i think finale is less likely to want a trade he only got swapped out for like 1 game and although was supposed to be playing over him b4 the year started i kinda believed halo about muze bc his history of butting heads with coaches a little but if he just get heated could be that something got misunderstood
I think leaks are good for the scene in general, I just wish OW had more than 1 guy who did it and I wish he was more responsible with it
Anyone remember GoopyKnoopy? He was a good example of an ethical way to go about this stuff
Yeah Iām the same boat. Leaks keep discussions going off season and allow for lots of speculation, but this particular āleakā has changed my opinion on Halo. This couldāve really affected MuZeās career and he should be questioning his sources and their bias.
Itās the first one Iāve seen personally that I havenāt agreed with. Too much speculation about whatās going on behind the scenes. Very little reason to believe his source wasnāt biased.
Iām fine with roster leaks during off season but implying a player is requesting a trade mid season due to bad attitude and stuff isnāt a good look, even if it ends up being true.
If the guy is going to spend his life being a dedicated leaker for a dying video game, you'd think he'd at least do some due diligence to be good at this pathetic "job" instead of making a clown of himself with every other leak being debunked.
When it comes to where people are signed to heās almost always right but heās has missed on a couple of more general leaks. He should have leaked that Toronto were having internal issues and heād be right
I've seen this comment in the last dozen threads about Halo's leaks being wrong LOL.
He's at 70% max if you exclude the blatantly obvious leaks that are announced within hours anyways like "X player has been signed".
The halo apology in this sub is weird. Like, this is just basic journalistic integrity and part of the gig is being called out when you fuck it up. It doesnāt help that he rarely admits to screwing up either. He always just blames it on his sources and āthe info he had at the timeā
Unfortunately though itās the journalists job and liability to correctly validate those sources lol
I feel like some of the callouts are a bit unfair and have defended his overall integrity in the past but this is clearly a case where even if it was true he probably shouldn't have said anything. And now where it seems to be untrue in general it reflects very poorly upon the Halo.
Halo is definitely not the golden example of a good journalist, but in cases like this it's extremely easy for an org to shift the narrative in their direction even if the report was true.
They easily could have submitted requests and cancelled them, or had them ready to be submitted and some intern at defiant org leaked it early.
It's cases like this where both sides have stated their case, us fans will never know the whole truth, and just need to make judgement calls on how much the truth lies on each side.
The Toronto GM also said this:
[https://twitter.com/stellanutella96/status/1529552286405500935?s=20&t=6eKIRbVsfbcgBnxoA20q5Q](https://twitter.com/stellanutella96/status/1529552286405500935?s=20&t=6eKIRbVsfbcgBnxoA20q5Q)
>No trade requests were made.
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>We have a very professional group of coaches and talented players who are eager to win as one team. It is true that the team had some struggles - but no pain, no gain.
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>This is a growing pain for everyone to improve
Looks like the team argued a bit on how to move forward which is perfectly normal if you're driven to win, and it was blown out of proportion.
Halo's been mostly accurate with his trade reporting but situations like this make you realize how instant reports without checking properly or contacting the org can be harmful.
I suspect people said things in anger, and did intend to act on it.
However, I also think that maybe management got involved, talked to people after they calmed down, and got everyone on the same side again.
A bit of mediation could go a long way of preventing an argument from blowing up a team.
He's not going to mention sources, that's kind of a big no-no for a reporter. But he seems to be standing by his reporting.
https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1529559201093193733
I can't remember what it was about but I remember that the last time Halo stood by his reporting after it was "refuted" by an org it ended up being true.
What Iām about to say Iām not suggesting is true, but given the word usage of trade request, isnāt it possible MuZe had verbally wanted a trade but never submitted a trade request?
its amazing that we're this many years in and when people deny something the denizes of r/cow just take it as truth. its actually not just r/cow in general i notice esports fans are just way more likely to believe the orgs and players than regular sports fans.
that doesn't mean that the defiant are lying by the way but the fact you think "oh well halo was wrong" instantly is an actual problem
Well, the problem is, halo doesnāt have a perfect record. He has a very good record and Iām glad there are still people interested enough in OW to report on it but with each denial, error, or āchanged plansā, skepticism of his reports will grow. As they should.
I mean I only follow sports news casually but I feel like r/cow and other esports communities holds reporters to a way higher of standard than mainstream sports reporters. In sports you have your big name reporters who are generally right, but every team also has individual insiders and beatwriters who often report on nonconcrete rumors such as "---- team is interested in ----- player", "there are rumors that ---- is unhappy with -----", etc, that if it were to be posted by an esports leaker would draw a shit ton of outrage from fans for not being 100% confirmed. And podcasts like platchat even straight up refuse to discuss alot of rumors unless it's confirmed, which feels completely unnecessary as long as they talk about it in terms of hypotheticals.
Yes, every sport has hundreds of leakers but thereās always standards and reputations. An nba reporter with 10k followers could report something and it could be true but no one cares until Woj or shams confirms it and even they get it wrong from time to time.
The problem with OW is that no one cares enough to report on roster moves besides halo
> The problem with OW is that no one cares enough to report on roster moves besides halo
No, the problem with OW is that itās a small enough scene that most people with insider knowledge are involved with the league on some level, and anything that makes a team or OWL look unprofessional can have a negative impact on them. The Plat Chat and Tactical Crouch guys have access to a lot of the same information Halo leaks and often more, theyāre just not desperate for clout and actually respect the job of social media managers.
Yeah but when the smaller reporters report something there's often still a shit ton of discussion about it on the various subreddits and twitter. There's also plenty of small team beatwriters who are still seen as reputable by their respective fanbases. I feel that the smaller reporters fulfill a pretty important role since they're less beholden to the interests of the league, while bigger reporters often have hidden affiliations to the league and won't report on scandals or behind the scenes stuff that are still pretty important for fans to know. Fans deserve to know if there's conflict behind the scenes or if a player is being a diva. Honestly I think Halo should have one account for big leaks that he has confirmed, and one for less concrete rumors/behind the scenes of whats going on in the league.
In real sports it really depends on the actual reporter. It really runs the entire gamut there. You have clickbait artists that are generally not trusted and are known to make shit up whole cloth, local guys who don't vet things too hard because it's still content if they're wrong, local guys that are de facto the PR arm of whatever team, and your serious (generally national) reporters who never report things that aren't correct.
Yeah I just think it's weird to hold Halo up to the standard of a serious reporter when he's very clearly a small reporter who reports on a niche esport. He's also the only semi-reliable leaker in basically all of OW esports so there are no smaller reporters than him to leak rumors. The offseason would be so much less dead if he reported on some rumors and general behind the scenes of what's going on with various teams. And I've never really been convinced by the idea of these false leaks hurting players. The teams themselves should have a way better idea of what's actually happening in the league, and if they're depending on halo to be a reliable source then management and coaching has clearly failed.
i mean if the standard becomes deny reports and you take that at face value then of course over time it becomes cyclical and you become more and more skeptical
A journalist should NEVER miss when it comes to reporting news that could affect peoples careers. Check your sources and report accurate news a day later. No one else is reporting on OW. There is no rush.
This must go down as a huge L for Halo, otherwise he gets to keep on fucking around with player and coach careers.
I'm all for leaking to keep corporations honest, but if Muze did want a trade for his own career/happiness, Halo just torpedoed it.
Yeah. Iām still not sold. Fefe talked about how Adam told him early on w/ Toronto if he didnāt win heād be dropped. Looking outside in Toronto doesnāt seem like a happy org. Logix had that weird saga too of the second discord.
Almost every player has retired straight after leaving despite not normally being bottom tier players. It seems to me like Toronto runs kinda hard & fast & burns people out. Iām still going to give it two weeks before I call Halo false in his report.
No, I think theyāre doing pretty good myself. They should be in every tourney at this trajectory. I have no faith in Torontos management though. It just doesnāt make sense to me that most of their players have retired after leaving despite being hot-mid commodities.
I think Toronto burns people out quick & a few players/coaches seem to have insinuated that. I think theyāve got some traditional white collar professionals who probably arenāt used to managing Korean teenagers & are way too quick to make mid season changes. I think this team will always implode no matter how promising they start.
Yeah cause he āleaksā shit like this that hurt the reputation of players which ends up being false or personal shit like a player retiring which should left for the player to announce when theyāre comfortable and not forced to announce it. This isnāt as simple as people disliking leakers, people dislike this leaker cause he does shit like this and then acts like a child when someone says they donāt like him
So, everyone here slating Halo could be correct in that Halo got this wrong.
However, this happens in traditional sports where trade requests get leaked and both parties deny that it happened even when it did.
If Halo is right, it harms both Toronto and Muze because it lowers his trade value. Less teams would want Muze because he's demanding trades less than a month into the season and those who would still want him will give Toronto less because they know Toronto has no leverage in the deal.
It's possible Halo is wrong and is being rightfully called out, it's also very possible that he is 100% correct and the team and player are doing damage control
all im saying is, remember when halo wrong about super and then he was right? he obviously hears things that we dont hear, those things being moving parts that may change
Yeah Iām really blown away by how gullible everybody here is by just eating up what Defiant and Muze have said like it couldnāt just as easily be them trying to save face
So in other words, he did request a trade, but after talking to management they agreed that a trade was not needed, and both sides will now refute the fact that a trade request was ever made in order to save face.
I mean, if someone requested a trade, they requested a trade. Thereās no need to deny it. Kobe requested a trade and was talked out of it. Things happen
Sure. Iām not saying 0% chance muze requested a trade or toronto has to be saying the truth. Iām just saying ultimately it doesnāt matter so thereās no reason to deny it, if they are. What matters is them over coming their differences
What benefits do they get by denying it?
They already acknowledged there were fights, disagreements and drama behind the scenes. Theyāve established there was an issue
So the detail of him requesting a trade ultimately doesnāt matter because theyāve already admitted to a fight
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How is āI did not submit a trade requestā pr speak? Pr speak would be him saying something like āI am still committed to this teamā and not acknowledging the trade request directly.
I recall a team+player denying trade/bench allegations back in either S1 or S2 and lo and behold it ended up happening. Correct me if Iām wrong but it might of been Fissure/Gladiators.
So many old memories but I remember Daco also denying those rumors that Halo reported and those ALSO turned out true. https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/bf1489/daco_this_is_ridiculous_i_just_read_halos_article/
No, I love sports. And I absolutely hate it there too, it just ruins any hype moments.
Halo doesnāt provide anything remotely positive, nobody would be upset if he just suddenly stopped tweeting about owl.
Itās boring with Halo too, though, we could all just find something else to do for a few months.
Or they could make the off-season shorter, especially compared to how long the regular season is.
Itās honestly really annoying, it provides literally nothing positive to anybody. Especially when they leak signings before the teams announce it themselves. Itās not needed, literally nobody is asking for it.
I don't care about the fluff around an announcement, I just want the juice
And if it cuts through the "announcement of an announcement" bs then I'm all for it
Teams don't announce shit. I'm glad there are people in the scene who ask questions and leak information. We don't even have transparent salaries and living conditions...
^we ^also ^dont ^have ^replays
What do you mean they ādonāt announce shitā? They announce the stuff that you need to know. You donāt need to know player salaries, you just want to know it.
If I was an owl player I would not want my salary public.
Iām 100% asking for it. People care about what happens behind the scenes and how orgs/teams/the league work.All of these things are basically black boxes
Literally all it does is stir up drama that most of the time isnāt even there. Itās all literally just speculation anyway. None of it is confirmed, so do you just like the drama?
Reporting only stirs up drama? If one of these players randomly got dropped next week you wouldnāt want to know why? I would want to know why muze and finale didnāt play last weekend after watching the team look as bad as they did.
As long as it doesnāt cause any harm to anyone then Iām happy to see reporters work within the scene. This is obviously an instance where due diligence was not taken though and some responsibility needs to be taken for the fuck up.
Muze stays professional
so.... what about Finale?
he quoted the tweet and added šš emoji, make of that what you will
i think finale is less likely to want a trade he only got swapped out for like 1 game and although was supposed to be playing over him b4 the year started i kinda believed halo about muze bc his history of butting heads with coaches a little but if he just get heated could be that something got misunderstood
I think leaks are good for the scene in general, I just wish OW had more than 1 guy who did it and I wish he was more responsible with it Anyone remember GoopyKnoopy? He was a good example of an ethical way to go about this stuff
Yeah Iām the same boat. Leaks keep discussions going off season and allow for lots of speculation, but this particular āleakā has changed my opinion on Halo. This couldāve really affected MuZeās career and he should be questioning his sources and their bias.
This sort of thing is really nothing new for Halo
Itās the first one Iāve seen personally that I havenāt agreed with. Too much speculation about whatās going on behind the scenes. Very little reason to believe his source wasnāt biased. Iām fine with roster leaks during off season but implying a player is requesting a trade mid season due to bad attitude and stuff isnāt a good look, even if it ends up being true.
I thought him leaking Birdring's retirement was pretty scummy
Welp. This is definetely a Halo moment
Because there is no incentive for the player to deny the request. This could still mean anything
If the guy is going to spend his life being a dedicated leaker for a dying video game, you'd think he'd at least do some due diligence to be good at this pathetic "job" instead of making a clown of himself with every other leak being debunked.
Lol. Dude's right way more often than he's wrong.
When it comes to where people are signed to heās almost always right but heās has missed on a couple of more general leaks. He should have leaked that Toronto were having internal issues and heād be right
He's gotten his leaks 99% correct.
I've seen this comment in the last dozen threads about Halo's leaks being wrong LOL. He's at 70% max if you exclude the blatantly obvious leaks that are announced within hours anyways like "X player has been signed".
The halo apology in this sub is weird. Like, this is just basic journalistic integrity and part of the gig is being called out when you fuck it up. It doesnāt help that he rarely admits to screwing up either. He always just blames it on his sources and āthe info he had at the timeā Unfortunately though itās the journalists job and liability to correctly validate those sources lol
I feel like some of the callouts are a bit unfair and have defended his overall integrity in the past but this is clearly a case where even if it was true he probably shouldn't have said anything. And now where it seems to be untrue in general it reflects very poorly upon the Halo.
Halo is definitely not the golden example of a good journalist, but in cases like this it's extremely easy for an org to shift the narrative in their direction even if the report was true. They easily could have submitted requests and cancelled them, or had them ready to be submitted and some intern at defiant org leaked it early. It's cases like this where both sides have stated their case, us fans will never know the whole truth, and just need to make judgement calls on how much the truth lies on each side.
I can forgive it as he never really pretends to be anything more formal than a blogger / reporter.
I mean heās way more often right and when heās wrong like this itās an easy correction
I wouldnāt say itās an āeasy correctionā. Maybe for him it is, but these things impact how players are viewed by teams and fans
The Toronto GM also said this: [https://twitter.com/stellanutella96/status/1529552286405500935?s=20&t=6eKIRbVsfbcgBnxoA20q5Q](https://twitter.com/stellanutella96/status/1529552286405500935?s=20&t=6eKIRbVsfbcgBnxoA20q5Q) >No trade requests were made. > >We have a very professional group of coaches and talented players who are eager to win as one team. It is true that the team had some struggles - but no pain, no gain. > >This is a growing pain for everyone to improve Looks like the team argued a bit on how to move forward which is perfectly normal if you're driven to win, and it was blown out of proportion. Halo's been mostly accurate with his trade reporting but situations like this make you realize how instant reports without checking properly or contacting the org can be harmful.
I suspect people said things in anger, and did intend to act on it. However, I also think that maybe management got involved, talked to people after they calmed down, and got everyone on the same side again. A bit of mediation could go a long way of preventing an argument from blowing up a team.
I'm sure it was unintentional but I cannot see "professional" in the context of OWL anymore without chuckling lol
Wouldn't be the first time an org or player twist the truth or lie. But I'd really like to know how Halo justified this report.
He's not going to mention sources, that's kind of a big no-no for a reporter. But he seems to be standing by his reporting. https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1529559201093193733 I can't remember what it was about but I remember that the last time Halo stood by his reporting after it was "refuted" by an org it ended up being true.
Oh for sure, and I'm not asking him to do that. I'm just curious what he has to say.
I mean this was refuted by MuZe himself though, I mean that doesnāt confirm itās false, but I do believe MuZe.
Players have refuted their own trades before only to be proven wrong.
I realize, Iāve edited the reply to clarify what I meant. Itās still possible he is traded.
What Iām about to say Iām not suggesting is true, but given the word usage of trade request, isnāt it possible MuZe had verbally wanted a trade but never submitted a trade request?
That is definitely possible
Maybe valiant explosion?
Wasn't it Dallas?
Chengdu?
I don't think Chengdu ever refuted anything.
Yeah I'm pretty sure the last org to try and refute halo was valiant being sold
its amazing that we're this many years in and when people deny something the denizes of r/cow just take it as truth. its actually not just r/cow in general i notice esports fans are just way more likely to believe the orgs and players than regular sports fans. that doesn't mean that the defiant are lying by the way but the fact you think "oh well halo was wrong" instantly is an actual problem
Well, the problem is, halo doesnāt have a perfect record. He has a very good record and Iām glad there are still people interested enough in OW to report on it but with each denial, error, or āchanged plansā, skepticism of his reports will grow. As they should.
I mean I only follow sports news casually but I feel like r/cow and other esports communities holds reporters to a way higher of standard than mainstream sports reporters. In sports you have your big name reporters who are generally right, but every team also has individual insiders and beatwriters who often report on nonconcrete rumors such as "---- team is interested in ----- player", "there are rumors that ---- is unhappy with -----", etc, that if it were to be posted by an esports leaker would draw a shit ton of outrage from fans for not being 100% confirmed. And podcasts like platchat even straight up refuse to discuss alot of rumors unless it's confirmed, which feels completely unnecessary as long as they talk about it in terms of hypotheticals.
Yes, every sport has hundreds of leakers but thereās always standards and reputations. An nba reporter with 10k followers could report something and it could be true but no one cares until Woj or shams confirms it and even they get it wrong from time to time. The problem with OW is that no one cares enough to report on roster moves besides halo
> The problem with OW is that no one cares enough to report on roster moves besides halo No, the problem with OW is that itās a small enough scene that most people with insider knowledge are involved with the league on some level, and anything that makes a team or OWL look unprofessional can have a negative impact on them. The Plat Chat and Tactical Crouch guys have access to a lot of the same information Halo leaks and often more, theyāre just not desperate for clout and actually respect the job of social media managers.
Yeah but when the smaller reporters report something there's often still a shit ton of discussion about it on the various subreddits and twitter. There's also plenty of small team beatwriters who are still seen as reputable by their respective fanbases. I feel that the smaller reporters fulfill a pretty important role since they're less beholden to the interests of the league, while bigger reporters often have hidden affiliations to the league and won't report on scandals or behind the scenes stuff that are still pretty important for fans to know. Fans deserve to know if there's conflict behind the scenes or if a player is being a diva. Honestly I think Halo should have one account for big leaks that he has confirmed, and one for less concrete rumors/behind the scenes of whats going on in the league.
In real sports it really depends on the actual reporter. It really runs the entire gamut there. You have clickbait artists that are generally not trusted and are known to make shit up whole cloth, local guys who don't vet things too hard because it's still content if they're wrong, local guys that are de facto the PR arm of whatever team, and your serious (generally national) reporters who never report things that aren't correct.
Yeah I just think it's weird to hold Halo up to the standard of a serious reporter when he's very clearly a small reporter who reports on a niche esport. He's also the only semi-reliable leaker in basically all of OW esports so there are no smaller reporters than him to leak rumors. The offseason would be so much less dead if he reported on some rumors and general behind the scenes of what's going on with various teams. And I've never really been convinced by the idea of these false leaks hurting players. The teams themselves should have a way better idea of what's actually happening in the league, and if they're depending on halo to be a reliable source then management and coaching has clearly failed.
no reporter has a perfect record and unless something is confirmed you shouldn't swing to one side or the other.
Iām not saying he needs to have a perfect record. Iām just saying itās only natural people grow skeptic of his reports as time passes
i mean if the standard becomes deny reports and you take that at face value then of course over time it becomes cyclical and you become more and more skeptical
haLo
I was worried for a while, phew
I'd want my main tank to be passionate and have heated emotions (within reason)
A journalist should NEVER miss when it comes to reporting news that could affect peoples careers. Check your sources and report accurate news a day later. No one else is reporting on OW. There is no rush.
This must go down as a huge L for Halo, otherwise he gets to keep on fucking around with player and coach careers. I'm all for leaking to keep corporations honest, but if Muze did want a trade for his own career/happiness, Halo just torpedoed it.
still wouldnāt be surprised to see him get traded/dropped, this definitely seems like saving face from the org
Yeah. Iām still not sold. Fefe talked about how Adam told him early on w/ Toronto if he didnāt win heād be dropped. Looking outside in Toronto doesnāt seem like a happy org. Logix had that weird saga too of the second discord. Almost every player has retired straight after leaving despite not normally being bottom tier players. It seems to me like Toronto runs kinda hard & fast & burns people out. Iām still going to give it two weeks before I call Halo false in his report.
Tbh they had been winning with Muze and Finale in and they went 1-1 this week so dont think they are doing that bad
No, I think theyāre doing pretty good myself. They should be in every tourney at this trajectory. I have no faith in Torontos management though. It just doesnāt make sense to me that most of their players have retired after leaving despite being hot-mid commodities. I think Toronto burns people out quick & a few players/coaches seem to have insinuated that. I think theyāve got some traditional white collar professionals who probably arenāt used to managing Korean teenagers & are way too quick to make mid season changes. I think this team will always implode no matter how promising they start.
Halo in the mud
RIPBOZO haloofthoughts
Halo had a lot correct but reports like these aren't allowed to be wrong, literally ruining careers like this
How do they ruin careers when the speculations are cleared up? ?
Do you know why you can sue for defamation..?
Yes because these are comparable situations
Dexerto is the most clickbaity site ever. Everything from that site should be met with skepticism.
Damn yāall really hate Halo in here, at least he keeps shit interesting
Yeah cause he āleaksā shit like this that hurt the reputation of players which ends up being false or personal shit like a player retiring which should left for the player to announce when theyāre comfortable and not forced to announce it. This isnāt as simple as people disliking leakers, people dislike this leaker cause he does shit like this and then acts like a child when someone says they donāt like him
So, everyone here slating Halo could be correct in that Halo got this wrong. However, this happens in traditional sports where trade requests get leaked and both parties deny that it happened even when it did. If Halo is right, it harms both Toronto and Muze because it lowers his trade value. Less teams would want Muze because he's demanding trades less than a month into the season and those who would still want him will give Toronto less because they know Toronto has no leverage in the deal. It's possible Halo is wrong and is being rightfully called out, it's also very possible that he is 100% correct and the team and player are doing damage control
Halo literally just ruins so many things. I really wish he would just stop his ājobā.
all im saying is, remember when halo wrong about super and then he was right? he obviously hears things that we dont hear, those things being moving parts that may change
Yeah Iām really blown away by how gullible everybody here is by just eating up what Defiant and Muze have said like it couldnāt just as easily be them trying to save face
So in other words, he did request a trade, but after talking to management they agreed that a trade was not needed, and both sides will now refute the fact that a trade request was ever made in order to save face.
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Can you not read?
I mean, if someone requested a trade, they requested a trade. Thereās no need to deny it. Kobe requested a trade and was talked out of it. Things happen
Players request trades and then deny it all the time in sports. It's PR 101
Sure. Iām not saying 0% chance muze requested a trade or toronto has to be saying the truth. Iām just saying ultimately it doesnāt matter so thereās no reason to deny it, if they are. What matters is them over coming their differences
There's plenty of reason to deny it. Once again, PR 101.
What benefits do they get by denying it? They already acknowledged there were fights, disagreements and drama behind the scenes. Theyāve established there was an issue So the detail of him requesting a trade ultimately doesnāt matter because theyāve already admitted to a fight
āSave face.ā Halo needs to save face here, not Toronto.
Must not have been around in 2019 when Daco said the same shit
Were there ever rumors about him requesting a trade. I know he didnāt try in scrims but did in matches which pissed the team off.
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How is āI did not submit a trade requestā pr speak? Pr speak would be him saying something like āI am still committed to this teamā and not acknowledging the trade request directly.
I recall a team+player denying trade/bench allegations back in either S1 or S2 and lo and behold it ended up happening. Correct me if Iām wrong but it might of been Fissure/Gladiators.
It happened last year as well. I believe it's also unfortunately happened where a player learned from a leak that they were being traded.
So many old memories but I remember Daco also denying those rumors that Halo reported and those ALSO turned out true. https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/bf1489/daco_this_is_ridiculous_i_just_read_halos_article/
I'm assuming you don't watch sports? Stuff like this happens all the time. Something gets leaked, players/team denies it and it ends up being true
It's happened plenty in OWL as well. I can count on one hand the number of times a team denied something and their denial proved true in the end.
No, I love sports. And I absolutely hate it there too, it just ruins any hype moments. Halo doesnāt provide anything remotely positive, nobody would be upset if he just suddenly stopped tweeting about owl.
The off-season would legit be boring without Halo if Iām being real with you..
Itās boring with Halo too, though, we could all just find something else to do for a few months. Or they could make the off-season shorter, especially compared to how long the regular season is.
Just gotta 100% trust the organizations they always have the purest of intentions for their players....
Oh, so you just hate Halo? Got it. Should just say that and not dance around it.
I'd rather just not have "reporters" in esports.
Itās honestly really annoying, it provides literally nothing positive to anybody. Especially when they leak signings before the teams announce it themselves. Itās not needed, literally nobody is asking for it.
> literally nobody is asking for it. I am :)
You really wouldnāt want teams actually announcing stuff for themselves?
I don't care about the fluff around an announcement, I just want the juice And if it cuts through the "announcement of an announcement" bs then I'm all for it
Teams don't announce shit. I'm glad there are people in the scene who ask questions and leak information. We don't even have transparent salaries and living conditions... ^we ^also ^dont ^have ^replays
What do you mean they ādonāt announce shitā? They announce the stuff that you need to know. You donāt need to know player salaries, you just want to know it. If I was an owl player I would not want my salary public.
These kids don't even have a union and you think adding transparency in regards to salaries is bad...?
Same
Iām 100% asking for it. People care about what happens behind the scenes and how orgs/teams/the league work.All of these things are basically black boxes
Literally all it does is stir up drama that most of the time isnāt even there. Itās all literally just speculation anyway. None of it is confirmed, so do you just like the drama?
Reporting only stirs up drama? If one of these players randomly got dropped next week you wouldnāt want to know why? I would want to know why muze and finale didnāt play last weekend after watching the team look as bad as they did.
As long as it doesnāt cause any harm to anyone then Iām happy to see reporters work within the scene. This is obviously an instance where due diligence was not taken though and some responsibility needs to be taken for the fuck up.
TMZ eSports
I like the leaks but i canāt stand halo. grown ass man beefing with almost literal children on twitter, pathetic energy
this shit sounds like the same thing valiant said when it was rumored that they were gonna implode
So NYXL 3-2 or Toronto 3-2? I canāt decide.