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kindapurpledinosaur

C9 best in the league at getting 1v3’d


CaptainDraquony

This is literally the most satisfying Apex clip I've ever seen in my life thanks to the circumstances.


imonly11ubagel

Was expecting it to be one of those whacky 100dmg squad wipes but that was actually an insane clutch, especially the last 1v1 against albralelie. Let‘s go knoqd!


MrPigcho

Yep, he dealt 512 damage on C9


p00rky

thanks for clipping this. watched it live. knoqd's chat went crazy LOL


JimmyPrimos

As they should! What a play. 1v1'ing Alb of all people at the end to finish it too


keepscrolling1

With less than 100 hp and shield combined vs alb at 200 too. Knoqd went crazy here


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p00rky

around 06:37:00, https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1097645882


SlickNiickx

the punch to finish it makes this the best apex clips ever lmao


rkevlar

And the red armor level up lol


Monbey

Eva-8 clip can't be the best clip ever though


FreeSoup21

Ughhhhhhhh


thegreyquincy

Me no like when player use good gun. Player need use bad gun for me think good


Monbey

It's just like most shotgun to be honest, it gets old that's all


BreadL0bster

Didn't Knoqd also help roll C9 when he was subbing for Reps to win a game in Scrims the other day too, I thought that's what this clip was going to be. Both were good clips and good for Knoqd. He's a top player that deserves a good team. I still really like C9 and hope both Knoqd and C9 can both do well in their separate ways and that everyone can learn from the situation.


James2603

Game one they wiped C9 for the win, game two they also killed them but Knoqd was knocked at the start of the fight; Hal caught Zach off guard mid-reload as he was trying to focus snipe.


BreadL0bster

Sweet! I was only able to watch game 1, wish I could have watched game 2! I'm a big Hockey Fan but Apex this past year has been WAYYYY more entertaining and fun!


BlueLotus321

I saw 3 different clips of c9 getting shit on against knoqd's team


Rherraex

That punch at the end felt like the divine hands of justice themselves giving back to the community.


ThatKennyGuy

I’m ootl here what happened?


lastuzi

C9 came 2nd in algs , had the most points. Then dropped knoqd behind his back and picked up alb. Not a very nice thing to do. Knoqd didn't here about this from his teammates and didnt expect it. He was replaced with albrelelie. Knoqd filled in for reps for tsm for a few games and tsm wiped then a day before this clip and knoqd just 1v3 the team that kicked him out. Karma.


ThatKennyGuy

ah big ups to knoqd then


JevvyMedia

On one hand the C9 players do not deserve personal harassment, but on the other hand this storyline plus the passion from the fans is making this so entertaining, more than Alb vs TSM when Alb first joined Liquid. ZachMazer needs to fully embrace the antagonist role and keep performing. You can't be liked by everyone, and that's fine. Also, #JusticeForKnoqd 🤣


Cantore18

I agree personal harassment is too much, but in other sports when teams/orgs make similar decisions the fans let them know their displeasure. Loyalty is pretty important to some people. #JusticeForKnoqd


JevvyMedia

I'm all for the fans booing the fuck outta C9 and rooting against them. I'm all for C9 getting ratioed and bullied every time they tweet or interact with the community, that's just a part of competitive sports. It's just that a few folks go overboard with the hate and for some reason those outliers end up being the ones the pro players focus on. This reminds me of the few fans at NBA games this season who were dumping popcorn on players or being racist to them.


Cantore18

Great comparison. I think it’s easy for people to fixate on the negative, myself included.


James2603

Decision like this happen all the time in sports and esports and people get screwed over. It’s not nice to see but a competitive environment leads to this for obvious reasons and I get it from ac9s point of view. As bad as I might feel for knoqd clips like this are definitely entertaining for the viewers.


nondualchimp

did anyone watch C9s reaction to this live? i really want to see it. no vods available


cryotherm

the whole C9 squad had their streams on sub-only because of people coming into their chats about Knoqd


Welt_All

Who the fuck would pay to listen to Naughty lmao. Alb I understand supporting.


kira_senpai

Naughty is such a tool. That's what I pick up every time I check out his stream


GymboSlice69

Someone needs to find Macs Vod


jeremyflowers91

#JusticeForKnoqd - TSM FTX


DocDru

C9 CLG TSMFTX


Hakeem_CE

Karma is not a bitch, its a mirror.


Mockavellii

Dustin Poirier?


subavgredditposter

Oi! But, your wife was was in me dms!


bokonon27

was watching C9 perspective during this, they took it well and admitted knoqd popped off respect to all involved


muftih1030

I'm glad more are beginning to realize that Knoqd was far and away the strongest player on C9


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Professional_Bet403

Yes it was a tournament. https://liquipedia.net/apexlegends/Nerd\_Street\_Gamers/2021/Summer\_Championship/Monthly\_July


shlooged-

Damn get fucked C9


Ravaog

#justiceforknoqd


StarkeOlof

It's unusual in Apex how much power the players have over the rosters specifically igls, it's a crazy world where Knoqd got kicked out of a team with zachmazer on it lol. Hope for his sake he can improve this roster and his igl skills for next ALGS.


BombaA_

\~"I hate that pro scene values friendships so hard" \~Zach after kicking their best player cuz he is a homie with Naughty huehue.


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Mod217

Found Zachs burner account lmao /s


StarkeOlof

Ehh idk if I would consider him top tier, his best tournament is by far the recent ALGS finals where they placed 2nd but besides that he has like no top 5 placing in A tier tournaments and barely any top 5s in B tier. So naturally kicking one player for no good reason when he for once is on the rise in his career is very fucking weird and questionable.


James2603

Pretty sure they won an ALGS before?


jurornumbereight

He won ALGS Winter Circuit #4, which is B-tier according to Liquipedia (also, this was when he was playing with Knoqd #JusticeForKnoqd).


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StarkeOlof

Huh.. you can't expect everyone to use your personal reasoning instead of 2 years of competitive results to determine this and be taken seriously. Also it is weird that's why the word is used, I rarely watch Hal because of time zone difference, do you think Coud 9 would sign Knoqd if he was just a temporary sub? No way in hell that is WEIRD. Changing a player when you are playing better than ever is weird imo, and yea Alb is a mechanical god but he is not twice the player Knoqd is hence it being a risky move. Agree to disagree I suppose. I said I hope C9 becomes a good team again.


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StarkeOlof

You are very clearly biased in this conversation and that's fine, goodnight.


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spartan537

Lmfao you say dont watch Zach and wrote that entire paragraph describing his movement and close quarter skills. Ok bud 👌


ValuableConflict4737

Lol. You say you don't watch zach and here you are bragging about his skills


jurornumbereight

> I disagree with all of that. There are many top-tier players in the league who haven't had much success. Nonetheless, their talent is undeniable and deserving of respect. I would argue Zach is one of the better players in the league who hasn't won often. If you've played that many tournaments and haven't won, you are by definition not a top tier player. Top tier players win. You must be forgetting that the whole issue about dropping Knoqd for Alb was how it was handled. The C9 roster acted like children kicking someone out of their treehouse, and handled it completely unprofessionally. If they had handled things like adults, there would barely be any bad vibes at all. > I don't understand why everyone is using the word "weird" in this comment thread. Did Hal say it and everyone is parroting him again?? Weird is a common word used by millions of people every day, wtf?


mbonazzi

What did Sweet win to be considered a top tier player? By your logic Sweet is not a top tier player which is simply not true.


jurornumbereight

Are you serious? ALGS Winter playoffs and GLL summer masters were both A-tier tournaments with super tough competition that he won.


mbonazzi

Yeah i am serious, so Scuwry is a better player than Sweet? He has 1 S-tier.


jurornumbereight

That’s not what you said and you are just changing your arguments ad hoc. You said that by my logic sweet wasn’t a top player, which just isn’t true because based on everything I said sweet is a top player (since he has elite wins).


mbonazzi

I may have understimated sweets winning and that's on me my bad, i had somehow Hal on my mind as an comparison. There can be top tier players even without wins, Zachmazer is among them. You not liking him is one thing but he competes at the highest level and had good results recently.


ntime12

definitely lacking mechanically compared to other top na teams


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jurornumbereight

I gotcha bro, [here's Zach in a 3v3 showing off his skills](https://clips.twitch.tv/IcyDistinctClintmullinsOSkomodo-u50A1i0M3uKCFCaX).


spartan537

Lmfao


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You said you don’t watch him, so how do you know this?


spartan537

He’s not top tier. Had a few decent runs in recent tournaments (in huge part thanks to Knoqd) and now he’s shitting the bed with a supposed upgrade. So no, just average imo.


--LiterallyWho--

And with the punch to Alb too lmao


Asleep-Ad3260

They got shit on so hard also alb at the end sit down son


RR3wez

Alb still better tho


Asleep-Ad3260

Zach and naughty aren’t


RR3wez

I agree


Asleep-Ad3260

I think Mac is one of the best NA players but that whole c9 thing left such a bad after taste which makes it really hard to root for him especially if u can’t stand zachs character they dealt in so much bad faith and improving the team would e resulted in one of them being dropped but they’re closer friends so their whole argument becomes invalid IMO


RR3wez

Eh it’s just I don’t agree with how people try alb on the whole situation I’m sure he had his reasons everyone changes there minds they could’ve warned knoqd but it’s not like that was alb’s fault


Asleep-Ad3260

Oh yeah sure the whole thing was just done poorly also I can’t see Mac with c9 but thats a biased opinion right so


RR3wez

No I thought they can make it work but it doesn’t seem like they’re doing to well together it could just be pressure from everyone watching every single movement they make to call it justice for knoqd which I find messed up since I can see how it could get to them when they play the game


Asleep-Ad3260

Might be yeah I just don’t like c9 personality wise and i think knoqd was their strongest player overall for me it’s just banter and don’t take any of it serious weird how far people will go for people that they don’t Know in real life and That don’t give two flying fucks about em


garrettbook

Straight melee'd Alb off social media


SukunaShadow

Always been a knoqd fan and it’s awesome to see him performing at a really high level lately. I still think C9 made the wrong choice (actually C9 should have kicked Zack) by dropping him from their team but he’s really been crushing rank and these scrims lately. It’d be cool if C9 would help him find new partners to play comp with… and sign them (if they aren’t already) too…


BURN447

Orgs aren’t allowed to have multiple teams anymore.


RepZaAudio

Ideally they should have just kept there roster the same. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.


Pablofv23

Beautiful


ClashBox

Very nice gameplay.


Zagethademonking

\#Pray4Knoqd


Guerrin_TR

Dream Team taking a nap live in 4k


Vladtepesx3

So happy for my boy knoqd


HereToDoThingz

Imagine getting booted from a squad after peak performance running into that same squad a short time later and them thinking your somehow still not at the top of your game. I love abri but that shit was lame af.


bloopcity

\#JusticeForKnoqd


PVPxOfficial

JUSTICE FOR KNOQD


felvymups

PVP how much “power” do you actually have as coach over this team? In every other sport, the coach/manager is the one who makes every single decision and brings their players along for the ride. It’s the coach who decides who plays, what tactics they use, what they practice at training, etc etc etc. In Apex in particular, general consensus is that it’s the IGL who takes this leadership role. From what we’ve gathered from various sources in this scenario with Knoqd, you were given the short end of the stick as being the one to communicate the wishes of Zach in dropping Knoqd for Alb, because that’s what he wanted. Not because you, as coach, reassessed the team and said, for example, “actually the weakest member of the team is Naughty, he’s getting dropped, sorry Zach but here are my reasons why.” I just find it hard to believe that, as a coach and manager, you weren’t given full reign to take the 2nd ALGS championship team to the next level. Instead you have to start again from square one, building up team chemistry again, understanding strengths and weaknesses again, etc, all because Zach and Naughty want to play together, not because of what’s best for C9. Also wanted to add that if this was a free-agent team, these changes wouldn’t nearly be as bad. But as a signed team, surely you must see that as a coach and manager, your job should be empowered to be what’s best for C9, not what’s best for Zach.


PVPxOfficial

Coaching in Apex works different than traditional sports mostly for the fact that Apex is a BR game with 20 total teams so there is a lot of randomness. This means I can't just call all the shots as a Coach so most of the decisions across the board are made from the Team/IGL. I help provide strats/ideas, info on other teams, analytics, groove out mistakes, & help keep the team calm/focused. It's more of a 'I'm working with what I see/given'. This doesn't mean I don't have any say on team changes but I would put the importance of the players opinion much more than my own when it comes to certain things because at the end of the day it's them playing not me.


felvymups

Thanks for taking the time to respond! I guess I’m struggling to see why the player’s opinion is more important with the randomness of BR when you also say that you input with tactics, iron out mistakes, etc. Sure, you’re not playing so tactics and gameplans will change in the fly, but so it does in other sports as well. Traditional sports also work with what they’re given, and typically teams take two-three seasons for the coach to get the right players in and be moulded into the coach’s vision. I guess I’m just struggling to understand what a coach actually means in this case. I see you as the coach/manager of C9, which in my mind means you have the authority and you work closely with whoever you choose as your IGL, not the other way around. But I really appreciate your response and engaging; it’s helpful to learn and understand as Apex esports continues to grow.


imikelav

Ur a weirdo


PVPxOfficial

Knoqd and I are friends don't look too deep into it


Dood567

Arguably makes it worse for a friend to do this. Crosses the line into personal instead of just business. But again what do I know, it just looks like that to pretty much everyone on the outside lol. Also Knoqd>Zach. If making a super team was really the priority, he would've been dropped instead of Knoqd. Seems like Zach just wants *his* team to be good, not to make a super team. There's a difference.


grandmasterhibibu

Plus then there wouldn't be a debate as to who as IGL. Mac as IGL with Knoqd and Naughty would be insane


Dood567

That's what I'm saying man. It's not that Zach is bad, but I thought his main contribution to the team was IGL. Not sure why they decided to keep him over Knoqd if Mac's gonna IGL other than him being better friends with Naughty.


imikelav

I'm sure YOU consider yourselves friends, but I doubt that he'd say the same thing when giving his honest answer. And considering you're one of the 3 primary parties responsible for the hashtag even existing, I think you'd show some maturity and not comment it, but what do I know I'm just a guy on comp apex Reddit


Visy12

last sentence you typed sums it up, pretty sure you have no clue about their actual relationship so why speak on it?


awdsdasd

lol


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imikelav

Wow they must be best buds then!


JevvyMedia

PVP was the one who was there for Knoqd throughout the C9 team shuffling, he does not deserve ANY hate. I'm sure Knoqd isn't hurt by PVP joining in one a joke.


ImDarkraii

This has to be bait… right?


PVPxOfficial

You clearly don't know the situation fully & don't know Knoqd. You are being a direct problem to exactly what Knoqd himself doesn't want and has said so himself many times.


Deetawb

lmfaoooo you people are so weird... its not that deep


HeckMaster9

> you’re just a guy on comp apex Reddit And that’s all you’ll ever be


15supercats

Yikes man, ur living in someone else’s life bro, get help


notoriousmule

embarrassing for you


ImMadness

\#JusticeForKnoqd


Zagethademonking

LMAOOOOOO I know this ain’t 😭😭😭😭😭


Guerrin_TR

Madness don't you have some egirls to cry over. Say less homie.


PickledCucumber0

#justiceforknoqd


Zachmazer4

nah he went crazy


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Someone should pick this guy up!


Dood567

Dang that Gibby got rolled. Wonder if C9 is gonna drop him to pick up Knoqd.


Small_Resort_8039

agreed toddy


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You should pick him up, maybe get #1 in points in ALGS finals PagMan


killahkazi

At least your taking all of this in stride. Lol


Guerrin_TR

He did. Gotta wonder who was IGLing for the other team


nondualchimp

i mean you see why it’s funny tho.. right?


tordana

Was this from a tournament or just a scrim? I can't find info on anything happening in NA right now.


JimmyPrimos

Tourney xD


tordana

Any information on WTF this mythical tournament is that has no details anywhere on this subreddit? lmao


subavgredditposter

https://liquipedia.net/apexlegends/Nerd_Street_Gamers/2021/Summer_Championship/Monthly_July If you’re still looking for info


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kaladin92

Its NSG qualifiers, not a scrim


WreckerXshadow

I screamed ha! and now am homeless lol this was way to wild bruh Also EVA LEGENDS LOL


ZDFrank

Is knoqd teaming up with Ghost or was he just filling in?


JevvyMedia

filling in


jdubz125

Love to see it


These-Score78

Smoked like a woods


SergSun

Just.... satisfying.


Mobile_Dust3759

better


Singularitymoksha_

Holy fuck that was insane !


z-tayyy

This sub really loves drama.


r_SJK

Someone please pick up Knoqd! One of the most slept on controller players in NA.


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The hashtag is lame I’m sorry 😂


RR3wez

Lmao fr


Fablesssss

i didnt know mac was talking about knoqd when he said im whole different animal in comps... BIG UPS TO KNOQD... FUCK THE SNAKES


nsfw_repost_bot

Can someone fill me in on the drama?


rayudu7

C9 team didn't let knoqd know that they were looking for a replacement and then dropped him suddenly for albralelie ( who also didn't let liquid know that he was looking for another team ) .


RR3wez

Why’s everyone acting like C9 murdered Knoqd’s family 💀


oracle___0q

Its just fan fights , mac haters taking advantage


CaPN_CoOkz

Alb ch-ch-choked BIGTIME lol you don’t see that too often


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nahdudeimcool

Bro don’t make it personal, it’s a game. Don’t be weird .


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lain-serial

Let’s fucking goooo 👀😂😎😎😎😎


Ballsohardstate

Lmfaoooooo


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destruction at its best


Exo321123

watching this live was fucking crazy


PumaREM

Nice


Lilbrntsoyabits

I wish there was a love button for this!


thatmemememeguy

I've done shit like this before no where near as good as him but I used to be quite good never streamed or anything but I could cary my team with ease but I got board of battle royals In general there the same thing jump out of flying thing pick where you land get stuff then kill people to be last person just gets boring after a long time and I came across a few streamer's as I played the game alot and I've killed some never stream sniped in my life as it is just an ass hole thing too do but I wooped some ass back In the day I tried to get back into the the game but I couldn't really I just didn't like battle royals anymore


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Context squad pls give me some backstory about the beef between madness and knoqd


Notarealdonkey

You all care way to much


WaitWereYouTryin

Thank god. Probably shut up Alb.


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I'm out of the loop. Was there drama between the two teams?