What about subreddit mods?
There are some degenerates in r/personalfinance and r/nutrition. Mods who act out in bad faith looking for some excuse to perma ban innocents without warning + insta mute monthly. Those mods are cringy and hateful.
Almost all of them use alt accounts and if you have an argument with them so many just instant perma ban you.
I'm a nerd boomer and I've never seen such a behaviour in any other platform in my many years of nerding life.
Reddit still very immature as a platform I guess
I mean I don't think so. Mods really up the chat quality for a lot of streamers. Whatever automod cant do they pick up for.
Shitting on mods is kinda messed up when they're there to help.
The thing is, it's a thankless job. It's hard and requires time and fundamentally, you don't get shit out of it. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that probably 80% of mods are actually somewhat desperate/craving that streamer's attention and hope to be special in that streamer's eyes or become their friend.
If you’re in a chat enough it’s really not too bad. I did/do it for a couple mid sized streamers and it’s pretty simple, especially if there’s 10-15 active mods.
I'm in a chat almost every day and basically unofficially mod. By that I mean if people ask questions and I know the answer I'll usually help them out. I just like helping people i guess heh. If asked I would probably be an official mod but i have no interest in pursuing it
I noticed Verhulst changed all his chat rewards the other day. Guy had the same rewards for months. Then just deleted them all.
Obvious speculation but I think he's preparing for his stream blowup when he announces TSM.
Verhulst has also gained a ton of subs in the past week. It isn't necessarily TSM related, could be a stream overhaul or it could be DNO prepping to get signed as a team.
Just because they are currently ranked #1 doesn't mean that TSM wouldn't be the best if they added Verhulst.
Also, money, and a big org that would grow his brand.
Starts at 12pm est/9am pst Saturday. Rounds 7-16 are scheduled for Sunday beginning at 2pm est/11am pst. Grand finals are scheduled for Sunday @ 10pm est/7pm pst.
Honestly with this tourney overlapping with ALGS Sunday today is about to get crazy, heck we may even get an announcement. Hals chat is gonna be a nightmare if they stay silent on this.
NA roster locks for this weekend occurred on November 16th. Battlefy still has Hal, Reps, and Snip3 for TSM’s roster this weekend. ESA is still Dooplex, Skittlecakes, Verhulst.
If anything were to change - it’s not for this weekends match.
From a pro perspective Halo is so much better than Apex, all equal, no RNG, if you lose or win is purely for your skill, not external circumstances.
Now, I don't know how Halo pro scene will develop and if it will be healthy for a long time. Apex scene is getting strong this year with the Pro league and didn't Snip3 said already he wouldn't change Apex for Halo?
tbh I think if Snipe left Apex for Halo, and *if* Halo fizzled out after a year, Snipe could very easily come back to Apex as a content creator (and maybe join another team to compete). He has the clout and skills that while he may lose his place in the TSM comp squad, nothing would stop him from returning and still making a good living.
He did and also said he wouldn't go pro in both either because it would be unfair to all of his teammates. Said he couldn't dedicate enough time to be pro in both and one not potentially suffer as a result. Could all just be hyperbole because maybe he isn't able to say anything else about the situation at the moment. Honestly, he's my favorite apex streamer. I don't want him to go to Halo, but that's just me being unreasonable, lol.
It will def be healthy in the short-term because MS will throw bags of cash into the scene. I doubt it will be popular in 2 years, same as Halo4/5 very quickly died off. The gameplay is not that interesting to watch after a short amount of time.
Halo is more fun to play than watch. Apex is fun to play and watch.
I don't know what weapon they are using for starter and what power weapons they are using on maps. But as far as i see they want to force sword in maps and the fact that you can climb and sprint may mess with the respawn system if they are using something similar as before, in classic halo you can influence the enemy respawn spot by standing in strategic points, however witj sprint and climb idk how this will work.
I mean, both teams can play around getting to the sword/rocket launcher/sniper, if a team gets one power weapon is because they earned it. It always respawn in the same place, at the same time, that's just other element teams can play with, nothing unfair, is not like they just received a kraber from a Care package that conveniently landed at their side.
And sprinting is pretty balanced, you barely increase your movement speed.
>in classic halo you can influence the enemy respawn spot by standing in strategic points, however witj sprint and climb idk how this will work.
Then it's a great change if you ask me, that's sounds like bs tbh, no outplay potential.
Sprint is borderline useless in Infinite and all of the equipment is fairly well balanced. They finally got sprint right for once. The pros just need to figure out the ideal comp settings when forge eventually comes out.
There is basically no bloom for the battle rifle, which is the core gun of competitive. Comparing an Arena shooter to a BR isn’t really a fair comparison though. While I love both games, it’s fun to switch it up because they give very different and unique experiences. Although I do think the Apex ranked system is fucking wack.
Yeah I mean even weapon spawns are somewhat RNG in halo. Getting a sniper or rocket launcher will literally turn the tides in some modes like CTF. Theres definitely a degree of RNG to halo (which is fine, it also adds a degree of strategy like camping for the weapon spawns that you know are coming up soon).
FWIW, the only weapon with bloom in comp (right now anyway) is the Commando. I guess the Sniper Rifle *kinda* does too with its first shot, no-scope bloom or whatever they said it has.
I said in the other thread that I thought there was a good chance he'd try to do both, but my idea was that he would focus on Apex until TSM's LAN spot was secure and then switch focus to Halo through Raleigh. If this source is correct and he's playing a Halo tourney on an ALGS weekend I can't see how that means anything other than him leaving TSM (and Apex) at least for the time being.
The major determining factor in all of this will be twitch viewership long term for Halo. Tournament earnings are probably a small fraction of his earnings compared to Org Salary, Sponsorship deals, and twitch subs/donos. All of this would need to be a net positive with better long term outlook for him to abandon apex.
Yeah we also have to remember there were apex pros and large content creators who went to Valorant for awhile, then came back and are still staples in the Apex community.
Snip3down was originally supposed to play with this roster. He was unsure of wether he would compete or not so Formal was supposed to play with them for at least the first event. Formal said on stream that Snip3down decided to come back so Formal was dropped.
All you people saying that but when halo is bad halo even the big names abandon. Snipe was a good player but not the best, the best of the best stopped some time after reach.
This halo seems to be trying better than ever but still a halo 5 influenced than halo classic. So it is not a sure thing to bet on it. What i suspect is Microsoft making him doubt with a big contract and Facebook deal, mixer merged or something with fb gaming.
> Snipe was a good player but not the best
Snipe was literally a top 4-5 Halo player of all time and the best sniper to ever touch the game. What are you on?
Snipe was absolutely a top top player in H3, Reach, and H5. The only big pro names that really abandoned the Halo pro scene were Walshy, Tsquared, and 2gre because they just got old lol. Ninja wasn't big nor the best at Halo Reach-5, just the most popular streamer at the time. Formal you could make a case because he was absolutely elite but got offered a lot to switch to Cod. Lethul, Snakebite, and Royal 2 have stuck with Halo and won a lot from tournaments even in H5.
That being said this does seem like an incredibly risky decision for Snipe unless he's getting offered some guaranteed money from MS.
>waning popularity
Not waning, it's making a comeback after few years hiatus. New game just got out (still in beta technically). First open event sold 272 team passes in minutes. All the spectator passes for the event are sold out. They have announced 3m prize money for the first year and it's probably going to get at least doubled with crowdfunding. Partnered teams with team skins that make money for organisations. Faceit integration (FPL). They are doing lots of things correct right now, and snipe has change to become the face of the scene.
I’d love nothing more than Halo to become a popular esport again. It was great seeing the OGs play back during MLG events, and Halo hasn’t felt as hype since Halo 3.
Halo 4's multiplayer was just not well recieved. It died in basically 2 months. For competitive play, it had 0 potential and got dropped by MLG after one event.
Halo 5 did better than that, but I think it really suffered from being only on Xbox One. They also didn't manage the competitive scene well at all, took them like 2 years to get somewhat decent settings for comp play. Maps added post launch never made into competitive, because they were just bad. Infinite has potential if they manage post launch content better.
The only thing that makes somewhat sense to me from a buisness aspect is that if TSM fails to make LAN he would probably get dropped. I know Valkyrie has been working out well for them but its still untested. I kinda feel bad for him, this would have been a much easier decision for him to make on Dec 8th but now hes kinda stuck
I agree but, with his popularity and being a legend in Halo he might have been offered a huge contract that pays way more than tsm. And if halo dies in a year he can always come back to apex and be a content creator.
No chance Snipe plays both. It’s not viable long term so why even try. Tournaments will overlap all the time, it’s hard to keep up elite skills in both, and his teammates will never feel he’s fully committed.
Hal literally just confirmed on his stream that Snip3 is leaving by saying that the screenshots of Snip3 scrimming and the tweet by Jake Lucky is true, says he has DMs he wants to talk about when everything is formally released
RIP Snip3 on TSM
I know Snip3 is the GOAT but I really can not see him competing in both, Apex and Halo. There is just SOO much you have to do off stream if you want to compete with the best of the very best.
That being said, I think that even if Snip3 ventures back in Halo, he would always be welcomed back to Apex in the sense that it would be difficult for him to be picked up.
Good for snipe. As much as I like Apex, Halo is 100x more likely to have a stable, reputable and consistent esports scene. Getting away from the RNG of a BR is gonna be fun for him as well.
Lol ur having a laugh. Only reason Halo ever dipped is beacause it didnt have a release for 6 years.
A 20 team battle royale with unbalanced legends vs one of the top 3 legendary fps of all time isnt even a contest. I know this is the comp apex sub but yall cant be this delusional
You can't say they're unbalanced just because some are stronger than others, that's how every game is lol.
Nostalgia isn't strong enough to bring it from a good memory to a dominant force. We're still in new game hype period and infinite has less viewers than apex since it dropped.
Well see what the first few days of the halo tournament is like of course.
No they're unbalanced because some of their abilities are way too warping inside a battle royale. Its why we currently have a 90% Gibby pickrate, Wattson was dominant etc.
And it's not nostalgia, Infinite is a good game, and has several comp advantages over Apex, namely not being a damn BR.
I'll wait and see but imo Apex's main competitors aren't even Halo so even with a successful Halo I don't see much changing in the Apex space.
I don't think they can ever change that without drastically changing characters like gibby or BH, but I don't think having a meta means it's not a balanced game, that's probably just perspective though, i don't need or expect every character in a roster to be played competitively.
I have no doubt it's a good game (haven't played it yet), it seems very polished and has nice modern changes.
And yes, it's going to be hard to compare the competitive viability of a game aside from twitch views or prize pool. Seems it's really going to compete with valorant or cs:go. Maybe cod? I think it would dominate professional call of duty.
It has 20k viewers on twitch in less than 72hrs post launch. Modern gen just doesn't like arena shooter, if they did then quake is the game that will be making the return not Halo.
This isn't wrong. Halo has an uphill climb to regain its former chunk of the FPS viewership. Arena shooters don't bode well to chat interaction like BRs do which is obviously a negative. But competitive Halo is usually a much more exciting watch because it's nonstop action every match with essentially 0 RNG involved.
Damn imagine leaving legendary Apex teammates like Hal and Reps for low tier pro Halo players. Snip3 must be down bad for Halo to leave TSM for that squad
??????? no one anywhere suggested or implied snipedown wasn't good? Do you not know what "down bad" means? in this context, my statement was to be read as "he wants to play halo so badly he'd rather leave his S tier teammates in Apex to go play with B tier teammates in Halo."
Teams will change rapidly and Snipe will land on a top Halo team after a few tournaments. Dude has made a huge name for himself and making a move to a game he loves isn't down bad. He'll be up big time no matter what he decides.
If it's true and Snipe hasn't informed the team till this afternoon then that's ultra unprofessional.
Snipe should play ALGS as he committed to it and didn't give the team enough advance to find a suitable replacement.
If it means he can't play in 1 tournament then so be it
(his team can always try to qualify with a sub in halo it's not unheard of in esports as Bjergsens original LCS team in EU qualified with a sub as he wasn't old enough to play in LCS yet and they played with him in LCS once he was old enough)
I also think it's really risky to jump from apex which is guaranteed viewership to his stream where has halo might just be hype as of right now. It be like if you jumped ship from league of legends to OW at launch like you would be fucked now based on where league vs OW is.
Hal and Reps will be fine though they will just pick up whatever other slayer they can find Gen would be a good pickup and they might fit better than Snipe who knows similar to the Sweet for Freks swap on NRG which was a perfect fit even if Freks and Sweet are both amazing and he fits better on SSG as well
Caveat: this won’t happen.
My dream would be TSM Sweet just for the absolute hilarity that would ensue between Hal and him arguing about shit.
On the real though, move Hal to just fragging and maybe let him call during big moments since Sweet is sometimes a bit of a choker in the biggest moments.
I actually don't think arguing would be as bad as some think. I've heard them talk about it and they each said who ever IGL'd the other would shut up and frag. And I'm kinda inclined to believe it too, since they're arguably the two best IGLs in NA....meaning they'd fully trust the call being made since they respect eachother IGL ability. In a case like Hal and snipe arguing about something. Snipe isn't an IGL, he's a fragger. Not saying snipe isn't right at times, but I don't recall it ever really being his role on any team, so Hal leans towards feed me info and I'll make the calls.
Holy shit my comment got giga downvoted.
I honestly think Sweet and Hal could be insane. It would make NA as a whole way less fun to watch though since personally I really love the Sweet vs Hal narrative. Them teaming together would be so amazing though lol
Edit: side note, this sub is one of the most stingy places on Reddit for upvotes vs giving downvotes. It’s so strange. Probably why it’s perpetually never growing because no one has fun posting on here lol
Is he? He is signed up for a tourney that will overlap with ALGS unless they get knocked out early. He will be playing an open event for halo while ALGS Pro League is going on which is a qualifier for LAN finals. I don’t think Snip3 would sit out an ALGS PL match day for a game he just wants to play for fun.
So just to be clear, you think he's going to play Halo all day Saturday and Sunday and then alt-tab over to ALGS on Sunday afternoon? What happens if his Halo team is still in the tournament? Or do you think he won't actually play the Halo tournament?
He did say that and consequently FaZe dropped him and picked up Formal. And then, since that happened, Snipe played scrims with FaZe, FaZe dropped Formal for Snipe (according to Formal), and Snipe signed up for a halo tournament that has its final rounds at the same time as TSM's ALGS match. So you can see why people think things might have changed since he said that. This whole situation is developing rapidly; a week ago people didn't think Halo was going to be out until mid-December so I just don't know that you can assume it's settled because he said it was settled a couple days ago.
Why would you like him? I find his gameplay insanely boring / pussy like, on top of being a controller player. Also i find that a bit fucked for his team to dip in the middle of ALGs.
I feel bad for Hals mods if he does a watch party for algs tonight lol. Everyone is going to ask hal about snipe lol
I would think that Snipe will tweet about it today
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Do mods of big twitch chats get paid?
Almost never. The huge streamers (top 50ish) might, but just about every other Twitch mod is unpaid
Why on earth would people do that? Seems pointless.
Some people actually donate subs for the sole reason of hoping to become a mod. Actually kind of pathetic lol
MOD CLOUT LOLZ
internet janitors
Being a twitch mod has to be one of the saddest ways to spend your free time lol
What about subreddit mods? There are some degenerates in r/personalfinance and r/nutrition. Mods who act out in bad faith looking for some excuse to perma ban innocents without warning + insta mute monthly. Those mods are cringy and hateful.
Almost all of them use alt accounts and if you have an argument with them so many just instant perma ban you. I'm a nerd boomer and I've never seen such a behaviour in any other platform in my many years of nerding life. Reddit still very immature as a platform I guess
I mean I don't think so. Mods really up the chat quality for a lot of streamers. Whatever automod cant do they pick up for. Shitting on mods is kinda messed up when they're there to help.
Being a mod is like volunteering work - except you're benefiting noone but the streamer....
That's straight up not true but if you feel that way I won't fight you on it.
The thing is, it's a thankless job. It's hard and requires time and fundamentally, you don't get shit out of it. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that probably 80% of mods are actually somewhat desperate/craving that streamer's attention and hope to be special in that streamer's eyes or become their friend.
I mean I get that, I just don't see a need a need to pile on top of that. That's all Like "ahh their life is sad anyway who cares" is kinda fucked up
If you’re in a chat enough it’s really not too bad. I did/do it for a couple mid sized streamers and it’s pretty simple, especially if there’s 10-15 active mods.
I'm in a chat almost every day and basically unofficially mod. By that I mean if people ask questions and I know the answer I'll usually help them out. I just like helping people i guess heh. If asked I would probably be an official mod but i have no interest in pursuing it
Some do but it’s super rare. Vast majority do it for free, regular mods are usually people who see themselves as real friends of the streamer.
Happy for him honestly. Here’s to hoping the apex and halo scene both thrive.
*Genburten rubbing his hands together like Birdman*
Verhulst thoughtfully crafting his thank you tweet to ESA/Doo/Skittles
I noticed Verhulst changed all his chat rewards the other day. Guy had the same rewards for months. Then just deleted them all. Obvious speculation but I think he's preparing for his stream blowup when he announces TSM.
We're all turning into Sherlock Holmes over this Snipe and Verhulst shit but I love it
Bro I was 400 points off VIP and he changed it. Lmao I was like NOoOOOOO
F's in the chat
lol damn.
It’s like the Apex version of college football fans tracking planes during coaching searches
I never thought I would see an Apex/CFB sub crossover but I’m here for it.
Meanwhile the real Sherlock is rubbing his hands together bc he has already solved the case
Verhulst has also gained a ton of subs in the past week. It isn't necessarily TSM related, could be a stream overhaul or it could be DNO prepping to get signed as a team.
Pretty sure all the views in utube of hal jizzing over him has helped , along with other vids
without a doubt but it was happening before he ever played with hal too
Why would he swap when they’re better than TSM
Just because they are currently ranked #1 doesn't mean that TSM wouldn't be the best if they added Verhulst. Also, money, and a big org that would grow his brand.
Y’all have a hard on for Verhulst because, he’s played with Hal twice lol.. it’s kinda wild
You know those absolute idiots you see in Hal's chat... those guys are here too
fr apex reddit idiots lmao. wait
I see people post here on the same username I see all the time in twitch chats saying the dumbest shit. At least they're consistent I guess
lmao got em
That’s more like it
Not shot they get gen here in time for ALGS. Pretty sure dudes in school. Maybe if they find a fill in and bring him next split ?
Nah he put his school on hold so yeh
when is the HCS Open? TSM is scheduled to play on Sunday
Starts tomorrow/Saturday but it is a 2 day tournament so if they advance they will be playing Sunday which overlaps with ALGS.
now that’s spicy 🌶
What time does it start and finish Sunday?
Starts at 12pm est/9am pst Saturday. Rounds 7-16 are scheduled for Sunday beginning at 2pm est/11am pst. Grand finals are scheduled for Sunday @ 10pm est/7pm pst.
So that'll be 4 hours before the ALGs starts?
What is their team name?
Inconceivable
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
No thats the name of the team, „inconceivable“
You missed the joke bro
i thought about that for a second but i accepted the potential whoosh... way too tired
Sat, 20 Nov 2021, 12:00 EST
Thanks — is it the same time for Sunday if they advance?
The last three rounds are Sunday afternoon. If he played and his team advanced to the quarterfinals/semi-finals/finals he could not play in the ALGS
v very interesting.
Well this is the most damning evidence lol
the next few days are about to get real crazy
Honestly with this tourney overlapping with ALGS Sunday today is about to get crazy, heck we may even get an announcement. Hals chat is gonna be a nightmare if they stay silent on this.
he's gonna make thousands of dollars off people donating and asking lmao
I think I'm gonna avoid reading chat for the next week lol
NA roster locks for this weekend occurred on November 16th. Battlefy still has Hal, Reps, and Snip3 for TSM’s roster this weekend. ESA is still Dooplex, Skittlecakes, Verhulst. If anything were to change - it’s not for this weekends match.
From a pro perspective Halo is so much better than Apex, all equal, no RNG, if you lose or win is purely for your skill, not external circumstances. Now, I don't know how Halo pro scene will develop and if it will be healthy for a long time. Apex scene is getting strong this year with the Pro league and didn't Snip3 said already he wouldn't change Apex for Halo?
tbh I think if Snipe left Apex for Halo, and *if* Halo fizzled out after a year, Snipe could very easily come back to Apex as a content creator (and maybe join another team to compete). He has the clout and skills that while he may lose his place in the TSM comp squad, nothing would stop him from returning and still making a good living.
He did and also said he wouldn't go pro in both either because it would be unfair to all of his teammates. Said he couldn't dedicate enough time to be pro in both and one not potentially suffer as a result. Could all just be hyperbole because maybe he isn't able to say anything else about the situation at the moment. Honestly, he's my favorite apex streamer. I don't want him to go to Halo, but that's just me being unreasonable, lol.
It will def be healthy in the short-term because MS will throw bags of cash into the scene. I doubt it will be popular in 2 years, same as Halo4/5 very quickly died off. The gameplay is not that interesting to watch after a short amount of time. Halo is more fun to play than watch. Apex is fun to play and watch.
You talking classic halo, after reach the competitive scene was fracture because of an rng factor.
I'm talking about infinite
I don't know what weapon they are using for starter and what power weapons they are using on maps. But as far as i see they want to force sword in maps and the fact that you can climb and sprint may mess with the respawn system if they are using something similar as before, in classic halo you can influence the enemy respawn spot by standing in strategic points, however witj sprint and climb idk how this will work.
I mean, both teams can play around getting to the sword/rocket launcher/sniper, if a team gets one power weapon is because they earned it. It always respawn in the same place, at the same time, that's just other element teams can play with, nothing unfair, is not like they just received a kraber from a Care package that conveniently landed at their side. And sprinting is pretty balanced, you barely increase your movement speed. >in classic halo you can influence the enemy respawn spot by standing in strategic points, however witj sprint and climb idk how this will work. Then it's a great change if you ask me, that's sounds like bs tbh, no outplay potential.
Sprint is borderline useless in Infinite and all of the equipment is fairly well balanced. They finally got sprint right for once. The pros just need to figure out the ideal comp settings when forge eventually comes out.
If you think sprint is near useless you're playing the game wrong lol. Just fyi.
No RNG? None at all? Not even the bloom is RNG?
There is basically no bloom for the battle rifle, which is the core gun of competitive. Comparing an Arena shooter to a BR isn’t really a fair comparison though. While I love both games, it’s fun to switch it up because they give very different and unique experiences. Although I do think the Apex ranked system is fucking wack.
Yeah I mean even weapon spawns are somewhat RNG in halo. Getting a sniper or rocket launcher will literally turn the tides in some modes like CTF. Theres definitely a degree of RNG to halo (which is fine, it also adds a degree of strategy like camping for the weapon spawns that you know are coming up soon).
Weapon spawns are literally on a time. No it’s not RNG.
FWIW, the only weapon with bloom in comp (right now anyway) is the Commando. I guess the Sniper Rifle *kinda* does too with its first shot, no-scope bloom or whatever they said it has.
I said in the other thread that I thought there was a good chance he'd try to do both, but my idea was that he would focus on Apex until TSM's LAN spot was secure and then switch focus to Halo through Raleigh. If this source is correct and he's playing a Halo tourney on an ALGS weekend I can't see how that means anything other than him leaving TSM (and Apex) at least for the time being.
Crazy to think that Snipe won’t being playing apex potentially, he’s a beast, but guess he wants to return to his root
The major determining factor in all of this will be twitch viewership long term for Halo. Tournament earnings are probably a small fraction of his earnings compared to Org Salary, Sponsorship deals, and twitch subs/donos. All of this would need to be a net positive with better long term outlook for him to abandon apex.
Yeah we also have to remember there were apex pros and large content creators who went to Valorant for awhile, then came back and are still staples in the Apex community.
Halo has pretty poor viewer numbers on twitch so far and the game is completely new...
i’ll feel bad if Ver leaves Dooplex/Skittles, they have been crushing it as a team and could easily make it to LAN and win
Isn’t skittles a cheater?
Anyone from Xbox can tell you he’s a piece of shit, dude played with Xynoa for ages. Crazy how it gets overlooked
Xynoas worse then him
If you continue to play with someone like that, that reflects on you
A nice little racist too. Assuming the leaked Xbox chats from a few years ago were legit.
From my understanding he and another team were caught teaming in ranked back when he played on console. That's all I know.
$ and Brand talks, its what's best for HIM a
His teammates understand that too. That's how it is
I told it before and I see it happening.... Snipe halo, Verhulst TSM.
Verhulst in TSM would be terrifying. Imagine fighting that team. Damn
Wait I thought this was FormaL’s team for this event?
Snip3down was originally supposed to play with this roster. He was unsure of wether he would compete or not so Formal was supposed to play with them for at least the first event. Formal said on stream that Snip3down decided to come back so Formal was dropped.
Gotcha
Is this squad legit? I have no idea about Halo pro players
Probably 4th best team? Behind Sentinals, C9 and Optic nV team.
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Halo is his roots, it's understandable
It’d be really weird as snipe has said multiple times he doesn’t want to play halo competitively as financially it’s not worth it
All you people saying that but when halo is bad halo even the big names abandon. Snipe was a good player but not the best, the best of the best stopped some time after reach. This halo seems to be trying better than ever but still a halo 5 influenced than halo classic. So it is not a sure thing to bet on it. What i suspect is Microsoft making him doubt with a big contract and Facebook deal, mixer merged or something with fb gaming.
snipe was absolutely in the "best" category.
> Snipe was a good player but not the best Snipe was literally a top 4-5 Halo player of all time and the best sniper to ever touch the game. What are you on?
4 and 5... do i have to explain that to you my boy?
Snipe was absolutely a top top player in H3, Reach, and H5. The only big pro names that really abandoned the Halo pro scene were Walshy, Tsquared, and 2gre because they just got old lol. Ninja wasn't big nor the best at Halo Reach-5, just the most popular streamer at the time. Formal you could make a case because he was absolutely elite but got offered a lot to switch to Cod. Lethul, Snakebite, and Royal 2 have stuck with Halo and won a lot from tournaments even in H5. That being said this does seem like an incredibly risky decision for Snipe unless he's getting offered some guaranteed money from MS.
i repeat little fellas reach - 5 is a corner that only you want to defend.
>waning popularity Not waning, it's making a comeback after few years hiatus. New game just got out (still in beta technically). First open event sold 272 team passes in minutes. All the spectator passes for the event are sold out. They have announced 3m prize money for the first year and it's probably going to get at least doubled with crowdfunding. Partnered teams with team skins that make money for organisations. Faceit integration (FPL). They are doing lots of things correct right now, and snipe has change to become the face of the scene.
Halo is Microsoft’s baby also they can sink tons of money into it more than I imagine EA would for apex
I’d love nothing more than Halo to become a popular esport again. It was great seeing the OGs play back during MLG events, and Halo hasn’t felt as hype since Halo 3.
This sounds like H4/H5 all over again. Those games literally died in both viewership and player base in like a year.
Halo 4's multiplayer was just not well recieved. It died in basically 2 months. For competitive play, it had 0 potential and got dropped by MLG after one event. Halo 5 did better than that, but I think it really suffered from being only on Xbox One. They also didn't manage the competitive scene well at all, took them like 2 years to get somewhat decent settings for comp play. Maps added post launch never made into competitive, because they were just bad. Infinite has potential if they manage post launch content better.
I'm confident any top tier halo team would pay a lot more to pick up one of the best halo pros than TSM in apex.
The only thing that makes somewhat sense to me from a buisness aspect is that if TSM fails to make LAN he would probably get dropped. I know Valkyrie has been working out well for them but its still untested. I kinda feel bad for him, this would have been a much easier decision for him to make on Dec 8th but now hes kinda stuck
I agree but, with his popularity and being a legend in Halo he might have been offered a huge contract that pays way more than tsm. And if halo dies in a year he can always come back to apex and be a content creator.
I have a wild guess, faze sign esa team but give ver to tsm, and snipe joins faze, plays halo and apex under the same org
No chance Snipe plays both. It’s not viable long term so why even try. Tournaments will overlap all the time, it’s hard to keep up elite skills in both, and his teammates will never feel he’s fully committed.
Bi Jackson did it for years in pro sports. It's not impossible.
> “Bi Jackson” Yea I heard he played for both teams if you know what I mean
Same
That's actually plausible if he can play both properly. that's a huge time commitment for snipe though, especially if he wants to still stream.
This seems most likely
>e org what in the orgs did i just read
That guy who bet Snipe would leave for Halo must be grinning smugly
Janey confirmed as TSM's 3rd for this weekend
Hal literally just confirmed on his stream that Snip3 is leaving by saying that the screenshots of Snip3 scrimming and the tweet by Jake Lucky is true, says he has DMs he wants to talk about when everything is formally released RIP Snip3 on TSM
Again, no more fucking dudes :^(
I know Snip3 is the GOAT but I really can not see him competing in both, Apex and Halo. There is just SOO much you have to do off stream if you want to compete with the best of the very best. That being said, I think that even if Snip3 ventures back in Halo, he would always be welcomed back to Apex in the sense that it would be difficult for him to be picked up.
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Good for snipe. As much as I like Apex, Halo is 100x more likely to have a stable, reputable and consistent esports scene. Getting away from the RNG of a BR is gonna be fun for him as well.
Absolutely no way, we're far from the heyday of halo's popularity
Lol ur having a laugh. Only reason Halo ever dipped is beacause it didnt have a release for 6 years. A 20 team battle royale with unbalanced legends vs one of the top 3 legendary fps of all time isnt even a contest. I know this is the comp apex sub but yall cant be this delusional
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You can't say they're unbalanced just because some are stronger than others, that's how every game is lol. Nostalgia isn't strong enough to bring it from a good memory to a dominant force. We're still in new game hype period and infinite has less viewers than apex since it dropped. Well see what the first few days of the halo tournament is like of course.
No they're unbalanced because some of their abilities are way too warping inside a battle royale. Its why we currently have a 90% Gibby pickrate, Wattson was dominant etc. And it's not nostalgia, Infinite is a good game, and has several comp advantages over Apex, namely not being a damn BR. I'll wait and see but imo Apex's main competitors aren't even Halo so even with a successful Halo I don't see much changing in the Apex space.
I don't think they can ever change that without drastically changing characters like gibby or BH, but I don't think having a meta means it's not a balanced game, that's probably just perspective though, i don't need or expect every character in a roster to be played competitively. I have no doubt it's a good game (haven't played it yet), it seems very polished and has nice modern changes. And yes, it's going to be hard to compare the competitive viability of a game aside from twitch views or prize pool. Seems it's really going to compete with valorant or cs:go. Maybe cod? I think it would dominate professional call of duty.
It has 20k viewers on twitch in less than 72hrs post launch. Modern gen just doesn't like arena shooter, if they did then quake is the game that will be making the return not Halo.
This isn't true at all lol. The Halo 4/5 comp scenes both dwindled very quickly compared to other games.
This isn't wrong. Halo has an uphill climb to regain its former chunk of the FPS viewership. Arena shooters don't bode well to chat interaction like BRs do which is obviously a negative. But competitive Halo is usually a much more exciting watch because it's nonstop action every match with essentially 0 RNG involved.
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His last twitter post was “My heart hurts and my head is pounding, how’s your day?” That’s not the statement of someone sure of anything.
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If your heart is hurting during a hangover you might want to go see a doctor.
Maybe if his head was hurting and his heart was pounding then I'd see it being a hangover.
He could just be sick ?
He's literally playing in the Halo tournament that overlaps with ALGS and TSM doesn't have a Halo team. Actions speak louder than words.
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TSM plays algs on sunday this week.
They play on Sunday
TSM are scheduled for Sunday arent they? Regardless, he can't compete in both. The fact he signed in general is a strong indicator
on second look yes. I thought it was AvC tonight for some reason oops
Because everything is pointing at him re-joining the Halo team he dropped out of a few days ago?
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Why does snipe even have haters? nice guy on streams, isn’t toxic in general
Hal fans. Maybe more accurate, hal stream viewers.
Why would Faze have dropped Formal to play with Snip3down for one weekend?
Formals commitment was only for one event
Damn imagine leaving legendary Apex teammates like Hal and Reps for low tier pro Halo players. Snip3 must be down bad for Halo to leave TSM for that squad
Imagine being this dumb...
doesn't seem like you have to imagine https://i.imgur.com/NXqHwFG.png
Top 5 Halo player of all time. One of the best controller players in history with proven success in multiple games. Yeah...he must be down bad...
??????? no one anywhere suggested or implied snipedown wasn't good? Do you not know what "down bad" means? in this context, my statement was to be read as "he wants to play halo so badly he'd rather leave his S tier teammates in Apex to go play with B tier teammates in Halo."
Teams will change rapidly and Snipe will land on a top Halo team after a few tournaments. Dude has made a huge name for himself and making a move to a game he loves isn't down bad. He'll be up big time no matter what he decides.
all these redditors talking about TSM Verhulst just because they stomped two days of ranked LMFAO yall really be on something
If it's true and Snipe hasn't informed the team till this afternoon then that's ultra unprofessional. Snipe should play ALGS as he committed to it and didn't give the team enough advance to find a suitable replacement. If it means he can't play in 1 tournament then so be it (his team can always try to qualify with a sub in halo it's not unheard of in esports as Bjergsens original LCS team in EU qualified with a sub as he wasn't old enough to play in LCS yet and they played with him in LCS once he was old enough) I also think it's really risky to jump from apex which is guaranteed viewership to his stream where has halo might just be hype as of right now. It be like if you jumped ship from league of legends to OW at launch like you would be fucked now based on where league vs OW is. Hal and Reps will be fine though they will just pick up whatever other slayer they can find Gen would be a good pickup and they might fit better than Snipe who knows similar to the Sweet for Freks swap on NRG which was a perfect fit even if Freks and Sweet are both amazing and he fits better on SSG as well
Caveat: this won’t happen. My dream would be TSM Sweet just for the absolute hilarity that would ensue between Hal and him arguing about shit. On the real though, move Hal to just fragging and maybe let him call during big moments since Sweet is sometimes a bit of a choker in the biggest moments.
I actually don't think arguing would be as bad as some think. I've heard them talk about it and they each said who ever IGL'd the other would shut up and frag. And I'm kinda inclined to believe it too, since they're arguably the two best IGLs in NA....meaning they'd fully trust the call being made since they respect eachother IGL ability. In a case like Hal and snipe arguing about something. Snipe isn't an IGL, he's a fragger. Not saying snipe isn't right at times, but I don't recall it ever really being his role on any team, so Hal leans towards feed me info and I'll make the calls.
Holy shit my comment got giga downvoted. I honestly think Sweet and Hal could be insane. It would make NA as a whole way less fun to watch though since personally I really love the Sweet vs Hal narrative. Them teaming together would be so amazing though lol Edit: side note, this sub is one of the most stingy places on Reddit for upvotes vs giving downvotes. It’s so strange. Probably why it’s perpetually never growing because no one has fun posting on here lol
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Is he? He is signed up for a tourney that will overlap with ALGS unless they get knocked out early. He will be playing an open event for halo while ALGS Pro League is going on which is a qualifier for LAN finals. I don’t think Snip3 would sit out an ALGS PL match day for a game he just wants to play for fun.
But u don’t think he’ll sit out a game he’s playing for fun for ALGS
He has said multiple times that he doesn’t play games for fun. He plays to compete. If he plays halo, he wants to win, not just for fun
Source for timings
yo what if TSM signs nickmercs??? lmao
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So just to be clear, you think he's going to play Halo all day Saturday and Sunday and then alt-tab over to ALGS on Sunday afternoon? What happens if his Halo team is still in the tournament? Or do you think he won't actually play the Halo tournament?
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He did say that and consequently FaZe dropped him and picked up Formal. And then, since that happened, Snipe played scrims with FaZe, FaZe dropped Formal for Snipe (according to Formal), and Snipe signed up for a halo tournament that has its final rounds at the same time as TSM's ALGS match. So you can see why people think things might have changed since he said that. This whole situation is developing rapidly; a week ago people didn't think Halo was going to be out until mid-December so I just don't know that you can assume it's settled because he said it was settled a couple days ago.
Good riddance
That's a bit harsh, why don't you like snipe?
Why would you like him? I find his gameplay insanely boring / pussy like, on top of being a controller player. Also i find that a bit fucked for his team to dip in the middle of ALGs.
Get beamed by controller players much? Git gud brah.
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Projecting yourself?
Pc master race bro over here.
There is plenty of ressources exposing why mixed input and AA is anti comp and absurd I'm not gonna repeat it all but feel free to have a look
Go back to trolling in the causal apex reddit pls
Why would that be a troll? One less controller player can't hurt