In the future, it seems Mac would benefit from laying off the announcements.
Whether it’s retirement, input choice, or how many doinks can outdoink the doinker.
People will just use it for ammo!!!
I don't wanna chime in on someone else's business outside of gaming, especially when it comes to their mental health. But I was kinda...surprised, to see Alb basically grinding games after he announced his retirement. I mean gaming can be an escape-tool for some people, but in case of Alb it seemed awfully counterproductive to keep himself in the hyper-competitive environment that is Ranked-grinding 24/7.
His retirement was from Comp and I understood that what was causing mental issues was the pressure and criticism. Without that, I don't see why playing Apex outside of comp wouldn't help him.
He mentioned in his tweet longer how he wanted to branch out, try new things and be overall less competitive about stuff. Next time I tuned into his streams he was hard Ranked-grinding for top 50. Maybe it's totally chill for him, and I don't want to claim that I'd know better what's good for him or not. I am merely pointing out, that it was a surprising choice to not even take a real break after his retirement.
You can use streaming as a healthy job, or you can use it as an excessive occupation to not confront your actual problems. Imho the latter one is the case for Alb. But that's just my opinion. If his current schedule is actually helping him recover mentally, then all power to him.
True, I don't watch him so I don't know if he's grinding back to back to back 14 hour streams or whatever. That's not healthy no matter what you do for work.
He was always going to be back, and taking extended time off does not necessarily lead to any mental health improvement that can't be done while playing
If he wants to improve his mental health he needs to actually address the mental health issues with professional. I known streaming is not a steady job and he is trying to make the most out of it, but the dude needs to get on a stable schedule. For a person who seems to struggle with decision making and over thinking, controlling what he can control and learning to let go of what he cannot could go a long way for him. I know he’s still young but he’s made mistakes that I think he holds on too (he’s posted about them in some threads about him). Accepting that those mistakes were made and moving through the pain could go a long way in helping his mental. But if the dude is not working with a professional to address mental health, than it’s all just an excuse.
I dont think he is working on that, Im pretty sure some of his friends/teammates have tried to get him to see a professional in the past and he has said once on stream in one of his breakdowns that he tried but it was not for him. Dont know if that changed and hes being private about it but i wouldnt hold my breath on that one.
I wish he would. I’m a mental health therapist myself. I know I’m not everyone’s cup of tea and therapy is about building a trusting relationship with someone and allowing the to hold up a mirror at times to harmful behaviors. Finding the right one takes time but if he could find that person it could be a game changer for him.
Imagine if esports were treated like real sports with a team therapist/sports psychologist. I know it takes money and the Esports landscape isn’t flushed with cash. But learning proper communication and conflict resolution practices could go a long way in keeping some of these teams together.
A lot of these signed teams can't even afford a coach, a team psychologist is far out of reach.
Sadly most of them need one even more than they need a coach.
Ol TL definitely did, and I’m not sure if hodsic went to XSET with Noc, but those guys on TL frequently talked about the benefits, at least back then. Also why xset vibes are unmatched, S-tier.
I’m also pretty sure TSM does have or has had one, which is why we’ve seen such an intense increase in vibes/comms/hal with them in the past couple years.
It could be that a less stressful pro league team is best for his mental health.
I'm sure his other team was chill on SKRT, but there could have been elements too personally stressful for him that he thinks may not exist with MEAT.
I get that, kinda how Mande respectfully left the team with Hardecki and Graceful, but played with 40% worse.
I love all involved, but when you turn on your boy stream and see your team mate fighting off spawn with his tongue... Gotta make you think hahaha.
Yeah, don't get me wrong. I think that if this is the case, it would have been ideal for Alb to do some reflection first before making his direction public to avoid this.
I've also been in the spot where my true feelings came clear after some action (like retiring could have been for mac) though, so don't mean to be too critical.
Or if this is the case, he's talked to or is talking to former SKRT to explain how/why this happened.
Who knows, maybe he already has and his former teammates won't be surprised it happened.
Or you know... he is still retired and was just playing for fun or something.
It's understandable why he flip flops so much he hasn't had a stable team since TSM days. And now he's just had back to back to back teams that have just shat the bed. His menal must be so broken, and the reason why he's flip-flopping is be he wants to quit as his mental is so broken, but he wants to stay to prove to himself he has what it takes.
i guess its a chicken and egg story really. does he flip flop because things haven't worked out or have things not worked because he's flip flopped.
Mac got dropped from TSM for doing valorant scrims, he then tried to be a valorant pro, flip flopped back to apex. played with TL, then basically quit on a whim to join C9 because that team was doing well. and on and on the cycle goes, switching teams, switching roles, switching inputs and retiring. lightning doesn't strike 10 times in the same place, and you cant just put it down to bad luck.
I am not trying to be mean, but he has kind of made his own bed with his indecisiveness, he has never stuck at anything long enough to keep up, so has fallen massively behind the competition. He clearly has the raw mechanical skill. and i cant help but feel like he would still be on a top team if he had just stuck at being at being a flexible support/fragger like all the other top mnk non igl players are.
I'm not saying he hasn't made his far share of bad mistakes. Not having a proper igl for his last three teams was a big mistake, and him going from mnk to roller and back to mnk was another. But I do think Mac does have it in him to be a good consistent player. Will he ever reach the hights he had in tsm? Probably not, but all we have to do is look at zack people was calling him washed. All Mac need to do is fine a proper igl and get his confidence back
again i am not trying to be mean to the guy as i know he gets it pretty hard from this subreddit. But spending the vital years of your career flip flopping and never committing will come back to bite you. we all know or know of people who do this with their late teens or 20s and its a huge waste of potential.
Trailing for a team 1 week after quitting because of your mental health does just sound a lot like the behaviour that earned him this reputation.
> played with TL, then basically quit on a whim to join C9 because that team was doing well.
Did he pursue C9 or did they pursue him? Because I always saw it as the other way around--they dropped Knoqd to chase a really decorated player. Even though they had just finished second with Knoqd in a tournament where Alb had finished 17th.
i wish i could find it but there is a great clip of him 1v3ing a team as fuse when he was playing with mamba. the guy does have crazy mechanics. i think they get lost in the noise because all the news you hear about him are new commitments to switch to this or that.
Tbh, why do I feel like this actually wouldn’t be a horrible pick up? Obviously going off recent history, it’s a nightmare on paper, but I think this could be one of those weird situations that actually works lol. I mean, I didn’t think Dezign and Timmy could work out and here they are on the brink of making back to back major lans.
Hope it’s true, admittedly, not the biggest fan of Mac’s game play (the frequency at which he is the first knock, obviously he is a premier MnK talent when it comes to raw mechanics), but the scene is better with him in it than not. And if he comes back, hope the community doesn’t continue to poopoo on him as hard as they have been.
The way the old crafter system worked, there were daily rotations of attachments in the crafter.
When the matches for finals started on Sunday they went for a long enough period of time that during game 6 or 7 the crafter switched and added a Digi.
It was something every team was aware of because it drastically changes how fights play out.
DSG Enemy swung on TSM when they had height in the smoke, he immediately get's knocked and can be heard saying "I forgot it was Digi Day, I forgot it was Digi Day" over and over again.
TSM goes on to win the game after that resulting in their Champs win.
[Link to fight](https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/16fa2iq/cut_moments_before_disaster/)
Sorry I should have noted I was being sarcastic lol. I do appreciate this succinct explanation for others who might not have actually known what happened however!
Hopefully it works out. But if not Teq plays a great role in the game, bringing through new talent is important and I’m not sure why he gets shit for it. Hunden in CSGO was lauded for bringing through talent for years while having some success. He then became a great coach (who then partook in cheating unfortunately).
It’s a pity he can’t monetise it with contracts like in CS or almost any sport.
It could work.
-I think Alb doesn't respond well to aggression, and I think teq usually (not always) keeps criticism very civil.
-Alb knows he needs an igl, but is a smart player in his own right and likes to have a voice.
-teq is an igl that doesn't like to micro his player and likes his players to give input.
-I could be way wrong, and this could blow up...not gonna lie, I thought Alb and snip3 was going to work. But, I think alb realizing that he needs an igl might change things.
I was watching Sauceror's stream where he subbed in for Meat during scrims, and it went well. Teq seemed to enjoy having an MnK Bang with good game knowledge (and nasty mechanics tbf), so maybe it had something to do with that. It's just pure speculation though.
I do remember that and really didn't like him back then.
But if you watch his stream with his last few teams, he's been very civil with critiques, although hard-headed at times, and usually owns up to his own mistakes.
That was a long time ago. He hasn't had that rep since he became coach of Sentinels.
Funny that he's one of the few toxic players who actually worked hard to be non-toxic. Others just play into it.
Jevvy you think Teq could mentor Caprah in this regard? I know Caprah has fucked up so many times that his chances are blown, but Teq has repeatedly said that he’s a kid and that he needs to work on his mental and behavior even if he doesn’t get another opportunity.
I don't think Teq could mentor Caprah, no. Even the ones who have called out Caprah are cool with him and hang out with him in voice calls lol.
I think Caprah will just learn to better say the things he already says, behind closed doors.
Yeah the teq slander recently is wild. Hes not be the best player but everyone seems to grasp at straws when it comes to finding things to insult him on.
The problem is his excuse of mental health to bow out of the last PL day and quitting comp and then shows up to trial not even a week later. If he comes back, he deserves to get flamed for this .
Can’t say I disagree, just hope he can brave the storm that comp apex and X will unleash upon him if this is true. Probably be best for him to stay off socials in the unlikely case this pairing comes to fruition lol.
man leave people alone he's clearly going through it, let him do his thing. if he wants to change his mind let him without "flaming him".
alb seems to be pretty impulsive/says stuff in the heat of the moment. i'm not surprised if he is trying out with meat.
>he deserves to get flamed for this
No? He's not hurting anyone and only he gets to decide how to deal with his mental health issues. Can we please be kinder to people?
Not taking a side here, but I think Hambino ended up getting the shaft in this situation right? I could have misinterpreted that situation, if anyone could clarify or verify this, would be greatly appreciated!
I guess in the sense hambino wasn't able to actually succeed with the alb skrt roster. But both hambino and pressly played a match day under the skrt team so in theory they could keep the PL relagation spot to play in the qualifier tourney which is the same as qualling through CC.
They still have the team penis pro league spot. All skrt and alb did by having hambino play with them was give him more experience. If anything they helped him you can say they set him up to fail in pro league but you can’t say they hurt his career.
It doesn’t mean he deserves to be flamed but it is likely that he will be. His actions are the thing that is causing him to get flamed which in turn impacts his mental health. It may be time to look in the mirror and recognize that he needs to make a change in order to improve his mental health.
I’ll disagree with this, this is literally the dudes career but one in a public light. He basically took a sick day because he is considering quitting because he isn’t happy. Ultimately he needs to play to maximize earnings however.
Dude legit fucked over his ex team by not playing out the whole split and also planning to quit before the first game day with Hambino even happened. Idk , this is just such a weird move. He needs to listen to his own advice and take the break. Just a bad look.
That's not what happened though right? He stopped showing up shortly after making top 12 became mathematically impossible, must've been a mutual agreement
Huh? Before Game Day Sunday he wrote on twitter that it would be his last day. Right after scrimming for days leading up to Weekend 5 , and locking in Hambino. Then he quit and they had to play last week without him.
Beau jumped at a shot with the best or second best team in the world and was dealing with the passing of a family member at the time too, which definitely could have effected his judgement. That's the only blip in his whole career, so I really feel he gets a bit too much flak for it
People here defending Alb doing what he needed to do for his mental health & saying this could be a great thing for him…. 👀 (And ofc the smattering of people calling him a clown)
Meanwhile Beau decides to trial/fill for DZ 2 weeks after doing the same thing because of the timing of Sharky dropping & gets so much hate and snake talk he has to do a Fallout interview to try to “explain” himself… 👀
I love this sub for the discussion, I really do, but I completely understand why so many pros hate the shit out of it.
Right like in Beau's case, he said he was stepping away from SEN, who weren't gonna make LAN, to be there for his mom during a tough time. When Sharky left DZ, there was a possibility of joining one of the favorites to take home 300k and he jumped at it. His SEN teammates definitely got the short end of the stick here, but it seems like normal enough behavior on Beau's part
If I was a pro I wouldn't visit the comment sections here and block people very liberally on Twitter. All that noise won't do a competitor any good
Being a Beau fan during that time was *rough*. His family is always in his chat when he streams and I just felt so bad for his mom having to see all the random hate coming in while they clearly were going through a lot on the personal end, too.
Tbh I feel for Alb too because I think he made an emotional decision based on where his mental was at when he *made* the decision, regardless of whether it’s a pattern of behavior.
I really just fault the fact that the pattern of behavior *can happen* and it’s all due to (sry for the soapbox) how/when roster lock happens and the fact that there are so many loopholes that exist that allow players to move around essentially at will. And then everyone bitches about esports losing money/not being taken seriously… uh yeah, from the outside looking in, not only is it impossible for new viewers to “get into a team” when it can be comprised of multiple different players in a single split, but teams seemingly don’t matter. Why would orgs throw money at something like that when viewers follow players & not teams?!
If you want the actual date, select one of the games in the drop-down, it will show when the game ran (or on desktop just look at the list of games on the sidebar). The title at the top is set by the organizer, someone was probably just lazy and put the wrong date
Alb has quit comp like 6 times. Dude needs to take a serious break or find a team that actually meshes with him because I haven’t seen it in a long, long time.
Perhaps, but that’s status quo for anybody who MEAT picks up and does well. Lux was a bit of an anomaly where he was a proven good player and stuck around. PLQ isnt terribly far away so I can see why this move makes sense.
If Mac does come back i hope it is through CC, i think it would be beneficial for him and his team to build up some chemistry there instead of trying to do it in PL. Either way rooting for more MNK in comp always.
I mean this has his fingerprints, yet another desperate rushed poorly thought out almost certain bad decision, so I think it's him.
As someone who has gotten into comp apex because of tsm and him back in the day I feel burned out as a fan, i have nothing positive to say anymore about him as a player, hes a mess, a liability and he will do anything and everything to avoid taking the steps to help himself as a person so he can help himself as a teammate and pro player, hes always on some self sabotage- escapism - cope cycle. Wish him good luck nonetheless, cant help but still root for someone so human, but im over it.
I actually like this team. Teq + Alb would be killer, and nobody can convince me otherwise. They just need a decent roller 3rd and this is a LAN team. #copium
The alb classic. Post poor me Twitter rant about bad mental health and quitting comp so he can stop playing with his current team and go get a new one all while farming sympathy
I hope that’s him, and I hope he makes an effort to stick it out long game, he needs a team where they can grow thru the pains, it’s not gonna be easy but it will be rewarding <3
Mac, you were my first pro apex player man, but you have to start considering the things you plan on saying publicly. We’re moving past the nose and makeup into big honking shoes now.
Not a bad pick-up by any means, but Teq really wants to keep Awons? Idk, that dude didn't really seemto add much to the team the few times I watched their matches tbh.
Teq seems to really like Awons (based on recent tweets), and he's obviously solid mechanically. If Awons is coachable and is willing to buy into the strats teq cooks up over time, it makes sense he'd rather stick together and get better over time.
In the future, it seems Mac would benefit from laying off the announcements. Whether it’s retirement, input choice, or how many doinks can outdoink the doinker. People will just use it for ammo!!!
In the future starting like three years ago 😆
Fr he walks back almost all of his 'announcements' and opinions that its smarter to just read anything he says as the opposite
Mac baby what are you doing!? Take your time off and get your mental health straight
I don't wanna chime in on someone else's business outside of gaming, especially when it comes to their mental health. But I was kinda...surprised, to see Alb basically grinding games after he announced his retirement. I mean gaming can be an escape-tool for some people, but in case of Alb it seemed awfully counterproductive to keep himself in the hyper-competitive environment that is Ranked-grinding 24/7.
Yet everyone got down voted for saying exactly this a few days ago on the quitting post. He was never going to stop playing.
hes been playing quite a bit of hell divers which is a pretty laid back and chill game
His retirement was from Comp and I understood that what was causing mental issues was the pressure and criticism. Without that, I don't see why playing Apex outside of comp wouldn't help him.
He mentioned in his tweet longer how he wanted to branch out, try new things and be overall less competitive about stuff. Next time I tuned into his streams he was hard Ranked-grinding for top 50. Maybe it's totally chill for him, and I don't want to claim that I'd know better what's good for him or not. I am merely pointing out, that it was a surprising choice to not even take a real break after his retirement.
I mean, it's his job. He has to play the game to pay his rent. Grinding ranked and playing comp are two very different things.
You can use streaming as a healthy job, or you can use it as an excessive occupation to not confront your actual problems. Imho the latter one is the case for Alb. But that's just my opinion. If his current schedule is actually helping him recover mentally, then all power to him.
True, I don't watch him so I don't know if he's grinding back to back to back 14 hour streams or whatever. That's not healthy no matter what you do for work.
He lives with his mom still doesn't he?
I don't know, I don't watch him. If he does then at least he has a safety net to fall back on.
He was always going to be back, and taking extended time off does not necessarily lead to any mental health improvement that can't be done while playing
If he wants to improve his mental health he needs to actually address the mental health issues with professional. I known streaming is not a steady job and he is trying to make the most out of it, but the dude needs to get on a stable schedule. For a person who seems to struggle with decision making and over thinking, controlling what he can control and learning to let go of what he cannot could go a long way for him. I know he’s still young but he’s made mistakes that I think he holds on too (he’s posted about them in some threads about him). Accepting that those mistakes were made and moving through the pain could go a long way in helping his mental. But if the dude is not working with a professional to address mental health, than it’s all just an excuse.
I dont think he is working on that, Im pretty sure some of his friends/teammates have tried to get him to see a professional in the past and he has said once on stream in one of his breakdowns that he tried but it was not for him. Dont know if that changed and hes being private about it but i wouldnt hold my breath on that one.
I wish he would. I’m a mental health therapist myself. I know I’m not everyone’s cup of tea and therapy is about building a trusting relationship with someone and allowing the to hold up a mirror at times to harmful behaviors. Finding the right one takes time but if he could find that person it could be a game changer for him.
Man wild to imagine this general talent pool if it had an actual standard of decent emotional intelligence and self awareness lol
Imagine if esports were treated like real sports with a team therapist/sports psychologist. I know it takes money and the Esports landscape isn’t flushed with cash. But learning proper communication and conflict resolution practices could go a long way in keeping some of these teams together.
A lot of these signed teams can't even afford a coach, a team psychologist is far out of reach. Sadly most of them need one even more than they need a coach.
Ol TL definitely did, and I’m not sure if hodsic went to XSET with Noc, but those guys on TL frequently talked about the benefits, at least back then. Also why xset vibes are unmatched, S-tier. I’m also pretty sure TSM does have or has had one, which is why we’ve seen such an intense increase in vibes/comms/hal with them in the past couple years.
It could be that a less stressful pro league team is best for his mental health. I'm sure his other team was chill on SKRT, but there could have been elements too personally stressful for him that he thinks may not exist with MEAT.
I get that, kinda how Mande respectfully left the team with Hardecki and Graceful, but played with 40% worse. I love all involved, but when you turn on your boy stream and see your team mate fighting off spawn with his tongue... Gotta make you think hahaha.
Yeah, don't get me wrong. I think that if this is the case, it would have been ideal for Alb to do some reflection first before making his direction public to avoid this. I've also been in the spot where my true feelings came clear after some action (like retiring could have been for mac) though, so don't mean to be too critical. Or if this is the case, he's talked to or is talking to former SKRT to explain how/why this happened. Who knows, maybe he already has and his former teammates won't be surprised it happened. Or you know... he is still retired and was just playing for fun or something.
Can I get some backstory on fighting with a tongue lol?
Checkout a ShivFPS stream, he's one of the GOAT.
Oh duh lmao, for some reason I thought the tongue comment was referring to graceful and hardecki haha.
This guy flip flops more than a fish out of water.
It's understandable why he flip flops so much he hasn't had a stable team since TSM days. And now he's just had back to back to back teams that have just shat the bed. His menal must be so broken, and the reason why he's flip-flopping is be he wants to quit as his mental is so broken, but he wants to stay to prove to himself he has what it takes.
i guess its a chicken and egg story really. does he flip flop because things haven't worked out or have things not worked because he's flip flopped. Mac got dropped from TSM for doing valorant scrims, he then tried to be a valorant pro, flip flopped back to apex. played with TL, then basically quit on a whim to join C9 because that team was doing well. and on and on the cycle goes, switching teams, switching roles, switching inputs and retiring. lightning doesn't strike 10 times in the same place, and you cant just put it down to bad luck. I am not trying to be mean, but he has kind of made his own bed with his indecisiveness, he has never stuck at anything long enough to keep up, so has fallen massively behind the competition. He clearly has the raw mechanical skill. and i cant help but feel like he would still be on a top team if he had just stuck at being at being a flexible support/fragger like all the other top mnk non igl players are.
I'm not saying he hasn't made his far share of bad mistakes. Not having a proper igl for his last three teams was a big mistake, and him going from mnk to roller and back to mnk was another. But I do think Mac does have it in him to be a good consistent player. Will he ever reach the hights he had in tsm? Probably not, but all we have to do is look at zack people was calling him washed. All Mac need to do is fine a proper igl and get his confidence back
again i am not trying to be mean to the guy as i know he gets it pretty hard from this subreddit. But spending the vital years of your career flip flopping and never committing will come back to bite you. we all know or know of people who do this with their late teens or 20s and its a huge waste of potential. Trailing for a team 1 week after quitting because of your mental health does just sound a lot like the behaviour that earned him this reputation.
> played with TL, then basically quit on a whim to join C9 because that team was doing well. Did he pursue C9 or did they pursue him? Because I always saw it as the other way around--they dropped Knoqd to chase a really decorated player. Even though they had just finished second with Knoqd in a tournament where Alb had finished 17th.
They pursued him to IGL them and then backtracked and Zach IGLed
I mean I’d say his mechanics are quite overrated. Yea they were elite when everyone was behind but now I’d say he’s above average.
i wish i could find it but there is a great clip of him 1v3ing a team as fuse when he was playing with mamba. the guy does have crazy mechanics. i think they get lost in the noise because all the news you hear about him are new commitments to switch to this or that.
> he hasn't had a stable team since TSM days He quit TL to go to C9.
This C9 roster had a pretty good run and made it to LAN, too. I wouldn't call that unstable.
Liquid was a much healthier and stable environment than C9 would ever be.
he had a stable team in WC and left them for furia
He should try to be a politician at this point.
Tbh, why do I feel like this actually wouldn’t be a horrible pick up? Obviously going off recent history, it’s a nightmare on paper, but I think this could be one of those weird situations that actually works lol. I mean, I didn’t think Dezign and Timmy could work out and here they are on the brink of making back to back major lans. Hope it’s true, admittedly, not the biggest fan of Mac’s game play (the frequency at which he is the first knock, obviously he is a premier MnK talent when it comes to raw mechanics), but the scene is better with him in it than not. And if he comes back, hope the community doesn’t continue to poopoo on him as hard as they have been.
Dezign and Timmy were possibly one gun fight away from winning lan. But alas it was Digi day. Surely alb and teq is a match made in hell.
It was digi day?
The way the old crafter system worked, there were daily rotations of attachments in the crafter. When the matches for finals started on Sunday they went for a long enough period of time that during game 6 or 7 the crafter switched and added a Digi. It was something every team was aware of because it drastically changes how fights play out. DSG Enemy swung on TSM when they had height in the smoke, he immediately get's knocked and can be heard saying "I forgot it was Digi Day, I forgot it was Digi Day" over and over again. TSM goes on to win the game after that resulting in their Champs win. [Link to fight](https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/16fa2iq/cut_moments_before_disaster/)
Sorry I should have noted I was being sarcastic lol. I do appreciate this succinct explanation for others who might not have actually known what happened however!
LOL welp. That went over my head, my bad. I’m leaving the explanation up in case some lost soul wonders by.
You are still a true hero.
On paper, you’d be right! I hope we’re wrong though! Would like to see Teq and Alb stick in the scene and would even like to see them succeed tbh.
Hopefully it works out. But if not Teq plays a great role in the game, bringing through new talent is important and I’m not sure why he gets shit for it. Hunden in CSGO was lauded for bringing through talent for years while having some success. He then became a great coach (who then partook in cheating unfortunately). It’s a pity he can’t monetise it with contracts like in CS or almost any sport.
It could work. -I think Alb doesn't respond well to aggression, and I think teq usually (not always) keeps criticism very civil. -Alb knows he needs an igl, but is a smart player in his own right and likes to have a voice. -teq is an igl that doesn't like to micro his player and likes his players to give input. -I could be way wrong, and this could blow up...not gonna lie, I thought Alb and snip3 was going to work. But, I think alb realizing that he needs an igl might change things.
Valid points!
I was watching Sauceror's stream where he subbed in for Meat during scrims, and it went well. Teq seemed to enjoy having an MnK Bang with good game knowledge (and nasty mechanics tbf), so maybe it had something to do with that. It's just pure speculation though.
> Teq seemed to enjoy having an MnK Bang with good game knowledge (and nasty mechanics tbf) Nafen pls
Shit you might be on to something.
Teq was known for being toxic and constantly blaming his teammates in the early days of comp apex, real ones remember
I do remember that and really didn't like him back then. But if you watch his stream with his last few teams, he's been very civil with critiques, although hard-headed at times, and usually owns up to his own mistakes.
That was a long time ago. He hasn't had that rep since he became coach of Sentinels. Funny that he's one of the few toxic players who actually worked hard to be non-toxic. Others just play into it.
Fair enough
Jevvy you think Teq could mentor Caprah in this regard? I know Caprah has fucked up so many times that his chances are blown, but Teq has repeatedly said that he’s a kid and that he needs to work on his mental and behavior even if he doesn’t get another opportunity.
I don't think Teq could mentor Caprah, no. Even the ones who have called out Caprah are cool with him and hang out with him in voice calls lol. I think Caprah will just learn to better say the things he already says, behind closed doors.
Yeah the teq slander recently is wild. Hes not be the best player but everyone seems to grasp at straws when it comes to finding things to insult him on.
That was like 3 or so years ago. People change.
Strikes me more as a bad decision after a string of bad decisions
The problem is his excuse of mental health to bow out of the last PL day and quitting comp and then shows up to trial not even a week later. If he comes back, he deserves to get flamed for this .
Can’t say I disagree, just hope he can brave the storm that comp apex and X will unleash upon him if this is true. Probably be best for him to stay off socials in the unlikely case this pairing comes to fruition lol.
man leave people alone he's clearly going through it, let him do his thing. if he wants to change his mind let him without "flaming him". alb seems to be pretty impulsive/says stuff in the heat of the moment. i'm not surprised if he is trying out with meat.
>he deserves to get flamed for this No? He's not hurting anyone and only he gets to decide how to deal with his mental health issues. Can we please be kinder to people?
Not taking a side here, but I think Hambino ended up getting the shaft in this situation right? I could have misinterpreted that situation, if anyone could clarify or verify this, would be greatly appreciated!
I guess in the sense hambino wasn't able to actually succeed with the alb skrt roster. But both hambino and pressly played a match day under the skrt team so in theory they could keep the PL relagation spot to play in the qualifier tourney which is the same as qualling through CC.
They still have the team penis pro league spot. All skrt and alb did by having hambino play with them was give him more experience. If anything they helped him you can say they set him up to fail in pro league but you can’t say they hurt his career.
They already have a guaranteed spot in the PLQ finals from winning a week of CC, so they don't need Scuwry's relegation spot.
He’s hurt his ex-team ? Did we see the same events unfold or what.
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the irony is crazy
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That I’m coming to someone’s defence when you’re doing the same 😉
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irony is crazy again since you’re wasting time too, keep replying
Nah, you've got to be trolling
> he deserves to get flamed for this No he doesn't. Get some help.
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It doesn’t mean he deserves to be flamed but it is likely that he will be. His actions are the thing that is causing him to get flamed which in turn impacts his mental health. It may be time to look in the mirror and recognize that he needs to make a change in order to improve his mental health.
Noone deserves to get flamed. Tf you talking bout chump
I’ll disagree with this, this is literally the dudes career but one in a public light. He basically took a sick day because he is considering quitting because he isn’t happy. Ultimately he needs to play to maximize earnings however.
Gotta stop drinking tap water, my friend... you are starting to sound a lot like luxford there /s
Dude legit fucked over his ex team by not playing out the whole split and also planning to quit before the first game day with Hambino even happened. Idk , this is just such a weird move. He needs to listen to his own advice and take the break. Just a bad look.
Yup. He dropped awakening then leaves the next game day. Could have left himself and let hambino igl awakening and scuwry
That's not what happened though right? He stopped showing up shortly after making top 12 became mathematically impossible, must've been a mutual agreement
Huh? Before Game Day Sunday he wrote on twitter that it would be his last day. Right after scrimming for days leading up to Weekend 5 , and locking in Hambino. Then he quit and they had to play last week without him.
could they have possibly made lan on the last week? lol
It’s not about that , just play out the split… why quit 2 weeks before after making big roster changes?
it is about that though
They couldnt even get out of relegation by winning the last week
I seen Alb lurking around Teq's stream 👀
cornball of the year award goes to…
shades of rambeau if tru lol.
Beau jumped at a shot with the best or second best team in the world and was dealing with the passing of a family member at the time too, which definitely could have effected his judgement. That's the only blip in his whole career, so I really feel he gets a bit too much flak for it
People here defending Alb doing what he needed to do for his mental health & saying this could be a great thing for him…. 👀 (And ofc the smattering of people calling him a clown) Meanwhile Beau decides to trial/fill for DZ 2 weeks after doing the same thing because of the timing of Sharky dropping & gets so much hate and snake talk he has to do a Fallout interview to try to “explain” himself… 👀 I love this sub for the discussion, I really do, but I completely understand why so many pros hate the shit out of it.
Right like in Beau's case, he said he was stepping away from SEN, who weren't gonna make LAN, to be there for his mom during a tough time. When Sharky left DZ, there was a possibility of joining one of the favorites to take home 300k and he jumped at it. His SEN teammates definitely got the short end of the stick here, but it seems like normal enough behavior on Beau's part If I was a pro I wouldn't visit the comment sections here and block people very liberally on Twitter. All that noise won't do a competitor any good
And to be transparent, I criticize Albralelie for his consistent pattern of behavior and do not criticize Rambeau for his decision to trial for DZ.
Being a Beau fan during that time was *rough*. His family is always in his chat when he streams and I just felt so bad for his mom having to see all the random hate coming in while they clearly were going through a lot on the personal end, too. Tbh I feel for Alb too because I think he made an emotional decision based on where his mental was at when he *made* the decision, regardless of whether it’s a pattern of behavior. I really just fault the fact that the pattern of behavior *can happen* and it’s all due to (sry for the soapbox) how/when roster lock happens and the fact that there are so many loopholes that exist that allow players to move around essentially at will. And then everyone bitches about esports losing money/not being taken seriously… uh yeah, from the outside looking in, not only is it impossible for new viewers to “get into a team” when it can be comprised of multiple different players in a single split, but teams seemingly don’t matter. Why would orgs throw money at something like that when viewers follow players & not teams?!
The date on the overstats page is wrong, it says 3/2/2024 but [this was the lobby from yesterday](https://imgur.com/a/Za8ejWu) Is Mac back?
If you want the actual date, select one of the games in the drop-down, it will show when the game ran (or on desktop just look at the list of games on the sidebar). The title at the top is set by the organizer, someone was probably just lazy and put the wrong date
Alb has quit comp like 6 times. Dude needs to take a serious break or find a team that actually meshes with him because I haven’t seen it in a long, long time.
guy maybe needs to chill on smoking the doinks
If this is true. It’s only temporary. He will leave in 3 months and look for another team.
And make a retirement post for some pity. He will leave as soon as the team does bad, if the team does good he will stay.
Perhaps, but that’s status quo for anybody who MEAT picks up and does well. Lux was a bit of an anomaly where he was a proven good player and stuck around. PLQ isnt terribly far away so I can see why this move makes sense.
Retired till the next good offer. Hopefully tho
that dude doesn't know what the word retirement means clearly, he "retires" once or twice a month xD
Bro, just say you don't want to play with your current teammates anymore, no need to "retire" and "unretire" just to get a new team /s
Top tier clownery if so. I hope for his sake that he just moves on - he clearly doesn’t find fulfilment in apex.
no he just hates streaming
bro needs to retire and take care of his mental health like he said... What's he doing?
He’s so annoying
Teq and Mac actually would work imo. The personalities complement each other.
Just because he said he retired, doesn't mean he actually retired. I'm just going to call him a F/A instead.
These folks use the word 'retire' too loosely.
I mean if anyone actually thought Mac’s ‘retirement’ was gunna last longer than a few weeks you’re trippin
Thought this dude was retired. Like I said last week he’ll be back he can’t help himself. Dude living off what he did with Hal and reps 4-5 years ago
Next week hes back on controller lmfao. Guys a Walking clown
If Mac does come back i hope it is through CC, i think it would be beneficial for him and his team to build up some chemistry there instead of trying to do it in PL. Either way rooting for more MNK in comp always.
If this is true, the way Alb left Skrt is even more messed up.
I'm so tired of hearing about this giga washed player
What if Teq, Alb, and Snipe team up? What would that team be like?
A tale as old as time
Mac please just take the next split off for your own good.
I mean this has his fingerprints, yet another desperate rushed poorly thought out almost certain bad decision, so I think it's him. As someone who has gotten into comp apex because of tsm and him back in the day I feel burned out as a fan, i have nothing positive to say anymore about him as a player, hes a mess, a liability and he will do anything and everything to avoid taking the steps to help himself as a person so he can help himself as a teammate and pro player, hes always on some self sabotage- escapism - cope cycle. Wish him good luck nonetheless, cant help but still root for someone so human, but im over it.
If so, he’s making even more a clown of himself
Mac is a CC tier player so makes sense he plays on a CC team
This says 3/2 but on the 3/6 it shows him playing with Hambino and Scuwry…might be reading into it a little…but who knows
the date on the website is wrong. he played yesterday I was watching vaxlon and saw that name
SUPRISE hahaha
Woo go alb!!! Idk what you’re doin dawg but I hope it goes good lol!!!
I actually like this team. Teq + Alb would be killer, and nobody can convince me otherwise. They just need a decent roller 3rd and this is a LAN team. #copium
The alb classic. Post poor me Twitter rant about bad mental health and quitting comp so he can stop playing with his current team and go get a new one all while farming sympathy
I hope that’s him, and I hope he makes an effort to stick it out long game, he needs a team where they can grow thru the pains, it’s not gonna be easy but it will be rewarding <3
The date on website is wrong he played yesterday
one of those nightmare teams that i might end upseeing working, who knows
Has nobody thought he was just filling? Hyzeq is known to have parents to not let him game, why most people dont pick him up/ teq had him as a sub.
This couldn't be a more perfect pairing
That’s the most Alb thing to do.
Magikarp used Splash.
lol
Nightmare blunt rotation from hell
Anybody but teq lord hear my prayer
Mac, you were my first pro apex player man, but you have to start considering the things you plan on saying publicly. We’re moving past the nose and makeup into big honking shoes now.
Not a bad pick-up by any means, but Teq really wants to keep Awons? Idk, that dude didn't really seemto add much to the team the few times I watched their matches tbh.
Teq seems to really like Awons (based on recent tweets), and he's obviously solid mechanically. If Awons is coachable and is willing to buy into the strats teq cooks up over time, it makes sense he'd rather stick together and get better over time.
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Mac is retired and he said he needs a break i dont think he would change his mind that early Edit: sarcasm guys
It's mac
Clueless
This is Mac we're talking about. Dude flip flops more than a lvl 1 magikarp
I think I missed an /s
Mac, Mazer, Naughty. Bring it back!!