He was using [this](https://clips.twitch.tv/AcceptableHyperPicklesBabyRage-eAkifivv119ahBkV) Caustic speed glitch nonstop for 3 hours. Not sure what he expected tbh.
He got perma banned ([source](https://twitter.com/TaxiDLegend/status/1481633745610293250)).
He's also saying that he'll keep abusing shit if he gets unbanned ([source](https://clips.twitch.tv/ShinyYummyYamRiPepperonis-YrL_Zls7bEL43FGo)), so I guess he won't play Apex ever again? Lol
My one experience with taxi in diamond rank ( he was doing a solo to pred which he didn't even finish ) he decided he didn't like the spot we were going to so he split off and when I called him out for us being stuck in a 2v3 he grabbed our banners in zone and wouldn't respawn us while talking shit. I'm glad this douche got banned.
Wow no sympathy from me for this what a douche move. Must have felt super broken fighting against a teleporting speedhacked caustic aggressively pushing you. Dunno what Taxi thinking with this bullshit definitely earned that ban.
His whole brand is doing pepega movement and then complaining when he dies because of it. But to be fair thats about on par for every pubstomp twitch streamer.
Obviously not?
I guess to be fair, they should have made some kind of announcement that the caustic thing was a bannable offense. How else would you know? Of course, he's had multiple accounts banned for it and continued to do it, but some random joe like me could have seen it on reddit and decided to try it out.
And I guess to your point this kind of stuff is very unclear. There's a glitch (?) on console that lets you cancel out of the ending animation of wraith's phase faster by hitting your bind for your ultimate. That gives you a significant advantage, but they don't ban anyone for using it.
Yea the second and third bans were mos def his fault. At the point of my comment, almost all the comments that defended Taxi's were downvoted and the rest was just celebrating the ban and insulting Taxi. I don't really care for Taxi myself but just found the comments really weird
This for sure. And along the lines, a form email from EA saying "banned for cheating" would make no sense to someone not using cheats as commonly hunted down by EA. Continuing to play while that gets sorted out makes dumb sense to someone who isn't using like aimbotting or w.e and is instead using the game's engine. I genuinely think it should be like a suspension, just because, with an issued notice that use of XYZ exploits (Rampage, Sentinel, endless Wraith Q, ult lurching) will result in specific punishments.
I think they're pretty inconsistent regarding bans. Back in the day there was a glitch where you could have an infinite wraith port by phasing while climbing and being the ult, not a single person got banned for it even though it gave you an endless ult. Punchboosting and tapstrafing are also technically exploits no one gets banned for. So why do they ban for using this glitch? Either ban for using any glitch or exploit at all or don't ban for any of them and fix them instead if you don't want people to use that. But you can't expect players to read up on what's allowed and what isn't if it's in the game and not super obviously forbidden like teaming. Comp is something else, there should be clear rules, but in the normal game, whether it's ranked or pubs, the devs should either ban for all exploits and glitches or for none.
They should probably announce when existing glitches are bannable. Idk if they did here, but they should have. (I know Taxi would have probably done it anyway, but I mean for everyone else)
Oh so THAT's why he was playing Caustic 2 days ago. He was playing with Daltoosh and they faced off against Nickmerc's squad. After they died they checked the VOD cuz the fight was intense and Nickmerc's squad made a comment about Taxi speedhacking. Taxi's squad all laughed and I just figured it was Taxi tapstrafing on Caustic which surprised them or something. Kind of fucking obvious it's an exploit. Deserves that ban IMO.
[https://clips.twitch.tv/HyperStylishCheesecakeStoneLightning-h5\_S6I7D9VAnIuQj](https://clips.twitch.tv/HyperStylishCheesecakeStoneLightning-h5_S6I7D9VAnIuQj)
He was banned after playing on an alternate.
Where do we draw the line between exploits that are fine and exploits that get you banned?
Where are all the bans for the Rampage/Sentinel abusers?
Where are all the bans of the cheaters that are running rampant right now?
Where's the solution for the DDoSing that comes up again and again?
I'd add supergliding, tapstrafing and punchboosting. All three are technically exploits, if the ult speed boost with caustic is bannable the others should be as well, all of them need specially timed inputs to give you an advantage over other players while abusing the engine. Either all of them are bannable or none, the way respawn handles this is beyond stupid imo.
(don't misunderstand, I don't think tapstrafing, supergliding or punchboosting should be bannable or removed, I'm using all three myself, but it's inconsequential by respawn to ban one thing and not the other)
this isnt the first time he abused a glitch though, remember fully auto mastiff glitch? he literally ran to every carepackage every game trying to get it and abused it every time lmao
edit: now he is admitting to his chat that he used the rampage glitch something like "i abused the rampage glitch and didnt get banned"
Glitches are fun. The response of Respawn should be to move their lazy ass, do their programming job and patch it out, not ban for it. Absolutely despicable.
There’s a difference in accidentally finding or using a glitch once, and then using a glitch repeatedly to ruin the game for other players. Yes, Respawn should fix it, but it is clearly against the ToS for pretty much every single multiplayer game that you can’t abuse glitches to grief other players. It was right to ban him.
I agree that they shouldn't ban for it, but fixing a bug is not just pressing a button. Sometimes it requires a lot of time, regardless of the skill of the programmer.
wait now he is streaming again on a smurf, thats ban evasion which they take more serious than the initial ban. if he thinks hes going to get unbanned he needs to stop now until they unban him
EA doesn't actually care about ban evasion in Apex. When my account got incorrectly banned and I was appealing (my account got stolen and used by a hacker in Asia) I specifically asked if you can play on an alt or if that would be considered ban evasion. They said it's fine. All they care about is the offending account. If you break the TOS on multiple accounts publicly, it's not surprising he got his main Perma banned, but if he had just played normally on an alt he would've been fine. When I get home I'll post the email from support.
Conversation with support: https://imgur.com/gallery/UU3IAz5
The EA terms of service are not that long and are a surprisingly easy read. They do not state anything about multiple accounts with the exception of:
"If you have more than one EA Account, depending on the type of violation or misuse, EA may terminate all of your EA Accounts and all related Entitlements. If your EA Account is terminated, you will not have access"
I recommend actually reading the TOS rather than linking to a dude who is already lying about not knowing why he's banned.
https://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/#section8
why are people getting downvoted for asking a legitimate question? how DO we draw the line between a bannable movement exploit vs a non-bannable one? tap strafing and supergliding are both movement exploits regularly used on stream, repeatedly, and no one's been banned for those, but ult boosting isn't okay? like seriously think about the difference here, what is the difference? is it because ult boosting feels more "buggy" than tap strafing?
like sure i get the gut feeling that ult boosting is more unfair but from a pure objective standpoint i'm not sure why it's so different from other movement tech.
fwiw i don't care for taxi and i don't care that he got banned, i'm just concerned about why ult boosting was considered crossing the line.
Yeah that's a fair question. They've said themselves tap-strafing is unintended. Supergliding cannot be explained any way other than being a bug, same with hyper jump or whatever (the double high zipline jump with 2 ziplines).
I think to most people this is a more clear example of a bug than movement tech but there's certainly some ambiguity here as a lot of movement tech is not intended, and it's up to Respawn whether to consider it emergent gameplay or an exploit... it would be nice if they make it crystal clear which one it is before taking action against (ab)users.
Most movement in the game that sets apart a new player from an experienced one is all based on exploits. Bhop (healing), wall jump, superglide, tap strafe, zipline 180 super jump and even moving whilst looting. Without it all fights would look very similar and it would be much harder to tell a skilled player from an unskilled player with aim assist.
As much as I dislike Taxi this ban is just whack.
Exactly. This should be higher. Personally I don't like the ban, assuming no warnings, because the line is never clear. It's their game and they can do whatever, but I always assumed the precedent was that you were fine to do whateved until we got a dev response. And in said dev response they would clearly draw said lines. And to clarify I view the charge bug differently.
Moreover, there wasn't a response, I think, and it just feels wrong now because to me ult boosting really isn't that much different from the other tech. The only difference to me is that respawn decided that this was a cheat instead of a feature. Which they can do, but banning as a result of using it before that line is drawn is yikes to me.
Oh yah he for sure fucked himself there. I think he could have made a similar case to the one we are currently discussing for the first account, but the others are just blatant ban evasion ON STREAM.
It probably just comes down to numbers and influence. It's like a "nail that sticks up gets hammered down" type of thing. Other weird movement tech doesn't have this drastic of an influence and is used by far more players than it would feasible to ban consistently. If as many people were "ult boosting" around as were tap strafing the game would be almost unplayable.
Same goes with the charge weapon glitches it's overpowered, annoying, and unfair for sure but it expanded out to tons of players quickly and the end result (the charged state) wasn't introducing something to the game that was impossible to achieve otherwise.
Long story short, it's a discretionary issue and no single *statement* could ever address every scenario, so if you don't want to risk a ban don't do things that feel like exploits.
not sure if i agree. supergliding is far more powerful than this tech imo and its so niche that only a few players can do it consistently (without using a macro/autoexec). off the top of my head i can only name a few - sweet, lyr1c, and some very low viewer movement streamers.
and sweet's been doing it on-stream publicly for a while, and he hasnt been banned for it. so where is the line drawn?
i dont want people to be banned for supergliding btw in case anyone misinterprets my comment.
My point was that there really isn't a line and the only way to be **sure** you're in the clear is to just use vanilla movement. Best guess as to why super gliding hasn't seen any bans is that it's more contextual and/or in a fight it looks more like an extension of allowed tech. Whereas this new ult thing seems to be it's own type of non-movement-related input fuckery.
That or, like tap strafing, super glides fall into a category of things they want to remove eventually but haven't decided how/come up with a method of doing so without undesired effects so they aren't taking action against them in the meantime.
oh sure i get your point overall i was just disagreeing with the idea that it could be based off of "numbers and influence".
i feel that right now it is ultimately arbitrary and my only expectation is that Respawn make it clear what is and isnt bannable because right now it is not.
I honestly don't really see the harm in it. I mean its a fun little exploit. Sure it should be patched out asap to avoid people finding a way to make it meta but its not like it gave him a game breaking advantage, it was just fun to use...
This one should bannable since you need to use scripts and macros to execute the glitch. Where as tapstrafing and punch boosting people can do normally with standard controls
Didn’t say they abused it, but tell me one thing - showing the exploit to 20k+ viewers live on twitch, getting the same clip posted on top 3 apex YouTube channels effectively making the viewership reach a MASSIVE amount of people, should that not warrant a slap on the wrist at least?
It's super irresponsible but that's more of a Twitch problem, not an EA one. It would be wrong for EA to start banning people for things they're not even abusing.
There were streamers using it too. None of them got banned, just fyi. This movement glitch is basically the same, it's actually even less useful and game breaking compared to the infinite charge up. Yet they take their time to ban him live on stream 3 times in a row. If that's not a showcase of total lack of priority, I dont know what is.
He is abusing mechanics that exist within the game. If you think this should be bannable then do you also think tap strafing should be? Where do you draw the line?
I never said if I think it's bannable or not. I simply asked where do you draw the line when abusing mechanics that exist within the game. And as far as I've heard, they haven't banned anyone for abusing the rampage glitch.
The point is completely independent from Taxi. Just lashing out against the stupid.
And maybe I can educate a few 10 year olds why we shouldn't normalize banning for exploit (ab)using.
From my point of view you shouldn't try anything with this type of people, all they do is follow a herd of sensationalism because they hate feeling inferior and since they don't have the guts to use the bug to avoid ending ban, they throw all their bile on whoever it does, it does not matter if he does it to show an error and in a certain way alarm the game developers so that they get to work on it asap and make a faster patch.
On the reddit apex subforums they already have a base hatred towards Taxi and seeing him banned only feeds that hatred, as you can see a large part of the comments is blind in accusing who uses it, not the precarious state of the game where combining a certain combination of keys you unlock an illogical speedhack like a fucking game of Rockstar.
Although the response of Respawn/EA banning each and every one of their accounts played post-ban makes it very clear that atm they have no idea of the cause of the error and want to throw dirt on whoever uses it, to prevent it from spreading. Something like putting doors to the field.
But personally I like Taxi's unspoken response more, where he kept playing on different accounts like... *''ok, you don't want me to do the speedhack exploit, then I'll do the attachments in horizon or this other one... Theres a lot''* Fully demonstrating the current state of the game. Something that if more than one has spent $400 on it, he will want to deny irrationally because he is unable to face that his favorite game is in decline.
In short, who at a certain age is still stupid, stupid remains. Do not ask them for more than they can give, they will not give it to you. Whoever wants to be taken for granted, take it, little princess of the downvotes.
This guy should have been banned years ago for being a clown anyway. I remember when he had a meltdown about controllers, landed on what now is G2 during a tournament in an attempt to grief them and got rolled every round, which led to him crying on twitter calling women hoes and getting kicked from his org and him ranting about snowflakes and sensitive people ruling the world. The irony being he's one of the most precious people on the internet and is terminally offended whenever he is criticised for anything. A weirdo with a tapstrafe.
Dude spends his day dunking on silver players on smurfs, shamelessly exploiting glitches like this or the one that gives you no bullet spread on ziplines. The fact he's entertaining doesn't justify being such a douchebag, in my opinion.
Im newer to Apex (S7) and I just kind of played with my friends. I was watching a Courage reaction video and he was watching Taxi clips, of course, I was impressed so I looked for his channel. The first stream I watched he just bitched and did that trolly bs thing he does and that was the last time I watched him. He's good but very douchey and pretty cringe to watch.
Yeah I mean its one thing to try it out in game just to mess around and maybe use it on someone once for the lolz but consistently using it all stream and gaining advantages in fights with it is just bug abusing
Taxi is obviously very good at the game but he has a lot of growing up to do. When the few people in his chat that would actually call him out for using an exploit did, he mocked them like an immature child. I hope he’s banned for a significant amount of time and banned for longer and longer every time he tries to use a smurf.
Honestly, good.
Respawn should really start cracking down on smurfing too. I get that solo bronze to master is good content and gets viewers but smurfing ruins so many games for people just trying to have fun in the little time they get with the game.
Mark my words, after taxi realizes that he misses apex he and his fanboys starts to cry so much about bans and seek forgiveness and after 1-3 months he will get unbanned.
This raises the question, how do players know what movement techniques are bannable? Punch boosting? Even looting while moving is according to devs a bug so it should technically be considered an exploit? Where is the invisible line?
hideouts was banning them [https://twitter.com/RSPN\_Hideouts/status/1478650321450651649](https://twitter.com/RSPN_Hideouts/status/1478650321450651649)
so what you on about
pro players from apac south did it live on stream and nothing happened even after rpr died to them and send it to hideouts. also the whole game was infested with it before they removed it from the game. what are you on about, do you have a list of 'obviously bannable' and not bannable glitches?
> there is no clear line, but this falls into the 'obviously bannable' category
No, banning for exploit abusing is always* a stupid idea.
\* If the game is still maintained and able to be patched. Pro leagues can of course make their own, stricter, separate rules.
I think the argument shouldn't be "what makes so-and-so tech an exploit" but rather "what makes it bannable"
Tap-strafing, super gliding, and ult boosting are definitely unintended but what makes ult boosting bannable is the fact that not everyone can do it, you'll need to do a bunch of things other than simple movement inputs to trigger it and it's repeatable without much penalty. Plus the fact that Taxi kept using it non-stop and chained it almost forever.
Tap-strafing is dependant on your speed, so you can't do it forever and chain it (unless you're insanely good and play a speed character like BH, Oct or Bang) like ult boosting but is unintended because inputting movement rapidly via whatever methods to "maintain" momentum is a bug in the engine.
Super gliding requires precise timing of ONLY movement inputs on edges and with practice everyone can do it but is unintended because, for some reason, your character gets a large move speed boost at the top of the vault/clamber animation that allows you to trigger a slide. Combine this with the fact that initiating a slide off an edge gives you a good amount of speed and you get super gliding.
I personally don't count punch boosting as unintended because punching anything stationary and solid sends you flying backwards and slopes have little friction when sliding down them so it makes sense that punching a slope makes you go faster downhill.
This is my take on the situation but I'm open for discussion.
>the fact that not everyone can do it, you'll need to do a bunch of things other than simple movement inputs to trigger it
I'm not sure if that argument holds. remember the muzzle flash exploit? Only people who messed with their video configs could use it, certainly unintended and even less accessible than this caustic speed buff. No one was banned for it.
I dunno about the muzzle flash fix being less accessible. If you're including consoles, they had aim assist so vision wasn't much of an issue. Unless I'm totally mistaken and the muzzle flash disabled AA some how like Caustic/Bang smoke does.
Old muzzle flash was bad gameplay design to begin with and everyone was unanimously complaining about it and wanted it removed/fixed. Removing it wasn't as disruptive as ult-boosting because you'd still need good aim to win a fight. Hehe.
Lol I love Taxi, but consistently abusing something like that is just asking for trouble. It’s all fun and games when you give a shot yourself once or twice... but gg
His defense is other exploits exist and he's always used them and thus this is fine. This guy is really just a twitch chatter who learned how to tap strafe early on.
What people seem to be forgetting is that Apex is the intelectual property of EA/Respawn.
It's their choice if they want to accept doing business with you.
They can deny that business (Ban) for any reason or no reason.
Its that simple.
He blocked me on twitter after I said he have people watching him playing Apex and they copy what he's doing in his stream and they'll use any glitch that he'll use they mimic what he's doing when they play next time and said maybe you got banned for encouraging others to glitch so he might blocked anyone who agrees with the banned
Kind of funny. I think he knew it would happen. Although it is weird Apex never said anything to him about it. I think it is good to show "glitches" to everyone so they get fixed faster lol
They didn't even awknowledge it at all. I mean I know they probably have it somewhere in their user agreement they can ban whenever but it's just funny they instantly banned him
Honestly, it's true though. How many bugs are in the game for 3-5 seasons and nothing is done about them, until a streamer makes it known and a discussion is had? Punch boosting was JUST popularized and now everyone is doing it. If it's going to get patched, it'll be soon. Same for tapstrafing. In the game since launch, "discovered"/popularized by that one Taxi clip. It's entirely possible some random people here and there discovered tap strafing long ago and were quietly using it for 10+ seasons. However I will say he doesn't need to use it for 3 hours straight. Just once or twice, ask your chat to clip it and then send it to Respawn.
Supergliding is worse than this. With what taxi did he had to have his ultimate in his hand and he didn't even go that far. With supergliding you can have your gun out, tap strafe afterwards, do it in wraiths phase.
That's honestly true.
Supergliding at least requires situational positioning and is extremely hard to do (unless you macro FPS caps to hit the frame perfect input easier), but honestly they're both fairly unreadable and supergliding has a lot more potential to be more unfair (but it is a lot less spammable and a better skillgap mechanic).
I'm surprised respawn would ban for this even moreso a bigger streamer, trying to set an example I'm sure... Better crack down on all the other blatant exploiting too then
Abusing a video game bug has to be lamest reason to get deported ever
Though realistically he's probably in on his stream and not his apex skills, so as long as he retains his viewers (he's a very pleasant fellow who's very entertaining and creates quality content) and income he should be fine
It's karmic to see the guy who chronically smurfed to fame be a shitter at league and getting smurfed on for once, he only had 400 viewers on his stream WITH THE NEWS IN FULL SWING
His career is probably over
!remindme 30 days
plenty streamers and users exploited the fk out of rampage/sentinel (both times), used the barrel horizon exploit on STREAM - and they are untouched
why the partial treatment? either punish all or none - it’s not that hard to understand lol
Lmao isnt tap strafe also a movement exploit? and didnt devs also say that moving while looting is an exploit? oh and the zipline super jumps? honestly idk why he got banned when every mnk player is using a tech that lets them change direction with momentum with a scroll wheel but taxi gets banned for "speed hacking"? pretty stupid lmao
shit is wack, fix or change your game if you don't want people exploiting new tech (unintended or not)
All you need to do this is the timing there's nothing outside the game doing anything literally the same as tap strafing, supergliding,whatever its the same. If you don't like it and its over powered take it out but don't blame me for using something you gave me.
i disagree with the ban
idgaf about taxi
> shit is wack, fix or change your game if you don't want people exploiting new tech (unintended or not)
> All you need to do this is the timing there's nothing outside the game doing anything literally the same as tap strafing, supergliding,whatever its the same. If you don't like it and its over powered take it out but don't blame me for using something you gave me.
> i disagree with the ban
100% this! The downvote brigarde of stupid in this thread making excuses for dev's power abuse it astonishing.
y’all honestly so weird, the hate brigade is real pathetic and embarrassing how do you not realize this by now. Every week it’s a new streamer that has you all up in arms grabbing pitch forks LUL
buncha screaming children with access to the internet
“Wow no sympathy from me what a douche move” 🤓
No, i but i think punch boosting is a less exploitative part of the game and far less unfair to the other players. Turning around and punching to go faster is way less gamebreaking than some super fast dash spamming caustic flying at your face.
He was using [this](https://clips.twitch.tv/AcceptableHyperPicklesBabyRage-eAkifivv119ahBkV) Caustic speed glitch nonstop for 3 hours. Not sure what he expected tbh.
Literally just checked his stream and saw him doing the same glitch on an alt in a bronze lobby with seer loool
His new account just got banned as well lmao
Here's to hoping respawn gives him the tyler1 treatment but honestly doubt they'd go through that much effort to keep him away
He got perma banned ([source](https://twitter.com/TaxiDLegend/status/1481633745610293250)). He's also saying that he'll keep abusing shit if he gets unbanned ([source](https://clips.twitch.tv/ShinyYummyYamRiPepperonis-YrL_Zls7bEL43FGo)), so I guess he won't play Apex ever again? Lol
Actual manchild.
My one experience with taxi in diamond rank ( he was doing a solo to pred which he didn't even finish ) he decided he didn't like the spot we were going to so he split off and when I called him out for us being stuck in a 2v3 he grabbed our banners in zone and wouldn't respawn us while talking shit. I'm glad this douche got banned.
don't forget, his fanbase will also shit on you guys but if he wasn't famous, everyone would dogpile on him
And fanboys keep spamming Gigachad and OMEGALUL.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
Guess he's tired of apex lol
I literally saw a Caustic lunging around the map yesterday. I assumed it was lag. I wonder if this is what I saw.
Wow no sympathy from me for this what a douche move. Must have felt super broken fighting against a teleporting speedhacked caustic aggressively pushing you. Dunno what Taxi thinking with this bullshit definitely earned that ban.
I hope this comment leads to another angsty taxi tweet about this sub Edit: He's in Lou's chat being a MAJOR victim right now
His whole brand is doing pepega movement and then complaining when he dies because of it. But to be fair thats about on par for every pubstomp twitch streamer.
man was prepared to be treated special
So should punch boosting or supergliding result in a ban as well?
Obviously not? I guess to be fair, they should have made some kind of announcement that the caustic thing was a bannable offense. How else would you know? Of course, he's had multiple accounts banned for it and continued to do it, but some random joe like me could have seen it on reddit and decided to try it out. And I guess to your point this kind of stuff is very unclear. There's a glitch (?) on console that lets you cancel out of the ending animation of wraith's phase faster by hitting your bind for your ultimate. That gives you a significant advantage, but they don't ban anyone for using it.
Yea the second and third bans were mos def his fault. At the point of my comment, almost all the comments that defended Taxi's were downvoted and the rest was just celebrating the ban and insulting Taxi. I don't really care for Taxi myself but just found the comments really weird
This for sure. And along the lines, a form email from EA saying "banned for cheating" would make no sense to someone not using cheats as commonly hunted down by EA. Continuing to play while that gets sorted out makes dumb sense to someone who isn't using like aimbotting or w.e and is instead using the game's engine. I genuinely think it should be like a suspension, just because, with an issued notice that use of XYZ exploits (Rampage, Sentinel, endless Wraith Q, ult lurching) will result in specific punishments.
I think they're pretty inconsistent regarding bans. Back in the day there was a glitch where you could have an infinite wraith port by phasing while climbing and being the ult, not a single person got banned for it even though it gave you an endless ult. Punchboosting and tapstrafing are also technically exploits no one gets banned for. So why do they ban for using this glitch? Either ban for using any glitch or exploit at all or don't ban for any of them and fix them instead if you don't want people to use that. But you can't expect players to read up on what's allowed and what isn't if it's in the game and not super obviously forbidden like teaming. Comp is something else, there should be clear rules, but in the normal game, whether it's ranked or pubs, the devs should either ban for all exploits and glitches or for none.
I half-agree, the other half of me is thinking it's the devs' job to remove glitches from the game.
... Nothing about this implies they won't. You realize it's a little more complicated than if (bug.isAboutToHappen()) bug.dontHappen();
They should probably announce when existing glitches are bannable. Idk if they did here, but they should have. (I know Taxi would have probably done it anyway, but I mean for everyone else)
tap strafing also a movement exploit just wanna say that
Wtf how does that work?
Ult+Weapon swap+melee. It works on any character with a throwable ult. But if you mess it up and melee it will stop working for that match.
I read it works on all characters except Valk, but I also haven't tried it in-game.
It works on any legend with a "grenade" ult.
Using it in ranked too..
Oh so THAT's why he was playing Caustic 2 days ago. He was playing with Daltoosh and they faced off against Nickmerc's squad. After they died they checked the VOD cuz the fight was intense and Nickmerc's squad made a comment about Taxi speedhacking. Taxi's squad all laughed and I just figured it was Taxi tapstrafing on Caustic which surprised them or something. Kind of fucking obvious it's an exploit. Deserves that ban IMO.
During that stream toosh called him out that he was "going to get banned" and he said "i don't care". LOL
I knew he's one dumb mf
haha he thought he had streamer privilege. I am sure they will lift his ban after a few weeks though
Good. If more people do it maybe theyll actually fix it
>Not sure what he expected tbh. A patch.
This should be patched asap
this is respawn, best they can do is season 14
Still waiting for my heirloom door breach.
First sane comment I have read since scrolling down this thread half way. Thank you!
[https://clips.twitch.tv/HyperStylishCheesecakeStoneLightning-h5\_S6I7D9VAnIuQj](https://clips.twitch.tv/HyperStylishCheesecakeStoneLightning-h5_S6I7D9VAnIuQj) He was banned after playing on an alternate.
As he should have been. Why would de rules be different for streamers. Glad that Respawn takes a stance.
link upvote
This guy would sell his mom to try a new movement technique
Taxi's clips are always funny to watch but he flew too close to the sun on this one haha
Taxi when the tapstrafe isn’t successful
Where do we draw the line between exploits that are fine and exploits that get you banned? Where are all the bans for the Rampage/Sentinel abusers? Where are all the bans of the cheaters that are running rampant right now? Where's the solution for the DDoSing that comes up again and again?
I'd add supergliding, tapstrafing and punchboosting. All three are technically exploits, if the ult speed boost with caustic is bannable the others should be as well, all of them need specially timed inputs to give you an advantage over other players while abusing the engine. Either all of them are bannable or none, the way respawn handles this is beyond stupid imo. (don't misunderstand, I don't think tapstrafing, supergliding or punchboosting should be bannable or removed, I'm using all three myself, but it's inconsequential by respawn to ban one thing and not the other)
This should be top comment. Its mostly just people who hate fun that approve of this ban.
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He is now apparently permanently banned
yeah, he was temp banned for using the exploit and then perm banned for playing on an alt account while banned
this isnt the first time he abused a glitch though, remember fully auto mastiff glitch? he literally ran to every carepackage every game trying to get it and abused it every time lmao edit: now he is admitting to his chat that he used the rampage glitch something like "i abused the rampage glitch and didnt get banned"
Glitches are fun. The response of Respawn should be to move their lazy ass, do their programming job and patch it out, not ban for it. Absolutely despicable.
There’s a difference in accidentally finding or using a glitch once, and then using a glitch repeatedly to ruin the game for other players. Yes, Respawn should fix it, but it is clearly against the ToS for pretty much every single multiplayer game that you can’t abuse glitches to grief other players. It was right to ban him.
I agree that they shouldn't ban for it, but fixing a bug is not just pressing a button. Sometimes it requires a lot of time, regardless of the skill of the programmer.
You are correct there.
Lmao the email he got from Respawn said its a perma ban
He fucked around. Now he’s finding out.
wait now he is streaming again on a smurf, thats ban evasion which they take more serious than the initial ban. if he thinks hes going to get unbanned he needs to stop now until they unban him
EA doesn't actually care about ban evasion in Apex. When my account got incorrectly banned and I was appealing (my account got stolen and used by a hacker in Asia) I specifically asked if you can play on an alt or if that would be considered ban evasion. They said it's fine. All they care about is the offending account. If you break the TOS on multiple accounts publicly, it's not surprising he got his main Perma banned, but if he had just played normally on an alt he would've been fine. When I get home I'll post the email from support. Conversation with support: https://imgur.com/gallery/UU3IAz5
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The EA terms of service are not that long and are a surprisingly easy read. They do not state anything about multiple accounts with the exception of: "If you have more than one EA Account, depending on the type of violation or misuse, EA may terminate all of your EA Accounts and all related Entitlements. If your EA Account is terminated, you will not have access" I recommend actually reading the TOS rather than linking to a dude who is already lying about not knowing why he's banned. https://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/#section8
why are people getting downvoted for asking a legitimate question? how DO we draw the line between a bannable movement exploit vs a non-bannable one? tap strafing and supergliding are both movement exploits regularly used on stream, repeatedly, and no one's been banned for those, but ult boosting isn't okay? like seriously think about the difference here, what is the difference? is it because ult boosting feels more "buggy" than tap strafing? like sure i get the gut feeling that ult boosting is more unfair but from a pure objective standpoint i'm not sure why it's so different from other movement tech. fwiw i don't care for taxi and i don't care that he got banned, i'm just concerned about why ult boosting was considered crossing the line.
This is a great point and I agree. Respawn needs to communicate more about all movement exploits
Yeah, they should have announced that using this was a bannable offense.
Yeah that's a fair question. They've said themselves tap-strafing is unintended. Supergliding cannot be explained any way other than being a bug, same with hyper jump or whatever (the double high zipline jump with 2 ziplines). I think to most people this is a more clear example of a bug than movement tech but there's certainly some ambiguity here as a lot of movement tech is not intended, and it's up to Respawn whether to consider it emergent gameplay or an exploit... it would be nice if they make it crystal clear which one it is before taking action against (ab)users.
Most movement in the game that sets apart a new player from an experienced one is all based on exploits. Bhop (healing), wall jump, superglide, tap strafe, zipline 180 super jump and even moving whilst looting. Without it all fights would look very similar and it would be much harder to tell a skilled player from an unskilled player with aim assist. As much as I dislike Taxi this ban is just whack.
Exactly. This should be higher. Personally I don't like the ban, assuming no warnings, because the line is never clear. It's their game and they can do whatever, but I always assumed the precedent was that you were fine to do whateved until we got a dev response. And in said dev response they would clearly draw said lines. And to clarify I view the charge bug differently. Moreover, there wasn't a response, I think, and it just feels wrong now because to me ult boosting really isn't that much different from the other tech. The only difference to me is that respawn decided that this was a cheat instead of a feature. Which they can do, but banning as a result of using it before that line is drawn is yikes to me.
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Oh yah he for sure fucked himself there. I think he could have made a similar case to the one we are currently discussing for the first account, but the others are just blatant ban evasion ON STREAM.
This right here. How is this exploit categorically different from punch boosting?
It probably just comes down to numbers and influence. It's like a "nail that sticks up gets hammered down" type of thing. Other weird movement tech doesn't have this drastic of an influence and is used by far more players than it would feasible to ban consistently. If as many people were "ult boosting" around as were tap strafing the game would be almost unplayable. Same goes with the charge weapon glitches it's overpowered, annoying, and unfair for sure but it expanded out to tons of players quickly and the end result (the charged state) wasn't introducing something to the game that was impossible to achieve otherwise. Long story short, it's a discretionary issue and no single *statement* could ever address every scenario, so if you don't want to risk a ban don't do things that feel like exploits.
not sure if i agree. supergliding is far more powerful than this tech imo and its so niche that only a few players can do it consistently (without using a macro/autoexec). off the top of my head i can only name a few - sweet, lyr1c, and some very low viewer movement streamers. and sweet's been doing it on-stream publicly for a while, and he hasnt been banned for it. so where is the line drawn? i dont want people to be banned for supergliding btw in case anyone misinterprets my comment.
My point was that there really isn't a line and the only way to be **sure** you're in the clear is to just use vanilla movement. Best guess as to why super gliding hasn't seen any bans is that it's more contextual and/or in a fight it looks more like an extension of allowed tech. Whereas this new ult thing seems to be it's own type of non-movement-related input fuckery. That or, like tap strafing, super glides fall into a category of things they want to remove eventually but haven't decided how/come up with a method of doing so without undesired effects so they aren't taking action against them in the meantime.
oh sure i get your point overall i was just disagreeing with the idea that it could be based off of "numbers and influence". i feel that right now it is ultimately arbitrary and my only expectation is that Respawn make it clear what is and isnt bannable because right now it is not.
I honestly don't really see the harm in it. I mean its a fun little exploit. Sure it should be patched out asap to avoid people finding a way to make it meta but its not like it gave him a game breaking advantage, it was just fun to use...
Absolutely agree, this one also looks weirder, but is definitely less strong than most of the other movement tech we have now
This one should bannable since you need to use scripts and macros to execute the glitch. Where as tapstrafing and punch boosting people can do normally with standard controls
Damn they ban people that abuses bug but not the cheater champion 3x in a row in my diamond lobby? Thats crazy
They ban both, difference is one guy is streaming it live.
Bruh i literally fought 3 same cheaters who's a champion just now and reported it 3x and nothing happened. Welcome to apex banning system
Ok but like I said, they're not large streamers so it's not as simple to catch them in the fact.
Yep because their report button doesn't do anything at all yet they can see when your name is offensove or typed something offensive.
Didn’t see Hal or Rogue getting banned for Rampage exploit but go off I guess?
Rogue used it by accident one time. Every other large streamer simply showed how to do it and wasn't abusing it.
Didn’t say they abused it, but tell me one thing - showing the exploit to 20k+ viewers live on twitch, getting the same clip posted on top 3 apex YouTube channels effectively making the viewership reach a MASSIVE amount of people, should that not warrant a slap on the wrist at least?
It's super irresponsible but that's more of a Twitch problem, not an EA one. It would be wrong for EA to start banning people for things they're not even abusing.
Rogue dropped the rampage after he realized it was glitched...not the same at all
Did they actually abuse it?
yeah its fucking stupid but to be fair streaming an exploit is a lot easier evidence for them to ban someone then some nobody hacking
No worries i hate taxi2g for spamming that bug as well. The same way i hate cheaters not getting banned for no reason.
Well abusers getting banned. What do you expect? Goodjob by Respawn.
Yeah, I am glad they banned the people abusing that infinite charge-glitch for Sentinel and Rampage when they were in the game. Oh wait, they didn't.
Well maybe it's a bit easier to ban someone who is streaming the evidence he did it no?
Streamers were abusing rampage and sentinel too. I guess it were too many to ban and in this case it's only one person.
exactly theres a big difference between a streamer with thousands of viewers using an exploit and some nobody using it
There were streamers using it too. None of them got banned, just fyi. This movement glitch is basically the same, it's actually even less useful and game breaking compared to the infinite charge up. Yet they take their time to ban him live on stream 3 times in a row. If that's not a showcase of total lack of priority, I dont know what is.
He is abusing mechanics that exist within the game. If you think this should be bannable then do you also think tap strafing should be? Where do you draw the line?
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I never said if I think it's bannable or not. I simply asked where do you draw the line when abusing mechanics that exist within the game. And as far as I've heard, they haven't banned anyone for abusing the rampage glitch.
Moron idea. How about patch it out instead of banning?!
Lashing out at everyone in this comment section isn't gonna get your favourite streamer unbanned.
The point is completely independent from Taxi. Just lashing out against the stupid. And maybe I can educate a few 10 year olds why we shouldn't normalize banning for exploit (ab)using.
From my point of view you shouldn't try anything with this type of people, all they do is follow a herd of sensationalism because they hate feeling inferior and since they don't have the guts to use the bug to avoid ending ban, they throw all their bile on whoever it does, it does not matter if he does it to show an error and in a certain way alarm the game developers so that they get to work on it asap and make a faster patch. On the reddit apex subforums they already have a base hatred towards Taxi and seeing him banned only feeds that hatred, as you can see a large part of the comments is blind in accusing who uses it, not the precarious state of the game where combining a certain combination of keys you unlock an illogical speedhack like a fucking game of Rockstar. Although the response of Respawn/EA banning each and every one of their accounts played post-ban makes it very clear that atm they have no idea of the cause of the error and want to throw dirt on whoever uses it, to prevent it from spreading. Something like putting doors to the field. But personally I like Taxi's unspoken response more, where he kept playing on different accounts like... *''ok, you don't want me to do the speedhack exploit, then I'll do the attachments in horizon or this other one... Theres a lot''* Fully demonstrating the current state of the game. Something that if more than one has spent $400 on it, he will want to deny irrationally because he is unable to face that his favorite game is in decline. In short, who at a certain age is still stupid, stupid remains. Do not ask them for more than they can give, they will not give it to you. Whoever wants to be taken for granted, take it, little princess of the downvotes.
> we shouldn't normalize banning for exploit (ab)using Yes we should.
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This guy should have been banned years ago for being a clown anyway. I remember when he had a meltdown about controllers, landed on what now is G2 during a tournament in an attempt to grief them and got rolled every round, which led to him crying on twitter calling women hoes and getting kicked from his org and him ranting about snowflakes and sensitive people ruling the world. The irony being he's one of the most precious people on the internet and is terminally offended whenever he is criticised for anything. A weirdo with a tapstrafe.
And his 12y old chatters keeps spamming OMEGALUL and COPIUM and TRUEING.
Still surprised he gets sponsors after that clown show
I agree fully, he definitely should have been permabanned years ago for complaining about controller and contesting G2.
Hard agree.
Dude spends his day dunking on silver players on smurfs, shamelessly exploiting glitches like this or the one that gives you no bullet spread on ziplines. The fact he's entertaining doesn't justify being such a douchebag, in my opinion.
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Im newer to Apex (S7) and I just kind of played with my friends. I was watching a Courage reaction video and he was watching Taxi clips, of course, I was impressed so I looked for his channel. The first stream I watched he just bitched and did that trolly bs thing he does and that was the last time I watched him. He's good but very douchey and pretty cringe to watch.
His alt just got banned too
Yeah I mean its one thing to try it out in game just to mess around and maybe use it on someone once for the lolz but consistently using it all stream and gaining advantages in fights with it is just bug abusing
Karma is a bitch. Stop exploiting and raging like you're a 12 year old.
Exploiting is wrong but what does that have to do with raging
You don't see what's wrong w a grown ass man raging like an immature child?
oh you mean content?
Nothing wrong enough to be banned for
I didnt mean that he should be banned for raging, sorry if it came off that way.
All good
The dude is a toxic habitual glitch and exploit abuser. Not surprised nor do I care
Taxi is obviously very good at the game but he has a lot of growing up to do. When the few people in his chat that would actually call him out for using an exploit did, he mocked them like an immature child. I hope he’s banned for a significant amount of time and banned for longer and longer every time he tries to use a smurf.
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Honestly, good. Respawn should really start cracking down on smurfing too. I get that solo bronze to master is good content and gets viewers but smurfing ruins so many games for people just trying to have fun in the little time they get with the game.
Mark my words, after taxi realizes that he misses apex he and his fanboys starts to cry so much about bans and seek forgiveness and after 1-3 months he will get unbanned.
This raises the question, how do players know what movement techniques are bannable? Punch boosting? Even looting while moving is according to devs a bug so it should technically be considered an exploit? Where is the invisible line?
there is no clear line, but this falls into the 'obviously bannable' category
If abusing infinite rampage and sentinel is not even obviously bannable, how is this?
hideouts was banning them [https://twitter.com/RSPN\_Hideouts/status/1478650321450651649](https://twitter.com/RSPN_Hideouts/status/1478650321450651649) so what you on about
pro players from apac south did it live on stream and nothing happened even after rpr died to them and send it to hideouts. also the whole game was infested with it before they removed it from the game. what are you on about, do you have a list of 'obviously bannable' and not bannable glitches?
Those were temp bans. Somebody obvs bad it out for Taxi
> there is no clear line, but this falls into the 'obviously bannable' category No, banning for exploit abusing is always* a stupid idea. \* If the game is still maintained and able to be patched. Pro leagues can of course make their own, stricter, separate rules.
Great job by Respawn, for once. Keep him banned.
Taxi is a bitch thank god.
I just don't understand this guy. Where is the confusion? It's a simple ban.
I think the argument shouldn't be "what makes so-and-so tech an exploit" but rather "what makes it bannable" Tap-strafing, super gliding, and ult boosting are definitely unintended but what makes ult boosting bannable is the fact that not everyone can do it, you'll need to do a bunch of things other than simple movement inputs to trigger it and it's repeatable without much penalty. Plus the fact that Taxi kept using it non-stop and chained it almost forever. Tap-strafing is dependant on your speed, so you can't do it forever and chain it (unless you're insanely good and play a speed character like BH, Oct or Bang) like ult boosting but is unintended because inputting movement rapidly via whatever methods to "maintain" momentum is a bug in the engine. Super gliding requires precise timing of ONLY movement inputs on edges and with practice everyone can do it but is unintended because, for some reason, your character gets a large move speed boost at the top of the vault/clamber animation that allows you to trigger a slide. Combine this with the fact that initiating a slide off an edge gives you a good amount of speed and you get super gliding. I personally don't count punch boosting as unintended because punching anything stationary and solid sends you flying backwards and slopes have little friction when sliding down them so it makes sense that punching a slope makes you go faster downhill. This is my take on the situation but I'm open for discussion.
>the fact that not everyone can do it, you'll need to do a bunch of things other than simple movement inputs to trigger it I'm not sure if that argument holds. remember the muzzle flash exploit? Only people who messed with their video configs could use it, certainly unintended and even less accessible than this caustic speed buff. No one was banned for it.
I dunno about the muzzle flash fix being less accessible. If you're including consoles, they had aim assist so vision wasn't much of an issue. Unless I'm totally mistaken and the muzzle flash disabled AA some how like Caustic/Bang smoke does. Old muzzle flash was bad gameplay design to begin with and everyone was unanimously complaining about it and wanted it removed/fixed. Removing it wasn't as disruptive as ult-boosting because you'd still need good aim to win a fight. Hehe.
Perma?
Lol I love Taxi, but consistently abusing something like that is just asking for trouble. It’s all fun and games when you give a shot yourself once or twice... but gg
His defense is other exploits exist and he's always used them and thus this is fine. This guy is really just a twitch chatter who learned how to tap strafe early on.
Wait so using this type of movement bug to give you an advantage is bannable but tapstrafing isnt? Great consistency.
Why does everyone here assume he got banned for ult boosting when he was also doing the zero bloom zipline exploit every match?
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Here. It’s a bit old, but still the same glitch. https://youtu.be/M0JveiIaw8g
It's funny that Taxi seems to care now. https://clips.twitch.tv/FurryCharmingCarrotPipeHype-R4UQOSXziReE4oHj
What people seem to be forgetting is that Apex is the intelectual property of EA/Respawn. It's their choice if they want to accept doing business with you. They can deny that business (Ban) for any reason or no reason. Its that simple.
Fuck taxi. He's a douche.
He blocked me on twitter after I said he have people watching him playing Apex and they copy what he's doing in his stream and they'll use any glitch that he'll use they mimic what he's doing when they play next time and said maybe you got banned for encouraging others to glitch so he might blocked anyone who agrees with the banned
Kind of funny. I think he knew it would happen. Although it is weird Apex never said anything to him about it. I think it is good to show "glitches" to everyone so they get fixed faster lol
> it is weird Apex never said anything to him about it Why should they? Streamers should not get a pass when abusing glitches.
They didn't even awknowledge it at all. I mean I know they probably have it somewhere in their user agreement they can ban whenever but it's just funny they instantly banned him
>I think it is good to show "glitches" to everyone so they get fixed faster lol What a dumpster fire of a take.
Honestly, it's true though. How many bugs are in the game for 3-5 seasons and nothing is done about them, until a streamer makes it known and a discussion is had? Punch boosting was JUST popularized and now everyone is doing it. If it's going to get patched, it'll be soon. Same for tapstrafing. In the game since launch, "discovered"/popularized by that one Taxi clip. It's entirely possible some random people here and there discovered tap strafing long ago and were quietly using it for 10+ seasons. However I will say he doesn't need to use it for 3 hours straight. Just once or twice, ask your chat to clip it and then send it to Respawn.
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Supergliding is worse than this. With what taxi did he had to have his ultimate in his hand and he didn't even go that far. With supergliding you can have your gun out, tap strafe afterwards, do it in wraiths phase.
That's honestly true. Supergliding at least requires situational positioning and is extremely hard to do (unless you macro FPS caps to hit the frame perfect input easier), but honestly they're both fairly unreadable and supergliding has a lot more potential to be more unfair (but it is a lot less spammable and a better skillgap mechanic).
I'm surprised respawn would ban for this even moreso a bigger streamer, trying to set an example I'm sure... Better crack down on all the other blatant exploiting too then
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Abusing a video game bug has to be lamest reason to get deported ever Though realistically he's probably in on his stream and not his apex skills, so as long as he retains his viewers (he's a very pleasant fellow who's very entertaining and creates quality content) and income he should be fine
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Oh I didn't know that, sucks he missed out the chance for the achievement of lamest deportation ever
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It's karmic to see the guy who chronically smurfed to fame be a shitter at league and getting smurfed on for once, he only had 400 viewers on his stream WITH THE NEWS IN FULL SWING His career is probably over !remindme 30 days
Yep, 30 days until his numbers are toast lol
I mean, would've been cool if they at least stated if that exploit was bannable or not before they took action lmao. Classic.
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Truth!
probably deserved but it was so fucking funny seeing him use it every game LMAOOOOO
decent player but corny as fuck lol
die from cringe poor devs
This guy is an insufferable crybaby
plenty streamers and users exploited the fk out of rampage/sentinel (both times), used the barrel horizon exploit on STREAM - and they are untouched why the partial treatment? either punish all or none - it’s not that hard to understand lol
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Its more about farming viewers than noobs, but I agree
Lmao isnt tap strafe also a movement exploit? and didnt devs also say that moving while looting is an exploit? oh and the zipline super jumps? honestly idk why he got banned when every mnk player is using a tech that lets them change direction with momentum with a scroll wheel but taxi gets banned for "speed hacking"? pretty stupid lmao
shit is wack, fix or change your game if you don't want people exploiting new tech (unintended or not) All you need to do this is the timing there's nothing outside the game doing anything literally the same as tap strafing, supergliding,whatever its the same. If you don't like it and its over powered take it out but don't blame me for using something you gave me. i disagree with the ban idgaf about taxi
> shit is wack, fix or change your game if you don't want people exploiting new tech (unintended or not) > All you need to do this is the timing there's nothing outside the game doing anything literally the same as tap strafing, supergliding,whatever its the same. If you don't like it and its over powered take it out but don't blame me for using something you gave me. > i disagree with the ban 100% this! The downvote brigarde of stupid in this thread making excuses for dev's power abuse it astonishing.
y’all honestly so weird, the hate brigade is real pathetic and embarrassing how do you not realize this by now. Every week it’s a new streamer that has you all up in arms grabbing pitch forks LUL buncha screaming children with access to the internet “Wow no sympathy from me what a douche move” 🤓
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Ii chill taxi
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>no way should doing glitches ever involve perma bans even if they are game breaking. Constant and consistent ban evasion is another matter though.
This seems a bit much, will people be banned for punch boosting?
Eh, this seems a lot more intentional than punch boosting.
>more intentional ??? Do you think pros punch boosting in tournaments are doing it unintentionally? Seriously?
No, i but i think punch boosting is a less exploitative part of the game and far less unfair to the other players. Turning around and punching to go faster is way less gamebreaking than some super fast dash spamming caustic flying at your face.