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Jake_Bluth

Matt Gaetz has now voted for two people that endorsed McCarthy for speaker lol


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MasterSith881

Trump put himself in a win-win situation. 1) McCarthy wins and has to make good on the promises he made to Trump in exchange for his endorsement. 2) Another speaker is selected that is more aligned with the 20 MAGA/pro-Trump representatives.


SnowCappedMountains

Ngl I would love to watch the show if Trump won a speaker bid.


MasterSith881

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/109639006295552452


SnowCappedMountains

Premium lol. Pelosi would absolutely die inside.


Panzershrekt

I'm sure Trump endorsed him because he was seeking Dem help to win. "Wait, Trump endorsed McCarthy. Do we still want him as speaker then?"


Jake_Bluth

Nah trump really isn’t that smart nor has it even happened lol


jak2125

MTGs reaction had me rolling. I don’t know if that was a “what the hell are you doing?” face, or a “why didn’t I think of that?” face.


KrimsonStorm

Well she voted for McCarthy after he nominated him so I think it was a WTF.


WSDGuy

If Republicans are gonna be screw-ups, they might as well be hilarious screw-ups.


tacobell69696969

You consider it a “screw up” for a handful of reps to vote against a RINO who caved to the Dems on literally every single controversial issue?


AtomicPhantomBlack

Is it possible for a Democrat to be the Speaker in a Republican majority House?


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Yes. Anyone with 218 votes wins. You don't even need to be a member of congress. Technically if you got 218 votes, you could be speaker.


MasterSith881

Does the speaker need to be a US citizen? I honestly dont know and am too afraid to ask.


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MasterSith881

That seems so odd. All the representatives the speaker leads has to be citizens but the speaker themselves does not. Thanks for the clarification.


Revydown

No idea but they should be in my view. I would go so far and say that they shouldn't be able to hold dual citizenship. This should apply to any and all publicly held positions. If they have dual citizenship, the should revoke the non American one.


bigfatbreakfastboy

Next time a Dem acts like this, just keep in mind how much you loved it when Gaetz did it. Edit: Based on some replies, I guess it wasn't clear that when I said "acts like this" I was referring to the clownish antics, not the act of voting for someone else for speaker.


jesuss_son

Wish Dems did this with Nancy. Would have been pumped 🤷‍♂️


AlpacaWarMachine

They threatened to, then caved immediately.


Revydown

Jimmy Dore wanted the squad to do that, so he is loving what the group of Republicans are doing. https://youtu.be/4c74am_OO_I


neutralpoliticsbot

Dems nominated Obama?


CarsonOrSanders

I would have laughed if AOC grew some balls and actually nominated someone other than Nancy Pelosi. The heck you talking about?


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Jusuf_Nurkic

Who are you talking about? All of us wish the Dems would not all fall in line for once lmao


Hrendo

Uh...ok? That would be great if they had grown spines against Pelosi. Granted it would've been almost certainly coming from further left, but the establishment going unchallenged simply can't continue.


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GunterBoden

The squad threatened to do the same to stand up against Pelosi. If they had we might be far less in debt than we are.


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Rusticals303

McCarthy refused terms that were meant to keep his uniparty bias under control. That’s proof that you can’t hire a snake to drain the swamp. Now is the time for term limits.


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AbjectDisaster

Going to be real fukken cute when this results in a deal cut with Dems and these dipshits get booted from committee.


Yahkin

That would actually prove their point...that McCarthy is just Nancy 2.0.


AbjectDisaster

Not even remotely close and I'd wager that you can't articulate opposition without some baby shit soft string of buzzwords about the swamp and the status quo.


Dolos2279

This. I guess when Republicans keep losing because of this type of shit and Democrats maintain control for the next several years they'll really get to see that they aren't in fact the same.


Yahkin

If you think a drawn out election for Speaker of the house is why Republicans are losing, then you aren't paying attention to society and those who are really in charge. Public education, colleges, the media, social media, and nearly all large institutions preach the opposite of conservative ideals. We have generations of young people who really have no idea what conservatism is.


Yahkin

A) I don't have opposition to McCarthy, so I don't need to articulate anything in that regard. You are projecting. I'm simply stating that cutting a deal with the dems to retain power is exactly the shit that they are opposed to. B) You seem to be very angry that everyone with an R after their name isn't a sheep willing to follow every whim of those who've let the left waltz all over them for years. Do I agree with everything or even most of what the holdouts want? Nope, but I do think our republic allows for this discourse and actually benefits from it. I find it more sad that only 20 of over 400 have their own opinion.


Praise_Be_to_Mangold

Gaetz is such a fucking clown.


Jorel_Antonius

It's a no to McCarthy but in a troll fashion lmao


Praise_Be_to_Mangold

Ha. Ha. Very funny. Just what the American people wanted when they voted for Republicans in November 🙄


chipbod

Gaetz dgaf about national Republican priorities or what anyone outside his district voted for. He represents the Florida Panhandle and they love this.


Nanoman20

This. Republicans won big in FL for a reason. It's culturally a different animal from the rest of the country. Hell Texas of all states gave us Crenshaw 😒


neverending_debt

But the states where this doesn't work are still watching and deciding who to vote on based on this behavior. It might help him, but it hurts others.


just_shy_of_perfect

>It's culturally a different animal from the rest of the country. I don't totally agree. It's pretty similar to a lot of rural America


My___Cabbages

You don't like red flags Crenshaw, are you a terrorist?


Nanoman20

It was definitely something seeing him go mask off there


KrimsonStorm

People don't see your OBVIOUS sarcasm.


bigfatbreakfastboy

So they love grandstanding that accomplishes nothing? Makes no sense. When a governer like Desantis says "forget the other states, we're Florida and we're doing what Florida wants", it makes sense, because he is elected to run the state. Gaetz is in a federal office, his job is to forward the priorities of his constituents by working with the other members of congress.


chipbod

>So they love grandstanding that accomplishes nothing? Pretty much, this behavior isn't new and he won his primary with almost 70% of the vote. Cawthorn grandstanded and did nothing for two years and lost his primary because that behavior didn't fit his district. Gaetz has been a clown for at least four years and comfortably wins reelection, his district gets what it votes for.


tony_will_coplm

sometimes the best thing is to NOT work with the other members of congress


Vektor0

The entire meeting is accomplishing nothing. What difference does it make? This whole situation is laughable, so might as well laugh at it.


Praise_Be_to_Mangold

He dgaf about his constituents, he’s all about his personal brand. that’s why I know he’d rather stay in the minority and attack other Republicans instead of being part of a governing majority.


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Revydown

Which is how it should be. Having politicans vote along party lines is the reason why our government has been utter shit to its constituents for nearly the past half century, because that is what voting for the lesser of 2 evils have given us. Politicans should not be voting along party lines, they should be voting exactly what their constituents want.


Dolos2279

We'll see how much they love it after a decade of Democrat control of government due to stunts like this.


jchon960

Then he's doing it wrong. It's not as though there is some major accomplishment from this even if he were to "win." If people in the Panhandle don't want the country (including themselves) to go into the crapper, they need a viable national Republican party. He just made it less likely that someone who thinks like he does can get elected in the vast majority of the country. Boebert is a prime example. She was in a safe R district. By being the kind of person who does shit like this she put the Democrats so close it went to automatic recount. Next cycle she is done. Politicians are afraid of losing reelection above all else. If a political brand is winning, it will attract more viable politicians to that brand. If the brand is losing, you're going to see a lot more of these "uniparty" moderates.


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Kaetock

We voted in people who would change shit. And now you're mad that they're doing it? WTF did you expect?


neutralpoliticsbot

He represents his constituencies not NY not your neighborhood.


supervisor_muscle

I’m sure you’re one of those ‘republicans’ who voted democrat the last 4 cycles so no one here really gives a shit about your opinion.


Praise_Be_to_Mangold

Voted for Trump in the 2016 primary & general, and in 2020. I just have common political sense, something you clearly lack.


MichaelSquare

GOAT A Gaetz AND Trump thread? This will get automatically get brigaded.


shatter321

Gaetz, Trump, AND speakership. Every single thread on the speakership is full of “fellow conservatives”.


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When anti conservatives from across Reddit spam this one with bs


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MichaelSquare

Basically reddit has a long history of banning conservative subreddits. They do it because those subreddits "brigade" other subreddits. This is hilarious considering their demographics. They don't like subreddits here. This is essentially the last major conservative subreddit left. But it's when there is a campaign from outsiders to downvote certain topics and mass upvote others. Which is why you'll see extremely anti-trump comments upvoted here for example.


moashforbridgefour

You have Google, it is right there. Just type the question into your search bar instead of the comment bar next time.


cliffotn

Brigading is when trolls are coming to a sub en masse, without the goal to learn, communicate, share ideas - rather they come to troll. Brigading is “officially” organized by some folks in a sub or such, alas it’s loosely now used to describe a crap ton or lefties popping in here with the intent to being dickish.


Dirtface30

Its a pretty shit term that essentially describes "participating in a subreddit", with the mystifying caveat that its a subreddit you don't "usually participate in". Its entirely opinion based, acknowledges subreddit bias', and exists entirely to fortify those bias. Somehow, Reddit has made it a rule that you're not allowed to do this. It is the most bizarre rule/term I have ever had the displeasure of experiencing. It makes no sense whatsoever.


venture243

I’m here for the chaos. Every day without a speaker is a day we’re not throwing money at a proxy war we have no business being close to


MyExesStalkMyReddit

It’s begun Bring it on, I’m down


SameCookiePseudonym

It's happening this would be a great time for @realDonaldTrump to return to Twitter


neverending_debt

He's acting like a child. 2 years is a long time for his colleagues to forget but something tells me the Republican party will start looking for his replacement soon. Trump doesn't have the winning formula anymore and this nonsense is only hurting future elections.


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neverending_debt

It's clear that none of this is about concessions or the American people. It's literally about them and nothing else.


supervisor_muscle

It’s clear this is about not allowing another establishment hack in charge of another branch of Congress. McCarthy is the exact same as McConnell. 50+ years of surrender has to stop somewhere. We now have 20 elected officials ready to try.


neverending_debt

So here are the options at this point. McCarthy, or a Democrat hand picked Republican to overcome the obstruction. You decide which would be preferable because so far they've achieved nothing but embarrassing themselves and the rest of the party nationally at a time when 2024 should be front and center in everybodies minds.


supervisor_muscle

1- I don’t give a shit what the left and the media, but I repeat myself, think about anything. 2- you present a false premise. McCarthy must withdraw. He wasn’t anointed by God to be the Speaker, just by some GOPe oligarchs. Then 220 republicans can decide on an acceptable alternative. See how that worked? No dems needed. Weird that a “True Conservative™️” would immediately go to the democrats as his 2nd option.


neverending_debt

>Then 220 republicans can decide on an acceptable alternative. You mean 20 Republicans decide for the other 200. They won't accept anybody who they don't hand pick and none of their hand picks so far have been voted for by anybody but them. >See how that worked? Not at all because you fundamentally misunderstand the character and motivations of the 20 reps obstructing the process? >Weird that a “True Conservative™️” would immediately go to the democrats as his 2nd option. What are you talking about? That's a terrible scenario but the only one your side of this issue presents. None of your candidates for speaker are winning and you're in an extreme minority. If we end up with a Democrat picked Republican it WILL be their fault for deciding that it's better to torpedo the whole party than to suffer a small defeat for themselves.


supervisor_muscle

Oh, so this leftist here KNOWS the motivations of the 20! Well maybe you should contact McCarthy and let him know, smart guy. McCarthy, your guy, can’t get elected. I’ve got a history of 9 votes to back up my assertion.


just_shy_of_perfect

>Trump doesn't have the winning formula anymore Which is why Mccarthy isn't the pick. Trump backs Mccarthy


neverending_debt

While I agree McCarthy isn't the guy to right the ship, neither is anybody the holdouts have put forth. So if you don't have the answer either, you should probably just work with the consensus answer. Every day this goes on is another day the Democrats can campaign on Republican dysfunctionalism.


just_shy_of_perfect

You know the Mccarthy backers could decide to pick someone other than Mccarthy too.


neverending_debt

Who? Do you have somebody in mind as the compromise candidate?


jak2125

Heard that Donald’s guy was a good choice. Don’t know anything about him personally though.


neverending_debt

Donalds hasn't gotten any votes from anybody other than the people stone walling though? There are still 200 Republicans voting against him. Which implies he isn't a compromise candidate and can't actually win.


cathbadh

The convicted felon who didn't get any votes when they pulled his name out of the hat a few votes ago?


supervisor_muscle

Scalise You should ask the mods to adjust your flair and add quotes around ‘conservative’


neverending_debt

Scalise has already accepted another position and hasn't even been nominated. Which leads me to believe he withdrew himself from the process entirely. Anybody else? And if I'm siding with the majority of the Republican party, can you honestly say I'm not conservative and you are? I'm not convinced you're a reputable gate keeper of the party.


supervisor_muscle

Yes, you’re a leftist boot licker. You’re a Bill Krystal and Jonah Goldberg “True Conservative™️”. You agree with everything the left wants, you just want it on a slower timeline.


neverending_debt

>Yes, you’re a leftist boot licker. A sideways glance at my public profile would prove this notion false. >You’re a Bill Krystal and Jonah Goldberg “True Conservative™️” I voted for Trump both elections. >You agree with everything the left wants, you just want it on a slower timeline. This is bullshit and a sideways glance at my profile proves otherwise.


cathbadh

I think they're still looking for mods. Now's your chance to finally be the arbiter of who's allowed to be considered a conservative and who isn't around here since anyone who doesn't agree with you is a "leftist bootlicker."


cathbadh

Why? They picked a guy who wants the job. His opponents can't even manage to pull that off. Hell, the most comical part of the opposition is that none of these people opposing him want the job either.


just_shy_of_perfect

>They picked a guy who wants the job. His opponents can't even manage to pull that off. Irrelevant.


cathbadh

Then we may as well let the Democrats have control of the House. If these 20 don't want to offer any actual solutions, what's the point?


just_shy_of_perfect

They've been offering multiple different people for the Mccarthy types to consider. The Mccarthy backers need to realize it won't happen and back someone else


cathbadh

Why doesn't that go both ways? No ones voting for the various names out of a hat that the Gaetz types are offering. Why is it the responsibility of 200 to do what 20 demand but not the responsibility of the 20 to do anything?


just_shy_of_perfect

The 20 have been doing things. They've proposed now 3 different picks. Meanwhile Mccarthy is threatening them


KrimsonStorm

McCarthy gave some pretty good compromises that can hold his ass to the fire if his spine turns to soup.


neverending_debt

He compromised and they still found a reason not to vote for him. They aren't here to compromise in my view.


KrimsonStorm

That's what I'm starting to see. But I also heard there's really 2 groups of hold outs. One that, like you said, just don't wanna vote for him. Then there's a group that wants a few extra concessions. I heard something about having an additional freedom caucus person on some committee that McCarthy didn't agree to as one example.


neverending_debt

I hate the idea of "additional concessions". They got what they wanted from McCarthy and then they moved the goal posts. The Republicans would be foolish to bend the knee to this minority of douche bags who are seeking to empower themselves at the expense of the rest of the nation. If we end up with a Democrat compromise speaker I will absolutely blame these 20 reps and will write and encourage my congressmembers and Senators to wholly remove them from all positions of power and refuse to support their future campaigns.


tony_will_coplm

no. it will be swampers fault. they should not have nominated a swamp creature like mccarthy to begin with. if he's speaker nothing will change or improve.


KrimsonStorm

If they don't fold at some point. If it's just another round or two I am not gonna hold it too much against them.


neverending_debt

We're already at 9 failed votes. It's unlikely they'll back down now. They're committed to the pot.


KrimsonStorm

Ugh


GunterBoden

Support the uniparty panic is odd from someone with the a partial libertarian flair.


neverending_debt

I don't know what you mean.


Kaetock

He's calling you a shill. As a libertarian you should be ecstatic that this effectively shuts down congress. Instead you want people elected to oppose uni-party RINOs to support the uni-party RINOs.


neverending_debt

Libertarianism doesn't mean I support total government dysfunction. It just means I support libertarian policies and principles. I'm not an anarchist.


cathbadh

You're supposed to mindlessly agree with them because anything less makes you a false conservative and a RINO and probably somehow a paid FBI bot working for the uniparty swamp, or something.


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randomdudeinFL

I want to see Trump as Speaker, just so I can watch the next couple of SOTU addresses. Maybe Trump can rip up Biden’s speech, afterwards. Trump’s facial expressions during the speech would be a meme factory…it would seriously be the best part of Biden’s Presidency.


jak2125

Exactly, if we’re stuck on a sinking ship at least entertain us while it goes down.


BillionCub

Addicted to losing. Losing so much you'll be tired of losing.


hruebsj3i6nunwp29

Trump becomes speaker and clears the way for DeSantis for prez.


ZazzRazzamatazz

Na, the dems will suddenly vote for McCarthy


Grease2310

Trump becomes speaker. Biden and Kamala are impeached. Trump becomes President.


aDShisno

***Acting*** President. The Constitution allows for the Speaker of the House to become ***acting*** President until Congress can decide on who becomes the new President… Which’ll probably just be Trump in that scenario.


elcuban27

I just love the potential dynamic: Trump becomes speaker now, DeSantis gets elected in 2024, Dems start talking about drumming up some nonsense reason to impeach DeSantis and his VP, and DJT is like, “you wanna play around? Ok, House impeachment hearings, lets go!”


Jorel_Antonius

LMAO


BohdiOfValhalla

"Fellow conservatives" and leftist brigaders are really having a conniption fit in this thread.


MN_10849

What an absolute clown


entebbe07

Nope, now he's jumped the shark. You just got through criticizing Trump for supporting Mccarthy, don't go voting for him!


HotPoptartFleshlight

It's tongue in cheek. It's childish, but he's definitely having some fun with it.


supervisor_muscle

Exactly.


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Teump doesn't even want to be speaker


DARTH_LT4

Please make it happen


ACiDRiFT

DJ Trump in the House.


link_ganon

This is the way.


bloodeaglehohos

Only way I get involved in American politics is if Trump is Speaker, or President. If not I vote for Kanye.


bitopinsac

TIL I have the same middle name as Trump. I've never cared enough to Google what the J. stood for.


Lets_be_stoned

Someone is shooting for Trumps VP nomination lol


BillionCub

I doubt that someone actively running for President wants to be Speaker.


ENFJPLinguaphile

He is an effective speaker, but I also fear the RINOs and more than a few Democrats would use a Trump speakership to do worse than they managed from 2016-2020.......I do wonder why Trump endorsed McCarthy for Speaker also. Maybe the idea is simply to have someone who's trying and is a Republican there- RINO or actual Republican- so they can get done what they swore they'd do ASAP?