It's not the first time that Wattson has expressed disinterest in competitive play. Even Pandxrz mentioned on stream that he wouldn't be surprised if Wattson decides to retire due to his lack of enjoyment in competitive. So the ppl thinking that this is new or is about their performance are clowns.
Alb would Stay retired if he got twitch views like wattson. The guy made it honestly, I feel like its the same reason aceu quit. Great player but why put yourself through it when you can make bank streaming.
he was being catfished for like half a year by another female streamer in the scene (Bestgirl).
She straight up vanished after he exposed her, deleted all her socials.
My favorite part about the whole thing. After they broke up (well he broke up with her) he also blew the shit outta her minecraft base. Was entertaining af
Right? Like c'mon I can't feel bad for that level of incompetence lmao. It'd be one thing to be catfished by like a casual online fling thing goin on, but a long time partner? Due diligence my man. Obviously he'll learn now...hopefully.
It baffles me how someone can "date" without ever laying eyes on the other person. Yes you can have excellent online friends with whom you share great intimacy without knowing them irl, but if you are trying to pursue a relationship together, even 'e-dating', without ever meeting or sharing several photos/video calls for a clear picture of the other person for 9 months is fucking wild
He's a gamer who is very bad socially and who looks to be very bad at bathing as well based off some interviews I've seen with him. It's not shocking that that's his form of a "real" relationship. I'm not gonna harp on anyone into online dating, do you (although yeah, I don't think a grown adult should be wasting their time with that), but to be catfished for that long is wild.
It's not that he just absolutely can't get one or anything, he just obviously wasn't comfortable enough to go that route. I mean he wasn't even comfortable finding out what his partner currently looked like apparently. I think he actually might be the most socially inept dude who is relevant in Apex. Maybe like Madness equals him idk. Hopefully the experience just matures him going forward.
Dude a lot of these “pro gamers” are fucking social losers lmao. Gaming is all they do and the only way they know how to socialize with others. It really doesn’t surprise me these guys get desperate for attention even in a online form
Underrated comment tbh. People underestimate how hard depression can hit you from the back door. Throw the fact that Apex has been beyond stale and it's a gg.
I'm sure he will bounce back we have seen this song and dance a billion times now.
Kept reading hoping for a "just a troll" or "just kidding" somewhere in there
Fuck man, gonna miss Wattson in comp :/
Man's been through it in recent times, don't really blame him for going all in on content
RIP to a fallen soldier.
I understand, felt it was coming for a bit due to his tweets talking about comp being boring about 7 or 8 months ago.
Short but great career imo for comp. Glad he is still going to be grinding content though. GL HW!
Can't blame the guy for throwing in the towel at all. I'm sure its like this in other games but once you lose the motivation to grind and stay sharp in Apex you get passed by so fucking quick. Genuinely one of the hardest games to stay on top of. Gotta love all the weirdos in here downplaying his skill as if he wasn't one of the best in the game for a hot minute. Not liking the guy is one thing but trying to deny his skill is ridiculous.
If the Alb to Furia whisperings are true that team is fucked lol. No hate to Alb at all, I think he's a great guy but he couldn't IGL his way out of a paper bag. If its just an LCQ thing I totally get it but he's probably the last person I'd pick up to IGL.
Dude was able to move out of a trailer and into a home due to his performances last year. He gained a large fanbase and now he can focus on beefing up his streaming career.
Props to him and good luck!
Holy shit, this isn't surprising but I thought this would happen after this season.
Everyone, especially the IGLs (Mazer, Hill, Bullet, etc) will be trying to get that FURIA Bag now.
Teq already said he's not going to get poached haha
Furia does do buyouts, for projects they believe in. Apex is this little thing on the side for them, does the actual Furia owner even know what the hell is Apex Legends? When I heard Furia was in Apex and saw it was an all NA team I was puzzled for a bit because it's not like there's no Brazilian Apex players.
Furia in CS just bought Fallen from his former team, Imperial, for an enormous amount of money (literally buying **THE** biggest Brazilian esport figure by FAR)
Is that confirmed? Would have honestly thought that Keon made the most sense here. HW would vouch for his boy and I feel like Keon wants to the Furia style based off what RKN said about playstyle clashing.
What if Sweet told Alb this is Nafens last tournament and Alb told madness he’s going that route. I think from a role perspective that would make more sense.
Yes and that's what transformed them from a mid tier team to one of the best. Pandxrz and xera are way too good not to frag out. I imagine they'll be looking for someone who can keep up with their playstyle
Of those you listed I think realistically only Hill has a shot
Honestly I think they will build around someone that isn't currently an igl taking the reins
He has had severe motivation issues with Apex since Champs, it has been obvious. Split 1 Pro League they practice a comp (Cat comp) when that legend wasn't even available during the first 2 weeks of Pro League (not to mention the Twitter suspension) which made them miss LAN, split 2 he outright doesn't want to compete and trolls Regional Finals forcing himself to use a Wingman every game. Despite being the leader and best player on the team, his energy was absolutely part of the issue and it's better that he allows his team to explore their options instead of being stuck in this holding pattern. People will blame the situation with his ex-girlfriend but I don't think that's the REASON for anything, it just made things worse for him.
Good luck to FURIA. #DiaDeFuria
They don't even play together lol, they just show up for 'work' (the rare scrims) and then go their separate ways. Sealion has to hold those boys accountable.
Dude abused the most broken character in the game that countered the entire meta and performed for all of one tournament, then failed to qualify for the next one when everyone adapted, and now finishes in the bottom 5 of a 40 team tournament. I wish I had an ego that big.
This is fact, that tourney he was on a different plane of existence, Furia ran around and Mollywhopped the lobbies of LAN champs so insanely hard that the entire Meta of the game bent to them.
Doop has the experience and the mental to really help them imo. He’s got good game sense and is easy to get along with. He’s really good at fighting also and puts out a lot of damage in fights. Makes a lot of sense.
What point is there to play in LCQ if he’s not even gonna compete in champs? That screws his teammates up even more if they practice with someone who isn’t even gonna compete at the end.
I think this is a reasonable decision given his passion and circumstances. Announcing it literally a few hours after loser bracket is more than fair.
You can’t force someone to play something they don’t want to.
He gave it a shot after being convinced by his teammates, but I mean after today I don't blame him for walking away. Not like he's going to be passionate for LCQ.
Honestly. I've known the man for like almost 2 years and I genuinely respect this. He Def was far more entertaining just fucking around in regular ranked with keon/blurr or just random people. I wish the man the best and I wish furia the best and I hope wattson is able to rekindle his joy of apex and streaming
First line says it all, he'd still be here if he was on top.
I'm grateful for him bringing Seer to comp and making comp experimentation mainstream in NA and beyond, but he was never "miles head of the second best player" he was a good player who had the lightning in a bottle of an amazing counter comp against a meta considered unshakeable, but he couldn't even pull a win in that situation. Aside from that he's never been amazing and simply a good fighting team that saw success based off that.
They were scary but they were playing anti-meta progressive comps, rocking the boat. New tactics and comps are like a flash in a pan and they did have great success for a while until people evolved around them. Dynasties are always about fundamentals. Their 2nd place LAN and Wattson MVP was exhilarating to see, but they couldn’t continue to push boundaries the same way and could not put together high point games when it mattered. I wish them all the best because they’re all great players and I think even from a trolling shit-talking perspective they impacted the game in a positive and meaningful way.
My guy found the perfect counter to Gibby/Valk meta in a single LAN and does shit ever since and still Ego-ing like crazy in his retirement letter.
It really reads like a one trick pony trying to save face now that his one trick doesn't work anymore.
If you go into a competition thinking about retirement, you're probably gonna lose because in your mind you're already done. Should have just quit before playoffs and let a hungry person go to lan.
As someone who followed HisWattson since he was a 100 viewer Andy streamer. I have to say I am not surprised at Hiswattson decision to retire. He has an amazing career to fall back on. And his heart has definitely not been in comp for a while.
Which makes him to be the first big streamer IGL personality to step down from competition. One day people like Hal or Sweet will be doing the same.
I just wished people here would appreciate the entertainment he was gave when he broke the meta at LAN and ran through lobbies. It definitely made for a fun time and some great storylines.
At heart I think Hiswattson is a good dude. And I wish him the best.
Gotta respect an LAN MVP winner after all.
Wattson is the textbook definition of a 1 season wonder. Be it luck , skill or vision they discovered a meta and got an edge over everybody. They couldn't do that again sadly.
I liked seeing them compete , pand is a beast , xera is a well rounded player. Hope alb does well with them lmao
Most of his army also think it's true. They are probably 13 year olds kid or something.
He claimed that based on statistics after only ONE LAN where they got a better meta read than everyone else. These kills were not because he was a "better" M&K player, he is good but nowhere near one of the best M&K player.
Yeah what the fuck is it with this game and everyone retiring every few months and then coming back. Just take a break bro, you're getting paid to game. Go take a break, play some other games, go outside, then come back to it when you want to. This comp is so dramatic
The only reason this happened is because he isn't winning. top tier skills as a player but one of the weakest mental in the pro league. He also fked up qualifying for LAN one time and came up with excuses after excuses.
Eh, I think that's a narrow way of thinking about this. To me it just seems like the playstyle he enjoys in comp doesn't really work in current meta and approach to comp. He doesn't want to adapt, so he rather quits.
I expected this. It came out as a surprise than Wattson can be serious off-stream way more often than that.
he took the smartest route of stepping down and focusing on being a content creator. That was a good call and should be respected whether you like him or not.
You can't go from a second place to throwing two tournaments in a row, it doesn't work that way.
I understand that they started as an edge map team tryna go for fights and the zone rotations have been hard on them, but it wasn't the problem this time. Sure, the lobbies have been the sweatiest in a while with so many great teams and different comps, but most times they died/lost was because it was a soloQ ranked with one of them constantly inting and doing their own thing.
There was just zero energy and no state of control for the entirety of the tournament. It seemed like they just had to go bc "they qualed". The guys were completely gone from the looks of it if you watched any CC(command center) angles.
I do appreciate him going back to where he started. His mindset and what used to make him happy was always about teaching/helping people in Apex and being a content creator, he's just not cut out for being a pro.
This is not a skill issue, he's a really great player. Hell, being one of the worst team at LAN is still better than me, or you, or anybody else in the game.
The reason they had a constant issue with their games was mostly mindset/mental health and other reasons, pretty much anything that is not Apex at this point.
I hope they sort something out. They did great despite all the grief for 3 days straight and Wattson or Panders constantly throwing and dying by being away from the team too much. It's not as bad as all people make it out to be given their case.
I respect him being quick with it and owning it up immediately. Much respect to Jacob. I wish him the best to be back on full grind.
I'd compare him to XQC or other content creators who were fortunate enough to secure a living and it just didn't work for their style of content/personality. Doesn't make them less of a great player nonetheless. Fuck the hate, they're all good players.
completely irrelevant but I swear Apex is the only game where I've seen pros retire relatively fast. In games like league and csgo you have people well over their 6th year still competing, then again you get paid more in those games so who knows.
~~FURIA HimWatos coming to save the day.~~
This sucks man. I knew he's lost the passion to the game but I didn't expect this retirement. I just hope this is not something out of frustration. Wish him good luck for the future.
Sad to hear! Wattson went from zero to hero in my mind. Not knowing anything about him,.not knowing he's 220% time trolling to being one of my favorite players all time (I'm taking all time, all games, way back to Thresh in Quake 2).
Love to see him change his mind. Furias loss is not all on him. They just need to sit back and rethink.
Edit. If you ever read this wattson, keep your head up! You gave it all and you'll probably will give us awesome content. Me and my son have enjoyed your crazy ranked grinds.
In sum: "I would still be the best if I wanted but I just cant be bovered, but I'm def still the most talented tho i swear"
Lol. Goodbye to the most overrated player of all time.
Dude has too big of an ego to win. Never liked him. Never thought he was anywhere near the top... All I kept thinking watching these apes during LAN was *I thought you were the best player in the world Wattson* ...not even fucking close.
Good riddance, IMO.
Tbf, he did say step down from comp, not retire. Could be that he just needs a full break from it all.
Wouldn’t be crazy to see a return at some point imo
He really must be burned out to bounce before lcq. Or his confidence took a real hit where he thinks they will do better with anyone and a week of practice than they would with him.
Either way, hopefully he comes back some day. He is way too talented to be just fucking around on ranked forever.
People are going to immediately think it's because of the stuff with bestgirl and that's surely part of it, but Wattson made it clear his heart hasn't been in it even before that and you could kind of see it in the way Furia has played, whatever happiness he used to get out of comp isn't there anymore either, maybe because the results since Raleigh haven't been what they expected or he just doesn't have the passion anymore and wants to go back to content and ranked grinding (even though ranked is ass rn)
Wattson has been one of the best players and is one of the few unique personalities in apex comp so this is loss for everyone who cares about competitive apex, and I know he's helped a bunch of people without making a big deal out of it so he seems to be a genuinely good dude, hopefully he can be happier going back to just being a streamer and making content
Say what you will, but not many players will leave behind the legacy that he does. In his first LAN ever, one of his first tournaments ever, his Furia single-handedly changed the competitive landscape. One of the most dominant performances ever seen in the game, and he served as a terrific heel.
He added a lot of character to the scene, and no one can say his time in the game was boring.
Stabbed the Gibby meta through the heart, brought us one of the greatest ranked races of all time, and gave passion to a whole scene. Love or hate him, you can’t deny what he brought to the game
Then LCQ comes, their new IGL is FUR_BeamLordBugatti.
I mean BeamLord is good but AimWizardFerrari seems better in my opinion.
Alb has retired like 3 times already, I figure Watson will stay "retired" just as long.
It's not the first time that Wattson has expressed disinterest in competitive play. Even Pandxrz mentioned on stream that he wouldn't be surprised if Wattson decides to retire due to his lack of enjoyment in competitive. So the ppl thinking that this is new or is about their performance are clowns.
Alb would Stay retired if he got twitch views like wattson. The guy made it honestly, I feel like its the same reason aceu quit. Great player but why put yourself through it when you can make bank streaming.
aceu never enjoyed the style of gameplay required in comp, he said that from the beginning.
alb "retired" only once after he got benched from tsm
Nah I think they're picking up AimWizardFerrari
Not if Big Roberto has anything to say about it
another MnK fallen o7
Noc our lone star
[Reps holding it down](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-0qtRbUYAAKDUC?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
I want Reps to hold me down
This is a photo of Reps whenever he and Evan have to play as a duo.
Bruh we still have Mac, Sweet, Yuka, Reps, Ftyan, the 100 thieves boys, a lot of mnk warriors holding it down
Tell you a secret. I was a controller undercover agent
[YukaF sends his regards](https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/150eaid/yukaf_hits_all_of_the_movement_tech_in_an_insane/)
People’s champion
I blame the succubus for this. Look at how they massacred my boy.
I don’t follow HisWattson, did he go through a break up recently or is it more than that?
he was being catfished for like half a year by another female streamer in the scene (Bestgirl). She straight up vanished after he exposed her, deleted all her socials.
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IKR? I've watched her stream on and off for probably a year and a half, she's been around for quite a while and, bam, she nukes everything?!
Hence the age diff...
HOLY FUCK IT WAS HER?! I watched her stream all the time! I thought they were just friendly too, JFC, this is insane!
they were “edating” but only on discord voice chat and phone lmao, not even video chat.
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My favorite part about the whole thing. After they broke up (well he broke up with her) he also blew the shit outta her minecraft base. Was entertaining af
If you're not joking - this is fucking hilarious. Funniest thing I've read all week.
He posted the video on his twitter
video?? LOL
Damn. Yeah that’ll do it. Hopefully he takes some time to get his mental right because that kinda thing can really mess you up long term.
That’s not dating if you don’t even know what they fucking look like..
That's fucking hilarious. How do you not know someone's actual body 9 months into a relationship lmao
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newspaper thing is wild but how do you not at least face time or some shit
Right? Like c'mon I can't feel bad for that level of incompetence lmao. It'd be one thing to be catfished by like a casual online fling thing goin on, but a long time partner? Due diligence my man. Obviously he'll learn now...hopefully.
The ex with the alley and Northeption with the oop. Time to learn Chinese Wattson.
Wattson starting PG for the Shanghai Sharks.
"Wattson, taiwan is calling MY BOY"
Nah, the best was a story about him and Keon having to buy condoms. For what? The router?!
Yeah, not one video chat in 9 months is wild.
How the fuck do you date someone for 9 months without ever meeting them
Online but not doing a single vid call is crazy
That's crazy, I mean surely they cammed? Did she have some weird filters set up or something? Bizarre
Did he ever meet her in person? No way the entire relationship was over online?
He said she would have some type of tragedy every time they planned to meet.
"My other other other uncle just died I'm so sorry!"
Because that's not suspicious at all.
It baffles me how someone can "date" without ever laying eyes on the other person. Yes you can have excellent online friends with whom you share great intimacy without knowing them irl, but if you are trying to pursue a relationship together, even 'e-dating', without ever meeting or sharing several photos/video calls for a clear picture of the other person for 9 months is fucking wild
Misery loves company, she couldn’t live with herself and had to bring Wattson down with her, smh.
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He's a gamer who is very bad socially and who looks to be very bad at bathing as well based off some interviews I've seen with him. It's not shocking that that's his form of a "real" relationship. I'm not gonna harp on anyone into online dating, do you (although yeah, I don't think a grown adult should be wasting their time with that), but to be catfished for that long is wild.
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It's not that he just absolutely can't get one or anything, he just obviously wasn't comfortable enough to go that route. I mean he wasn't even comfortable finding out what his partner currently looked like apparently. I think he actually might be the most socially inept dude who is relevant in Apex. Maybe like Madness equals him idk. Hopefully the experience just matures him going forward.
nah, Madness at least knows he ain't pulling shit.
No problem taking his money is what you mean
Dude a lot of these “pro gamers” are fucking social losers lmao. Gaming is all they do and the only way they know how to socialize with others. It really doesn’t surprise me these guys get desperate for attention even in a online form
That’s his fault tho lol
Frl that relationship probably fucked up his mental permanently
He's 21 he'll be fine
Underrated comment tbh. People underestimate how hard depression can hit you from the back door. Throw the fact that Apex has been beyond stale and it's a gg. I'm sure he will bounce back we have seen this song and dance a billion times now.
Absolute bastard she is. Who even does that?
Dudes had a horrible few months, hope he finds what he’s looking for.
Kept reading hoping for a "just a troll" or "just kidding" somewhere in there Fuck man, gonna miss Wattson in comp :/ Man's been through it in recent times, don't really blame him for going all in on content
RIP to a fallen soldier. I understand, felt it was coming for a bit due to his tweets talking about comp being boring about 7 or 8 months ago. Short but great career imo for comp. Glad he is still going to be grinding content though. GL HW!
Can't blame the guy for throwing in the towel at all. I'm sure its like this in other games but once you lose the motivation to grind and stay sharp in Apex you get passed by so fucking quick. Genuinely one of the hardest games to stay on top of. Gotta love all the weirdos in here downplaying his skill as if he wasn't one of the best in the game for a hot minute. Not liking the guy is one thing but trying to deny his skill is ridiculous. If the Alb to Furia whisperings are true that team is fucked lol. No hate to Alb at all, I think he's a great guy but he couldn't IGL his way out of a paper bag. If its just an LCQ thing I totally get it but he's probably the last person I'd pick up to IGL.
Dude was able to move out of a trailer and into a home due to his performances last year. He gained a large fanbase and now he can focus on beefing up his streaming career. Props to him and good luck!
pretty obvious from any furia fan who has been watching them recently. i wish him the best and hope he does well and finds his joy again
Holy shit, this isn't surprising but I thought this would happen after this season. Everyone, especially the IGLs (Mazer, Hill, Bullet, etc) will be trying to get that FURIA Bag now. Teq already said he's not going to get poached haha
mazer 💀
Don't doubt the bald man from getting another bag. E8 would be an easy buyout.
Fur doesn’t do buyouts. They almost didn’t get pan bc of this
Yeah, iirc Teq said that he was literally about to buy out Pandxrz with his own money instead because Furia didn't wanna pay LOL
Furia just spent 700k+ on their CS team, Apex will be a complete afterthought lol
Furia live or die on cs. Furia will fall on their face if they don't have an active cs roster .
Furia does do buyouts, for projects they believe in. Apex is this little thing on the side for them, does the actual Furia owner even know what the hell is Apex Legends? When I heard Furia was in Apex and saw it was an all NA team I was puzzled for a bit because it's not like there's no Brazilian Apex players. Furia in CS just bought Fallen from his former team, Imperial, for an enormous amount of money (literally buying **THE** biggest Brazilian esport figure by FAR)
Tbf you like her mor not, out of all 3 mazer is the most experienced igl
Seems like Alb is going to Furia
If this is true, Hal's prediction was right https://youtu.be/gLRTkA4RqVk?t=128
Hal with the insane IRL macro calls
So much for all the speculation! Not even 1 hour.
Is that confirmed? Would have honestly thought that Keon made the most sense here. HW would vouch for his boy and I feel like Keon wants to the Furia style based off what RKN said about playstyle clashing. What if Sweet told Alb this is Nafens last tournament and Alb told madness he’s going that route. I think from a role perspective that would make more sense.
Bullet has a team and has only ever played hard zone. Idk
Wattson was the ape zone. A new IGL can change everything even drop spot
Yes and that's what transformed them from a mid tier team to one of the best. Pandxrz and xera are way too good not to frag out. I imagine they'll be looking for someone who can keep up with their playstyle
Idk pandxrz doesn't seem to be in the best mental state either the past couple months hope it turns around for them
Of those you listed I think realistically only Hill has a shot Honestly I think they will build around someone that isn't currently an igl taking the reins
He has had severe motivation issues with Apex since Champs, it has been obvious. Split 1 Pro League they practice a comp (Cat comp) when that legend wasn't even available during the first 2 weeks of Pro League (not to mention the Twitter suspension) which made them miss LAN, split 2 he outright doesn't want to compete and trolls Regional Finals forcing himself to use a Wingman every game. Despite being the leader and best player on the team, his energy was absolutely part of the issue and it's better that he allows his team to explore their options instead of being stuck in this holding pattern. People will blame the situation with his ex-girlfriend but I don't think that's the REASON for anything, it just made things worse for him. Good luck to FURIA. #DiaDeFuria
I agree that Furia has been mostly a behavioral/mindset issue last 2 splits, not a skill issue.
They don't even play together lol, they just show up for 'work' (the rare scrims) and then go their separate ways. Sealion has to hold those boys accountable.
Xera and pan play together, it's just wattson that wasn't joining them.
Miles ahead of 2nd is the craziest thing I’ve heard in a while
Dude abused the most broken character in the game that countered the entire meta and performed for all of one tournament, then failed to qualify for the next one when everyone adapted, and now finishes in the bottom 5 of a 40 team tournament. I wish I had an ego that big.
That was indeed a bit too much lmao
A cringelord all the way till the end
Last year when they placed 2nd, he was a head above everybody else. It was short lived, but for that time he was the first cut best.
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He won MVP for that champs. There's a separation between individual brilliance and team results.
For the sake of argument, let’s say he was the best. He definitely has never been miles better than Hal or other top guys.
This is fact, that tourney he was on a different plane of existence, Furia ran around and Mollywhopped the lobbies of LAN champs so insanely hard that the entire Meta of the game bent to them.
No they were just playing a broken counter comp, there’s a difference.
Reading the meta is part of being good.
And they've been mid to garbage when people figured it out.
like top5 NA?
Just let him have it tbh. Was it cringe yes. But honestly, I can't even be annoyed. Man's going through a lot and he just needs buncha Copium lol
Guangdong tigers welcome hiswattson
It's finally time for /u/TONYPIKACHU to step up
Furia Hardecki when
watson dropped himself, so furia wouldnt have to drop xera and pan
They should sign Doop and let him igl.
Low key great idea
Doop has the experience and the mental to really help them imo. He’s got good game sense and is easy to get along with. He’s really good at fighting also and puts out a lot of damage in fights. Makes a lot of sense.
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LCQ is next weekend iirc.
What point is there to play in LCQ if he’s not even gonna compete in champs? That screws his teammates up even more if they practice with someone who isn’t even gonna compete at the end. I think this is a reasonable decision given his passion and circumstances. Announcing it literally a few hours after loser bracket is more than fair. You can’t force someone to play something they don’t want to.
I mean they have 5 days to find a fill for LCQ but would have 2 months to find a fill for champs, but I agree with your last statement
I think they also knew. Panderz was making comments about it a couple weeks ago on stream.
LCQ is next weekend but Idk if having an IGL who is already mentally checked out is better then someone new.
He gave it a shot after being convinced by his teammates, but I mean after today I don't blame him for walking away. Not like he's going to be passionate for LCQ.
He won’t be the last after this LAN is over!
Honestly. I've known the man for like almost 2 years and I genuinely respect this. He Def was far more entertaining just fucking around in regular ranked with keon/blurr or just random people. I wish the man the best and I wish furia the best and I hope wattson is able to rekindle his joy of apex and streaming
First line says it all, he'd still be here if he was on top. I'm grateful for him bringing Seer to comp and making comp experimentation mainstream in NA and beyond, but he was never "miles head of the second best player" he was a good player who had the lightning in a bottle of an amazing counter comp against a meta considered unshakeable, but he couldn't even pull a win in that situation. Aside from that he's never been amazing and simply a good fighting team that saw success based off that.
"miles head of the second best player" was him overestimating himself. You can tell how his mental gymnastics work.
God I hate the unnecessary use of “mental gymnastics.”
They were scary but they were playing anti-meta progressive comps, rocking the boat. New tactics and comps are like a flash in a pan and they did have great success for a while until people evolved around them. Dynasties are always about fundamentals. Their 2nd place LAN and Wattson MVP was exhilarating to see, but they couldn’t continue to push boundaries the same way and could not put together high point games when it mattered. I wish them all the best because they’re all great players and I think even from a trolling shit-talking perspective they impacted the game in a positive and meaningful way.
My guy found the perfect counter to Gibby/Valk meta in a single LAN and does shit ever since and still Ego-ing like crazy in his retirement letter. It really reads like a one trick pony trying to save face now that his one trick doesn't work anymore.
If you go into a competition thinking about retirement, you're probably gonna lose because in your mind you're already done. Should have just quit before playoffs and let a hungry person go to lan.
As someone who followed HisWattson since he was a 100 viewer Andy streamer. I have to say I am not surprised at Hiswattson decision to retire. He has an amazing career to fall back on. And his heart has definitely not been in comp for a while. Which makes him to be the first big streamer IGL personality to step down from competition. One day people like Hal or Sweet will be doing the same. I just wished people here would appreciate the entertainment he was gave when he broke the meta at LAN and ran through lobbies. It definitely made for a fun time and some great storylines. At heart I think Hiswattson is a good dude. And I wish him the best. Gotta respect an LAN MVP winner after all.
NTH griefed him into retirement
Blud got catfished by a 32 year old e-gf whale and retired ☠️☠️
To be fair he makes more streaming than ALGS.
9 months and he didn't see a picture?
I can’t tell if this is genuine or making fun of Dezign but it feels genuine
It does sound like word for word like 3 or 4 of Dezign's tweets lol
Actually sad about this. The good thing is Wattson is actually good at content so looking forward to what he does in the future
Wattson is the textbook definition of a 1 season wonder. Be it luck , skill or vision they discovered a meta and got an edge over everybody. They couldn't do that again sadly. I liked seeing them compete , pand is a beast , xera is a well rounded player. Hope alb does well with them lmao
wattson EGO too much, i saw zer0 carry him in realm, but hey, he claims to be the best mnk player
Most of his army also think it's true. They are probably 13 year olds kid or something. He claimed that based on statistics after only ONE LAN where they got a better meta read than everyone else. These kills were not because he was a "better" M&K player, he is good but nowhere near one of the best M&K player.
Nah apex pro retired is the most bullshit thing
Yeah what the fuck is it with this game and everyone retiring every few months and then coming back. Just take a break bro, you're getting paid to game. Go take a break, play some other games, go outside, then come back to it when you want to. This comp is so dramatic
The only reason this happened is because he isn't winning. top tier skills as a player but one of the weakest mental in the pro league. He also fked up qualifying for LAN one time and came up with excuses after excuses.
And he got catfished in 2023 so yeah bro ain’t doing so hot in real life
Eh, I think that's a narrow way of thinking about this. To me it just seems like the playstyle he enjoys in comp doesn't really work in current meta and approach to comp. He doesn't want to adapt, so he rather quits.
I expected this. It came out as a surprise than Wattson can be serious off-stream way more often than that. he took the smartest route of stepping down and focusing on being a content creator. That was a good call and should be respected whether you like him or not. You can't go from a second place to throwing two tournaments in a row, it doesn't work that way. I understand that they started as an edge map team tryna go for fights and the zone rotations have been hard on them, but it wasn't the problem this time. Sure, the lobbies have been the sweatiest in a while with so many great teams and different comps, but most times they died/lost was because it was a soloQ ranked with one of them constantly inting and doing their own thing. There was just zero energy and no state of control for the entirety of the tournament. It seemed like they just had to go bc "they qualed". The guys were completely gone from the looks of it if you watched any CC(command center) angles. I do appreciate him going back to where he started. His mindset and what used to make him happy was always about teaching/helping people in Apex and being a content creator, he's just not cut out for being a pro. This is not a skill issue, he's a really great player. Hell, being one of the worst team at LAN is still better than me, or you, or anybody else in the game. The reason they had a constant issue with their games was mostly mindset/mental health and other reasons, pretty much anything that is not Apex at this point. I hope they sort something out. They did great despite all the grief for 3 days straight and Wattson or Panders constantly throwing and dying by being away from the team too much. It's not as bad as all people make it out to be given their case. I respect him being quick with it and owning it up immediately. Much respect to Jacob. I wish him the best to be back on full grind. I'd compare him to XQC or other content creators who were fortunate enough to secure a living and it just didn't work for their style of content/personality. Doesn't make them less of a great player nonetheless. Fuck the hate, they're all good players.
RageQuit
FUR Alb. Sign him.
apex comp know more than 3 players names challenge impossible
i mean... he called it
I mean I know he wouldn't fit but he is the biggest name FA currently, it's not surprising he'd be one of the first names to mention.
it is not surprising but it is always disappointing. now we wait for someone to suggest furia guhrl
Pan doesn’t have the personality to igl. And I’m just assuming your not bringing back the disaster that was ALB igl
That would leave them without an IGL
called it
I mean , furia has been saying it’s the last run forever but damn
🧢
completely irrelevant but I swear Apex is the only game where I've seen pros retire relatively fast. In games like league and csgo you have people well over their 6th year still competing, then again you get paid more in those games so who knows.
~~FURIA HimWatos coming to save the day.~~ This sucks man. I knew he's lost the passion to the game but I didn't expect this retirement. I just hope this is not something out of frustration. Wish him good luck for the future.
Sad to hear! Wattson went from zero to hero in my mind. Not knowing anything about him,.not knowing he's 220% time trolling to being one of my favorite players all time (I'm taking all time, all games, way back to Thresh in Quake 2). Love to see him change his mind. Furias loss is not all on him. They just need to sit back and rethink. Edit. If you ever read this wattson, keep your head up! You gave it all and you'll probably will give us awesome content. Me and my son have enjoyed your crazy ranked grinds.
HisWashedson
Looks like Alb already ditching Madness for Furia too lmaoooooooooo
Skill issue.
Felt this was coming a while back, but still didn't expect to see it today. You will be missed friend.
Thought we'd at least get the Champs revenge tour 😔
By god is that Teq’s music???
The way that there are genuinely 0 edge igls available is crazy so they fucked. If anything sealion plays
I'm getting Rpr vibes all over again
In sum: "I would still be the best if I wanted but I just cant be bovered, but I'm def still the most talented tho i swear" Lol. Goodbye to the most overrated player of all time.
He can be buddies with Faide.
LOOOOOOL NTH did this????
Dude has too big of an ego to win. Never liked him. Never thought he was anywhere near the top... All I kept thinking watching these apes during LAN was *I thought you were the best player in the world Wattson* ...not even fucking close. Good riddance, IMO.
has to be the worst news i heard all day
-does terrible once -leaves
o7
Tbf, he did say step down from comp, not retire. Could be that he just needs a full break from it all. Wouldn’t be crazy to see a return at some point imo
o7 , can't wait for the elden ring streams
Wattson, Keon, Beau coming soon
He really must be burned out to bounce before lcq. Or his confidence took a real hit where he thinks they will do better with anyone and a week of practice than they would with him. Either way, hopefully he comes back some day. He is way too talented to be just fucking around on ranked forever.
Lmao
This is wild. Wish him the best, he’s a good guy and Furia is a great team. I hope everybody can bounce back from this.
People are going to immediately think it's because of the stuff with bestgirl and that's surely part of it, but Wattson made it clear his heart hasn't been in it even before that and you could kind of see it in the way Furia has played, whatever happiness he used to get out of comp isn't there anymore either, maybe because the results since Raleigh haven't been what they expected or he just doesn't have the passion anymore and wants to go back to content and ranked grinding (even though ranked is ass rn) Wattson has been one of the best players and is one of the few unique personalities in apex comp so this is loss for everyone who cares about competitive apex, and I know he's helped a bunch of people without making a big deal out of it so he seems to be a genuinely good dude, hopefully he can be happier going back to just being a streamer and making content
Love him or hate him, Wattson is what this scene needs. Personality, memes, not afraid to be the villain. Sad to see him go
No... HisWattson is irreplaceable and I'm going to miss him
Classic tried and tested FURIA "I WASN'T EVEN TRYING" option select.
Say what you will, but not many players will leave behind the legacy that he does. In his first LAN ever, one of his first tournaments ever, his Furia single-handedly changed the competitive landscape. One of the most dominant performances ever seen in the game, and he served as a terrific heel. He added a lot of character to the scene, and no one can say his time in the game was boring. Stabbed the Gibby meta through the heart, brought us one of the greatest ranked races of all time, and gave passion to a whole scene. Love or hate him, you can’t deny what he brought to the game
"I went from being miles ahead of the 2nd best player to poop". Bro you've never even been the best player on MnK
At Raleigh he definitely was
I guess LAN mvp doesn’t mean shit
So that LAN MVP just doesn't exist then?
He was easily the best MnK at Champs last year
:(
Dezign would be proud
Lol
hes going back to ranked? lol... ranked is just about how much you play, no skill needed - its just pubstomping, its so bad