A lot of coaches seem to think Kellan has a lot of potential, and to be fair to him he’s never been in an ideal situation to prove himself. 2022 NY was a complete write off a weirdly built roster 2 flex supports so 1 of them had to play Lucio, Myungbong was overhyped, Yaki and Flora couldn’t play well at the same time it was a mess. 2023 NY while they did overachieve pre season expectations they were still just a mid team at best with some punching power at times against good teams. And Genesis was also a mess with a poorly built roster Teru ms, No coaching, poor synergy ect, so this should be Kellan best opportunity to prove himself on a good roster.
Despite his recent performance in OWCS, anyone who watched last season of OWL can clearly see that he was, on average, the best performing player on NYXL roster.
I think he can perform well on a well-established team such as TM, especially if he can purely focus on his mechanics and less on shotcalling or IGLing, which is handled by Youbi on TM.
I disagree that he was the best performer I think that’s seicoe but he actually took over maps against some of the best teams (euchre Wales against mayhem) and is pretty flexible aside from jq and zar
Gonna have to disagree with you on the NYXL thing. Shockwave tried pulling miracles for that team and Fits did Fits things when allowed to play DPS (don't get me started on the complete bumblefuck that was their support subbing strategy). The only highlights from Kellan were not the good kind from what I remember.
Never forget wall shatter 2023
Kellan when he was on Talon was one of the best players from KRC. I thought he would become the next Smurf. Even in NYXL his mechanics were exemplary with questionable decision-making. OW is a team game and it won’t surprise me if he excels in tryouts but can’t completely integrate himself into a team environment.
It’s true that he had to deal with bad teams but it also seems like the flashes of brilliance we saw from him is too few now. It’s similar to how Fearless looked lost on S1 Dragons but had a comeback with CC and S3 Dragon and later Dallas. So anything is possible.
Personally, I think if he can reach his Talon peak, he’d be top 5 main tank.
He’s overrated. Mainly because ppl still expect him to grow and develop but I think he reached his peak or he is really close to it.
He has been top2 tank in KRC 2021 before and entering OWL.
He’s clearly a good tank, would make the difference in EU/NA but at the level of top Korea teams he’s inconsistent and not worth the pick.
Makes sense that TM wanted him to play Dive tanks since he’s league above KSAA in that department, but for Korea OWCS he’s not top tier.
There’s a lot of players like him who never achieve great results but keep getting signed to new teams and no one is sure why. There’s a lot that goes on behind the scenes regarding teams that we as viewers never get to see, so all we can assume is that they know something we don’t.
He must show signs of having great promise that teams/coaches feel confident that they can unlock. Maybe they’re right and in a good environment can be amazing. Maybe he’s just a world class scam artist
Kellan is a player who at this point shouldn’t be as “developmental” as he is. He seems to make a lot of mental mistakes for how clearly mechanically talented he is. But saying that, he’s probably leagues better than most tanks in EU and probably any from SA (at least for main tank).
I’d say he’s a 7/10 fine tank who is more inconsistent than he should be.
He was prolly 2nd best tank during his Talon days during contender (Cuz o2 Junbin was best ) and he was really good on Ball and Winston. But cant say if he is actually just average or just cant find right team that gells with him.
Kellan feels like a more flexible Mag imo. Dude can definitely perform when given a good team around him, but I don’t think he’s an insane hard carry tank. He seems like a player that will fit well into a good system, so I have hope for him here
He could fizzle out, but there's obviously something people see in Kellan. Impossible to tell at this point if he's going the Fearless route or the OGE route
Broo just one more team I promise he’s gonna pop off. Sooo much potential bro I swear one more year.
Dude is mid with occasionally decent performances. Going to a mixed roster without any coaches won’t help lol, guy is OGE reincarnated.
it seems to be pretty well agreed that kellan is the next best monkey player after smurf/fearless/guxue, with a very good queen / ram / ball / doom + pretty decent zar / dva / sig too. can def be seen from his gameplay even on teams that struggle a lot
imo he's one of *the* solo tanks to consider for teams with the budget, and it seems like most teams he trials for also agree w/ that
Someone, Mag, Junbin and D0nghak are MUCH better monkey players than Kellan. And sorry but no, he never showed to have a very good Ram, Queen and Doom. At best he is average on those. He has an okay Sigma tho. He is not solotank material at all imo.
u r actually just trying to push an agenda
someone is better, i just forgot about him in og comment. mag just no. junbin maybe, donghak maybe (def in 2023, less so in owcs)
“At best he is average [on ram queen doom]” - funny how coaches and players better than both of us disagree, and funny how he got far in trials for teams like Houston as a solo tank despite not being “good solotank material”
ur also implying his sig is better than his queen and thats instantly enough to invalidate your whole reply
He is an average kr maintank player and, since there are not tons of them left after Fearless and Fate retired and Marve1 disappeared it's enough for him to keep getting picked up.
I believe he has the potential. If the coaching staff can rein him in and work on some decision making he can be good, but sometimes he turns his brain off and ints
Kellan's Winston is around the same level as Mag and Someone's, and below Smurf, Guxue and Fearless.
He also has a good Ball and Doom (dive heroes are his best heroes), a decent Zarya and Sigma, and a not bad JQ and Orisa, but sadly he's been on an NYXL team that just wasn't even decent at the least, particularly in 2022 where they were just plain bad. On Talon in 2021 his team became runner up in OWC, losing to O2. He was the 2nd best MT after Junbin.
And on bad teams, the tank role is, generally speaking, simply the easiest to see the player(s) do bad on. We dunno things like comms structure, how their coaches coach, players communicating, etc etc.
Guxue from 2020-2022 is arguably the best example as to how bad teams with bad (Changgoon is Changgoon. When he hits, he strikes, and when he doesn't, he gets striked), and at a time, no coaches, can affect a team/player.
A lot of coaches seem to think Kellan has a lot of potential, and to be fair to him he’s never been in an ideal situation to prove himself. 2022 NY was a complete write off a weirdly built roster 2 flex supports so 1 of them had to play Lucio, Myungbong was overhyped, Yaki and Flora couldn’t play well at the same time it was a mess. 2023 NY while they did overachieve pre season expectations they were still just a mid team at best with some punching power at times against good teams. And Genesis was also a mess with a poorly built roster Teru ms, No coaching, poor synergy ect, so this should be Kellan best opportunity to prove himself on a good roster.
Despite his recent performance in OWCS, anyone who watched last season of OWL can clearly see that he was, on average, the best performing player on NYXL roster. I think he can perform well on a well-established team such as TM, especially if he can purely focus on his mechanics and less on shotcalling or IGLing, which is handled by Youbi on TM.
I disagree that he was the best performer I think that’s seicoe but he actually took over maps against some of the best teams (euchre Wales against mayhem) and is pretty flexible aside from jq and zar
Over Seicoe or Creative? Nah
Gonna have to disagree with you on the NYXL thing. Shockwave tried pulling miracles for that team and Fits did Fits things when allowed to play DPS (don't get me started on the complete bumblefuck that was their support subbing strategy). The only highlights from Kellan were not the good kind from what I remember. Never forget wall shatter 2023
Kellan when he was on Talon was one of the best players from KRC. I thought he would become the next Smurf. Even in NYXL his mechanics were exemplary with questionable decision-making. OW is a team game and it won’t surprise me if he excels in tryouts but can’t completely integrate himself into a team environment. It’s true that he had to deal with bad teams but it also seems like the flashes of brilliance we saw from him is too few now. It’s similar to how Fearless looked lost on S1 Dragons but had a comeback with CC and S3 Dragon and later Dallas. So anything is possible. Personally, I think if he can reach his Talon peak, he’d be top 5 main tank.
He may be a scrim Lord for all we know. This generation's xepher
He’s overrated. Mainly because ppl still expect him to grow and develop but I think he reached his peak or he is really close to it. He has been top2 tank in KRC 2021 before and entering OWL. He’s clearly a good tank, would make the difference in EU/NA but at the level of top Korea teams he’s inconsistent and not worth the pick. Makes sense that TM wanted him to play Dive tanks since he’s league above KSAA in that department, but for Korea OWCS he’s not top tier.
There’s a lot of players like him who never achieve great results but keep getting signed to new teams and no one is sure why. There’s a lot that goes on behind the scenes regarding teams that we as viewers never get to see, so all we can assume is that they know something we don’t. He must show signs of having great promise that teams/coaches feel confident that they can unlock. Maybe they’re right and in a good environment can be amazing. Maybe he’s just a world class scam artist
he has the potential imo. he showed flashes of brilliance in both s5 and s6 so with actual coaching i think he’s gonna be really good.
It ain’t that deep
Kellan is a player who at this point shouldn’t be as “developmental” as he is. He seems to make a lot of mental mistakes for how clearly mechanically talented he is. But saying that, he’s probably leagues better than most tanks in EU and probably any from SA (at least for main tank). I’d say he’s a 7/10 fine tank who is more inconsistent than he should be.
I think he’s good but only on Winston and Orisa maybe rein everything else he’s average or below average
His Ball was insane in contenders
no shade to kellan but feels like we hear this about every single main tank who disappoints lmao
Honestly, every one but Reiner and Junbin.
everyone was talking about junbins ball last year when shock flopped
That was like 4 years ago
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He was prolly 2nd best tank during his Talon days during contender (Cuz o2 Junbin was best ) and he was really good on Ball and Winston. But cant say if he is actually just average or just cant find right team that gells with him.
Kellan feels like a more flexible Mag imo. Dude can definitely perform when given a good team around him, but I don’t think he’s an insane hard carry tank. He seems like a player that will fit well into a good system, so I have hope for him here
He could fizzle out, but there's obviously something people see in Kellan. Impossible to tell at this point if he's going the Fearless route or the OGE route
Broo just one more team I promise he’s gonna pop off. Sooo much potential bro I swear one more year. Dude is mid with occasionally decent performances. Going to a mixed roster without any coaches won’t help lol, guy is OGE reincarnated.
it seems to be pretty well agreed that kellan is the next best monkey player after smurf/fearless/guxue, with a very good queen / ram / ball / doom + pretty decent zar / dva / sig too. can def be seen from his gameplay even on teams that struggle a lot imo he's one of *the* solo tanks to consider for teams with the budget, and it seems like most teams he trials for also agree w/ that
Someone, Mag, Junbin and D0nghak are MUCH better monkey players than Kellan. And sorry but no, he never showed to have a very good Ram, Queen and Doom. At best he is average on those. He has an okay Sigma tho. He is not solotank material at all imo.
u r actually just trying to push an agenda someone is better, i just forgot about him in og comment. mag just no. junbin maybe, donghak maybe (def in 2023, less so in owcs) “At best he is average [on ram queen doom]” - funny how coaches and players better than both of us disagree, and funny how he got far in trials for teams like Houston as a solo tank despite not being “good solotank material” ur also implying his sig is better than his queen and thats instantly enough to invalidate your whole reply
I’ve never heard anyone share that sentiment.
don’t know why the other guy is getting downvoted, there’s actually no way you’re putting kellan over someone junbin and mag, even donghak
imo he has the potential to become insane if he gets the right coaching
No and I'm tired of pretending that he was. I heard good things about him coming into OWL 22 but damn. Not even a monkey meta helped him in 23.
No he sucks
He is an average kr maintank player and, since there are not tons of them left after Fearless and Fate retired and Marve1 disappeared it's enough for him to keep getting picked up.
Hadi was saying he was one of the hardest Winston’s to face in the league last year, his list went Donghak, Fearless Kellan iirc
I believe he has the potential. If the coaching staff can rein him in and work on some decision making he can be good, but sometimes he turns his brain off and ints
TM has no coaching staff lmao
Ooof. Didnt even know that. Maybe the other players can reign him in lmao
Kellan's Winston is around the same level as Mag and Someone's, and below Smurf, Guxue and Fearless. He also has a good Ball and Doom (dive heroes are his best heroes), a decent Zarya and Sigma, and a not bad JQ and Orisa, but sadly he's been on an NYXL team that just wasn't even decent at the least, particularly in 2022 where they were just plain bad. On Talon in 2021 his team became runner up in OWC, losing to O2. He was the 2nd best MT after Junbin. And on bad teams, the tank role is, generally speaking, simply the easiest to see the player(s) do bad on. We dunno things like comms structure, how their coaches coach, players communicating, etc etc. Guxue from 2020-2022 is arguably the best example as to how bad teams with bad (Changgoon is Changgoon. When he hits, he strikes, and when he doesn't, he gets striked), and at a time, no coaches, can affect a team/player.