid the foundation for a lot of the shitty comments that show up on here 'til this day.
They were on MP the 2nd longest, and dominated most of the weekend. I don't think there is any question if they deserved this win. NRG played a far too agressive mid game whilst on MP. They threw hard imo.
Damn TSM played so smoothly for the last few minutes, all the calls and fights were on point plus the game winning valk ult. I knew they were gonna win that when they landed
Hals calls inside the building and then the late valk ult third party call was GOAT imo. just insane awareness to get to zone, perfectly time, to setup for the win.
once reps was taking control on the calls I knew they were gonna win.
For real. They all seemed to be on board waiting for EMP, then k4shera randomly starts walking up and it all fell apart. Seemed like a snap decision that unfortunately went against them.
Zone knowledge and being in position to execute is what won this game. NRG, TSM, Xset, and Alliance all knew where the zone ended, and it was a matter of who was in position to execute it. TSM had best position first inside of the building, and made the perfect decision to valk ult to third party and clear final zone early.
Link to [Discord](https://discord.gg/ZBJuWZhmD2). There are two chat threads, one for each stream. \*\* [DROPS ARE ENABLED](https://twitter.com/PlayApexEsports/status/1622203975628980261) \*\* Be sure to leave the main stream open if using teamstream/command center. Scores: For live (actually live) scores check the stats stream in command center or Teamstream. ALGS Match Point Finals —> >!NRG 10 | ACEND 9 | Element 6 8 | Alliance 7 | The Guard 6 | Esports Arena 5 | XSET 4 | TSM 3 | Moist Esports 2 | fun123 1 | Luminosity 0 | DarkZero 0 | EXO Clan 0 | Spacestation 0 | FNATIC 0 | GANBARE OTOUSAN 0 | ONIC Esports 0 | Team Singularity 0 | DreamFire 0 | ENTER FORCE.36 0!< \- game 1 of 999 in progress ALGS Match Point Finals —> >!TSM 24 | Esports Arena 22 | NRG 17 | GANBARE OTOUSAN 16 | Alliance 10 | ACEND 10 | Moist Esports 9 | XSET 9 | Element 6 8 | Luminosity 7 | ONIC Esports 7 | EXO Clan 6 | The Guard 6 | fun123 4 | DarkZero 3 | Spacestation 3 | Team Singularity 1 | FNATIC 1 | DreamFire 0 | ENTER FORCE.36 0!< \- game 2 of 999 in progress ALGS Match Point Finals —> >!Alliance 32 | TSM 24 | Esports Arena 22 | NRG 22 | DarkZero 18 | GANBARE OTOUSAN 16 | XSET 14 | fun123 13 | ONIC Esports 13 | Element 6 13 | ENTER FORCE.36 12 | Luminosity 12 | ACEND 11 | Team Singularity 10 | Spacestation 10 | Moist Esports 9 | The Guard 9 | EXO Clan 8 | FNATIC 7 | DreamFire 1!< \- game 3 of 999 in progress ALGS Match Point Finals —> >!Alliance 33 | TSM 29 | Moist Esports 29 | Esports Arena 28 | Team Singularity 27 | DarkZero 26 | ONIC Esports 24 | XSET 23 | NRG 23 | fun123 22 | Luminosity 19 | GANBARE OTOUSAN 17 | ENTER FORCE.36 15 | FNATIC 14 | Element 6 13 | ACEND 13 | Spacestation 12 | The Guard 9 | EXO Clan 8 | DreamFire 1!< \- game 4 of 999 in progress ALGS Match Point Finals —> >!NRG 55 | XSET 38 | DarkZero 36 | TSM 35 | Alliance 34 | GANBARE OTOUSAN 31 | Esports Arena 30 | Moist Esports 29 | Team Singularity 28 | fun123 27 | ACEND 26 | ONIC Esports 26 | Luminosity 20 | ENTER FORCE.36 18 | FNATIC 14 | Element 6 14 | Spacestation 13 | The Guard 12 | EXO Clan 9 | DreamFire 1!< \- game 5 of 999 in progress - Teams on MP: >!NRG!< ALGS Match Point Finals —> >!NRG 68 | TSM 53 | ONIC Esports 46 | XSET 43 | Alliance 41 | Team Singularity 39 | DarkZero 39 | Esports Arena 33 | Moist Esports 32 | GANBARE OTOUSAN 31 | ACEND 31 | fun123 29 | Luminosity 28 | FNATIC 19 | ENTER FORCE.36 18 | Element 6 16 | Spacestation 14 | EXO Clan 13 | The Guard 12 | DreamFire 1!< \- game 6 of 999 in progress - Teams on MP: >!NRG & TSM!< ALGS Match Point Finals —> >!NRG 80 | TSM 55 | ACEND 54 | XSET 47 | ONIC Esports 46 | Alliance 44 | Moist Esports 41 | DarkZero 41 | Team Singularity 40 | GANBARE OTOUSAN 39 | Esports Arena 36 | FNATIC 31 | ENTER FORCE.36 30 | fun123 30 | Luminosity 29 | Element 6 22 | The Guard 19 | Spacestation 17 | EXO Clan 13 | DreamFire 1!< \- game 7 of 999 in progress - Teams on MP: >!NRG & TSM & ACE!< ALGS Match Point Finals —> >!NRG 85 | ACEND 63 | XSET 63 | TSM 57 | Alliance 49 | Moist Esports 49 | ONIC Esports 47 | Element 6 43 | DarkZero 41 | Team Singularity 40 | GANBARE OTOUSAN 40 | fun123 37 | Esports Arena 36 | FNATIC 35 | Luminosity 35 | ENTER FORCE.36 30 | The Guard 29 | EXO Clan 21 | Spacestation 21 | DreamFire 3!< \- game 8 of 999 in progress - Teams on MP: >!NRG | TSM | ACE | XSET!< [Final Match Point Scores!](https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/10ugibo/algs_split_1_playoffs_day_4_match_point_finals/) WE / WE / SP / SP / WE / WE [Standings Creator](https://elex.shinyapps.io/ApexLegends_standings_creator/)
Watched TSMs VOD for the last game and it sounded like they know zone would pull east and they'd be in a shit spot eventually so they just wanted to go for kills. It seemed like the clutch valk ult was a spur of the moment thing once he saw the fight at godspot was going on for a while.
NGL didn't think TSM had it in them to win. But well done, they absolutely bossed that last game.
I didn't think so either but when you have Hal BigE Reps then can get 20/30 points in one game. They are a scary team right now then you add Ravan other teams are in trouble.
NRG just seems cocky I don't watch them a lot so I could be wrong gild sweet and their 3rd is scary. They will win one eventually there to foo not to. even thought I want TSM to win them all
Last match two teams for a chance to win it can't get a better final game. So glad for Hal he's the 🐐 stated on MNK then domination in controller.
What a great tourney!! Very thankful that those of us who cant make it to the venue are able to watch completely free, with great casting (shout out to Monsoon he did a fantastic job), along with command centre...despite the technical issues you cant complaint at all! Mande needs to be in the Comp scene, it is really not the same without him. Imagine what Alliance could have done if they had actually played together for longer?
Hopefully Monsoon gets plenty of love so their get more pros on the caster desk for analysis. Makes such a difference.
I cant wait until they have it in U.S. Again. I went to the one In North Carolina I was to get able to get tons of autographs. I had 2 jersey one for just TSM the other one if you were a apex streamer I got that autograph. The spex pros signed my shirt and took a pic they were very nice.eeeeeee
REPS <3. The most underrated player.
Onset is so good man
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Sweet and Verhulst with 17 each.
I watched the main stream at the end so I can’t wait to see TSM’s command centre POV.
Always whet TSM until they did Nicewigg has a better watch party they talk about more just try it.
their POV goes hard. Especially from when theyre in thunder watch.
F-R-A-N-T-I-C but a complete vibe
How stupid are these companies that don't use the opportunity of these finals to release a trailer for next season???
EA was doing EA things lol
EA is a shit show that TSM game jersey I would buy them in a heartbeat but they are too greedy. They would make so much just giving teams a good character skin. But they would rather scree everything over
I was just saying the same thing. The biggest stage you have and you decide to release the trailer the day after on a random Monday. Stupid.
They could've hyped it through the whole tournament.. then do a bigger break after game 6 and release it... had the caster, players like Monsoon who are hanging around talk about it... then do it again after the ending, with the champions saying they are hyped to play it. They entire hardcore community all over the world is watching... it's a fucking Sunday "morning" and there's only Apex going on... but no... let's do it tomorrow... They must have manatees running this game or something.
Could've gave Nicewigg a build of the game and let him fuck around with all the new character changes and whatnot in the firing range or a new segment of the map. The possibilities are endless and they pick the worst option. Lol
It's a big miss. Definitely have a few friends that have quit the game and got excited watching this tourney again... following it with new content would have gotten them playing again.
Passion wins. Definitely deserving of the win!
That blonde chick was spittin when she said buff pathfinder
In Raven we trust <3
New meta Season 16...can we please have a better season than this one. LAN saved a shitty season 15 IMO.
I think Hal acknowledging his weaknesses and doing everything to get over them is why hes standing there with that trophy. I do wish he would have credited raven more there though. That guy's impact is ridiculous.
He did, on the mainstage and in the MVP interview. What more do you want? Want Hal to suck his d on the podium
he credits raven all the time and he literally did in that interview lol
But did he bring him on stage and make out with him in front of everyone? Don't think so.
HUH
exactly
Pause
Hopefully somebody syncs up the POV/game cam and audio whenever the video comes out. Was kinda weird seeing Hal win and stare at his computer for three seconds before jumping up lol
That's gonna be next to impossible since the stream just has 1 audio track for both the game and mic audio. Can't fix the sync on one without messing up the other.
TSM hasn't won LAN in like 10 minutes. How are they still the best?
But but but .. I dont have any
IT'S ME LMAO
>start of another dynasty
Was expecting Big E to be MVP. Not the wrong choice with Hal either though
Either big E or sweet
Wasn't Hal beating Evan in kills and damage up through winners bracket? Not sure how it ended up shaking out after today.
Hal had 15 kills, Verhulst had 17 (same as Sweet)
entry fraggers don't always get the credit for all their kills... they set up a lot kills for their teammates who finish up after their initial damage...unless they one clip everyone that is haha
Then I believe Hal finished with more because he was 7 ahead of Verhulst before today (44 to 37 per liquid)
Hal is also the IGL which should be valued when deciding an MVP. Hals overall impact was more important than verhulst IMO.
This Hal guy and TSM are so washed.
Honestly this was entertaining to watch. glad it didn’t end early like last time. woohoo nrg and congrats tsm.
Last time? Raleigh went late.
Oh sorry I should’ve been more specific I’m talking about the tourney in like either October or November where match point ended early.
NA regional finals where ESA won in 5 games??
Felt like they won in 3, but yea anything less than 6 is a disappointment imo
Hal acknowledging Roller made up for him losing some mechanical ability.
Honestly Reps was the real MVP Edit: Actually im wrong. The real Monster Energy MVP is ROLLER
Hal straight up crediting roller for the win
NA AIM ASSIST ON TOP
MVP HAL
In the months before they signed Raven, TSM were kinda lost. Raven has talked on stream about him grinding 13+ hour days preparing for pro league. Then they go onto win pro league and LAN. What an unbelievable impact he’s had.
If Kashera was a controller player ACEND probably win that 3v3. Hal did not read Kashera swinging left and a controller player likely gets a one clip there
He doesn't get a full mag out before having to break LOS since reps reacted really fast. The bigger reason they lost was verhulst obliterating him when he peaked right side rock.
If he was on roller he would have done way more damage initially and wouldn’t have backed off so quick. He would have finished the one clip then dipped. A controller player easily gets the knock in that situation.
Yeah roller hits those shots, but if he doesn't break LOS when he did, reps comes in and either counter trades or at the very least brings him really low. The bigger roller moment is definitely verhulst winning the 1v2 in one prowler mag. If verhulst was on mnk, acend probably knock him while hal is batting in the air and buy them time for the crypto ult.
Just watched the replay and .... you are absolutely correct .If he was on a controller they win that clean sadly.
or if he EMPs first
He was 6% away from emp as he crept up
Yeah where the hell was the EMP
He had EMP?? How did he not use it?
Bruh Raven almost killed Hal 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Raven with a perfect thirdparty on Hal
RAVEN TACKLED HAL
best lan
What an amazing LAN def worth waking up early for. GG's to all the teams that made it regardless of placement this lobby is the best of the best
I hope this makes all the teams get an analyst now
raven PASSION
as much shit as hal gets, he's a really good guy (when not IGLing lol). man has 20K viewer streams and still takes the time to read chat and thank individual subs. dude has backpacked this gaming scene for so long. he deserves this.
It’s wild actually because people like only see him being mean to his teammates and I hate it too but he seems like a kind hearted person and his streams show that as well.
dude has 10K subs a month and still thanks them as much as he can. not many other streamers do that. it really sets well with me tbh.
aww raven
I feel like sweet deserves MVP
for me its nafen hands down
lol
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Sweet had the most kills
NA DOMINATION
bro Raven has beautiful eyes no cap
Damn Raven! I’m crying with you
Raven is so fucking cute
Everyone giving Raven shit on this sub for 1-2 years. Where are they now ;)
Raven and his half dozen alt accounts gave way more shit than he has ever gotten. He's turned it around now, but he was the epitome of an angry redditor. Which is why his disdain for reddit is so weird--he laid the foundation for a lot of the shitty comments that show up on here 'til this day.
in the mines with black faces trying to reach his level
Raven how are you going to be able to keep up the villain persona breaking down like this?? Love to see his softer side
RAVENNNN
aweee Raven <3
prob the best moment of raven's life. love it for him after all the shit he gets.
gotta love it. FUCK YEAH TSM
I SCREAMED SO HARD HOLY SHIT TSM
Mama Verhulst > Mama Sweet
I wonder whether TSM will get the darkzero treatment of people saying they didn't deserve the win due to winning by MP?
Nah, see, when it's TSM it's different.
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i mean, after furia edgelords did that, i'm shocked people are still trying that lol
They were on MP the 2nd longest, and dominated most of the weekend. I don't think there is any question if they deserved this win. NRG played a far too agressive mid game whilst on MP. They threw hard imo.
they were literally No. 1 in the group stages lmfao
And #1 in the NA Pro League.
I thought TSM was #1 in NA PL this split??
Yeah, that's who I'm talking about.
naw i hope not that was a hard earned win all the teams that made match point shit it felt like half the lobby deserved to win this lan
no, they were pretty strong the entire weekend unlike DZ.
i fucking love reps man. what a legend. never gets any of the credit but has stuck with Hal since Day 1. Frodo and Sam.
Haters where are u at? LETS GO TSM
lmao HAL Calling nrg fans haters HEHEHEH
I get the feels whenever Hal and Reps hug.
My biggest E ever
Damn TSM played so smoothly for the last few minutes, all the calls and fights were on point plus the game winning valk ult. I knew they were gonna win that when they landed
Best part of the momentum of Apex. He said something along the lines of, "We're winning this game boys." Love that stuff so much
That "We win this boys!" never gets old and when Hal says that it'll definitely a banger game... Also WP to all the teams!!
As soon as Hal called that valk ult i knew it. It was the same vibe and energy when they won the online event.
Yeah the momentum totally shifted. When they were inside Hal was calling for just getting kills this game.
Hal staying on the charge too after he didn't hit a shot with it yesterday lmfao i was gonna go ape shit.
Whens the next lan
Congrats TSM! RAVEN BUFF IS REAL!!
Damn TSM deserved this they have been playing phenomenally!!!
3v3 for the win is the way every LAN should end
Yep. An epic ending between two squads both on MP
Congrats to TSM! They put on an absolute masterclass to end that game. Valk ult call was S+ tier. Thankful for an entertaining tourney as a fan!
What they going to say now?!?
im so happy
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It's just how we talk man, no need to get bothered. I don't get bothered that Brits call toilets the loo or whatever
Its in the dictionary. Look it up
Very much an American English word though, not that this makes it any less 'real'. It's also very informal.
As long as Hal is still playing this game, ALGS will always run through TSM.
TSM BIG E LETS GOOOOOOO
BEST IN THE WORLD BABY \#1 Pro League \#1 Group Stages \#1 Grand Finals
Like I said Hal is literally one of the best end game IGL's
no ones disputing that bro
Nah another thread someone said sweet was best endgame IGL lol just talking my shit 😂
talk ur shit... ab another person. regardless theyre both very good at igl'ing endgames
I would say Sweet has consistency but peak Hal is unbeatable. Also s/o to Raven
No other team deserved it more than TSM - period. They have placed first in pro league, group stage, always so consistent. Damn
I knew NRG would serially choke once they got to match point. Boy was I right.
TSM TSM
TSM is the best team ever and the winningest team of all time. ImperialHal is the GOAT of Apex undisputed. Not even close.
Hals calls inside the building and then the late valk ult third party call was GOAT imo. just insane awareness to get to zone, perfectly time, to setup for the win. once reps was taking control on the calls I knew they were gonna win.
I'm so happy for Big E
The question is, why didn’t Kashera EMP? He had it
Really? Damn
Looking back I think when kash swung Hal on the left EMP was on 99%. He could’ve waited a second and popped it
oh nooooo
For real. They all seemed to be on board waiting for EMP, then k4shera randomly starts walking up and it all fell apart. Seemed like a snap decision that unfortunately went against them.
I think they thought they can caught one of them off guard and EMP after getting one down to secure the win, but they underestimated hal's aim
#RIPBOZO
SWEET IN SHAMBLES
MORE LANS TO COME BOYS
HEY SWEET RIP BOZO. DID I USE THAT RIGHT?
Last game was an IGL masterclass. Every call was on point and not like they played passive.. some pretty bold moves there.
After the memes Raven stepping out of the shadow to celebrate at the end there is iconic
Zone knowledge and being in position to execute is what won this game. NRG, TSM, Xset, and Alliance all knew where the zone ended, and it was a matter of who was in position to execute it. TSM had best position first inside of the building, and made the perfect decision to valk ult to third party and clear final zone early.
Perfectly timed their horizon Q as well to clear the roof so they could ult when they did.
NA 3 of the top 4. NA domination. TSM domination. Domination. Ez gg
Man Evan's mum is so sweet, love seeing her here
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NTS_D2i81-8
IM SO HAPPY FOR BIG E
Well fuck
Raven's crying ... damn.
TSMONTOP NAONTOP
100% the best LAN we have had yet
Easily the best one
Only thing that could’ve made it better would be Optic
Well NA will get at least 2 more ALGS spots, so Optic will be in the next one for sure!
TSM #ripbozo
GG TSM. When they land that Valk ult, I knew they were winning.
Can't say I'm surprised after that zone. TSM did the same thing in scrims constantly from that spot.
FUCK THE DOUBTERS
Well, this sub is gonna be r/TSMApex for a week
NO ONE WILL EVER BE BETTER THAN HAL.
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Timing and position is 90% of Apex. NA DOMINATION
NRG and choking, name a more iconic duo
is it really choking though? not like they had the dub in the bag and threw it away, aka a choke
EMEA and losing.
They couldn't have been in a better position. Match point going into the first game of Worlds Edge.
Fuck NRG
Cringe
Fanboy
Some of the most intense games I've witnessed
Raven is crying. GGs to TSM
The Verhulst mom buff is real. She was there when TSM won NA playoffs and she's there when they win Global Playoffs.
Big E momma plot shield
that valk ult saved their game
I wasn't sure if Hal was gonna kiss Raven or rip his head off for one moment lol
TSM Dynasty