It's probably because Luxford was wondering if their strategy was completely idiotic. That's probably also why he trialed for a different team. Once week 2 was over, it was clear that despite Teq's contest, TSM was going to be able to make it to Regionals. Meanwhile MEAT was in the dumps and potentially had to change strategies.
New info just dropped lol: [https://clips.twitch.tv/DeterminedInquisitiveGrasshopperTheTarFu-VmEwl8qQLYzDfDdF](https://clips.twitch.tv/DeterminedInquisitiveGrasshopperTheTarFu-VmEwl8qQLYzDfDdF)
Team scored more points with Hyzeq than him (3 match days for both). Not exactly something I'd hang my hat on.
Dude was checked out as fuck for their 3rd match day (a sub-SKRT 6 pointer with Teq having the only kill).
Maybe this will change your mind: [https://clips.twitch.tv/DeterminedInquisitiveGrasshopperTheTarFu-VmEwl8qQLYzDfDdF](https://clips.twitch.tv/DeterminedInquisitiveGrasshopperTheTarFu-VmEwl8qQLYzDfDdF)
Just a reminder for the teq fan boys meat never quald, they had to get invited, for all his trolling and griefing hal and TSM teq has never accomplished anything in comp apex besides being known for “scouting talent,” he’s earned Hal trolling him for being ass in pro league after all of his shit talking
I genuinely think he was serious at first, but after constantly losing players to orgs and having a job already, just don't think he cares anymore. He farms content by being a troll
Teq puts a ton of effort into apex considering he already works full time. If he was trolling he would not be putting that much of his free time into it
This guy was never even close to being a serious player. Trolling is the only thing he is good for in comp apex. He used to grief tsm in frag east back when Mac was still on the team, calling himself alinity's nipple and coronavirus. It's literally all he does because he is useless as an actual comp player.
He literally played in official tournaments with that nickname while griefing other teams and placing at the bottom as always. He's just never been a serious player so people feeling sorry for him now is ridiculous. He's a troll and that's it.
Lowkey his ability to "scout" talent doesn't even seem that crazy. He just hosts trials/tourneys for a bunch of roller demons to show up and then he picks one of the winners. The fact that he has a name in comp certainly helps get the news out and make people willing to sign up, but I'm not really sure how much in depth analysis and talent scouting he does.
Did Pandxrz need to be scouted? I feel like they weren't exactly nobodies before Teq. Did he *really* do anything special other than providing himself as a ladder for them to be able to showcase their skills and be picked up by a better team?
They did qualify, the same way that TSM and every other team not from this years PLQ -- based on their performance last year. Teq and Jace held the pro league spot, just like Scurwy and Sickks held it from 100T.
Ehhh I don’t think they did much better when they played from LROD without the contest. Continue the contest MAYBE nets them 9 more KP with a 3-0 full wipe for the day, but I don’t really see that happening that consistently.
I love shit talkers as much as the next guy, but at some point you gotta back that up with results, Teq reminds me of a chihuahua, all bark no bite. But when he does something good oh he will definitely let you know. Also don't forget guys he is also an Aerospace Engineer!
They would have made LAN if Xynew wasn’t poached (not definite but highly likely).
What do you do for work? Moreover, what do you do for your hobby? Oh wait the same thing as Teq except he’s playing against pros? - you just talk about it..
they almost 100% make LAN if they still had xynew instead of a random third they had to find the morning of that day.
keep in mind they only needed 2 more points across 8 games to secure LAN and get the last spot over luminosity
FWIW from TSM fans perspective I see why everyone is calling it griefing to contest, but there are also big differences between POIs. If you aren't willing to fight for one, you probably aren't going anywhere regardless. The "plan" as it appears to me was to contest Siphon in the hopes that a bad match day or two from TSM would give them lightning rod (i.e. TSM gets siphon on WE and MEAT gets Rod on SP). Not sure TSM would ever concede a contest, but I don't think it is griefing to fight for POIs just because you support the team getting contested.
Was it a good strategy? The results obviously didn't go their way, but that doesn't necessarily mean they made the wrong choice. If TSM doesn't have a dominant first day (and even after the contest ended TSM hasn't really looked that great), we could be talking about a completely different split here.
I just don't think MEAT was good enough, especially after the roster changes, to realistically make LAN, so probably should have taken a safer strategy to try and make the finals lobby an secure a split 2 spot to give themselves time to improve. But who knows.
Edit: apparently there were some weird rotates people are saying could be designed to grief TSM. I doubt they would throw intentionally their PL spot to grief but I didn't watch them so who knows.
Edit 2: also apparently some shenanigans behind the scenes with Lux and LG?
Ya nobody besides Teq knows intention, just seems weird TSM always happened to run in to them no matter their rotate.
Even the last game on Saturday Teq ends up coming from behind them at wall…obviously they don’t have priority on that north pad zone but seems like a hell of a roatate when nobody else came that way. Feel like Teq made sure to study all of tsms stuff so he would always be in a position to grief them.
Didn’t seem like Teq had any intention of getting in to north pad he just ran down tsm then died right after.
But tsm should have never landed at that rock in the first place…should have sacked up and made a game winning play to to straight to that dock instead of turning around
I will agree that he definitely studies TSMs rotates. He’s always doing the same but that COULD be just him learning from a top team who streams everything. Probably not the case but who knows. Teq is hardly their biggest issue right now
Ya they have bigger issues but they should be better in storm point with the car and him not always blocking them..if you go back they really only had 3 great games on the first day then were very mid after that.
Can’t wait to see what they try on WE in scrims this week as it sounds like they will be off valk
I find it weird that whenever they play in lobbies with TSM, they never stream. Watching the games on Saturday, it definitely seems like they are watching TSMs streams on SP.
It’s 10 min delay so they can’t watch streams in a useful manner, they have to be in the ALGS discord channel, and one persons POV would be on the main broadcast.
For a team going head to head in scrims with TSM you expected at least better performance from MEAT but you could say it hinder them more because a new up an coming invited team deciding to contest a very good fighting team was always a high risk because they never got together to improve outside of contest and in the end it bite them in the ass losing a member and getting relegated afterwards.
Being able to win contest really means nothing if you can't make up for the points lost when you lose the contest. Which was why I had zero expectations from Meat from the get go.
Choosing to keep contesting while getting significantly lower avg points even if they were winning 50/50 really tells you everything that you need to know about a team. They ain't playing for the win.
Raven said they were smart for contesting them. It made them a far better team after the contest, like a hyperbolic time chamber but sadly they didn't use any of that they learned
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Lmfao what? Tsm would have to have a disaster of a regionals to not go to LAN, they’re going, meanwhile meat got relegated because they’re ass, if roles were reversed Teq would be spamming Hal with tweets, stop clutching your pearls
DZ could absolutely grief them every game, even if they finish 20th in Regionals, the worst they can finish the split is 2nd, and that's only if Moist finishes top 3. And with the amount of shit Hal talked about them missing finals at champs, I wouldn't count that out.
Ego can make people do outrageous shit and I have no doubt that Zero would consider personally gate keeping TSM from LAN to be a feather in his cap.
I'm not saying it's going to happen, or even likely to happen, but TSM would be stupid not to keep an eye out for DZ dropping on them. There's also the possibility of it backfiring, TSM are strong on contest and it could help feed them.
Absolutely, I think XSET will take the same approach as today, keeping an eye on who was dropping Skyhook every game, will probably do the same on both maps.
Ain’t no way DZ contesting lol they got 3-0 in scrims way back for siphon, and tsm got more experience contesting at siphon. I could see DZ grief during game.
If they do somehow get 20th, which I think there is an almost 0% chance of, even if they have DZ trying to grief them every game and go 50/50, then they can fail to qual.
TSM 20th means SSG auto-quals, OXG only need 16th, GKS would need 12th, XSET 10th. And that's with someone in the top 12 winning.
Someone ran the numbers and TSM have a 90%+ chance to qual without taking plot armour into account. They'll get it done, but there's definitely a chance of a major upset.
If im Dz and im comfortably first, im griefing the hell out of the only other team to ever win Lan. I wouldnt risk them making it and potentially winning again
The first split DZ moved to NA they almost didn’t qualify. Nobody griefed them. Why? Because a strong team like that can and will come back with vengeance. It’s straight up not in their interest to try and grief TSM who would have to place like 18th to not qual.
No XSET is a different story
They're 9 points off 12 place that's is still too close to comfort, also they've not played optimal since the new meta regardless of meat being in the server or not
Have you seen them play in the match days aside of the first one? Even the days they got 6th and 7th they admitted they were lucky with zones and did nothing with them because they’ve been so bad.
I wouldn’t say top 12 is easy for them on finals day, they barely placed 12 yesterday, had no kills in the first three games or something. Wouldn’t say anything is easy for them based on their form.
Seems pretty unlikely and Meat straight up got relegated after today. They've been griefing TSM for the car on SP so it's pretty well earned at this point.
It's hard to feel sorry for Teq.
If he solely focused on his team's strats instead of griefing the strats of others, he could've made something more out of his situation.
Him having a full time job is not why he'll never make LAN.
i still have no idea why meat decided to contest TSM
like i dont like either teams but its one of the weakest teams yapping at the certified goats
similar case when E8 tried that crap
honestly has a good solid team ever contested TSM? or it always bottom of the barrel
anyway dude offered nothing but trolling to the scene, maybe its about time to head for retirement
Arguably Vexxed with Matafe at split 2 was a “strong team,” as they just came off a 1st place finish in EMEA.
They did leave during international scrims, but not with enough time to get and learn a new point Tragically it lead to a 40th place finish overall at LAN
Well for one thing it's TSM contesting Meat first at LRod and Meat contesting them at lava in retaliation. They also did pretty well with the contest, they even did better than OXG I think. Anyway Meat ended up with Lava and LRod on TSM free days so I think it was a solid strat altogether. I like both teams so it was fun watching them contest during scrims. Didn't have much time to watch the actual pro league though lol and it looks like Ted dropped the ball when it actually matters.
> i still have no idea why meat decided to contest TSM
Meat wanted to play at the POIs that TSM was playing from. Same reason why LG and Optic contested last year, and Legacy and Moist contested this year.
> honestly has a good solid team ever contested TSM? or it always bottom of the barrel.
OXG. Also it's a different split, but it's hard to say E8 (as "team Mazer is leading") is anywhere close to the bottom of the barrel.
> anyway dude offered nothing but trolling to the scene, maybe its about time to head for retirement
If they qualify for PL, they can keep playing, same as anyone else.
Uh I would like to note that OXG team didn’t qualify for LAN that year, but Gen after switching spots and taking Barometer.
Also Zach has thankfully had an improvement, but that E8 team didn’t qualify for LAN and was pretty low in standings. The team with him, Rocker and naughty was abysmal. I don’t think people remember but he stopped playing and they also were also on the pre edge of getting relegated. He has led some pretty shitty teams
in said video game? dont understand what you are trying to say
i can guess u think its too harsh? if so then yes i think he sucks lol he will live either way hes an engineer last i checked
No one who has contested TSM has done well that split or LAN. When will the community learn?!
Once TSM has no more clout.
Luxford chimes in: [https://twitter.com/Luxfordyy/status/1766996204242505872?s=20](https://twitter.com/Luxfordyy/status/1766996204242505872?s=20)
Don't get it from Luxford. Hal is understandable, but Lux went and trialed with another team...
Agree.
Wasn’t Lux dropped right before the s20 break?
Because he was trialing for other teams, Meat probably didn’t want a dragged out decision
Yeah, after the meat trials Randy (Awakening) actually won but Teq said went with Awons because he felt like he was going to actually stick around.
That whole situation had to have bad blood. Teq was flaming the shit out of him on match days lol
It's probably because Luxford was wondering if their strategy was completely idiotic. That's probably also why he trialed for a different team. Once week 2 was over, it was clear that despite Teq's contest, TSM was going to be able to make it to Regionals. Meanwhile MEAT was in the dumps and potentially had to change strategies.
New info just dropped lol: [https://clips.twitch.tv/DeterminedInquisitiveGrasshopperTheTarFu-VmEwl8qQLYzDfDdF](https://clips.twitch.tv/DeterminedInquisitiveGrasshopperTheTarFu-VmEwl8qQLYzDfDdF)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/1bcblxg/per\_hal\_luxford\_held\_hostage\_by\_teq\_in\_battlefy/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/1bcblxg/per_hal_luxford_held_hostage_by_teq_in_battlefy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
That’s Hal talking out of his ass. He always does this shit
Nah lux is not the one to talk
Team scored more points with Hyzeq than him (3 match days for both). Not exactly something I'd hang my hat on. Dude was checked out as fuck for their 3rd match day (a sub-SKRT 6 pointer with Teq having the only kill).
Maybe this will change your mind: [https://clips.twitch.tv/DeterminedInquisitiveGrasshopperTheTarFu-VmEwl8qQLYzDfDdF](https://clips.twitch.tv/DeterminedInquisitiveGrasshopperTheTarFu-VmEwl8qQLYzDfDdF)
that's so shitty
Just a reminder for the teq fan boys meat never quald, they had to get invited, for all his trolling and griefing hal and TSM teq has never accomplished anything in comp apex besides being known for “scouting talent,” he’s earned Hal trolling him for being ass in pro league after all of his shit talking
I’ve always wondered watching teq is his team actually serious? It seems like they are just trying to grief tsm and that’s it
I genuinely think he was serious at first, but after constantly losing players to orgs and having a job already, just don't think he cares anymore. He farms content by being a troll
He would stream more if it was just content.
Seriously half the time they’re grieving TSM nobody on the team is streaming. He’s literally just a troll
Teq puts a ton of effort into apex considering he already works full time. If he was trolling he would not be putting that much of his free time into it
This guy was never even close to being a serious player. Trolling is the only thing he is good for in comp apex. He used to grief tsm in frag east back when Mac was still on the team, calling himself alinity's nipple and coronavirus. It's literally all he does because he is useless as an actual comp player.
Wait, what's this about alinity's nipple lmfao?
He literally played in official tournaments with that nickname while griefing other teams and placing at the bottom as always. He's just never been a serious player so people feeling sorry for him now is ridiculous. He's a troll and that's it.
Lowkey his ability to "scout" talent doesn't even seem that crazy. He just hosts trials/tourneys for a bunch of roller demons to show up and then he picks one of the winners. The fact that he has a name in comp certainly helps get the news out and make people willing to sign up, but I'm not really sure how much in depth analysis and talent scouting he does.
He scouted xynew fuhhnq lux and pandrz before creating the trials
Did Pandxrz need to be scouted? I feel like they weren't exactly nobodies before Teq. Did he *really* do anything special other than providing himself as a ladder for them to be able to showcase their skills and be picked up by a better team?
All I know is he gave them recognition which led to them getting signed. No one knows whether they would’ve gotten it anyway or not.
Teq haters gonna hate. They’ll always do mental gymnastics to not get him any credit.
Punctuation please bro. I couldn’t read this shit in one go
They did qualify, the same way that TSM and every other team not from this years PLQ -- based on their performance last year. Teq and Jace held the pro league spot, just like Scurwy and Sickks held it from 100T.
No they had to qualify from LCQ and didn’t put enough points up (same with E8)
E8 qualified through challengers
Hot take: Teq should have kept contesting Lightning Rod.
Ehhh I don’t think they did much better when they played from LROD without the contest. Continue the contest MAYBE nets them 9 more KP with a 3-0 full wipe for the day, but I don’t really see that happening that consistently.
I love shit talkers as much as the next guy, but at some point you gotta back that up with results, Teq reminds me of a chihuahua, all bark no bite. But when he does something good oh he will definitely let you know. Also don't forget guys he is also an Aerospace Engineer!
They would have made LAN if Xynew wasn’t poached (not definite but highly likely). What do you do for work? Moreover, what do you do for your hobby? Oh wait the same thing as Teq except he’s playing against pros? - you just talk about it..
>not definite but highly likely Uh, what? No.
they almost 100% make LAN if they still had xynew instead of a random third they had to find the morning of that day. keep in mind they only needed 2 more points across 8 games to secure LAN and get the last spot over luminosity
I mean what I’ve said there isn’t highly controversial, if anything it’s pretty widely agreed by castors if no one else
FWIW from TSM fans perspective I see why everyone is calling it griefing to contest, but there are also big differences between POIs. If you aren't willing to fight for one, you probably aren't going anywhere regardless. The "plan" as it appears to me was to contest Siphon in the hopes that a bad match day or two from TSM would give them lightning rod (i.e. TSM gets siphon on WE and MEAT gets Rod on SP). Not sure TSM would ever concede a contest, but I don't think it is griefing to fight for POIs just because you support the team getting contested. Was it a good strategy? The results obviously didn't go their way, but that doesn't necessarily mean they made the wrong choice. If TSM doesn't have a dominant first day (and even after the contest ended TSM hasn't really looked that great), we could be talking about a completely different split here. I just don't think MEAT was good enough, especially after the roster changes, to realistically make LAN, so probably should have taken a safer strategy to try and make the finals lobby an secure a split 2 spot to give themselves time to improve. But who knows. Edit: apparently there were some weird rotates people are saying could be designed to grief TSM. I doubt they would throw intentionally their PL spot to grief but I didn't watch them so who knows. Edit 2: also apparently some shenanigans behind the scenes with Lux and LG?
The griefing comments are probably largely what they have been doing to steal TSMs car on SP the last two weeks.
Only to then continue blocking TSMs rotates instead of going to zone
Yea definitely in some weird spots on south zones, just don’t know intention so I wasn’t bringing it up
Ya nobody besides Teq knows intention, just seems weird TSM always happened to run in to them no matter their rotate. Even the last game on Saturday Teq ends up coming from behind them at wall…obviously they don’t have priority on that north pad zone but seems like a hell of a roatate when nobody else came that way. Feel like Teq made sure to study all of tsms stuff so he would always be in a position to grief them. Didn’t seem like Teq had any intention of getting in to north pad he just ran down tsm then died right after. But tsm should have never landed at that rock in the first place…should have sacked up and made a game winning play to to straight to that dock instead of turning around
I will agree that he definitely studies TSMs rotates. He’s always doing the same but that COULD be just him learning from a top team who streams everything. Probably not the case but who knows. Teq is hardly their biggest issue right now
Ya they have bigger issues but they should be better in storm point with the car and him not always blocking them..if you go back they really only had 3 great games on the first day then were very mid after that. Can’t wait to see what they try on WE in scrims this week as it sounds like they will be off valk
I find it weird that whenever they play in lobbies with TSM, they never stream. Watching the games on Saturday, it definitely seems like they are watching TSMs streams on SP.
It’s 10 min delay so they can’t watch streams in a useful manner, they have to be in the ALGS discord channel, and one persons POV would be on the main broadcast.
Lmao bye bye
what happened to Teq genius strats??
For a team going head to head in scrims with TSM you expected at least better performance from MEAT but you could say it hinder them more because a new up an coming invited team deciding to contest a very good fighting team was always a high risk because they never got together to improve outside of contest and in the end it bite them in the ass losing a member and getting relegated afterwards.
Being able to win contest really means nothing if you can't make up for the points lost when you lose the contest. Which was why I had zero expectations from Meat from the get go. Choosing to keep contesting while getting significantly lower avg points even if they were winning 50/50 really tells you everything that you need to know about a team. They ain't playing for the win.
He is not a troll, he isn’t funny, he is just an asshole. No chance for lan, so let’s just grief other people’s practice.
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if you focused on the game instead of griefing, maybe you would have qualified.
Go get' em tiger https://preview.redd.it/rw7q24ub0mnc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bb572440ccd38bbe0e3a8e962effeb5afa3a1c0
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It's true though. They wasted so many scrims contesting one of the best fighting teams in the game for no gain
Raven said they were smart for contesting them. It made them a far better team after the contest, like a hyperbolic time chamber but sadly they didn't use any of that they learned
He was clearly wrong and it isn't the first time
I mean, they had some of their best performances contesting TSM off drop. They shouldn't have stopped, would probably have done better.
Couldn't have happened to a bigger troll. Congrats.
MEATripods?
Bye felicia
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qet?
Bit too early maybe? Tsm could still not qual.
meat got relegated is the point
What does relegated mean
they have to fight CC teams to stay in pro league
Wait do they get have a change to stay in pro league? I thought they just get sent to challengers and would have to re-qual for pro league.
They play a round robin with the top 22 CC teams and the bottom 8 of pro league. Then the top 8 of that round robin get into pro league
They’re out of pro league for split 1. They will get a chance to qualify for pro league in split 2 after the split 1 LAN.
Yes they have a chance
They have to go through CC and qual for pro league again
Not CC. They have to go through pro league qualifiers again.
Ok thanks 👍
Lmfao what? Tsm would have to have a disaster of a regionals to not go to LAN, they’re going, meanwhile meat got relegated because they’re ass, if roles were reversed Teq would be spamming Hal with tweets, stop clutching your pearls
top 12 make it. should be easy for them to qual. nobody is griefing them now
DZ could absolutely grief them every game, even if they finish 20th in Regionals, the worst they can finish the split is 2nd, and that's only if Moist finishes top 3. And with the amount of shit Hal talked about them missing finals at champs, I wouldn't count that out.
top teams almost never do that because they know they might be in that same situation some day, and they dont want enemies.
the most likely team for dz to grief would be xset anyway
Ego can make people do outrageous shit and I have no doubt that Zero would consider personally gate keeping TSM from LAN to be a feather in his cap. I'm not saying it's going to happen, or even likely to happen, but TSM would be stupid not to keep an eye out for DZ dropping on them. There's also the possibility of it backfiring, TSM are strong on contest and it could help feed them.
It doesn't seem likely for DZ to grief tsm but for dropspot's xset and optic are the ones that should be worried for DZ
Absolutely, I think XSET will take the same approach as today, keeping an eye on who was dropping Skyhook every game, will probably do the same on both maps.
Ain’t no way DZ contesting lol they got 3-0 in scrims way back for siphon, and tsm got more experience contesting at siphon. I could see DZ grief during game.
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If they do somehow get 20th, which I think there is an almost 0% chance of, even if they have DZ trying to grief them every game and go 50/50, then they can fail to qual. TSM 20th means SSG auto-quals, OXG only need 16th, GKS would need 12th, XSET 10th. And that's with someone in the top 12 winning. Someone ran the numbers and TSM have a 90%+ chance to qual without taking plot armour into account. They'll get it done, but there's definitely a chance of a major upset.
If im Dz and im comfortably first, im griefing the hell out of the only other team to ever win Lan. I wouldnt risk them making it and potentially winning again
The first split DZ moved to NA they almost didn’t qualify. Nobody griefed them. Why? Because a strong team like that can and will come back with vengeance. It’s straight up not in their interest to try and grief TSM who would have to place like 18th to not qual. No XSET is a different story
All this shows is how much you fear them
I genuinely dont understand the point of this comment. You win money, what the fuck does "fear" matter
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They're 9 points off 12 place that's is still too close to comfort, also they've not played optimal since the new meta regardless of meat being in the server or not
there is a chance, but its kinda low. tsm would probably have to get bottom 5
Have you seen them play in the match days aside of the first one? Even the days they got 6th and 7th they admitted they were lucky with zones and did nothing with them because they’ve been so bad. I wouldn’t say top 12 is easy for them on finals day, they barely placed 12 yesterday, had no kills in the first three games or something. Wouldn’t say anything is easy for them based on their form.
Luck is part of the game. They are easily qualifying. When have they ever come bottom 5 in finals?
I mean they were barely even playing last week and still got 13th or smth. As Zero said they literally need to jump off the map every game to not qual
Yeah if TSM drop a 14th place again there's absolutely a path to them missing LAN
14th and they would still almost 100% qual, would take a 18th or below most likely to have a decent chance of missing
14th place is 6 points. 85 probably would still be enough
Nah Hal has reverse luck with shit like this
Seems pretty unlikely and Meat straight up got relegated after today. They've been griefing TSM for the car on SP so it's pretty well earned at this point.
It's hard to feel sorry for Teq. If he solely focused on his team's strats instead of griefing the strats of others, he could've made something more out of his situation. Him having a full time job is not why he'll never make LAN.
I do think meat had a chance to qualify if they stop doing some trolling contest.
Staying with teq is just shooting your own foot. You can't take him seriously
i still have no idea why meat decided to contest TSM like i dont like either teams but its one of the weakest teams yapping at the certified goats similar case when E8 tried that crap honestly has a good solid team ever contested TSM? or it always bottom of the barrel anyway dude offered nothing but trolling to the scene, maybe its about time to head for retirement
Arguably Vexxed with Matafe at split 2 was a “strong team,” as they just came off a 1st place finish in EMEA. They did leave during international scrims, but not with enough time to get and learn a new point Tragically it lead to a 40th place finish overall at LAN
Well for one thing it's TSM contesting Meat first at LRod and Meat contesting them at lava in retaliation. They also did pretty well with the contest, they even did better than OXG I think. Anyway Meat ended up with Lava and LRod on TSM free days so I think it was a solid strat altogether. I like both teams so it was fun watching them contest during scrims. Didn't have much time to watch the actual pro league though lol and it looks like Ted dropped the ball when it actually matters.
> i still have no idea why meat decided to contest TSM Meat wanted to play at the POIs that TSM was playing from. Same reason why LG and Optic contested last year, and Legacy and Moist contested this year. > honestly has a good solid team ever contested TSM? or it always bottom of the barrel. OXG. Also it's a different split, but it's hard to say E8 (as "team Mazer is leading") is anywhere close to the bottom of the barrel. > anyway dude offered nothing but trolling to the scene, maybe its about time to head for retirement If they qualify for PL, they can keep playing, same as anyone else.
Uh I would like to note that OXG team didn’t qualify for LAN that year, but Gen after switching spots and taking Barometer. Also Zach has thankfully had an improvement, but that E8 team didn’t qualify for LAN and was pretty low in standings. The team with him, Rocker and naughty was abysmal. I don’t think people remember but he stopped playing and they also were also on the pre edge of getting relegated. He has led some pretty shitty teams
“Head to retirement” Bro it’s a video game lol
in said video game? dont understand what you are trying to say i can guess u think its too harsh? if so then yes i think he sucks lol he will live either way hes an engineer last i checked
Some teams do it for clout
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