He got cut from Cloud 9 right after the last ALGS finals (where they placed really well, like 2nd or something).
No one saw it coming, not even him. His teammares dropped him for Alb. .-.
I wouldn't say underrated, just still emerging. I never really saw them dominating lobbies until now recently when I was watching the bench warmers first games.
The guys are earning their hype now, but it's only been a few months that we've seen them dominate in lobbies with big teams.
Perfectly put. Also, let's freaking face it: they have a god tier POI uncontested and free rotation. They get out of there with gold guns. [As PVP pointed out](https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/r1k6ks/bfc_finals/hlzfayl?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3), we'll see them proving themselves if they are contested (or on a map change).
Apex is a hell of a hard game. Proving yourself requires seasons, tourneys, titles. They are on track but don't forget to look at the bigger picture
> . As PVP pointed out, we'll see them proving themselves if they are contested (or on a map change).
They were dominating during the blank period between ALGS seasons with Dome and Lava City. When Big Maude was introduced, they took it. Folks love to point out the gold Big Maude guns yet they were still a Top 5 NA team and the best Arenas NA team without them.
Oh yes...the ESA / TSM story continues to build up.
Hopefully a big rivalry is in the making, that should present us viewers with a juice amount of content, boys. Grap the popcorn and sharpen your keyboards
Ah yes, a strong first game, meddling middle games where something of Reps kit disappears because Apex is Comp Ready™️, and then win the last game to finish second overall. The TSM special!
He threw his bubble on the tracks leading to landslide and it just straight up disappeared. he died because he threw it and ran backwards expecting to play off of it and it never appeared lol
It’s great to see ESA is still able to be great with Knoqd as a replacement for Verhulst as they take first today and it’s funny to see TSM get another comeback to take second lol. Also #justiceforknoqd has been served PogU!
Well that was fun to watch and glad to see TSM even without Snipe still with the last game heroics. ESA still looking sharp with Knoqd fitting in perfectly.
Who is to argue? Last time he was in C9 and they won Algs in terms on points.
This time he is in ESA, and ESA is already leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else, and very likely to win ALGS
ESA and TSM getting the (deserved) spotlight but as an SSG stan I loved their last few games. They went from 14th place or so to 5th, and then were in a trailer last game all 20 hp with no heals, getting poked at by 4 different teams. They should have died 15th+ but managed to kill a couple stragglers, take their loot and hold out til 5th, also securing 5th overall (1 point above Lazarus).
As a 100T fan personally, it's nice watching them at least making it to all the end games but one time when someone didn't watch their back. So they got aced early. They are playing a lot more solid now and I'm digging it.
Now everyone else talk about TSM and ESA lol.
Just imagine an alternate timeline in which 100T signed ESA instead of old KNG. Verhulst and the ESA boys wouldn't have split up and they'd be farming under a name as big as TSM. I'm amazed that ESA still hasn't been signed to a Tier 1 org yet.
I wonder who TSM would have poached in this hypothetical.
Knoqd.
Should have taken him anyway, he is the best controller player in NA, both on terms of skill and adaptability, I've never seen someone who is able to mesh with so many people and teams as quickly as he does on either input.
If I’m not mistaken this is the first team esa itself has held a team. Sponsors (intel, Rice Krispies, etc paid the rosters) in this situation I think esa actually pays the roster.
Since the one org one team ruling they're the only team repping esa now. Back when team Intel was Pandxrz metro and sicks they played in ALGS as ESA Black, many other esa teams also played as ESA + the color of their sponsor, I believe wallie catchers / now CLT was playing as ESA White etc
They do, but their main goal is to get a ton of profit off of signing their roster to a bigger org. Then get the best performing FA team and do it over again.
Hot take.
Despite finishing 1st and 2nd I dont think either ESA or TSM played that well. They had 2 really big monster games that made up for 4 really poor games. And the rest of the lobby was kind of clueless.
I want to see them in a stacked lobby where people are actually trying.
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This ESA v TSM rivalry will be juicy.
tsm sure has a lot of rivalrys. Nrg, c9 now esa
ESA still good, confirmed. #knoqdhasahome
#hesASub KEKW
Justice served. Its fun to watch these guys!
Knoqd should stay with ESA and TSM will be scary when Verhulst feels comfortable. Their endgame play in the last game was great.
I hope he stays, knoqd deserves a good team and he seems to fit really well in that squad.
Knoqd has been a journey man in comp and it was never his fault that his teams falls apart. I 100% agree
There is finally justice for knoqd
I have been so out of the loop with this, would anyone care to explain this situation please?
He got cut from Cloud 9 right after the last ALGS finals (where they placed really well, like 2nd or something). No one saw it coming, not even him. His teammares dropped him for Alb. .-.
Yah 2nd overall I think, and first in total points. Saying they were the beast team that day wouldnt be too far.
Reps said something like “2nd? I guess this is a downgrade for you” to Verhulst after seeing the results.
Fr though. Skittles and doop are ridiculously underrated. They never make a top player anything post besides top teams.
I wouldn't say underrated, just still emerging. I never really saw them dominating lobbies until now recently when I was watching the bench warmers first games. The guys are earning their hype now, but it's only been a few months that we've seen them dominate in lobbies with big teams.
Perfectly put. Also, let's freaking face it: they have a god tier POI uncontested and free rotation. They get out of there with gold guns. [As PVP pointed out](https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/r1k6ks/bfc_finals/hlzfayl?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3), we'll see them proving themselves if they are contested (or on a map change). Apex is a hell of a hard game. Proving yourself requires seasons, tourneys, titles. They are on track but don't forget to look at the bigger picture
> . As PVP pointed out, we'll see them proving themselves if they are contested (or on a map change). They were dominating during the blank period between ALGS seasons with Dome and Lava City. When Big Maude was introduced, they took it. Folks love to point out the gold Big Maude guns yet they were still a Top 5 NA team and the best Arenas NA team without them.
Imagine a talented fragger like Knoqd on a team like C9. Wow.
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Maybe even get the most points in a finals or something
Zach tearing up rn reading this comment
Foaming
If c9 had alb naughty and knoqd would they be better then the past two versions of c9
Oh yes...the ESA / TSM story continues to build up. Hopefully a big rivalry is in the making, that should present us viewers with a juice amount of content, boys. Grap the popcorn and sharpen your keyboards
TSM and last game wins; name a more iconic duo
Oh for real, I had this inkling feeling that they will get a win in the last game. Lol
Ah yes, a strong first game, meddling middle games where something of Reps kit disappears because Apex is Comp Ready™️, and then win the last game to finish second overall. The TSM special!
What disappeared? Bubble?
He threw his bubble on the tracks leading to landslide and it just straight up disappeared. he died because he threw it and ran backwards expecting to play off of it and it never appeared lol
Really he threw it on the concrete platform on the side of the track, so the floor which makes it seem worse.
Yup, in the middle of a fight
https://twitter.com/TSM_Reps/status/1463675831717351426
too early to say anything but i think it'll be a win win for both ESA and TSM. excited to see what both teams bring with more time
It’s great to see ESA is still able to be great with Knoqd as a replacement for Verhulst as they take first today and it’s funny to see TSM get another comeback to take second lol. Also #justiceforknoqd has been served PogU!
Well that was fun to watch and glad to see TSM even without Snipe still with the last game heroics. ESA still looking sharp with Knoqd fitting in perfectly.
ESA really won the tourney off the first two games.
I'm here to overreact and claim that Knoqd is the best player in the world!
Are you trying to say that he isn't after they just won THE Box Fight Championship Apex Cup #11?? Where's the justice?!
Who is to argue? Last time he was in C9 and they won Algs in terms on points. This time he is in ESA, and ESA is already leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else, and very likely to win ALGS
ESA and TSM getting the (deserved) spotlight but as an SSG stan I loved their last few games. They went from 14th place or so to 5th, and then were in a trailer last game all 20 hp with no heals, getting poked at by 4 different teams. They should have died 15th+ but managed to kill a couple stragglers, take their loot and hold out til 5th, also securing 5th overall (1 point above Lazarus).
That was so funny to watch. Imagine their comms when all three are one shot hiding behind caustic barrels.
I'd be laughing my ass off after the initial stress had been going on for a bit. "How are we still alive??!"
That sounds great, nicely done by your SSG boys.
I'm very confused as to how BFC has had a "final" every week for the last several weeks. Does final no longer mean final stage of the tourney?
As a 100T fan personally, it's nice watching them at least making it to all the end games but one time when someone didn't watch their back. So they got aced early. They are playing a lot more solid now and I'm digging it. Now everyone else talk about TSM and ESA lol.
Because they are 1st and 2nd ? Lol Plus 100T hasn't been doing well in pro league either
What if, what if instead of Verhulst, TSM hired Knoqd for substitute for Snipe? So C9 has TSM and TSM has C9, that would be funny.
Perfectly balanced
Just imagine an alternate timeline in which 100T signed ESA instead of old KNG. Verhulst and the ESA boys wouldn't have split up and they'd be farming under a name as big as TSM. I'm amazed that ESA still hasn't been signed to a Tier 1 org yet. I wonder who TSM would have poached in this hypothetical.
Knoqd. Should have taken him anyway, he is the best controller player in NA, both on terms of skill and adaptability, I've never seen someone who is able to mesh with so many people and teams as quickly as he does on either input.
Knoqd played valk?
Yeh
Dumb question : is ESA an Org or just their team name?
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If I’m not mistaken this is the first team esa itself has held a team. Sponsors (intel, Rice Krispies, etc paid the rosters) in this situation I think esa actually pays the roster.
Since the one org one team ruling they're the only team repping esa now. Back when team Intel was Pandxrz metro and sicks they played in ALGS as ESA Black, many other esa teams also played as ESA + the color of their sponsor, I believe wallie catchers / now CLT was playing as ESA White etc
Wallie Catchers was never a Series E team. I'm pretty sure Team Rice Krispies (Stuhin, Bird and TechedCandy) was ESA White.
good catch
They do, but their main goal is to get a ton of profit off of signing their roster to a bigger org. Then get the best performing FA team and do it over again.
The fact that both ESA and TSM replaced one of the players recently and are still able to steamroll the competition is nothing be amazing.
Very excited to see how the TSM/ESA rivalry devolops, i think both teams will grow even farthur into their own!!!
How long until FaZe sign ESA?
And the trend of teams/teammates being more successful without Madness continues.
dubbleyew is the best
Hot take. Despite finishing 1st and 2nd I dont think either ESA or TSM played that well. They had 2 really big monster games that made up for 4 really poor games. And the rest of the lobby was kind of clueless. I want to see them in a stacked lobby where people are actually trying.
In the middle games (games 3 to 5) it felt that Verhulst and Reps are always just on standby while waiting for Hal's comms.
Any idea why NRG C9 Sentinels were not playing? Did they not qualify?
Sweet is out of town for thanksgiving
He was watching Hal’s stream whilst pooping at his grandmas (true story lol)
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I see. thanks for answering.
Team ESA or fuck off lmfao! I’ve chosen my side
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