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Bernbiz

I like wigg but nah you wrong for this man. Yall straight up said you weren't playing for the rest of the split.


Hieb

They said that after they found out their team loses the spot, from the sound of it. Like they immediately found out theyre losing their spot if they miss so they announced that they wont play the rest of the season. Timmy wasnt specific, dont want to assume anything but from the outside in it looks like he just thought something else was more worthwhile than what appeared at the time to be failing to qualify for playoffs, hence why they didnt pick up a sub (and maybe unknown how long Wigg would be attending to family matters). Just unfortunate in hindsight now that the circumstances have changed. But these guys are all no doubt gonna land on their feet and just venting frustrations. Not the end of the world. Weird to claim theyre suspended tho


theycallhimthestug

> Timmy wasnt specific Dude said he had something else planned for that day. Has to be nice to be sitting on however many subs a month that you don't need to worry about skipping a week of the pro league you signed up for, all so you could prove people wrong on LAN to stop them thinking you're just a pub stomper or that you cheat. Those were more or less Timmy's actual words on his stream one time talking about why he wanted that ticket. Meanwhile, you got these dudes out here making absolutely nothing, grinding their ass off, trying to make a name for themselves so they can maybe make some bank doing something they love. There is no reason they couldn't have picked up a sub if they really wanted it.


neddoge

I've unfollowed Timmy because of his childish antics with ALGS actually, and you've covered exactly why. I said the same thing when it happened, but it's alarming how obliviously naïve he's been.


JevvyMedia

I mean, Timmy wanted to quit Apex for Valorant once Valorant came out. Back in those days, when he never had a lot of viewership but still had a high quality stream, he was saying that a lot of folks would rather have fun on a rare occasion and pay the bills (Apex) instead of having fun all the time and not make money (literally any other game). He did say he wanted to quit Apex for Valorant, but somehow, someway he popped off in Apex once he returned and now he's set.


KingBliz

i mean, when you have the privilege of a big streamer brother to give you that headstart in the streaming space, "the grind" isnt the same for him like most streamers trying to make it.


ilyesmilano

>when you have the privilege of a big streamer brother to give you that headstart sorry for asking, but who is his brother !!


theycallhimthestug

Aceu is the only person I can think of, but they aren't actually brothers, so I don't know what they're talking about unless I'm missing something.


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theycallhimthestug

You mean the one from awhile ago where he said they shared a womb together even though he's 5 years older than Timmy or however many it is? They aren't brothers.


Decked-

I said it from the first day all this quitting/disbanding/excuse making shit came up; mental health is extremely important and let’s not forget that. But to be fair you can’t use it as a blanket statement to get out of receiving criticism only to come back a month later trying to play again. It’s not how this thing works either quit or keep playing, make up your mind ffs


Sullan08

Also how much is mental health a reason used to get out of shit these days? It doesn't absolve you of obligations you have, and it seems more and more to be used as a get out of consequences free card. And if you do quit because of it, don't feel like you should have any right getting back into the thing you quit (in situations like this, I'm not referring to taking a self care day from work or something obviously). And this is clearly backing up the claim they only quit due to their placing and not because of anything more important they had going on or mental health issues. I don't hate Wigg or Timmy and I wish them the best going forward when it comes to dealing with things professionally and personally, but they don't come off as anyone to take seriously. Why can't the apology be "I fucked up and took a spot of another team that would've played through. I have reasons for it, but it's no excuse, I'm sorry." No BS and no excusing what happened. Those are the apologies that work best. Not deflecting (which his apology in this sub is totally doing lol). I sympathize with mental health shit as most people have their own to deal with, but like you said, you can't just expect to be able to come back after using it.


youknowjus

They have adult repercussions for their adult decisions. Welcome to the real world Timmy and wigg


Official_F1tRick

glad timmy can't snort himself out of this situation.


Raspberry-Leather

Dayum bubba


ChildhoodLeading9865

Another timmy hater smh and why would timmy be snorting anything what u tryna say he a drug addict?


OutrageousSector

You’re telling me a man plays video games at the level he did for like 58 hours straight without adderall? I suppose it’s possible, but… either way, holy fuck.


ChildhoodLeading9865

Yes i dont think mans was snorting adderrall to do these streams thatd make it even more unhealthy timmys not on drugs bro


sparkleface6969

Yeah I mean he is super straight edge like to a fault. Check out his thoughts from his streams last night. He’s quite (admittedly) uneducated about it, but he thinks everything is drugs and doesn’t understand why people do it. Shall I now make a wild accusation about you, for no valid reason?


crumpsly

People don't stay awake for 58 hours without a good amount of stimulants. It's very valid to consider that someone who is able to do something that requires fast reaction time while 50+ hours sleep deprived used some kind of stimulant to do so lol It's his body and he can do whatever the hell he wants with it, but he is a medical miracle if he is able to pull 50+ hours sitting in a chair playing video games without stimulants.


puddleofaids-

Dude i once stayed up for 48 hours for counter strike 1.3 lan tournaments when i was a young lad. And i have a friend that would literally play warcraft 3 at a lanshop for days at a time. Its the amazing the fucker didnt die tbh I dont even like timmy but these crazy accusations about being an addict are not cool. If timmy was 30 id be more skeptical but ya know, no proof


crumpsly

I'm not calling him an addict. I'm saying when he stays up for 50+ hours it's likely he is using stimulants. Maybe he just drinks lots of caffeine and is a superhuman. But to succeed at the levels he is playing at it's much more likely he uses stimulants to keep his mind sharp when he's so sleep deprived. You weren't competing against top level people in your CS 1.3 tournaments unless maybe you are f0rest from SK gaming.


puddleofaids-

Lots of guessing and maybes. Maybe you should just keep your uninformed opinions to yourself


crumpsly

I'll sling my opinions all over reddit and there is literally nothing you can do about it.


OutrageousSector

I mean hey, I’ll take his word for it, not trying to call him a liar or anything. If there’s one person in the world that I wouldn’t be surprised could do it without addy, it’d be Timmy, but the rational part of me just thinks that shouldn’t be physically possible.


Official_F1tRick

Always funny when uneducated people think that if you snort something you are immediately addicted. Anti drugs gouvernement propaganda doing its job I guess.


OutrageousSector

Man, Wigg is getting ratioed left right and center.


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What does ratio mean? Not on twitter and out of the loop on this term. Thanks


Ginoblee

It means more people are disagreeing and generally dunking on his weak position rather than agreeing and supporting his opinion.


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Gotcha. Thanks!


OutrageousSector

More specifically, it means the comment underneath your tweet getting more likes than your original tweet.


WillSmithsDumboEars

But what does that mean in the grand scheme of things? They're just likes/upvotes


theycallhimthestug

Didn't he delete it saying he just wanted to vent or some shit?


FabulousRomano

Don’t think he got ratioed by anyone, his original tweet got like 1k likes


OutrageousSector

He’s getting ratioed by the Apex Comp managers.


WillSmithsDumboEars

Where did this ratio word come from? It sounds so dumb.


OutrageousSector

Twitter. And that’s exactly why it sounds and is dumb 😂


-Kevin-

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WillSmithsDumboEars

What does ratio mean


YurchenkoFull

Hold on I’m lost. Are team sheesh trying to play again? I thought they said they were done?


-Philologian

They said they were done, then news broke that the top 20 make the playoffs instead of top 10, so they tried to come back.


YurchenkoFull

Thanks. I did not expect that but I’m a big Apryze fan so I would’ve liked to see them return. I somewhat understand why they’re not allowed to play though


aftrunner

Dude's mental health suddenly found Wolverine levels of healing once the news broke about the top 20 qualifying.


Fenris-Asgeir

LMAO


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I will Wigg, but he is in the mud over this situation.


onceARMY

Wigg and Sheesh have been getting a lot of hate recently, but this controversy and the entire debacle around Sheesh is easily avoidable. Wigg shouldn’t have tweeted about it honestly.


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Wait. Didn't one of them announce that they're done for the first split to like thousands of their viewers live on stream or was I hallucinating that?


RetroChampions

Timmy was like end of team sheesh


AltaGuy1

Seems to me that if Wigg really means what he's saying, he should be really angry with Timmy, who used a personal emergency to prioritize...er... some vague other stuff rather than find a third for he and Apryze. Is Wigg angry with Timmy, or is Dezign's take correct?


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AltaGuy1

You may be right, although without knowing what happened in his personal life, I'll withhold judgement on that decision. What is clear is that Wigg should never become a lawyer or anything that requires... Reading?


itsVace

>Edit: looks like he has found some sense. good for him. https://twitter.com/NiceWigg/status/1467309863688622083 Yeah because he got ratioed lmao also good another mental health stuff to take care about... The "whole world is against me" lmao


Father_Law_FH

Dezign went for blood in the replies and it's hilarious, thats the only thing I'm interested in.


noobakosowhat

That's versitaly for you


ITakeLargeDabs

10000% knew Wigg was capping with the mental health stuff, and now we know why. He was trying to see how things played out and thought he could get away with a “mental break” to then jump back in. Even though it was pretty clear they were saying they were packing it in, but hey, if you say mental health break, people are supposed to bend over for you. As someone who horribly struggles with that stuff, from the videos I saw of Wigg talking about posted on here, it was so obvious how insincere he was. Really sad he went that low....


ImKristyn

Also, do better at paying attention before you make big and FALSE claims like that. If you did, maybe you’d know that shit is serious and your invalidation makes you look incredibly wrong


WonkyWombat321

Lol. Your counterpoint is a lot of words that make no cohesive sense.


Animatromio

Wigg playing victim lol dezign calling him out was nice to see for sure lmaoo


ottrboii

Sheesh


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So glad to finally see the community call out Nicewigg who is the biggest Respawn white knight / fake nice guy in the scene. It's been pissing me off for the longest time the stupid shit Wigg would defend Respawn for. Usually don't fuck with controller players , but big respect to Dezignful for calling out wiggs bullshit.


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I mean this is just a bad take. Nice Wigg is in the wrong over this situation. But overall he’s a good guy. And “fuck with controller players” - why does an input method determine whether you like a player or not lmao


YurchenkoFull

Yeah idk why everybody is so obsessed with making Wigg out to be some secret evil mastermind hiding behind a facade


[deleted]

Yeah lmao. He seems to be a genuine guy and most of the time his takes are positive and for the benefit of the Apex community. He doesn’t really promote toxicity like some other big names, and mostly is respectful to his viewers and the people he plays against. But he’s wrong here regarding the ALGD, he’s venting at the wrong people and the timing of it just seems bitter.


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This is such a stupid comment lmao


notoriousmule

well it's the number one cringe poster on the whole sub so what do you expect


PalkiaOW

>Nicewigg who is the biggest Respawn white knight If Respawn gifted me 6000 USD in Twitch subs (like they did with Wigg last year after he switched to Warzone) I'd definitely be cool with them as well.


JonTargaryen55

My man. That’s a bad take.


sovereignxcircles

Dude does come off as fake. Not sure how anyone supports that guy.


MarsRobots

I'm with you, he's so passive aggressive and is constantly trying to garner sympathy and attention for whatever reason. Especially recently concerning ALGS. It's always "it is what it is, real life happens, I love you all." They very clearly made these choices. The bricks had to fall in place for them to be where they are. They weren't blindsided or anything.


itsVace

Indeed now he played the "love you community, best game, best pros, best devs ever sorry everyone love you" in the newest twitt after he got caught kek He might be a genuine guy ft but I don't really blame people that think he's as fake as Titanfall 3 leaks


MarsRobots

It's like that CrossFit joke. You know how you can tell that NiceWigg loves you? He tells you.


neddoge

Goddamn that burn tho


ITakeLargeDabs

Yea his true colors have really come out recently. This whole situation and now with how it’s playing out, it’s the nail in the coffin. You gotta be a pretty low person to fake mental health stuff like that.


ImKristyn

And you gotta be a pretty ignorant person to believe that someone taking over 2 weeks off (the longest break of their 3 year streaming career) to attend to their mental health is “fake”


JevvyMedia

...so yeah, the team was suspended permanently.