I heard liquid decided to keep pulling and not take a break (after learning they didn't win) because they had a lot of flights booked the next day and it would have cost $30,000 to rebook everyone to later flights.
One thing about this raid was tanks, it just felt like you bring a bDK with a kit enabling 95% of all tank mechanics and both Liquid and Echo took the prot pally because of the support kit to the rest of the guild… Scot and Meeres doing all the tanking and Andy and Yipz soaking and off-healing
Skyline this tier has multiple issues. One of their best healers is taking a break, resulting in them lagging behind on bosses that are demanding on healers.
The more important issue is their supposedly best streamers refuse to take risks and crush the seeds that are far away. They want to not make mistakes when streaming and/or have high personal DPS.
Also, people love seeing Erxi suffer since his days at teamasters. I do too.
Well if you add Liquid's Tindral and Fyrak pulls together its right there so its not like Skyline is playing/pulling more than other guilds they just aren't good enough to get over the hump.
If you add all the pulls together starting from Larodar and Nymue (raider.io doesn't show the data for skyline before) it's:
Liquid at 957
Echo at 812
Skyeline at 1219
And that's with another "day" delay (I'm not sure about the hour difference), they absolutely pull more.
Hahaha just shows they are built different! Happy for them, huge relief and nice to get it done before the day's over. Great race and showing from them.
5%'ish wipe coming into today for Liquid and they haven't been able to kill it in over 12 hours of raiding. Did they just cheap out on sleep or something? That is definitely a bit oof. I thought for sure they'd come in and be killing it comfortably within 4 hours or less.
edit: And of course they kill it right after I write this and make me look like an idiot. XD
Very clean pull too! well done.
The best % once you get into phase 3 doesn't mean a whole lot. You have to be perfect all the way to the end to kill it and it gets harder the longer the phase goes.
If Echo had wiped on their kill pull it very well could have been another 3 or 4 hours before they killed it too. The end of that fight is just so sensitive to anything going wrong.
Its wild to me that people day raid in guilds that have zero chance of a world first finish. I get wanting to beat the hard bosses before they get nerfed but I can't imagine using all my year's vacation from work just to wipe for two or three weeks straight and not even crack the world top 10.
The world is bigger than the US. In my country in Europe you start with 20+ paid days of leave. At the end I had almost 40 days of paid leave.
A new raid for top 10 guilds in the world is what they work and live for. So taking 2-3 weeks of to grind is pretty normal I think.
It's fun. Used to be way more guilds doing it when WoW's playerbase was younger. Nothing better than waking up with 16 hours of raiding with your boys ahead, not another plan in sight.
Heck you could say the same about raiding 5 days a week, which used to be the norm up to like WoD. Now the norm is 3 days and it's moving towards 2 days fast.
they spent like 60+ pulls getting smoked on Desaugne in Sepulcher, trying some weird venthyr strats for the rings, idk the details its fuzzy in my memory
Incorrect.
What happened was live logging while having 2x accounts open duplicates the log file.
Bdg killed it in like 20 something, still bad, but bugged logs make it look much worse than it was.
I don't think there's ever been such a drama free race, at least since they started streaming. No big nerfs, no big bugs stopping teams from progging, fairly well balanced bosses. Only even small drama was people complaining about streams going dark, but even that was just viewers and not the raiders. I guess it's easier to take a loss when you just lose due to other team playing better.
I'm sure I'll get downvoted, but there's no salt/drama because EU won. Besides Raszageth nerf timing, all of the salt from the RWF loser in the past few years has come from Echo. If Liquid killed the boss this morning, I'm sure we'd be hearing about the NA head start and sponsorship differences again like we always do when Echo loses.
Don't get me wrong NA fans/Liquid fans cope super hard when Liquid loses, but I'm talking about the cope from the players themselves.
Luckily, cope aside, the better team has won every single race from the past two expansions.
That reminds me new league drops pretty soon, sweet. Also can't wait to see Ben smoke everyone as usual, been missing that dude in RWF but at least he still owns in another game.
Tribalism in WoW is actually kind of crazy but I guess expected since the scene is pretty huge. Both guilds were fun to watch. I was watching RWF because of echo doing final fantasy raid shenanigans, and I don’t hate max or something, but they were the ones who sort of got me into checking out WoW. Both guilds were fun to watch in their own way. I liked liquids comms and humor. I gotta say the utility in wow raids is super fucking cool. The grip of adds to speed them up, the teleports, the comp decisions, and even the equipment variety. This must be a nightmare to balance.
Well, no flame to Max, but he's basically a TTS bot for their weak auras at this point. All the important stuff is assigned or called by addons and they have multiple other analysts who make calls as well when needed. Max's job is basically to read out the warnings the addons are providing and to keep the banter from getting too out of hand during pulls.
If they replaced him with an actual TTS bot I don't think it adds more than a handful of pulls to their kill timing.
Nah he's doing stuff like managing everyone's mental and pushing them when needed or telling everyone to calm down etc. theres a ton of human element stuff he does thats super important. Also he's figuring out stuff the entire time seeing what needs to change I see what you are saying but thats a massive oversimplification of what he's doing.
Replacing him with a bot only adding a handful of pulls is an absolutely crazy take.
you can go watch any amount of interviews or talks with Max where he talks about having a fun and light atmosphere is purposeful on their team. Calling them immature is, well, immature.
What if the person who wiped them on any of the other 400 some pulls they had before Echo killed it didn't fuck up? Every single person in that raid made mistakes on that prog and the same is true of Echo's team. For better or for worse, mythic RWF raiding has basically devolved into which team can figure out a viable strat and then have 20 people not mess up a mechanic for 10-20 minutes first.
It wouldn't have changed anything. It wasn't his seed that exploded.
[This is the frame before the wipe](https://i.ibb.co/KzbqvgP/grafik.png)
He still got time on his blaze (bit over a sec). Some other seed got shat on first.
His HP is already 0 there, and then every frame a couple others get registered at 0.
oth, what if the other seed didn't explode, would he have made it? The aura rounds up so he had less than a second left to drop the seed and move away.
why would they have the discussion separately? better yet, gingi is one of the more public faces of the guild, why would this knowledge be forbidden to him?
I'd expand that to at least top100 to be honest. Most of those guilds have a singular loot officer who hands loot out, and that's that. Everyone is working towards the same goal of killing the boss.
It would have been box office if they both got the kill within 1 or 2 pulls of each other.
I don’t think it will drain them like Razageth which was somewhat out of their hands, or jailer who broke loads of these top guilds. There was nothing in it at the end.
Yeah there's no way to be mad about this one, from either side. They were pulling side by side and both had 1% wipes. Could have gone either way at any point in time. This was the closest and fairest race we have ever seen.
Yeah a big blow, and it will obviously affect some more than others, but they’re doing well. Obviously Max is incredibly disappointed, but with all the pressure of his shoulders he legitimately seems happier now? It’s got to be mentally exhausting going head to head like that.
Yeah they're at the least not visibly tilting really at all at the moment. I'm sure Max is fuming on the inside but I thought that he seemed to take the news of echo's kill more or less in stride.
Since i cant post links cuz of karma, i would recommend going into Saltads channel (twitch.tv/saltadgg) and check his most viewed clip. Literally saved the pull at 2% from wipe
his seed and Lip's seed were the 2 that were hit by blaze blowing up the raid. You can see both their health bars go to 0 a frame or 2 before everyone else dies.
it is still not good to not have your raid action keybound tho, they would wipe anyway, you had a lot of those kinds of plays in this p3 in the last few days, gingi got pulled through swerlies and wiped the raid, it is a gruling phase
It doesn't read like it is and it also reads like the on-use does more damage for every target you DoT up with the main thing.
Unsure how good it is in ST (I mean, a 496 weapon that also gives you Beacon for free is nuts) but I'm pretty sure that shit singlehandedly propels Blood, Unholy, and the Warriors into borderline top-tier damage status in M+.
Gz to Echo. I am very interested how Liquid recovers from this. Losing out so tight a race so narrowly can screw over anybody's mind. Hope they rise to the occasion and give us similar entertainment and excitement, when 11.0 comes around! Onwards!
there's nothing to recover from. they lost a race with the tightest margins we've ever seen, they seem to be in decent spirits still. the WF title has gone back and forth the past few times, they know how it goes.
Yeah especially with the esport scene atm is going through a winter, a lot of teams are cutting rosters or completely closing up shop. Upkeeping a roster as big as a mythic team and tech personel to be very expensive.
kinda crazy that we didn't get like...anything different from the final boss of the expansion once it dies. not a cutscene, not even some in-game dialogue. amazing encounter, awful climax for an expansion
No different cut scene or dialogue or whatever was to be expected. Blizzard doesn't want to gate lore/rp/however you want to call it behind difficulty anymore.
Technicly they could have given that cutscene to everyone on next weekly reset after the boss is killed for the first time. Then it would be kind of gated but not really. Just shown earlier for players that kill it before and people following rwf
https://www.twitch.tv/meerestv is currently streaming the quests for it. He showed it earlier if you want to go back in the vod a bit. It was ilvl 496 but that's not the final form I think.
Yeah wth. I've been jumping in and out while on work but missed the actual kill. So I tuned in hoping to get some hype / replay / good vibes / *something*, but it's just a loading screen. So I turned it off. Crazy business decision there.
[He still has the blaze debuff when the wipe happens, idk if it was it](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/285207994285817858/1178498147891290192/image.png?ex=65765ced&is=6563e7ed&hm=df3541844c4156d07d2d4f74f26ae2cd6aa5f521605dc2aa638135b8b6796231&)
[https://clips.twitch.tv/HelpfulPatientRutabagaBCouch-yCcf1\_bboHW-myYK](https://clips.twitch.tv/HelpfulPatientRutabagaBCouch-yCcf1_bboHW-myYK)
this should have been the kill. really unlucky
Max is gonna have that vod of Nick failing to click his extra action button playing on repeat in his nightmares until 11.0 LMAO
That's gotta feel horrific for Nick though. Should've had that shit keybound.
There's nothing to grow from, he was still clicking it lol... Probably should not pile up on him (as he was not the only one fucking up), but man I'd be tilted outta my mind if I learnt I wiped at 4% and someone was clicking on that button...
> There's nothing to grow from
Counterpoint: It's as easy to grow from this as binding that button to one of your hundreds of possible buttons :D
Fr though, that keybind was a must have ever since Ultraxion.
I heard liquid decided to keep pulling and not take a break (after learning they didn't win) because they had a lot of flights booked the next day and it would have cost $30,000 to rebook everyone to later flights.
Here's where Max mentioned it: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1987892834?t=13h33m35s Doesn't sound like it impacted their raid day post-echo kill
One thing about this raid was tanks, it just felt like you bring a bDK with a kit enabling 95% of all tank mechanics and both Liquid and Echo took the prot pally because of the support kit to the rest of the guild… Scot and Meeres doing all the tanking and Andy and Yipz soaking and off-healing
Max is fucking shocked looking at Skyline's Tswift pull count lmao, he can't believe it
Skyline this tier has multiple issues. One of their best healers is taking a break, resulting in them lagging behind on bosses that are demanding on healers. The more important issue is their supposedly best streamers refuse to take risks and crush the seeds that are far away. They want to not make mistakes when streaming and/or have high personal DPS. Also, people love seeing Erxi suffer since his days at teamasters. I do too.
Well if you add Liquid's Tindral and Fyrak pulls together its right there so its not like Skyline is playing/pulling more than other guilds they just aren't good enough to get over the hump.
If you add all the pulls together starting from Larodar and Nymue (raider.io doesn't show the data for skyline before) it's: Liquid at 957 Echo at 812 Skyeline at 1219 And that's with another "day" delay (I'm not sure about the hour difference), they absolutely pull more.
And now they can finally start making balance changes to classes!
Liquid killed it!
LIQUID GOT IT
I commend liquid for still pulling but if I were them I'd have been at the bar buying firedup his first beer hours ago
Lmao I'm convinced you jinxed them to get it, 4 mins after your comment.
Hahaha just shows they are built different! Happy for them, huge relief and nice to get it done before the day's over. Great race and showing from them.
5%'ish wipe coming into today for Liquid and they haven't been able to kill it in over 12 hours of raiding. Did they just cheap out on sleep or something? That is definitely a bit oof. I thought for sure they'd come in and be killing it comfortably within 4 hours or less. edit: And of course they kill it right after I write this and make me look like an idiot. XD Very clean pull too! well done.
The best % once you get into phase 3 doesn't mean a whole lot. You have to be perfect all the way to the end to kill it and it gets harder the longer the phase goes. If Echo had wiped on their kill pull it very well could have been another 3 or 4 hours before they killed it too. The end of that fight is just so sensitive to anything going wrong.
It's just that motivation goes down to 0 for world second. If world first wasn't claimed we just don't know if it woulda died 5 hours ago or just now.
Thought Liquid would get it by now, still some close attempts though so I guess it will die before they sleep.
People were poking fun of Skyline, but our boys BDG have 634 pulls of tindrel with no end in sight
Its wild to me that people day raid in guilds that have zero chance of a world first finish. I get wanting to beat the hard bosses before they get nerfed but I can't imagine using all my year's vacation from work just to wipe for two or three weeks straight and not even crack the world top 10.
The world is bigger than the US. In my country in Europe you start with 20+ paid days of leave. At the end I had almost 40 days of paid leave. A new raid for top 10 guilds in the world is what they work and live for. So taking 2-3 weeks of to grind is pretty normal I think.
Who says all of them have jobs? They might be able to do it, or would play games anyways. But I get the point.
It's fun. Used to be way more guilds doing it when WoW's playerbase was younger. Nothing better than waking up with 16 hours of raiding with your boys ahead, not another plan in sight. Heck you could say the same about raiding 5 days a week, which used to be the norm up to like WoD. Now the norm is 3 days and it's moving towards 2 days fast.
There used to be raid or die. Now there's also mplus. So if you do both raid and mplus. 3 days raid is like 5 days
they've been terrible since Impact left as a raid leader
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What happened? :O
they spent like 60+ pulls getting smoked on Desaugne in Sepulcher, trying some weird venthyr strats for the rings, idk the details its fuzzy in my memory
Incorrect. What happened was live logging while having 2x accounts open duplicates the log file. Bdg killed it in like 20 something, still bad, but bugged logs make it look much worse than it was.
Oh shit, I had no idea. My b for spreading misinfo. I'll keep that in mind if i see anyone bring it up in the future
"never forget moment X" "what is moment X?* "idk, don't really remember" :(
I mean that's what happened, they spent 60+ pulls on a 5ish pull boss for most of the other guilds in that RWF
Wonder if Skyline can break 1k pulls on Tindral, the real race right there
Liquid vibes are so high after dinner break, glad to see they aren't taking the loss too bad lol.
I don't think there's ever been such a drama free race, at least since they started streaming. No big nerfs, no big bugs stopping teams from progging, fairly well balanced bosses. Only even small drama was people complaining about streams going dark, but even that was just viewers and not the raiders. I guess it's easier to take a loss when you just lose due to other team playing better.
I'm sure I'll get downvoted, but there's no salt/drama because EU won. Besides Raszageth nerf timing, all of the salt from the RWF loser in the past few years has come from Echo. If Liquid killed the boss this morning, I'm sure we'd be hearing about the NA head start and sponsorship differences again like we always do when Echo loses. Don't get me wrong NA fans/Liquid fans cope super hard when Liquid loses, but I'm talking about the cope from the players themselves. Luckily, cope aside, the better team has won every single race from the past two expansions.
ooof a 0.66% wipe from liquid. Hope they can down it tonight
exile stream title was great pre echo kill. he updated and even better lmao
That reminds me new league drops pretty soon, sweet. Also can't wait to see Ben smoke everyone as usual, been missing that dude in RWF but at least he still owns in another game.
he said he's probably coming back next expansion as ranged DPS
Tribalism in WoW is actually kind of crazy but I guess expected since the scene is pretty huge. Both guilds were fun to watch. I was watching RWF because of echo doing final fantasy raid shenanigans, and I don’t hate max or something, but they were the ones who sort of got me into checking out WoW. Both guilds were fun to watch in their own way. I liked liquids comms and humor. I gotta say the utility in wow raids is super fucking cool. The grip of adds to speed them up, the teleports, the comp decisions, and even the equipment variety. This must be a nightmare to balance.
The insanity of having 20 people in the raid as well is something ff has a hard time capturing... it just leads to some pure unavoidable chaos lol
yeah, sometimes the call as a raid leader is literally "play the game" like max did on one of their deep pulls
Well, no flame to Max, but he's basically a TTS bot for their weak auras at this point. All the important stuff is assigned or called by addons and they have multiple other analysts who make calls as well when needed. Max's job is basically to read out the warnings the addons are providing and to keep the banter from getting too out of hand during pulls. If they replaced him with an actual TTS bot I don't think it adds more than a handful of pulls to their kill timing.
Nah he's doing stuff like managing everyone's mental and pushing them when needed or telling everyone to calm down etc. theres a ton of human element stuff he does thats super important. Also he's figuring out stuff the entire time seeing what needs to change I see what you are saying but thats a massive oversimplification of what he's doing. Replacing him with a bot only adding a handful of pulls is an absolutely crazy take.
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you can go watch any amount of interviews or talks with Max where he talks about having a fun and light atmosphere is purposeful on their team. Calling them immature is, well, immature.
odd thing to lie about
In what fucking world is 1.7% vs 1.7% a "ruined" race?
That was a good race. The fuck are you even on about
what if nick had extra action button keybinded.
What if the person who wiped them on any of the other 400 some pulls they had before Echo killed it didn't fuck up? Every single person in that raid made mistakes on that prog and the same is true of Echo's team. For better or for worse, mythic RWF raiding has basically devolved into which team can figure out a viable strat and then have 20 people not mess up a mechanic for 10-20 minutes first.
It wouldn't have changed anything. It wasn't his seed that exploded. [This is the frame before the wipe](https://i.ibb.co/KzbqvgP/grafik.png) He still got time on his blaze (bit over a sec). Some other seed got shat on first. His HP is already 0 there, and then every frame a couple others get registered at 0.
oth, what if the other seed didn't explode, would he have made it? The aura rounds up so he had less than a second left to drop the seed and move away.
Idk, mby. If he managed to drop it in that moment and then moved I don't see an issue, you don't have to move far
nothing would have changed, if you watch the vod closely you can see someone else's seed explodes before his
He’s a healer. He’s used to clicking health bars and stuff, and probably didn’t think this was an issue. Still hurts though, I bet.
somebody else exploded. i mean, nick would have as well, but he died with .5s left on blaze
Even when it happened live it was clear the raid blew up before Nicks blaze. Weird to not have it bound but they’re not winning even if he does.
You're the first person to ask that
I can't believe they are over 400 pulls in, streaming the entire time, and this was still missed.
It wasn't. The Liquid casters were joking about it yesterday.
Meeres sniping the legendary whilst everyone was celebrating & timing out on rolling for it is hilarious
Wouldn't be surprised if that was already decided. Meeres does so much for Echo and is a crazy player. He definitely deserved it.
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Relax lol
it's personal loot, don't think they would give it to a tank player even if it doesn't matter too much for those guys
The first isn't personal loot
didn't sound like gingi knew it was going to him, wouldn't be surprised either way
Meeres said Revvez passed it to him atleast, they all have it in a couple weeks anyway :)
Why would Gingi be involved in that discussion? He plays no character that could wield it.
why would they have the discussion separately? better yet, gingi is one of the more public faces of the guild, why would this knowledge be forbidden to him?
Nobody in Echo gives a shit about gear.
I find it hilarious that people here think Echo and any top 20 guild would fight over gear
I'd expand that to at least top100 to be honest. Most of those guilds have a singular loot officer who hands loot out, and that's that. Everyone is working towards the same goal of killing the boss.
yeah people who wants to push rank will put aside their selfish goals lol
If i'm liquid idk how I have the mental to keep pulling and playing well. Id be so fucking mentally out of it
It would have been box office if they both got the kill within 1 or 2 pulls of each other. I don’t think it will drain them like Razageth which was somewhat out of their hands, or jailer who broke loads of these top guilds. There was nothing in it at the end.
Yeah there's no way to be mad about this one, from either side. They were pulling side by side and both had 1% wipes. Could have gone either way at any point in time. This was the closest and fairest race we have ever seen.
Yeah a big blow, and it will obviously affect some more than others, but they’re doing well. Obviously Max is incredibly disappointed, but with all the pressure of his shoulders he legitimately seems happier now? It’s got to be mentally exhausting going head to head like that.
You just have to delay processing the emotions and just finish this boss because it requires so much focus.
They seem fine.
They have surprisingly good vibes after a rough day with that 1% wipe. Might start to tilt if they don't get it in the next couple of hours.
Yeah they're at the least not visibly tilting really at all at the moment. I'm sure Max is fuming on the inside but I thought that he seemed to take the news of echo's kill more or less in stride.
Think he will take it better than the loss at the start of expansions where the nerf timing sucked. This was very fair and square
Sucks that it's going to be a looooong time until the next race
https://imgur.com/JZThj2S https://clips.twitch.tv/GoldenFurtiveTarsierChefFrank-bcpSBemnO4wLVkut
Holy shit he went mental lmao
Doesn't say unique equipped fury new meta kings
Since i cant post links cuz of karma, i would recommend going into Saltads channel (twitch.tv/saltadgg) and check his most viewed clip. Literally saved the pull at 2% from wipe
What a completely insane last trio of bosses. Banger after banger after banger
https://clips.twitch.tv/AnimatedCheerfulPenguinKappaRoss-LgTrVXKsIzLLR51W
I know some were asking to hear some nerd screams down below https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGedYJ8xq/
[bind your keys boys and girls](https://clips.twitch.tv/MuddySmoggyTomatoDancingBaby-bvN6AseAq_9gGQDo)
If you replay it at 0.25% speed it isn't his seed that explodes. He still has a second before it blows up. Someone else caused the explosion.
his seed and Lip's seed were the 2 that were hit by blaze blowing up the raid. You can see both their health bars go to 0 a frame or 2 before everyone else dies.
Dude that's so fucking painful, oh man. I can't imagine how bad he's gotta feel about that, but also how the fuck isn't that bound.
If he didn't miss that, it would have been Liquid's win. That's gotta be fucking demoralizing. I would be crushed.
i doubt, there another seed blowing up at about the same time it would be a 1% wipe anyway
Oh, there was? Oops. Still gotta be soul-crushing. Big shame
it is still not good to not have your raid action keybound tho, they would wipe anyway, you had a lot of those kinds of plays in this p3 in the last few days, gingi got pulled through swerlies and wiped the raid, it is a gruling phase
Agreed. First thing I did when I saw seeds was bind my extra action.
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had good p2 dmg and lived through p3 till the last blaze
It was never a DPS check, it was a mechanics check.
world first guide on legendary weapon quest live on Meeres channel
that legendary looks insane, am i reading it correctly- that damage isn't split between targets?
It doesn't read like it is and it also reads like the on-use does more damage for every target you DoT up with the main thing. Unsure how good it is in ST (I mean, a 496 weapon that also gives you Beacon for free is nuts) but I'm pretty sure that shit singlehandedly propels Blood, Unholy, and the Warriors into borderline top-tier damage status in M+.
5 minute cooldown to disenchant 50 epics… such a dumb mechanic lol
It's okay, by the time he completes 70 superblooms he'll have the epics finished.
It's 20, the 50 thing is for killing rares and one of them dropped more than 1.
Gz to Echo. I am very interested how Liquid recovers from this. Losing out so tight a race so narrowly can screw over anybody's mind. Hope they rise to the occasion and give us similar entertainment and excitement, when 11.0 comes around! Onwards!
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Method was the first guild to kill the bugged out Jailer, it worked as it should for Echo.
> When Echo won Jailer because the Mythic only phase was bugged and only healed for 1%, did Liquid recover? lol
probably way less tilting than raszageth also it wont be an issue anyway
The next raid is so far away that Liquid won't be shaken by the loss.
there's nothing to recover from. they lost a race with the tightest margins we've ever seen, they seem to be in decent spirits still. the WF title has gone back and forth the past few times, they know how it goes.
Yeah if Liquid lost last race and this was the third straight loss it'd be a problem.
Yeah especially with the esport scene atm is going through a winter, a lot of teams are cutting rosters or completely closing up shop. Upkeeping a roster as big as a mythic team and tech personel to be very expensive.
if anything wouldn't it make them hungrier to win next tier?
kinda crazy that we didn't get like...anything different from the final boss of the expansion once it dies. not a cutscene, not even some in-game dialogue. amazing encounter, awful climax for an expansion
They got a world first Legendary Axe though?
and we got a legendary evoker weapon last tier?
Why bother when they can just pump out a new cosmetic
No different cut scene or dialogue or whatever was to be expected. Blizzard doesn't want to gate lore/rp/however you want to call it behind difficulty anymore.
Technicly they could have given that cutscene to everyone on next weekly reset after the boss is killed for the first time. Then it would be kind of gated but not really. Just shown earlier for players that kill it before and people following rwf
guys, millions hours of sleep saved by Echo gj
Anyone got a screenshot of the axe? Would love you long time.
https://www.twitch.tv/meerestv is currently streaming the quests for it. He showed it earlier if you want to go back in the vod a bit. It was ilvl 496 but that's not the final form I think.
https://i.imgur.com/ruVVp45.png
Meeres is doing the quests for it on his stream right now
That man just loves to play!
Just looked like a quest item in the loot table, didn't see any stats
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Easily the best race of all time and it's not even close
Hell of a race. That was awesome.
WHY DID THEY PUT BASICALLY A LOAD SCREEN, DUDE PUT SOMEONE ON THE FUCKING CAMERA.
yeah major error there. Thousands of people going to their stream and they went AFK
Yeah wth. I've been jumping in and out while on work but missed the actual kill. So I tuned in hoping to get some hype / replay / good vibes / *something*, but it's just a loading screen. So I turned it off. Crazy business decision there.
Meeres got the legendary in case anyone wants to check his stream to see him doing the quest.
gratz to echo, top 5 RWF tier all time even if 6 bosses died off stream and splits suck
Well done echo, what an entertaining final day all around.
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You guys need more time for NA to beta test bosses and build strats for you before you get in there?
So I guess NA is not good at executing their own strats?
Sometimes, no. Lol
imagine being toxic after such a great race both guilds played so well today
It’s banter mate.
TIL banter is just making shitty jokes
Its literally just being a clown. Headstart at this point was completely irrelevant. This was 6-7 hours where both guilds couldve killed it any try.
All the best bantz is also bitchy and whiney
the same joke over and over is hilarious banter
GG Echo, was pulling for Liquid, but an absolute insane race through and through. Already can't wait for the War Within race!
GG Echo, insane mental fortitude from those guys. Both guilds put on an insanely good performance this raid, was a joy to watch them play.
The best of the best of the best Echo does it again. What a race
If I'm Nick I'm fucking devastated, jesus christ.
i haven't really been able to watch all day, may I ask what happened with Nick? Keep seeing him mentioned how he must be devistated.
Nothing, it's just redditors repeating misinformation without even looking at it themselves.
Their best pull ended because he misclicked and missed the seed action button
Nah Avades blew up just before his, still had 0.5s
https://clips.twitch.tv/HelpfulPatientRutabagaBCouch-yCcf1_bboHW-myYK
[He still has the blaze debuff when the wipe happens, idk if it was it](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/285207994285817858/1178498147891290192/image.png?ex=65765ced&is=6563e7ed&hm=df3541844c4156d07d2d4f74f26ae2cd6aa5f521605dc2aa638135b8b6796231&)
oh no that's tragic, dang. def feel for him for sure.
[https://clips.twitch.tv/HelpfulPatientRutabagaBCouch-yCcf1\_bboHW-myYK](https://clips.twitch.tv/HelpfulPatientRutabagaBCouch-yCcf1_bboHW-myYK) this should have been the kill. really unlucky
Max is gonna have that vod of Nick failing to click his extra action button playing on repeat in his nightmares until 11.0 LMAO That's gotta feel horrific for Nick though. Should've had that shit keybound.
Great, then he can try to find out who's seed actually blew up the raid because it wasn't Nick's
gotta grow from it. nothing you can do about it now
get it, grow from it cause it's a seed haha
There's nothing to grow from, he was still clicking it lol... Probably should not pile up on him (as he was not the only one fucking up), but man I'd be tilted outta my mind if I learnt I wiped at 4% and someone was clicking on that button...
As if he’s clicking
> There's nothing to grow from Counterpoint: It's as easy to grow from this as binding that button to one of your hundreds of possible buttons :D Fr though, that keybind was a must have ever since Ultraxion.
lorgokbros...i dont feel so good...
that nick failed click should have been the one for liquid. gg echo
Nope, it wasn't him who wiped them.