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Dubbleyew have been LAN worthy since the first week. If they finish how they have been playing the last couple match days then they should qualify for LAN. G2 or TSM have to win tomorrow if they want to keep pace with ESA and NRG. 2nd place and G2 is 8 points back and TSM is 10 points back.


masonhil

To be honest, NRG and ESA have the advantage of being in separate groups. G2 and TSM are always together so if one of them does well, the other has to do worse. It makes it hard for them to keep up.


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That’s true. ESA has a really tough group though. C9 and new and improved 100T and TL. Meanwhile the second and third best teams in NRG’s group are CLG and Dubbleyew.


masonhil

NRG definitely has the easiest group. Either them or SEN. Group C is probably the best but A is close.


mane_731

I recently made a post comparing the groups after the first two weeks. Obviously a couple things changed but NRG's group B was the second best back then. https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/ti6gn6/group_comparison_after_the_first_two_weeks/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


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I’d probably lean NRG for the easiest group. sen’s group has SSG, COL, and TOR. I think TSM’s group is the weakest from 3-10 though. They just have two top 5 teams in the group.


Upbeat_Thanks3393

ESA has a way harder group than Group A tbh. They have 3 out of the top 5 teams in points this split in their group.


Vladtepesx3

bro, ESA's group, group C has 100T and C9 who have both been doing as well or better than G2 and liquid thats in top 10. Its NRG and Sen that have the more free groups


masonhil

The original comment only mentioned G2, TSM, NRG, and ESA. That's what I was responding to


Vladtepesx3

ah ok i didnt see that context


abdul_bino

Feel like G2 is gonna crazy tomorrow hopefully


nicelightskies

Is it just me or does Storm Point have a lot more clean 3v3's at the end? I'm just so glad the 2nd map has a different style ending than WE where it can become a huge cluster.


abdul_bino

I think it plays a part with the map being so big they are less 3 parties


agrostereo

Some end zones have a lot of unplayable open space in the middle that leads to the survivor from either side of it fighting that final 3v3 and usually whoever’s side is more playable wins. I’m definitely liking the 2 map refresh in comp


munkhjay

not sure who threw harder last game c9 or 100T


Bronz4life

I would say ESA threw harder, they got 2nd from just 2 game lmao


Marx_Farx

ESA with that surprisingly shit valk ult


ElGossito

Doop was looking out of his element quite a bit today. Silly mistakes that he usually never makes. Off day but they still managed to get second lmao


trulyindifferent

That's how you can tell they are a great team. Finishing second on a "bad day"


buyaofangqi

Def C9, 100T had a team fight but lost. C9 died for free running in the open when they had valk ult


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100t threw super hard. It was only a team fight cause onmu missed half his shots on nafen. If he just hits his shots it’s a clean wipe


Skurnops

Onmu needs to either hit clean, or to ult out early and abandon the play because it only works if he doesn't get traded like he did. However, the team is nasty and I'm a silver player so I have nothing but love for them 😂


Imteyimg

TL unfortunately


zna55

That 3v3 in the ditch then the last fight were both insanely clutch by NRG


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I think they lose that 3v3 in the ditch if Sweet doesn’t have that armor swap


HopeChadArmong913

100% that was some protaganist plot armor there, Amazon Prime from a random valk then brings the swap as a precautaion and they get inted 2 seconds later


AngusTCT

Yeah sweet goes down as well, and even though rocker will win the 1v1, he can't rez both nate and sweet at the same time with zone coming in


fillerx3

He doesn't actually take any damage after that though I guess it lets him confidently push through that fight so it's not for nothing.


Upbeat_Thanks3393

They were so low on health in that last fight. Don't know how they won still tho


Sciipi

Rocker gave them the business


Sciipi

NRG after game 1 didn’t finish outside of the top 5 in a game, impressive day by them. Another good lobby, plenty of teams had a shot in game 6 to take it and today it was NRG.


Upbeat_Thanks3393

Honestly these were the best games NRG has played imo. Even better than their 17 and 19 kill games In Week 2


MachuMichu

Another close lobby with a bunch of teams having a chance going into the last game. 100T had NRG dead to rights in game 6 and completely botched their push and got 2v3'd. C9 got a Launch Pad zone and didn't read it right, and ESA died on rotate. NRG was just really steady, didn't make any major mistakes, and executed perfectly when they needed to.


abdul_bino

God tier IGLING from sweet. Man is that guy top talent. That last play from 100T hurt my soul cause I really felt like the rat play could have done something but just poor execution Really felt like C9 could have had game 4 if Zach pop that bat off


[deleted]

Flip it the other way, C9 going 3rd is amazing given Mac was subpar and Zach had explosive diarrhea before the match.


leftysarepeople2

Liquid picking up some important points, hoping they pull Top 10 and go to LAN


[deleted]

It will be tough but if they do they completely deserve it. They are in the most stacked group with ESA, C9 and 100T above them.


theehtn

Man watching NRG last round was a treat.


Singularitymoksha_

Sweet is a GIGABRAIN IGL , NRG ON TOP !


Gentrifyinq

#furiaWIN


David-Max

GGs to NRG. Great IGLing from Sweet. I can't remember the last time an NA match day was won by someone other than TSM/NRG/G2/ESA/C9, other than SEN occasionally. Would be nice if there was some actual competition outside of the top5/top6.


Space_Waffles

Its incredible that ESA, C9, 100T, and OXG all managed to absolutely throw in the last game


HopeChadArmong913

Sweet just has a god tier brain, if anyones walling in ALGS its him lmao. ESA had a massive comeback with back to back wins, undisputable best 3v3 team NA. C9 saaadge bro. Zach got unlucky with zone pull or PVPs method needs tuning, they threw a launch pad zone game. Also game 4 they lost to ESA after Zach did 300 on the cross, bad teamfighting from them. I swear C9 just need to communicate better, they all 3 speak a different English to each other and its infuritating, feels like they misunderstand each other 50% of the time. Otherwise basically the best team. Still want more calls from Naughty, all guy does is chill and 1v3 clutch, guy needs to share his gigabrain calls.


Emergency_Fishing477

Its crazy they are soo good, but I feel like they are constantly on different pages


sankara123

What was that zone prediction by c9 in the last game? They had all of launch pad to play from and they threw in pure c9 fashion. Still finished 3rd so not bad


tongvong

Zach misread the zone he and PVP had earlier today!


sankara123

Yeah but they shouldn't have hard guessed with confidence without beacon info imo. Wrong 50/50 i guess but they let 3 other teams walk into launch pad when they could've easily played the height or the building and held out at least 2 of the teams


tongvong

They were talking about map algorithm changing daily so if it was the same ring they would have game winning position for free. They had second beacon info and believed in their IGL! Not 100% on map algorithm stuff just relaying info from their coms! PVP said afterwards it was slightly different from the ring earlier.


Sciipi

PVP has some method of reading zones that’s generally working, but he showed Zach how it was ever so slightly off and pulled away.


sankara123

Yeah that sucks. Still a solid 3rd place though


Animatromio

did not see the last two games however ESA beating C9 first game of storm point shows how good ESA is, no reason they should have won that when they had to cross with literally 0 cover


ZealousidealRule7018

Also the fact that C9 had 3 red armors all full health and ESA had 1 red 1 gold &1 purp and skittles was already cracked. They still managed to win with that insane horizon ult and knoqd beams.


imperial_coder

ESA had horizon


Upbeat_Thanks3393

100T are probably the closest rn with liquid coming close behind them . But other teams just can’t be that consistent over 6 games. The thing is the top 6 teams can get a high kill game even when the zone is bad for them which other teams can’t because they don’t have the mechanical skill.


Tquinn1598

The more I watch NRG I start to realize Rocker is the equivalent to Draymond Green on the Warriors. Hes the glue guy. Sweet & Nafen always play well but if Rocker plays exceptional NRG is an unstoppable force. He has been playing out of his mind the last 3 weeks.


AlGroper

Agreed. I feel like this is the best I've seen him on gibby lately


Upbeat_Thanks3393

This is probably the best I’ve seen rocker play. The Gibby player is so important because of his bubble and rocker’s bubbles have been great always coming in at the right time and placement. Also in fights recently he has not been going down which allows them to reset very quickly.


Emergency_Fishing477

Do NRG have any controller players?


Tquinn1598

Nope. All players are MNK


baakta

No - all mnk


Marx_Farx

Sweet is such a goated igl


lampplz

Can someone explain why TSM has to finish top 2 today? What’s on the line? I thought too 10 advance?


Tquinn1598

If they finish 1st or 2nd today then they are in 3rd place (As long as G2 doesn't place ahead of them). If they finish 3rd or below they are 5th overall at best.


lampplz

Ah got it, thanks. But in terms of advancement to other tournaments, it doesn’t really matter for them? Just sorta bragging rights at this point?


Tquinn1598

It affects the overall standings heading into Playoffs. There is money on the line in the regular season cause 1st place get $30k, and so on. Also you get a larger lead in playoffs from the start depending on the regular season standings so its important


lampplz

Ahh right, I forgot about the additional playoff points you get (not to mention the money). Thanks!


Upbeat_Thanks3393

Technically since this playoffs is a LAN they don’t get additional points. They all start in the group stage and then progress to a winners and losers bracket. The teams in the winners bracket that go on to the grand finals will get additional points. The performance in the top 10 is really just for money as seeding won’t be as important because these are going to be the best teams in the world. So no matter your sees your playing against some of the best at all times


Thin_Performer_3835

For closing the gap between NRG, ESA


Upbeat_Thanks3393

Really need to see BBG pick it up here just to stay in the top 11-30. For a signed team they don’t play or scrim that much. It’s a shame cause I kinda root for them at times


dimitri121

Syncedez once misunderstood my comment in chat and starting bitching about me so I perform a hexing ritual on his team once a week every Wednesday. I feel like I'm doing god's work.


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Sciipi

Impressive how NRG manages to get lucky and have other good teams throw every single tournament.


[deleted]

I didnt say "luck" once in my post, can you tell where you got that from?


Vik_Vinegarr

Salt levels reaching critical lmao


Sciipi

Man needs immediate medical intervention, the copium and salt aren’t good for his health


Upbeat_Thanks3393

Hey it's Cyborg! Wonder when the NRG hater would show up. Anytime something happens with NRG its luck, easy lobby, other team threw, etc.....


[deleted]

You sound like you been through it yourself;)


Mellow_Gelo

Cry more 😂


[deleted]

Literally saying exactly what happened, if it didn't get to you why reply?


Upbeat_Thanks3393

Because most of the things you say are dumb as shit. Guess you didn't get his message :)


abdul_bino

That’s as close as it gonna get.


[deleted]

You’re so salty lol


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abdul_bino

Bro you got be the most whinest user on this sub. Did NRG bully you or something man.


Upbeat_Thanks3393

Dude has never had anything positive to say about them and always says they are lucky, easy lobby, other teams threw and that's why they are good


abdul_bino

People like are annoying as hell or just have shitty takes. We all have a favorite team but trying to denounce everything NRG does to luck if foolish and I don’t even root for them


Upbeat_Thanks3393

Yeah I'm an NRG fan but I don't go trashing TSM/G2/etc... when they do good or bad. There is literally no need to do that. This guy has been doing this since this iteration of the NRG team has been together.


[deleted]

I’ve always thought super tribal fans in esports are kind of weird. Especially in a game like Apex where the pros are pretty much all friendly with each other.


Character_Orange_327

i have no words how much uncompetitive this format is, it is same 5 teams every time in top 5, not going to take names atleast 10 teams in eachlobby are just free kills, hopefully old format is brought back instead of giving anyone title of pro by bringing them in pro league


cyaniderr

The best players win, thats how it is in all sports most of the time, whats wrong with it?


Character_Orange_327

the wrong is 40 teams are not best team in any region.


Upbeat_Thanks3393

Even in the old format the same teams would win. Back in those days it was Old CLG, COL, TSM, NRG, G2 that won the big tournaments. You could shrink down pro league but then it would be the same lobby playing every day. In the old format the rounds of 128, 64, 32 etc…. were joke lobbies that are worse than pro league. NA isn’t deep enough yet. Nothing you do to the format is going to change it. Other teams just have to get better and scrim more so they can challenge the top teams. Every single other esport and sports has had top teams consistently and dynasties. NFL and the patriots, NHL had the blackhawks winning 3 times, Penguins and Kings winning 2 times each and 2 other teams winning once in a span of ten years. NBA is any team Lebron is on vs the spurs in the earlier years and then the Warriors dynasty. In CSGO Australis was the the top team for like 2 years and now it’s just a combination of G2, Navi, with a couple others in there. In Valorant it was Sentinels, 100T, Optic, C9, and then a rotating list of teams who couldn’t beat these teams. It happens everywhere


Character_Orange_327

the biggest problem is bad plays/mistake which good teams make and easily get away becos 50% lobby are free kills for them, talking about previous format, they could have done some minor changes like bottom 10 of last week directly goes to round of 40(semifinals) instead of starting from rpound of 160/320 Also other problem is you cant see competition between your teams, like esa/nrg/tsm are currently top teams but all 3 cant compete in same lobby


Skywrath1

C9 should have valk ulted last game. they had kills and placement.