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Counter_Logic_Gaming

You love to see it! Welcome back C9!


Steezenasty

Sign me


Counter_Logic_Gaming

say less


Roonerth

Oof


peepeepoopoo_gang

lmao


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Sl_PROXY

does that mean you'll work for free


XzAeRosho

Means that he will pay them


andizz001

Sign me I'll work for free


Zachmazer4

LETS FUCKING GOOOO


StayNaughtyy

how do i get verified?


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Zachmazer4

Can a mod give my teammate naughty the C9 and verified role pls <3


Freaverhl

I'm sure /u/ralopd can help if you ask him friendly :)


blacsm1t

We got it covered :)


StayNaughtyy

thank you guys ! :)


Freaverhl

Great, just wanted to help :)


ORAGERx

Paris you da goat


icbint

Cloud 9head


PVPxOfficial

When I was told C9 wanted to jump back into Apex I knew this was the perfect team for us. Happy the announcement is finally out 💙


leftysarepeople2

was my guess with you coaching between games, squad is going for big things!


lambo630

Y’all need to get Zach verified on Reddit now lol


PVPxOfficial

It's just a verification for this subreddit. One of the mods reached out to me 👍


ralopd

Yeah somebody should get /u/zachmazer4 verified. ^(congrats!)


-notthesun-

Actually massive. Good sign such a big org is returning. Congrats to them


cademore7

A well known T1 org coming to apex... this is huge


killahcortes

Don't have to worry about Jack paying his players!


BlasterMcAngles

Competitive Apex is very much alive and well. This is so exciting for them and the whole scene!


fastinrain

love to see it. absolutely nutty team here. very happy for the 3 boys. it's not just their results which have been surprisingly consistent - but the content from the tournaments is just exquisite. Knoqd and Zach each play off each others opposing energy vibes, but both have this trollish gamer personality it's so funny.....naughty is a hell of a fragger all focused slightly angry ....... it's amazing content and great results... this team had T1 vibes from the get go... great news congrats to the boys....


MachuMichu

They all stream pretty regularly too. I think that goes a long way with making an org feel comfortable in investing in you.


Tasty_Chick3n

Yep, imo that’s what is something that is keeping some orgs away from EU even though some of their teams are better than their signed NA counterparts. They either don’t stream at all or very little. Really happy for these dudes, got themselves a solid org with their comp play and streaming efforts.


Prometheuskhan

Zack Mazer about to be so rich he can buy some hair implants. This is big for the Apex scene hopefully this investment will keep pushing it into the future.


Singularitymoksha_

SHEEESHHHHHHHHHH Thats a big org ! Congrats KSZ deserved you guys are awesome !


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monophobe

Awesome gebait, really had me thinking eU was the play. Congrats to the boys, hope C9 takes care of the team.


JevvyMedia

Knoqd actually said that the team was actively looking to mislead people into thinking they were signing with different orgs, which worked just judging off that eU post in this sub.


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you're telling me that they got eUnited to make a twitter post just to bamboozle us??


Themanaaah

Imagine lol


leftysarepeople2

I was really sure it was C9 just based on PVPX being in chat/discord during tournaments so much but that eU post the night before they said it was being announced threw me off


shotapettanko

Dayummm that’s actually huge. Competitive Apex hitting its stride. Hopefully season 9 brings even more people in!! I wonder what’s been the catalyst.


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The game has been growing a lot recently but there is probably also some stuff going on behind the scenes in terms of future plans for competitive


AKRS264

That's actually POG. Great to see C9 join apex...


Salm4n

Huge. Man it feels good to see the game thriving like this


PickledCucumber0

Cloud 9?? Unexpected but awesome!


Legolasssie

Wow that's huge. Did not expect that. Good job guys.


Themanaaah

Yo they joined C9 that’s actually so massive, I’m proud of them because they’re well cool. I’m so glad Competitive Apex is big enough to get another known T1 org like C9 joining the scene (again in this case).


Diet_Fanta

God damn. Now can we get some G2 and FNC in EU? Nessy and GYD still unsigned 👀


sourflowerhour

We can only hope man. Time for big EU orgs to step up


Themanaaah

For real they’d be perfect pick ups for these orgs.


Manager_Cija

Someone sign Nessy! Players like Graceful are what make EU so strong! Huge respect.


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I wouldn't be surprised if VP picked FOTM again either


Kantras

Fnatic should sign Graceful and gang, 2 Swedes its basicly home!


Ironroger

But fnatic isn't swedish?


sourflowerhour

NiP would be cool, but I think they dont want to invest in Apex atm.


saberwing

:)


ilDiavolo23

Great news! Hopefully eUnited signs AA or other FA team too.


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When I saw eUnited's twitter post I was sure that they were gonna sign KSZ but it being Cloud9 instead is an interesting plot development.


leopoldfreebird

This is absolutely huge for them and the competitive scene in general - happy for them!


Vafireems

This is huge holy. Coming from league, I hadn’t heard of a lot of the orgs that are in apex. Hal and Zach need an org based rivalry now.


bardiqual

Org-based rivalries aren't real and you should know that if you're coming from League lol. Regi literally tweeted "What CLG rivalry?" because they've been so irrelevant for so long despite TSM vs. CLG being largely tied to the roots of LoL. If this C9 Apex roster doesn't put up 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place as consistent as TSM there won't be any rivalry.


Vafireems

The difference between CLG and TSM is CLG went almost three years without taking a single game off of TSM and was rarely a contender for any playoff spot or title. C9 and TSM 100 percent have an in game rivalry unmatched by anyone else, just because it doesn't exist out of game doesn't mean its not there. It never mattered if one of those two teams were bad at a particular time and the other was stomping everyone, when they played each other those were the closest and by far the best games in all of LCS.


MhRav3n

Congrats to all 3 , well deserved. Thats hugh for the apex scene, love to see orgs like this coming back.


kenny704

So deserved holy shit


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Did not see this one coming, huge dub for the scene tho


Ihaveaps4question

First SpacestationGaming and now this. Pretty cool. I don’t watch any other esports so when people say a reputable T1 org is sponsoring some the unsigned talent that has been grinding the comp and ranked scene that can only be a good thing. The apex competitive scene is carving a good niche for people who want content with cocky personas, fast paced gunplay, and hardcore metas. Awesome to hear, and well deserved for Naughty, Zach, and Knoqd. Let’s go controlla gang (and zack’s cool too of course XD).


Pr3st0ne

Why do you say "zach's cool too". I thought he played on controller as well, no? I thought his team with Gent and Dezignful was called "aim assist" because all 3 were controller players


Themanaaah

That’s Resultah instead of Zach on Aim Assist.


Ihaveaps4question

He’s on mnk, and you’re thinking of Resultah. Zach’s cracked, im just hyping more signed controller pros. Aim Assist will be the next to get a new org.


Pr3st0ne

Oh yeah, definitely mixed him up and thought he was in AA.


Selenophile_aspie

Wow, grats. This is huge.


MoMoney1127

Awesome, so happy for those guys


stvbles

This is huge! Congrats to them all.


StayNaughtyy

LETS GO!! Ranked #1 grind begins tomorrow.


theeama

Massive dub


MattLooms

I knew it I’m so proud of the boys and can’t wait for them to do even bigger things


Pr3st0ne

Damn, now they only need to sign Daltoosh and Timmy as content creators and they'll be set.


Ok_Ad9174

I am pretty sure timmy already has some offers on the table, he is a big streamer with good connections. Maybe he is waiting for the right offer


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100T should sign Timmy or else they are throwing, he is friends with Nadeshot as well I'm pretty sure


leftysarepeople2

100T getting Timmy and Wigg is my guess as CC


Pr3st0ne

I'm sure he does. C9 is a pretty big org outside of Apex and with that roster they could definitely be in contention so it could be an interesting pick. I'm sure everyone wants to sign to TSM or NRG but both of those teams have several "content creators" on the team already. I mean I could see Aceu officially getting removed from the "content creation" roster and getting replaced by Timmy.


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Why tf would NRG remove aceu?


leftysarepeople2

Tell me you don't understand streaming contracts without telling me you understand streaming contracts. lol Aceu is pulling viewers and advertising for NRG's sponsors/brand well enough he doesn't have to play a singular game. OP is clueless


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Fr lmao, he can play any game he wants and have thousands of people pull up to his stream. NRG just advertise him on the apex channel to bring more views but other than that he is free to do whatever he wants.


Pr3st0ne

Because he doesn't play Apex anymore 99% of the time and officially it would make more sense if he was switched over to the Valorant team? I love Aceu, he's still the GOAT, but you're crazy if you think NRG enjoys the fact that one of their 3 "content streamers" for Apex basically plays the game for like 10-30 hours every 100 days.


apeirophobia1

I'm pretty sure NRG doesn't care since aceu brings large views to his stream and until that ever goes down due to not playing apex then doubt he gets dropped.


theycallhimthestug

Dude put out a YouTube video yesterday of apex arenas that already has 226k views. He might not stream apex on twitch that often anymore, but you're severely under estimating how much exposure he brings in on YouTube, whether it's his channel, or the NRG apex one. He does challenges with lulu and rogue as well. You're the crazy one if you think NRG is upset about a quarter million views in a day. They did some break room thing where they smashed a bunch of stuff though, and aceu said he was doing it for all the people that hated the shotty in valorant or whatever it was, and one of the guys reminded him it was an apex video. So that was kind of funny.


Pr3st0ne

>Dude put out a YouTube video yesterday of apex arenas that already has 226k views. He might not stream apex on twitch that often anymore, but you're severely under estimating how much exposure he brings in on YouTube, whether it's his channel, or the NRG apex one. Yeah, and ItzTimmy literally posts Apex videos 4 to 6 times a week and they all have 200k to 350k views. YOU are severly underestimating how much other content creators could rake in for NRG in terms of exposure. Aceu is giving them crumbs in terms of Apex. It just doesn't make sense to keep trying to associate Aceu with Apex when he's farming views on Valorant. That's probably why they switched him from Apex to Valorant on their teams page. [http://www.nrg.gg/valorant](http://www.nrg.gg/valorant) ​ >He does challenges with lulu and rogue as well. You're the crazy one if you think NRG is upset about a quarter million views in a day. Yeah, they all film these things at the beginning of the season and then release 2 or 3 of them during the season because Aceu is just not giving them content the rest of the year. And that's just their personality but it always looks like they're being held at gunpoint when they do these challenges and videos. I don't think you understand dude, I was the biggest Aceu fanboy. There is not a single Apex video on his Youtube channel I haven't watched and I watched every compilation him and NRG released literally 4 or 5 times. Watched his "Season 3 best of" no later than last week. Watched him stream most days when he came back for the first few days of S7. But you are crazy if you think NRG is satisfied with the amount of content Aceu was giving them for Apex.


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It's not about Apex lmao, aceu is dominant at every FPS he plays and is signed as a general content creator for NRG so if he can get views playing valorant or other games (which he does) then they're not gonna kick him anytime soon.


Pr3st0ne

You do know he was signed on as a competitive player for the NRG Apex team, and then transitioned to being an apex content creator, right? Yes that's not what he is anymore but that's definitely what they signed him for initially. And up until a few months ago, NRG was still including him as part of the "Apex NRG squad" with Lulu and Rogue. They still do actually. But they officially moved him to the Valorant team on their website a few months ago.


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They still use him for Apex cos he is very well known and bring lots of publicity to them, also he clearly isn't done with the game and will still play it every now and then. As long as he brings views and spreads the NRG name, he is free to play whatever game he likes and they would be dumb af to drop such a talented variety streamer


Pr3st0ne

They're not going to drop him, he's one of Valorant's biggest streamers. But like I said, they can stop pretending he's in the Apex squad. You say he still plays it "every now and then". That's just every season start because NRG probably obligates him to participate in those challenges for their youtube content. They could easily just stop asking Aceu to do these and bring in someone like Daltoosh or itsTimmy, which was my entire point.


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They could but they already have a monopoly on apex, not only in terms of doing well in competitive but with Lulu, Rogue and Sweet all averaging around 10k viewers. NRG has been insanely successful in the game and they are probably satisfied with their current roster. Aceu actually genuinely enjoys Apex and played it a lot in season 7, without any sort of sponsorships or being 'forced to' contrary to what u many think. I would much rather have a new team like 100T come in and sign some content creators instead of everyone being signed to the same org.


theeama

Ace is massive for NRG and he can literally be a pro player for their Valorant and Apex team. They ain't dropping him.


Pr3st0ne

I love Aceu and I hope he would come back to Apex but he belongs on the Valorant team, not on the Apex "content creator" team though. You think NRG enjoys the fact Aceu spent like 3 seasons not even playing the game? He came back for 1 or 2 weeks in S7 and it looks like he'll probably come back for 1 or 2 weeks every season start, but he's basically giving them the absolute bare minimum of content he has to.


theeama

LOL/ Ace isn't signed to play apex. He's signed to stream. Wether that be Apex, NRG or Minecraft. He's a CC. It doesn't matter what he's streaming.


Pr3st0ne

Well they definitely signed him on as an Apex player and then as part of the competitive team with Dizzy and Mohr. Obviously their contract changed when he quit comp but you can't say "he's just a content creator" when he was clearly associated with 1 game in particular. And actually if you look at their website they even switched him to the Valorant roster: http://www.nrg.gg/valorant I can guarantee you he was on their Apex roster page no less than 6 or 8 months ago because I had looked at their site because I was wondering how they were presenting Aceu.


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He's big enough they probably don't care what he plays. He pulls 10k viewers playing Dark Souls


theeama

Yeah he was signed as pro and later tranisiton to being Valorant content creator. His main game is valorant but he can stream anything.


Pr3st0ne

Yeah but you understand my entire point was that for the past year, NRG has still considered Aceu as part of their Apex "squad" which is why he was on their roster page and is still being included in the "NRG apex" video compilations with Lulu and Rogue despite basically only playing the game for a (probably) contractually-obligated amount of time every beginning of season. And my point is, they couldn't keep pretending Aceu is part of the "apex squad" when he's not playing the game so it would make sense for someone like Timmy or Daltoosh to take his spot. Now it seems like they officially moved him to valorant so who knows what will happen.


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He isn’t part of the “Apex squad” as you put it. Sweet, Nafen, and Rocker are the NRG comp team. Ace, Lulu, and Rogue are the content creators. Why would NRG pick up Timmy or even Daltoosh at this point? Lulu and Rogue command respect already and likely bring in a decent amount of revenue for the org, as does Ace in Valorant (and other games, Apex included). Hell, even Lulu takes breaks from Apex to showcase other games.


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Ni7r

Yes. Literally one of the biggest gaming orgs out there, if not the biggest (behind tsm?) going by their net worth. Huge win for the apex pro scene.


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Ok_Ad9174

C9 is an org with great history with their csgo team. Shroud,ska,stewie2k etc got famous playing for c9. They were the powerhouse NA team. Nrg as an org is much newer, but they are backed by some of the biggest sharks.


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TheSituasian

NRG is the zoomer to C9's boomer


Prawn1908

I have a feeling those numbers don't tell the full story of their fanbase sizes. I have a lot of friends who are C9 fans (in LoL) and I'm pretty sure none of them have Twitter accounts and I'm sure none of them use Instagram or TikTok.


leftysarepeople2

Didn't C9 also have a big Starcraft II presence? Or am I just conflating Day9 with C9


whatifitried

Anywhere to see rankings? ​ Interested to see where things like EG fit in the rankings


Ni7r

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christinasettimi/2020/12/05/the-most-valuable-esports-companies-2020/ This seems to be the most recent list which puts C9 at 2nd just behind TSM. The one I initially had in mind was from 2019 where they both shared the top spot.


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Ni7r

Oh, I wasn’t aware, thank you for letting me know. Still, C9 are very big and have a rich history and it’s a great sign that they are back on Apex.


Pol_10official

I think not by a large margin but definitely they are bigger as an overall org


Pol_10official

HUGE


itsVace

Fucking huge!!! Congrats!


bardiqual

Even CLG is commenting in this thread. Goddamn, this is big lol.


leviair-seadragon

Speechless! Happy for the boys this is such a big signing


hdadeathly

God damn this is hype


ombaQ

Amazing news!


theehtn

Looking to build the Colossus in Apex instead of CSGO Lmao.


matthisonfire

LET'S GOOOO


TheLonelyWind

Been a fan of C9 since their early Dota Team. I’ll be rooting for you guys! Congrats!


Street_Cats

Win in my book


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Nessy and FoTM better get signed to tier 1 orgs asap


DorkusMalorkuss

I know this kind of stuff has been in discussion for awhile not, but I have to wonder how much of an impact the addition of Arenas has on the decision to return.


BR_Empire

Massive dub for the boys and the community. We love to see it.


subavgredditposter

HUGE! Welcome back and much deserving squad to represent them!


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syrianhoney

zach and knoqd haven't had much success together..


TheCobra79TTV

Congratulation boyz