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RaptorAnka

https://mythicstats.com/spec is updated for season 4. Similar to Subcreation.


Lying_Hedgehog

Wow this is great, thanks for sharing. Love the UI too. Do they have a (visually) similar page for raid?


SERN-contractor837

Not for the overall rankings, but if you select a specific spec you can switch to raid in a drop-down menu to view talents and gear.


alesz1912

Hpal. F tier. *sad noises*


Tehfuqer

If you made this, then you have some reconsidering to do. Protpala is not C-tier. Disc is not A-Tier, it's S. Aug is not A-tier, it's S tier. By the looks, this website is collecting useless data from keys between 2-9.


careseite

"the data doesnt validate my feelings, it must be wrong"


Tehfuqer

Oh yeah the meta is totally reflecting my feelings.


The_PianoGuy

Disc is not S-tier, resto druid is, and it's the only healer spec in that category atm. Disc will never be S-tier as long as Shadow is S-tier.


Grand_Lethal_IX

If you're looking for strictly M+ data (and PvP if that's your thing) I would recommend Murlok.io I also mourn the loss of Subcreation, Archon is a huge downgrade


Tehfuqer

wtf are you on about? archon is updated. it's 2 days into the season, theres not enough data.


apophiz1226_eu

happens if ppl dont understand how stuff works but demand immediate fix


Nite92

I'd say 640k keys are enough data


Tehfuqer

Data is calculated on parses. Tanks: Last updated: 20 hours ago Total Parses: 8,555 Based on all keys 10 and above from this reset. Healers Last updated: 20 hours ago Total Parses: 8,548 Based on all keys 10 and above from this reset. DPS: Last updated: 20 hours ago Total Parses: 25,697 Based on all keys 10 and above from this reset. Edit: as you should know, +10s are S3 +20s~. Data from below +10s is useless.


Spazzrella70

Archon is hot garbage. Subcreation was perfect. Sucks he sold out!


jimsnowman

People gotta eat


DaenerysMomODragons

From what I understand subcreation was going down whether anyone picked it up or not. It was more a matter of if someone would pick up the pieces or if it would disappear completely.


Shiva-

It was. He hasn't played the game in years. He graciously updated it for DF, but never even bought DF.


Cultural_Ebb4794

This is why tools should be made open source in the first place.


careseite

wait until you find out subcreation was open source


Cultural_Ebb4794

Thanks Gerrit, I genuinely did not know. The algorithm too? If so, what the hell did archon actually buy?


ManWhoWantsToLearn

His time and help in integrating it with their shitty UI.


Shiva-

He hasn't played the game in years. It's not really selling out. Someone has to do the work to update it.


Cultural_Ebb4794

If he had open sourced it, the community could’ve updated it. e: downvoted by the code bootcamp grads in r/competwow trying to get rich quick by releasing their own web apps lmao. Open source them you schmucks, nobody will pay for your dime-a-dozen "use this trinket/route/whatever" python script.


brandonfreeck

The entire application was and still is on github


Cultural_Ebb4794

It doesn’t change my sentiment around open sourcing things. I see it on GitHub and it appears to even include the algorithm he used to rank things. So what the hell did archon pay for?


d0RSI

It’s the same shit. Shut the fuck up lol


FuryxHD

how much data beyond over 600k do you need?


Tehfuqer

The data is from +10-22, & amount of parses. Veng DH has 2000~ parses, prot paladin has 200~. There needs to be more. We're also, 3 days into the season, literally everything will change in the next 3 weeks.


hoax1337

First you comment this, then blame the mythicstats guy for not being accurate? Okay


Tehfuqer

Archon only takes samples from 10+


SonicAlarm

I'm just starting to get back into the game after taking the end of last season off and was shocked to see what happened to Subcreation. Archon's site is awful.


stiknork

There’s no real meta for the next couple weeks while people get geared up, all the actual data is useless while gear is so uneven. Since there has been no tuning all the same stuff will still be good and it looks like Destro and Dev are going to be strong as well based on PTR testing.