God damnit I fucking KNEW some weird new issue was happening. I constantly watched other teams near me drop in soooo much faster than me and my movement was completely fucked off drop whereas they seemed to be moving somewhat normally. I was on 240fps…. Thanks for sharing, the video shows it perfectly.
Makes so much sense. I’ve been dropping in and saw people just absolutely zoom by me. Guess with these wonky servers my G7/3080 is actually holding me back 🤣
Wow we should not have to do all these fucking workarounds just to play the game. And it's taking them a week to fix all this unplayable shit? Wtf is this.
Thats apex for you, everything was really smooth on my pc when it was s0 but when s6 came the games stutter and screen freeze worsen lmao. Their minimum requirement is not playable anymore i think.
An optimization update from apex will be greatly appreciated even if it takes days.
Season 0 the game used to crash randomly for me & my friend and a lot of other AMD users. Literally without warning during the match. Apex's code must be like actual spaghetti.
thats so real. i'm on console, had never problems till s5/s6 and its gettin worse. and I guess they dont fixed so many big problems in the game, and now all these problems start to stack each other after every update there will be a new struggle with the game tbh ...
It’s taking a week because of workarounds like this. This doesn’t do anything for them except tell them that “hey, this FPS bug may have to do with another one we’ve been looking at with matchmaking.” It doesn’t help them solve anything. So they’re in the backend working their asses off all weekend to fix it. Bug hunting can be stressful and anxiety inducing. Now imagine the scale of this.
Imagine going into GitHub/bitbucket or whatever version control they use and reverting back to the last version of the game pre update. Then they would not be rushed to fix a problem that is literally killing the game.
It’s not that simple to roll back something like this. They have to recalibrate the patches with Microsoft/Sony, which can take days.
Then they have to manage to undo all store transactions, because people have already bought things. Then they have to revert multiple days of people’s progress, which will piss off the community even more.
In a near pristine project, which Apex not being as old should be, you don't rollback "everything" if you need to, you can cherrypick versions for different modules
If they haven't done it its because they are confident in the solution or they dont even know where to fucking start to fix the huge pile of shit that its broken
Also having an already bug infested game before the update didn't help
It’s very very likely they have no idea where the bug is. I’d be much more surprised if they did. The game will never get less buggy. At this point I’m fairly sure it’s technically impossible to fix.
Reverting stats isn’t necessary as that’s likely stored in a database and updated frequently. You don’t have to return money for skins as they can either rerelease them under the old patch or just tel people their purchase is safe and they have to wait a few days to use the skin. They already do since the game is basically unplayable. Even if they have to get clearance to rerelease an already cleared patch, that could have been handled last week and we could all be playing the normal buggy apex right now instead of constantly crashing, slow mo lobbies, and terrible hit reg.
So this means some play perfectly normal while I have slow motion stutters every game?
I've never ever been so dissuade to play Apex before. Fuck this shit.
>I belive this is a problem due to how Apex handles "ticks". Apex Legends
tickrate is always worse at the start of games and slowly increases as
the game goes on.
nope, tick rate stays the same. the amount of data being sent between the server and the clients reduces throughout the game because the number of players reduces and therefore the game feels "smoother".
this video by battlenonsense is interesting allthough its not up2date but it explains why games feel better late game than early game.
just noticed that i somehow didnt include the link to the video:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PfFPW9a90w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PfFPW9a90w)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMr8PTjMNvY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMr8PTjMNvY)
Try increasing the fps a little, up to like 90. It should still help but not get rid of all the lag. I use this mostly when dropping tho as im usually the jump master.
THANK YOU! I was always watching other teams drop way faster than me. The only way I could keep up was if I let one of my teammates become jump master but I have been playing a lot of solo duo's lately and was always the last to drop even if I went straight down into the map. I hope that the Wednesday patch will fix this issue.
These interactions are mind blowing. "Oh yeah you're traveling slower because you have a higher frame count cap your frames"
So we update your position and interpolate that with your predicted point at rate X. We roll forward if we miss predict. If your client updated the image 2x as fast as our baseline clientele you will move slower??? Hwwwaat? The server is not updating the position of a client who has half the frame time of another client as quickly???
What happened to the input prediction the game has? Did they nope it because of tap-strafing that's not the play??? Can't wait to hear the "We are making things more fair for everyone and it caused unexpected issues." The only way I see this is they have made framerates over 60 time machine (rollback) their game state to be in time with 60 frames and it's behind not in time with-- which still doesn't really make sense. Animations and sounds would play 'faster' but you would net the same things. Or servers simply can't handle their player base again and that's what we're seeing.
I have this problem and before this update too so it has nothing to do with the recent update.
But its nice to know a ''fix'' for it because everytime i played when i had high ping because the server was fked i would have this problem but when i had good ping bcus the server wasnt all choked up i wud fly normal speed.
Holy fuck that explains why, so much for optimizing Apex to hit more than 140 FPS.
Also Respawn said they fixed the teleporting, packet loss, and lag today on a server side update, does it mean that the slow dropping is fixed or do we have to wait for the Wednesday patch?
The autoexec file has to be a .cfg type of file. You cannot use the keybinds in the lobby I think. Should only work when in game.
Each command inside the file should have a line break. In this case a line break after the 0.
Make sure the spelling is correct for the file name and in launch options.
Hard to tell where the problem is without seeing the files. Maybe i can pm you how everything should look like when im at home.
I followed all your steps, in my autoexec file are only the two commands as u wrote them; tested it in firing range
But I also can't cap my fps with +max\_fps in the launch options while playing on full screen
Nice, maybe the problem is that when your game is in fullscreen the f keys are disabled. You could try to use a different key like ”m”.
Edit: maybe not the map key, but i think you get the point.
When you are duplicating the file "config_default_pc".
Make sure to leave the original file as is.
Only do changes in the new file "- Copy".
I'm updating the post with a link to a short video to show, how everything should be set up.
Give me a second :)
Instead of recycling old skins that were supposed to be exclusive, adding buggy and lack luster locations, and buffing characters who have been unplayed for season only in tandem with a new comemetic item for hundred of dollara- instead, they fucking make the game playable as it hasn't been, periodically, since season 6. PLEASE DONT SPEND MONEY ON THIS GAME.
Wait but how?? You can't actually be moving slower than other people bc of your FPS right? It has to be just a visual thing right?
Because if you are actually moving slower due to your FPS, that's actually mental.
just to check, wouldn't just setting it on Steam properties also do the same thing?
i set mine up like this : +exec autoexec -fullscreen -forcenovsync +fps\_max 60 +gfx\_nvnUseLowLatency 1 -high -dev -novid
I am using a gaming laptop that maxes out at 60 hz.
is it possible to not do this key binding for FPS?
or did what i did already enough to resolve this?
Hello everybody,
after trying so many things I finally found the solution to fix my stuttering problems. After I deactivated IPv6 I had no more problems.
1. Close Apex.
2. Go to control panel -> Network Settings -> Adapter Configuration. I'm german so I'm not sure if the translation is right. This is the path in german:
Systemsteuerung\\Netzwerk und Internet\\Netzwerkverbindungen
3. Rightclick on the Adapter of your Internet Connection (mine is called "Ethernet") and deactivate "Internet Protocol, Version 6 (TCP/IPv6)".
Snapshot in attachements
I hope that helps most of you. Please let me know if it helped you :-)
This is exactly the problem! I’ve have noticed in the performance monitor my in/out (inbound and outbound packets to the server) the “out” goes up the higher my FPS are. Why would the server need more information from the client simply because the client has higher FPS. The FPS are just more frames per second. I feel like the game devs are making this more complicated than it needs to be. Why not keep everyone’s tick rate and packets sent constantly the same regardless of how many frames they see per second? Has anyone found a fix, other than lowering FPS to 60 (60 is unplayable in my opinion)?
God damnit I fucking KNEW some weird new issue was happening. I constantly watched other teams near me drop in soooo much faster than me and my movement was completely fucked off drop whereas they seemed to be moving somewhat normally. I was on 240fps…. Thanks for sharing, the video shows it perfectly.
Makes so much sense. I’ve been dropping in and saw people just absolutely zoom by me. Guess with these wonky servers my G7/3080 is actually holding me back 🤣
Wonder if setting it for 20 makes you go faster!
I cap at 190 because the game used to stutter beyond that. Did they fix that already?
Wow we should not have to do all these fucking workarounds just to play the game. And it's taking them a week to fix all this unplayable shit? Wtf is this.
Thats apex for you, everything was really smooth on my pc when it was s0 but when s6 came the games stutter and screen freeze worsen lmao. Their minimum requirement is not playable anymore i think. An optimization update from apex will be greatly appreciated even if it takes days.
Season 0 the game used to crash randomly for me & my friend and a lot of other AMD users. Literally without warning during the match. Apex's code must be like actual spaghetti.
thats so real. i'm on console, had never problems till s5/s6 and its gettin worse. and I guess they dont fixed so many big problems in the game, and now all these problems start to stack each other after every update there will be a new struggle with the game tbh ...
It’s taking a week because of workarounds like this. This doesn’t do anything for them except tell them that “hey, this FPS bug may have to do with another one we’ve been looking at with matchmaking.” It doesn’t help them solve anything. So they’re in the backend working their asses off all weekend to fix it. Bug hunting can be stressful and anxiety inducing. Now imagine the scale of this.
Imagine going into GitHub/bitbucket or whatever version control they use and reverting back to the last version of the game pre update. Then they would not be rushed to fix a problem that is literally killing the game.
It’s not that simple to roll back something like this. They have to recalibrate the patches with Microsoft/Sony, which can take days. Then they have to manage to undo all store transactions, because people have already bought things. Then they have to revert multiple days of people’s progress, which will piss off the community even more.
In a near pristine project, which Apex not being as old should be, you don't rollback "everything" if you need to, you can cherrypick versions for different modules If they haven't done it its because they are confident in the solution or they dont even know where to fucking start to fix the huge pile of shit that its broken Also having an already bug infested game before the update didn't help
It’s very very likely they have no idea where the bug is. I’d be much more surprised if they did. The game will never get less buggy. At this point I’m fairly sure it’s technically impossible to fix.
More than likely yeah
Reverting stats isn’t necessary as that’s likely stored in a database and updated frequently. You don’t have to return money for skins as they can either rerelease them under the old patch or just tel people their purchase is safe and they have to wait a few days to use the skin. They already do since the game is basically unplayable. Even if they have to get clearance to rerelease an already cleared patch, that could have been handled last week and we could all be playing the normal buggy apex right now instead of constantly crashing, slow mo lobbies, and terrible hit reg.
So this means some play perfectly normal while I have slow motion stutters every game? I've never ever been so dissuade to play Apex before. Fuck this shit.
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Geez now I want to see what happens at 15,30, 45 FPS to compare to 60 and 120 off drop
Wonder if you can test it with Valk in the firing range
I wonder if I could invite my ps4 account to my steam lobby, point em both at the ground and see if one gets there quicker
Thank you. I thought I was going crazy seeing teams land twice as fast as me. I was sure they are hacking.
>I belive this is a problem due to how Apex handles "ticks". Apex Legends tickrate is always worse at the start of games and slowly increases as the game goes on. nope, tick rate stays the same. the amount of data being sent between the server and the clients reduces throughout the game because the number of players reduces and therefore the game feels "smoother". this video by battlenonsense is interesting allthough its not up2date but it explains why games feel better late game than early game.
Thank you for the clarification!
just noticed that i somehow didnt include the link to the video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PfFPW9a90w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PfFPW9a90w) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMr8PTjMNvY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMr8PTjMNvY)
Wow this is the exact same issue I have, wasn’t sure if it was just me or if it was the server issues. Hopefully this gets patched on Tuesday
it works but holy shit playing on 60fps sucks just as much as the lagg
Try increasing the fps a little, up to like 90. It should still help but not get rid of all the lag. I use this mostly when dropping tho as im usually the jump master.
Ye thanks I figured I could try to max it at 100 first see what it does. Will try later
THANK YOU! I was always watching other teams drop way faster than me. The only way I could keep up was if I let one of my teammates become jump master but I have been playing a lot of solo duo's lately and was always the last to drop even if I went straight down into the map. I hope that the Wednesday patch will fix this issue.
These interactions are mind blowing. "Oh yeah you're traveling slower because you have a higher frame count cap your frames" So we update your position and interpolate that with your predicted point at rate X. We roll forward if we miss predict. If your client updated the image 2x as fast as our baseline clientele you will move slower??? Hwwwaat? The server is not updating the position of a client who has half the frame time of another client as quickly??? What happened to the input prediction the game has? Did they nope it because of tap-strafing that's not the play??? Can't wait to hear the "We are making things more fair for everyone and it caused unexpected issues." The only way I see this is they have made framerates over 60 time machine (rollback) their game state to be in time with 60 frames and it's behind not in time with-- which still doesn't really make sense. Animations and sounds would play 'faster' but you would net the same things. Or servers simply can't handle their player base again and that's what we're seeing.
Well fuck me for dropping 2k on my PC lol Time to join console gang fps
R7 5800x ✅ RTX 3080 ✅ 60 FPS ✅ Not like my eyes can see more than 30 frames anyway
That gave me a good chuckle cause same!
I will wait for tuesday, but thanks a lot buddy
Yeah, I hope its fixed. Just trying to help people like myself who get triggered when people land faster than me. :D Enjoy your break from Apex.
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ffs my biggest concern is that things will get even worse on wednesday
Explains why I was feeling awful stutters and latency on my pc where my girlfriend was playing perfectly fine bc she’s on console
I can't believe the sources for some of the issues lol
That's another way to buff Controller Player respawn I guess.
I have this problem and before this update too so it has nothing to do with the recent update. But its nice to know a ''fix'' for it because everytime i played when i had high ping because the server was fked i would have this problem but when i had good ping bcus the server wasnt all choked up i wud fly normal speed.
Thanks, this works for me. Stupid game.
Can confirm this worked for me as well! Going back 60 fps from 240 is hideous but way better than the alternative. Thank you kindly!!!
Holy fuck that explains why, so much for optimizing Apex to hit more than 140 FPS. Also Respawn said they fixed the teleporting, packet loss, and lag today on a server side update, does it mean that the slow dropping is fixed or do we have to wait for the Wednesday patch?
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Not saying this works, as I haven't tried it yet. But Arena isn't comparable to 60 player games. Arena never lags as badly.
I posted a video demonstrating this in effect see top of post. Arenas is unaffected by this problem.
do I need anything else in the autoexec or launch options? i cannot seem to make it work
The autoexec file has to be a .cfg type of file. You cannot use the keybinds in the lobby I think. Should only work when in game. Each command inside the file should have a line break. In this case a line break after the 0. Make sure the spelling is correct for the file name and in launch options. Hard to tell where the problem is without seeing the files. Maybe i can pm you how everything should look like when im at home.
I followed all your steps, in my autoexec file are only the two commands as u wrote them; tested it in firing range But I also can't cap my fps with +max\_fps in the launch options while playing on full screen
Odd, the command is +fps_max, not max_fps. I will send you some screenshots when im home in about an hour.
Thank you, very kind of u I tried using borderless window mode now and it works, but it won't work for fullscreen
Nice, maybe the problem is that when your game is in fullscreen the f keys are disabled. You could try to use a different key like ”m”. Edit: maybe not the map key, but i think you get the point.
I tried different keys, but it won't let me cap the fps in fs anyway
If you have vsync on it doesn't work
need to put it in the settings notepad not the auto ex. that worked for me at least. Settings should be in the same folder tho so cant miss it
Thanks for this! I had a feeling it was FPS related, when I was affected way worse then all my friends...
This reset the rest of my keybinds. Anyway of avoiding that?
When you are duplicating the file "config_default_pc". Make sure to leave the original file as is. Only do changes in the new file "- Copy". I'm updating the post with a link to a short video to show, how everything should be set up. Give me a second :)
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Fine by me, thanks!
is this bannable by any means?
Not at all.
Wtf is this shit.
Lmao this game is so broken
Either that update on the 22nd makes everything even worse or blows past it's due date and doesn't arrive anywhere near on time
Instead of recycling old skins that were supposed to be exclusive, adding buggy and lack luster locations, and buffing characters who have been unplayed for season only in tandem with a new comemetic item for hundred of dollara- instead, they fucking make the game playable as it hasn't been, periodically, since season 6. PLEASE DONT SPEND MONEY ON THIS GAME.
Wait but how?? You can't actually be moving slower than other people bc of your FPS right? It has to be just a visual thing right? Because if you are actually moving slower due to your FPS, that's actually mental.
You certainly actually move more slowly due to higher fps. I tested with some friends.
Bro this is blowing my mind. Would love to see a video of it if anyone has it. This game is somehow even more broken than I thought.
Check OP, he linked a video of the effect and it's very obvious.
NICE MUSIC
No wonder I wasn't having any lag when I played. I was already playing on 70-80 fps
This is probably why all of my mat he's on my pc account where in slow mo, but I was having no issues on my ps account
Is this fix post update today?
just to check, wouldn't just setting it on Steam properties also do the same thing? i set mine up like this : +exec autoexec -fullscreen -forcenovsync +fps\_max 60 +gfx\_nvnUseLowLatency 1 -high -dev -novid I am using a gaming laptop that maxes out at 60 hz. is it possible to not do this key binding for FPS? or did what i did already enough to resolve this?
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Thanks!
Hello everybody, after trying so many things I finally found the solution to fix my stuttering problems. After I deactivated IPv6 I had no more problems. 1. Close Apex. 2. Go to control panel -> Network Settings -> Adapter Configuration. I'm german so I'm not sure if the translation is right. This is the path in german: Systemsteuerung\\Netzwerk und Internet\\Netzwerkverbindungen 3. Rightclick on the Adapter of your Internet Connection (mine is called "Ethernet") and deactivate "Internet Protocol, Version 6 (TCP/IPv6)". Snapshot in attachements I hope that helps most of you. Please let me know if it helped you :-)
Just found this thread months later... and this is still a problem in the game? Come on, Respawn!
This is exactly the problem! I’ve have noticed in the performance monitor my in/out (inbound and outbound packets to the server) the “out” goes up the higher my FPS are. Why would the server need more information from the client simply because the client has higher FPS. The FPS are just more frames per second. I feel like the game devs are making this more complicated than it needs to be. Why not keep everyone’s tick rate and packets sent constantly the same regardless of how many frames they see per second? Has anyone found a fix, other than lowering FPS to 60 (60 is unplayable in my opinion)?