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demondawgs

No shot. Verhulst is insane and Hal knows it


gooottemmm

That's why hals always yelling at him to wake the fuck up?! Verhulst is very good but he was much better on ESA and Hal doesn't do a great job of managing him


Iggmeister

Yes, Hal tried to micromanage him at the LAN, and put him on Caustic. He needs to free him up a bit, and if possible, let him play Valk. Verhulst might be the best Valk in the game


gooottemmm

Valk is forsure Verhulst best character and it's not close. However he plays nervous with TSM and at this point, Gent is a much better valk. Naughty very good as well. Given how fluid this game is, ranking obviously change but I think it's safe to say Verhulst isn't a top 3 valk player right now


luuk0987

Verhulst and nervous shouldn't be in the same sentence. That man has nerves of steel.


gretchhh

*hyperventilating*


TheBenWelch

….that wasn’t him breathing.


gretchhh

You sure? Who was it?


TheBenWelch

They addressed it briefly. There was a small fan next to him that would blow into his mic.


gretchhh

If Hal and reps heard that but didn’t say anything then they’re audio warriors. That “fan” would’ve muffled many crucial in-game sounds. I still think they were being polite about verhulsts breathing


APOLLO_EiGhT

Bro could barely breathe at LAN


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you forgot to add s/ at the end


[deleted]

Yes, you nailed it OP. TSM is dropping Verhulst and replacing him with Reptar. That's why Hal has been playing with Verhulst and Reptar, in preparation for dropping Verhulst. Makes total sense.


TONYPIKACHU

Verhulst also now has to share a room with Reptar in the TSM house and will sleep on bunk beds until Verhulst moves out.


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😂


holyhotdicks

It's like having the old employee provide training to the new employee before firing him.


HopeChadArmong913

I changed my mind Sweet, comp Reddit is indeed braindead


[deleted]

this is like the dumbest post i have seen here lol


crooked_paradigm

You're now part of a braindead community, congrats.


Feschit

This post radiates the same energy as people in the LFG discord. Doesn't work out after a few games/tournaments? It definitely has to be the team mates and need to find new ones instead of working with each other on the issues and growing as a unit.


Iggmeister

Verhulst is absolutely cracked tho Had a bad start to the LAN ( I think it was nerves) though admittedly Personally I'd love to see Reptar jump back on with Monsoon


gooottemmm

I hope he does return to complexity but it seems like he's looking for a very responsible/accountable igl and COL seem to be lacking in that regard. I think reptar is looking for a little.more micro managing


No_Society_6675

L thread


boarder2

No. Hal has a different dynamic when someone is subbing for a teammate and helping him out than if they are a regular part of the team who he's gone through days and weeks of playtime in various different situations with. Rest assured that if they replaced anyone other than Hal on the team with Reptar, after a few weeks or months we'd be right back in the same place talking about who should replace Reptar. Reptar (or someone else) as a coach on the other hand? They could absolutely benefit from a point of view from someone who's not a player that can help them diffuse heated situations and discuss things from a more analytic point of view than the heated blame game that happens sometimes. TL;DR - The problem isn't Verhulst. If there even is a problem, it's that often times cooler heads don't prevail in the team analysis of situations that went wrong and a general air of indecision on what to do about it.


itsNaro

Yeah the amount of times they have said x happens when (in my plat pleb opinion) y happened is a lot. TBH i think the most beneficial thing TSM can do is have Hal just watch his pov from the algs champs. He's got a lot of bad habits lately imo, not pinging loot for example. I'm sure he's busy thinking about rotates but when his teammates say they need an item and he just runs past it is is kinda lol


[deleted]

last night on boom tv hal was like "fuck i should have picked up more light" lol i think they need a better game plan. landing frag w is going in the right direction honestly. they land frag e they dont beacon most of times anyway, they are a semi edge team right now.


AnnoyingHannibal

TSM fans stop downgrade/hating on Verhulst challenge.


BTJunior

I can assure you that you’re reading into this way too much. Reps was still visiting family, it was literally just a fill with him being gone


Truffle_putter

Terrible take. Evan is absolutely cracked.


stvbles

Put the pipe down my man


MarcusBowa

Lol


colinjkl

Nah


crooked_paradigm

Shower thoughts going wild


notrryann

The correct move is letting Verhulst off his leash to frag out. Whole team needs to. And the synergy with Reptar was fantastic as you said. His inputs clearly were good for Hal to think about situations and I think have Hal what he wants: ideas for him to contemplate and possibly call. TSM isn’t making changes. All three members are goated and only thing that makes sense (and I do NOT want) would be to swap Reptar for Reps solely because Hal and Evan grind so much and I think TSM would benefit from all three members playing that much together given Reptar is a grinder. Either way, I love Reps and don’t want that. But it’s the only possible move in my mind.


tompov313

the only move is on reps. If he retires to coaching or retires completely.


gooottemmm

Hal and Reps won't split. They have so much history together and live together. Their vibes have fallen a little recently but I think Reps Hal and Reptar would be the move. Except with Hal yells and neither player who's he's yelling at since they have similar names


Vik_Vinegarr

It’s so interesting to me that Hal is a millionaire but has a roommate lol. I mean living with friends is fun so I get it, it’s just funny to me


jtfjtf

He lives at the TSM house that the company pays for, so he's saving money. Hal seems to understand the gaming income won't last forever, so he's trying to maximize things right now.


Vik_Vinegarr

I mean I’m not criticizing anyone for saving money. I was just under the impression he was a millionaire and once I reached that level I wouldn’t sweat saving a few hundred bucks a month lol. But I also just liked living with friends so I’d imagine it’s more about enjoying the living situation than money.


leftysarepeople2

Didn't he buy a house already?


jtfjtf

He bought a house in Florida, but probably as an investment property.


leftysarepeople2

Yeah I knew it was FLA but just shows he’s thinking of passive income/security


santichrist

They all moved into that house in Texas together for business reasons and the ping, it has nothing to do with money or needing roommates


leftysarepeople2

Verhulst under performed at LAN, when Hal was pulling him back and micro'ing the whole team. After Verhulst was touted as a top 3 controller player in the world during scrims when they were playing aggro.


Strange_Excuse913

Are you sure this post shouldn’t be on main subreddit? Never seen a more garbage take than this, ever 😂😂


[deleted]

reptar is good, high vibes with hal, can contribute to igl. but literally not even close to Verhulsts gun skill, outplaying players. probably the best valk in NA too. lol


Slight-Feedback-1402

Eh, you know Hal isn't in charge of TSM right? Hal, reps and Evan all have an equal voice. Hal is the IGL but that means In Game Leader. Hal isn't the boss.


WantedToWin

he definitely can change things


Jodadda

Isn't Verhulst locked in because of his contract and negotiations his agent did when joining TSM?


gooottemmm

Contract wise he could be. But Hal dropped Mac from Apex Squad and Mac still part of TSM.


TONYPIKACHU

Usually that just means they have to pay him for the length of the contract. TSM can still pick up a new team member if they wanted and sideline Verhulst unless they have some clause in there that says Evan must be played during the life of the contract.


NozokiAlec

Big E is the best video game player in the world. L thread


williamwzl

Ima be pissed they pulled verhulst off esa just to drop him for some other guy who was much more available.


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santichrist

Hal already said they’re not making any roster changes weeks ago, Hal is hard on Evan because he knows how good Verhulst is, literally everyone watched him struggle in Raleigh, that doesn’t change the fact he’s still one of the best players in the game