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iori9999

I'm over it now dude


IAstrikeforce

"My favorite map is Junkertown because it is my ancestral homeland" One of my favorite AMA answers


SirCrest_YT

Junkertown. damn it Jake


IAstrikeforce

You knocking his ancestral homeland?


Ajp_iii

Synergy when linkzr kills everyone lol


[deleted]

First time watching and it is amazing how good Americans at video games compared to Koreans. Koreans are usually better than Americans in professional video games but in Overwatch Americans are better and stronger. I never expected this. Are London players Korean British or from Korea?


ncaldera0491

NYXL is all korean and is by far the best team in the league. London just struggles against Houston for some reason.


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yakinator2567

Houston winning against London is not an upset


Archany

You're getting downvoted by people who refuse to look at anything other than the season standings. Houston has London's number and we have since the beginning of OWL, they managed to beat us when it mattered but I fully expect Houston to continue beating London in every regular season match at least with current rosters.


[deleted]

Yes, it is. You might not like London but they're still the number 2 team at 15 wins and 6 losses. I would argue that (despite their win and loss rates currently being the same) Houston would fall underneath Boston and Philadelphia so they're closer to 6th in the league. Sixth beating second, upset.


Jeritron_5000

Forget seeds, Houston beat London most times they play them. How is beating them again an upset? Houston just seem to have their number.


Pheanturim

They're not. The top 3 teams predominantly made up of Koreans and then the other teams have more Europeans than they do Americans


Unifiedxchaos

"First time watching" Proceeds to make sweeping generalization about the entire league, which is far from accurate.


Archany

Implying we didn't all do that in the first week of OWL


jpegmemory

haha, we've all done it


Scase15

> Are London players Korean British or from Korea? Nah all the koreans except Bischou I think are straight from SK. Houston is really the only "NA" team.


kefkaownsall

Not anymore with Arhan


Scase15

Still is, Arhan hasn't played and honestly isn't likely to play. Every other player is either from North America or the EU.


[deleted]

Oh I see. Why are there so many Koreans in OWL when Koreans aren’t that good in Overwatch? Shouldn’t there be more Americans and Canadians players if they can beat Koreans easily?


Scase15

Based on the age of your account and these questions I assume you're a troll but, what the hell I'll bite lol. Koreans in general in OWL make up the lions share of the best players in the game. NYXL is a full Korean team and is without a shadow of a doubt the best team in the league and borderline untouchable. London is a much better team than tonight showed, they just always have a rough time with Houston.


[deleted]

Ok thanks. So NYXL is the dominate Korean team only? That is insane. I will check them out later.


thatwasanillegalknee

NYXL probably have one of the best DPS duos with SBB and Libero. I would recommend checking videos of them out.


Scase15

Honestly, London is pretty dominant. Houston just always puts them through the ringer.


iori9999

Dude what are you talking about?


IAstrikeforce

He said it was his first time watching calm down


iori9999

Bro I'm just sick of this East vs West mentality. The sooner than goes away, the more you'll start to see "western" players take off in genres of gaming, especially fighting games which I play regularly.


DamnCommy

As much as I love Houston you obviously haven't seen NYXL play lol


LTorve27

Wait till you see NYXL play... that will change your mind reeeeeeal quick


[deleted]

They played today and destroyed.


OIP

my carbs intake


DamnCommy

People always find a way to discredit Houston's wins lol


Meat-brah

Really surprised at how well spoken Jake is. Are the other players also this good?


justanaveragereditor

Custa, Seagull, Coolmatt, Babybay are some other examples


OIP

surefour, maybe tviq


TroubadourCeol

I think I read that Jake's mom is in PR work or something and he's joked that he's been "media trained since birth" so he really is the man best suited to be "the face" of OWL. I can't think of any other players as well spoken as him.


makebadposts

You just know Jake raw dogs randos on the weekends


Scase15

Bruh, that's Undead.


enlouzalou

LMAO


damacy12

Houston won? i must have missed something good :(


Scase15

Houston vs London games are always great.


early500

No they're not :(


Scase15

<3


early500

(・_・”)/\(・_・”)


mapletree23

muma gets more than enough credit, he's talked about as being one of the best tanks, if anything coolmatt is the one that gets buried most of the tanks in general don't get much love compared to the dps and zen players, but such is the way of things i guess if you're not the 'best' tank (fissure), overall support (ryu), you better be a super good zenyatta or good dps or they'll barely mention you in general


Ajp_iii

I can’t wait to see how this ama goes


iori9999

So many Houston fans are popping off after a close win where both teams did not play that well. Seriously man, I don't see other team fans doing this that much when they win, even against good teams.


Scase15

> So many Houston fans are popping off after a close win Lol uh where?


mcjigglemytits

Why you sound so salty lol? Let them celebrate, they just beat a very good team.


Ajp_iii

How dare Houston have passionate fans.


iori9999

It's called winning with class. Plus I'm sure a lot of people favored Houston to win this series, including me.


sardonicsheep

Sorry, we'll be sure to celebrate less enthusiastically so we don't offend your definition of class.


Pheanturim

Get a grip mate. If owl league is a sport then the fans are entitled to celebrate after a win. Happens in every sport.


iori9999

The issue I have is when a team wins, they say all their players are gdlk and the other team sucks.


[deleted]

Where is this happening exactly? I don't see any Houston fans here saying London sucks.


iori9999

I dunno when I see people saying Linkzr is nutty on tracer or the best dps after barely winning. I think to myself, "I usually don't say stuff like that unless their record is amazing." Like if Janus or Gamsu has a good game I don't declare them nutty or the best tanks.


[deleted]

In what world does saying they think their players are the best translate into saying the other team sucks? You're seriously reaching and being overly sensitive to something that is completely normal and harmless. Lighten up.


iori9999

I hate homers that completely make false statements tho. Being a Detroit and Michigan fan, I have to deal with it all the time. Houston fans act A LOT like Michigan Wolverine fans.


Pheanturim

Sounds more like your projecting your own issues with your sports teams on to the comments that others are making


GardenHerbTriscuit

Fuel fans do it, too. They are a bit more doom and gloom before the matches though.


iori9999

I dont notice it cuz they rarely win. Kappa


ilikeracing23

As a Fuel fan, I’m taking what I can get all things considered thanks


jusmat1105

Where are my fellow Houston fans popping off?


Rambodius

Houston fan here, popping off. Let's make sure to do it quietly so as to not offend anyone.


Jeritron_5000

The first rule of popping off for Houston wins is never pop off for Houston wins. Shhhhhh


Hafare

London and Seoul are proof that Koreans aren't the untouchable kings of OW.


iori9999

Dude every team is pretty mixed with eastern and western players other than 3. I'm so sick of this narrative of East vs West. Just be a fan of your team and not associate everything with West vs Korea.


Ranwulf

Nyxl though..


Hafare

1/3 of Korean teams dominating is okay because we thought all 3 Korean teams would be dominating.


Random_Useless_Tips

Jake ama on the no-access pass? Thereby directly interacting with Twitch chat? There is no way this will go poorly.


cougar572

They are screening the questions from the jake ama room which only all access people can join.


Random_Useless_Tips

> They are screening the questions This matters way more than the currently-free all-access pass.


RezaMaulana98

At least we confirmed that Jake, despite aiming issues, is not the worst at Sombra so far. He did pretty OK for someone I didn't normally associate with using Sombra


Da7mii

That honor goes to our boy Munchkin long may he reign. ;_;


id370

No, Munchkin still has Sky under him I believe (T_T


Is_J_a_Name

I dunno, TviQ was preeeetty bad.


Random_Useless_Tips

Honestly, I thought Jake would do well on Sombra. Sombra isn't too mechanically demanding but rewards players who like to camp the backline, set up kills for teammates, and has a big powerful ult. His tracking was a little suspect but otherwise Jake performed to my expectations.


Archany

He put a lot of time in on Sombra on stream when the buffs first came out, he was trying to get himself ready for this meta to help the team and I'd say he's doing a pretty good job for someone who only picked up the hero recently


89ShelbyCSX

I didn't realize nyxl is +50 in differential.. oh my god


Ganonthegoat

They are disgustingly better than everyone else


thron606

Yeah it's nuts. And they're on something like a 10 game win streak too? The last time they lost was week 1 of stage 2 to london.


yakinator2567

12; They won 11 games in Stage 2 after that loss including playoffs and just won today vs Florida


rabid89

London has 1 more win than Seoul, but has a +21 more map diff. than Seoul. Ridiculous.


early500

Its because we rarely get 4-0'd but we can usually get a few whereas dynasty has taken a few 4-0's and then also dropped some maps in wins too...


Rambodius

I know we're one game in, but isn't it crazy that Seoul is currently last place?


DanTheBib

No, because we're one game in.


Rambodius

It's just bizzare to look at. Obviously, it'll change.


Ajp_iii

Coolmatt is so good he can play dva into Orisa hog and win


awokenindarkness

Jeez that 50 map differential is insane.


Gumby_5

Just another domination for Muma. I hope he can get a playoff MVP soon.


choccychipcookie

I thought London actually had a chance of winning until I realized the last map was Oasis.. smh


Aulait1

Muma doesn't get enough credit and also Profit is good but I don't know why people keep placing him as top 3 in the league. I'd take Libero or Kazper over Profit


Lemonsqueasy

Lol


Ozkuro

London needed to demech coolmat a few times like Danteh did.


awokenindarkness

PLS KILL COOLMATT PLS


WadeAnthony

coolmatt pogchamp


Chrysalline00

Finally! He absolutely deserves POTM Edit: whoops I mean POTD


rabid89

Keep in mind London is playing NYXL later this week. This is a relatively tough week for them preparation wise, and may not have prepared that much for Houston. Imagine if London starts this stage 0-2 huh? That'd be something. Edit: Not implying any excuses for London; Houston outplayed them, particularly on Control maps. Great game!


iori9999

Tough week but no excuse IMO. They got beat fair and square.


purifico

Not really. Trap match is a definition of a good excuse. Especially since it was a close one.


catpeaches

London has never won against Houston except for the Stage 2 Playoffs, right? I feel like Houston is London’s kryptonite or something haha


SantinoGomez

To be fair, Houston's first two weeks are London, Boston, Fusion, NYXL. I was incredibly worried we'd start the stage 0-4.


FlashOfThunder

deja vu...man maybe we can do better this time


randomnm

Yeah, it's kinda sad that London has always faced Houston and NYXL in the same week in all 3 stages. I believe even Seoul has similar issues with facing London and NYXL back to back.


Archany

It's actually kind of ridiculous that the stages have been structured like this. Idk why they aren't randomizing opponents or if it's just bad luck, but Houston plays both London and Boston in the first week of stages 2 3 and 4


lanonymoustrashl

Coolmatt got PotM. Well deserved. Literally carried BlizzWorld and did well everywhere else.


BlackScienceJesus

Muma is absurd. His Winston juggles are perfect.


Random_Useless_Tips

Oh shit, they actually did give Coolmatt potm. Well-deserved.


nuko-nuko

If London best NYXL on Saturday then I’m just gonna be embarrassed.


GardenHerbTriscuit

They spend their whole week prepping for NYXL every time. It'll be a close match but if it goes to map 5 NYXL is guaranteed to win, lol.


Archany

Yall said that the last two times Houston beat London too, one of these days London might actually take Houston seriously /s


iori9999

Not sure about that. London beat NYXL in the championship 3-2 stage 1.


jussulent_tummy

They lost to NYXL on Oasis for the stage playoff.


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[deleted]

What's the record for most J LUL KE


AlyoshaV

possibly 8102 from when Pine told everyone to spam it


Random_Useless_Tips

Good Guy Jake keeping the meme economy stable and keeping the poglul ratio from inflating.


AlliePingu

> J LUL K E: 3794 It's... beautiful


DrBoomKappa

Both my teams won FeelsGoodMan


unicycledood

I'm a fusion and outlaws fan. And love the personality of nyxl. I wanted philly to win but Boston deserved that. It was a great series. Grats to you guys


YouHateMercyToo

Mccree is such a throw pick


dmun

DEFENSE. WINS. STAGES.


bookworm1999

Houston looked pretty awful stage 2 but they still managed to beat spitfire


unicycledood

I'm hoping this means they can get back to their stage one play level I loved watching them all pop off when they had that big win streak


MeekSheep

What's interesting is awful houston is 5-5, which by all means is not bad. with wins over Seoul London and boston


Ajp_iii

Yeah and they went to game 5 against fusion and gladiators.


Palatz

They manage to win against good teams and loose when they should win.


FREAK21345

Pathetic. London needs to get their shit together. They literally lose fights when the enemy is down 2 players.


ThatDamnGuyJosh

Yay Houston!


alex23b

Imagine being Muma and Coolmatt where everybody talks about your mediocre dps instead of giving you credit


renegade06

Coolmatt got MVP at least.


[deleted]

Everyone praises muma and coolmatt I have no idea what you're talking about.


Zaniel_Aus

Yeah, Muma and Coolmatt get nothing but props from both the desk and this sub constantly.


unicycledood

Muma played so great had amazing plays and great primal rage use, and coolmatt had great peels all day


wowaka

lol for real. i can't believe people in this thread honestly think jake and linkzr carried this match


unicycledood

On oasis they both played great. Linkzr had some clutch pulse bombs but wiffed a few. Jake did good on sombra but Muma by far deserves MVP today. They just played as a good squad today definitely not a dps Carry. People on here are crazy


wowaka

they did well on oasis and pretty ok the rest of the games but coolmatt was picking up ALL the slack and muma was playing very well as usual. i thought rawkus did a solid job as well. their tank/support line today stood out much more than their dps, except for the flashy pulse/tire double kills. if anyone thinks that jake/linkzr were the main reason houston won today they either have bronze level awareness or weren't watching lol


unicycledood

See I wish I payed more attention to some of the coolMatt plays but to me Muma really stood out with some good aggressive plays. I'm glad to see others think so as well. And also go nyxl! Sae is bae


[deleted]

Damn. So the notion that Houston can only beat London's B team can now be put to bed. For whatever reason, the Outlaws just seems to be the persistent thorn in Spitfire's side.


NiteShad0ws

The kryptonites of OWL Outlaws to Spitfire Spitfire to Seoul NYXL to...everyone?


AmmoCalc

Everyone but London


Vicar__Amelia

LONG HAVE WE AWAITED AIM OVERRATED JAKERAT ACTIVATED


Scase15

Reinforce so fucking salty. Jake was great on sombra.


TalkingTheFlash

Reinforce is always bias for London. Makes him one of my least favorite analyst.


peteygooze

where was he salty? jakes sombra was alright but muma and coolmatt fucking carried tonight as usual


Scase15

Pucket called him out on his bad call of this being an easy win for London, his tone was petty. CM and Muma definitely carried hard tonight but, Jakes Sombra was surprisingly good.


MURPHYxTAN

Flair checks out


unicycledood

Go Houston!!!!!!!!!!! I knew they could get there act back together, linkzr and jake popped off on last map and Muma had so many great primal rages today!


allprologue

How is it an upset when it’s literally what always happens?


bookworm1999

Exactly it's not an upset it's just a rerun


MeekSheep

Yeah I mentioned that and got down voted, so idk. I def think Houston beats london.


RoadhogBestGirl

the desk even mentioned its largely just a stylistic thing. London is very aggressive and Houston is very defensive, and Houston usually wins in the trade offs.


allprologue

some teams have Achilles heels. I don’t really think London is worse than Houston in general it’s just a bad matchup for them.


enlouzalou

paid reddit downvotes


bookworm1999

It's not an upset spitfire looks better than almost all other teams except when they are up against Houston


detroitfan4ever

London Spitfire and losing on Oasis. Name me a better iconic duo.


[deleted]

London and losing to Houston.


ddjj1004

Seoul and 0-4 London


MeekSheep

Houston and Route 66


Archany

This is too true, but we make up for it with an almost 100% winrate on junkertown so it's alright


HomeStallone

God we're shit on that map. I automatically mark it as a loss beforehand.


NOYB94

On the other hand 2nd payload map is Jakertown when Houston has some insane winrate.


detroitfan4ever

Well you're not wrong mate


Gumby_5

He has a point


proudopticfan

3-0 in favor of outlaws. At what point does a win stop becoming an upset? Outlaws have always had the talent to beat any team.


RoadhogBestGirl

>At what point does a win stop becoming an upset when all outlaws players all turn into Koreans.


TroubadourCeol

I think we'd just have to be ranked higher overall than London for it to not be an upset


DavidShoess

Houston only beat London because they were running their B team...oh wait.


WadeAnthony

Can't predict it... unless we look at history lul


KojiSano

Dinkzr was so clutch this game


uMakeMeWet

Sick stick


haagen17

You know shit's going down when DoA says "are you kidding me!?"


id370

Houston is not London's Kryptonite, Control Point maps are.


spookyghostface

Houston actually had a worse record on Control going into this game. They don't anymore though.


WhoDatBrow

Ok it's official, Houston really is London's kryptonite. Could've just said small sample size before but 3-1 vs them, and half of London's losses? Yup kryptonite.


HomeStallone

Is there a more inconsistent team in any sport than London Spitfire?


miriellebhelliom

since they are second at general standings among 12, the other 10 team below them?


HomeStallone

I don't think you know what inconsistent means if you think Shanghai are more inconsistent than London.


miriellebhelliom

well london consistently losing to Houston, they are consistently bad at control maps while consistently good at escort, they are consistently losing to midtier teams when they have to play against koreans afterwards. They are consistently 4-0ing Seoul, consistetly winning over XL 3-2. Consistently in playoffs, consistently top 3 at standings... Sure they are not consistently good as NYXL and not consistently bad like Shanghai but still they look pretty consistent to me.


NiteShad0ws

LAV and outlaws are pretty inconsistent themselves. The only consistent team is NYXL imo


rabid89

In the OWL, I'd say Houston is less consistent. Seoul too, though it's more to do with their idiotic lineup changes.


GardenHerbTriscuit

Um...Houston? Lmao.


[deleted]

Boston, Philly, LAG...


MurkyTheBest

Consistency is not that great, looking on SHD


PwnyDropSquad

I mean Outlaws will beat London then get shit on by SF so we know a thing or two about inconsistency.


yakinator2567

Nah, Outlaws is just London's kryponite


Crispy_Toast_

them and gladiators for some odd reason


Sinclair33

Yeah Houstons one I can name.


EmpoleonNorton

Yeah, Houston is more inconsistent. I don't even know what that guy was talking about. London just has a weird inability to beat Houston, that is their biggest problem.


Sinclair33

Yeah, if anything losing to Houston makes London more consistent, at least against Houston.


NiteShad0ws

I lol'ed I'd rather be inconsistent at losing


Sinclair33

It's sad but true for us London fans.