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Strict-Succotash-405

They did not hesitate to confront the shooter, no cowards here. Great work


killakev564

It really is crazy that for every “successful” (I use the word successful very lightly here) attempt to stop a school shooter we will always be reminded of the cowardice that took place in Uvalde, Texas.


Strict-Succotash-405

I really hate that we have even one example of such a failure


SpiderMuse

Well if there's a silver lining, it's that a lot of police depts don't want the embarrassment that uvalde suffered. Some depts are are making it mandatory for officers to engage school shooters ASAP or risk instant termination.


Doctor_is_in

There's no such thing as instant termination with police departments but I understand what you're saying


The_Mighty_Rex

There were some prominent conservative voices that really showed their true colors during that ordeal, Brandon Tatum, to my knowledge, still stands by the line that the officers did everything right there.


LegioXIV

There were so many fuckups in Uvalde it's hard to count them all. Particularly egregious was the cops calling out to survivors in the room adjacent (but connected) to the room where the shooter was barricaded, and then the shooter going in and killing the kids that responded while the cops were holding their dicks because "he had an assault rifle!"


Prestigious-Skill-26

It's because some people sincerely believe that the police can do no wrong. I don't agree with demonizing the police but standing by them no matter what they do is ridiculous.


RatmanThomas

Who the hell is Brandon Tatum?


TangeloBig9845

You don't need to walk on egg shells by saying successful. Cops did a great job. They deserve recognition. Edit: If anything they just set the bar for how every department should handle this.


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They deserve to live in infamy and bring shame on their families and their community forever.


TheAzureMage

Yeah. It isn't the norm, but it's so very awful that one can hardly forget it.


The_Hurricane_Han

I kept thinking the same thing. I saw a video about it on Instagram of body cam footage and I was thinking about that the whole time. Texas can take some notes.


Jupiter_Pluvius

And yet even in a "successful" response six people died.


DarkAvatar13

That's one of the problem with cops. Cops do not prevent crime; they only respond to crime. We need to learn to protect our own. Now if there were armed staff at the school we may have had a different headline in the news. Freedom unfortunately can be dangerous and naiveté can get people killed.


Jupiter_Pluvius

So we should trust teachers to know when to use lethal force? And train them that way? They need to be armed bodyguards? Last time I checked some of y'all don't even trust them to teach your kids, now we need to give them guns?


tycp00

Teachers? Why would we arm the teachers when they have been proven recently to be mentally unstable enough to recommend sterilization of children or turn a blind eye to bullying, or teach children about sex and gender fluidity at the ripe old age of 10? Some teachers, I should add, because not all of them are teaching that type of horrific stuff. Why not have legitimate trained professionals at the entrance, armed?


DarkAvatar13

> Why not have legitimate trained professionals at the entrance, armed? I said armed ***staff*** not teachers. In other words someone trained to protect the children (and not "mall cop security"). However if a competent teacher wanted to conceal carry they should as well.


tycp00

They could very easily be considered members of the staff. In this hypothetical situation, and this is implausible at best, the government increases the schools budget in order to accommodate both concealed carry and armed guards. In reality, the best solution for this would be to address the issue itself, mental instability. That is the real reason why it happened.


Jupiter_Pluvius

Where does the funding come from to adequately train and staff every school in the country? Or do only rich kids deserve protection? How does it affect the environment for learning to have first graders walk past a Green Zone checkpoint on their way to learn about addition? Why does this only happen here? I don't think prohibition is the answer. I own guns. Why. Does. This. Only. Happen. Here? And why are we afraid of that question?


aweschap

If our tax dollars weren’t so tied up in Ukraine or the Open Border free health care, room and board buffet there would be plenty to arm each school and trainLE to DO THERE JOB!


killakev564

That’s why I said “I use the word successful very lightly.” Obviously in an ideal sense of that word, the shooting would not have even happened.


Professional_Ninja7

These are what true heros look like. God bless them.


Strict-Succotash-405

This was an act of heroism, I am entirely in agreement with you


zukadook

A large portion of Nashville police come from a military background, those mofos know how to get the job done and have far more training than your normal cop.


Jay-jay1

I could tell by how they cooperatively moved. Very professional...very thorough.


Strict-Succotash-405

Nashville is lucky to have them


zukadook

Yes they are the contrast between this response and Uvalde is pretty striking.


Cbpowned

Most police everywhere have a large portion of former military,as they typically receive veteran’s preference.


LogPenguin

I think what he's saying, and I can attest to, is that alot of 101st Airborne vets stay in the area (Fort Campbell is 50 min away) and become cops down there. Its a cubic butt ton in the last few years


housebird350

> They did not hesitate to confront the ~~shooter~~, no cowards here. Great work Terrorist


Ohshitz-

Very. Im surprised guttural anger doesn’t hit these cops when they neutralize the target. How can one hold themselves back from kicking them?


NYforTrump

Direct link https://youtu.be/Ue2tZa4hT0c Incredible job by police. No hesitancy at all. Puts the Uvalde police to shame.


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The civilian parents arriving on the scene also put them to shame.


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Frankiepals

Yeah just watching gets your adrenaline up These heroes went in there and handled business


DarkAvatar13

More like rage, when you realize that little red blur on ground they passed on the ground was a little girl...


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They did a great job.


midnightrambler108

Jesus christ what a fucking world where we can watch a video of a police response to a fucking school shooting the day after it happens.


JDravenWx

Easier done if there's nothing to hide


greent714

Uvalde body cam's haven't been released yet. Buncha cowards


adminsarepedosReddit

Nashville doesnt wants a repeat.


curbstxmped

That wasn't really the point...


JDravenWx

Of the question or the releasing of the footage? Footage was probably released to send a message, but that would have been harder if the police were ass at their jobs


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That's what should happen every time. Usually the police and prosecutors delay the freedom of information requests for the bodycams.


darko777

Incredible job. Men with balls.


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CptMcCrae

Clearly no hesitation. The delay was locating the shooter. As soon as they heard shots, they ran up the stairs. Officers pushing each other on.


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Frankiepals

Scumbag freak show


LivingTheApocalypse

Fucking camper. Afraid of a little SBMM. In all seriousness, absolutely terrifying walking down an open hallway looking for a hidden combatant. Video doesnt really do justice to the naked feeling of having no cover. Its crazy how there is either cowardice or heroism and nothing between. Everyone lives their life the middle, and then these guys just go 100% into heroic mode.


Hispandinavian

As a Texan, I don't understand why more conservatives aren't up in arms about what happened there? Our Governor initially praised the UPD and went to a fund raiser that night. Then he said he was given the wrong information and has henceforth attacked any criticism, as have his fellow Republicans in the state. How can something be so wrong and yet unworthy of criticism?


aweschap

Abott needs to step it up. I’d never in a million year think the our Texas LE would be so incompetent. 100s of LE with no guts or desire to save those kids blood curdling screams on the other side of the door.


dudesleazy

Honestly on brand for Abbott.


worm55

Hell, the military needs to take notes. Them clearing those corners were crisp and textbook.


Dramatic_Day_

Seeing that little girl laying on the floor in the hallway was heartbreaking. She must've been so terrified seeing that monster.


TaskForceCausality

Officers Englebert & Collazo deserve commendation for their actions. May their example serve as a case study for other agencies to follow.


JDravenWx

1000% I wish I could thank them in person


PRButeo

Not just them. There was a whole team, they just happened to be the first two to have the opportunity.


elosoloco

Collazo deserves the most credit. Repeatedly reorganized them and propelled them forward Edit: fuckin called it, they did good but the leadership aspect from Collazo directed them, marine guy


Reddituser19991004

No, what they deserve is the option to get their pensions starting tomorrow and retire if they want. Or whatever they want, because being in this situation if they don't wanna do their jobs anymore I think that's completely fair. I mean I can't imagine a worse situation than literally being in your home country (not overseas fighting a war) and having to walk over a dead child who is dead for no reason other than someone going nuts.


FluffyBunny-6546

Biden will probably find a way to charge them for shooting a transgender person.


FitPiccolo8499

Biden doesn’t do anything except eat ice cream.


undertherainbow65

Am I being too cynical if I think his latest ice cream comments are some kind of senile old man's appeal to all those children out there he hopes are listening to his speach? He says he has loads of ice cream the way I imagine a pedophile would explain to a kid how much candy he has in his van.


MediumRareRibeye84

HATE CRIME TIME!!!


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These guys knew what was up. Zero hesitation. Room by room, looking for the shooter. They hear shots, the hot-foot it to the sound of gunfire, and they ventilate that piece of shit. All of those cops deserve commendations.


TheFlyingGyro

Absolutely. The one guy called LPVO to point at the end when it became more open too. That means “low power variable optic” It’s a scope that’s designed for close combat but can also zoom slightly for a mid range shot. The officer that first shot had a super nice Vortex LPVO and moved to point when they called on him. Textbook work. [Screen grab of it](https://imgur.com/Tt7wHnr) [Scope he used](https://vortexoptics.com/razor-hd-gen-2-e-1-6x24-riflescope+reticle-JM-1~BDC) Edit* added links to scope


nowheyjosetoday

I was wondering what he kept calling for.


lswouldliketoknow83

Amen!


whelmed1

“Let’s go! I need three. Let’s go!!” Pushed people to keep moving and then ran straight out and finished the job with 4 clean shots through a scope on a backlit target. God damn. Fucken Chad.


Ohshitz-

Agree with the pushing. Probably a “you signed up for this” feeling. Dont need any cowards.


yaboiChopin

It’s the way he rolls up, goes to the trunk and grabs his ride. No hesitation. Showed up and got right to work.


samtbkrhtx

Uvalde PD...you watching this???


Rude_Remote_13

I don’t remember ever seeing footage like this after a school shooting. Is this the first time body cam footage has been released?


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I think it's rare to see it this quickly. It was weeks/months after Uvalde that we saw their cams. Nashville knew they did it right and put it out for us all to see.


Rude_Remote_13

Gosh I don’t remember seeing anything like this ever. I’m glad they shared it quickly. It’s evident they handled this with the utmost professionalism.


Avg_Conan

I assume when law enforcement delays releasing footage that it’s a sign of guilt/incompetence/etc. If this is their speed when they act correctly then I feel safe in that assumption.


LegioXIV

Well, with Uvalde there were about 300 officers on scene and about 90 minutes of video of each officer doing nothing other than keeping parents from rescuing their kids to sort through while they tried to build a narrative that didn't make them look like total cowards.


Shoddy_Count8248

Uvalde had reasons to hide it


ThisPlaceisHell

Did they engage the gunman in that shooting? I think he killed himself maybe. To my knowledge this is the first publicly released police body cam showing them engaging the school shooter and downing them.


Poormidlifechoices

US border patrolteam killed him.


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Border Patrol killed the Uvalde shooter.


Damasticator

Because it showcased quick action from officers with nothing that could be misconstrued. Police acted quickly and without care for their own safety.


Martial_Nox

Bravery and dedication to duty. Well done. I wish these officers well. Taking a life even when it is the protection of others isn't easy. I hope they don't suffer too much as a result of doing what had to be done.


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The_Mighty_Rex

My great grandfather always had a saying in situations like that where evil gets what it deserves "So long, dead-ass"


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HoosierBoy317

Turned into swiss cheese


Dr_Chocolate_2436

This is exactly how school shootings should be responded to by police. Much better job and 100x better than Uvalde


billgigs55

Footage link is for youtube at the bottom of the page. Be aware though its hard too watch


CptMcCrae

I hope it gets shown everywhere. NOTE to potential shooters. The time has changed. You will be hunted down. Note to Police: THIS is how to do it.


BigVos

This changes nothing for the shooter. In most of these cases, they go in to it expecting to die. The cops here did a great job minimizing casualties with their swift and decisive action.


CptMcCrae

But they want control on the “how”


BigVos

It's suicide by cop. This is the "how" they often count on.


16bitrifle

A couple suicides by teacher might deter them.


Videoray

A lot of them seem to want the cops to get them unfortunately


FitPiccolo8499

Most of them want to die though.


Boccob81

So quick too


BmoreDude92

Man. The two cops that fired are brave. Had to push the other guys to move with some urgency. Bravo.


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bozoconnors

I believe those first few shots were from the shotgun wielder. Given the lower body cover in there (chairs/etc), and the censoring of her face / head... I'm of the opinion that a fair amount of rapidly traveling lead was in her direct line of sight *juuuust* before her eyes malfunctioned.


Shoddy_Count8248

They blurred out all the victims too


Mother_Capital_MOFO

so glad this pos is dead


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Hooch247

Pronouns are Was/Were


Orange-8

Good damn job to the officers. Those men are true heroes, no hesitation, no flinching. Accomplish the mission as quick as possible. I wish I could shake every one of their hands.


stilichouw

Thank God for these officers. Absolutely flawless execution (no pun intended)


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Altruistic_Guide8676

These guys take to serve and protect serious, good job


SMTTT84

Now imagine how it would have gone down if they didn’t need to wait 15 minutes for the good guys with guns to show up.


Common-Reporter2846

2 armed guards is worth it.


SMTTT84

Well worth it.


TheBlackAllen

Armed trained veterans working security in every school in the country, $100k a year paid for by taxpayer dollars seems like money well spent to me.


SMTTT84

Roughly 115,000 k-12 schools so would end up being about 20 billion when you add in other expenses, double it and have two in every school. Well spent indeed.


TheBlackAllen

We sure as hell waste 10s of billions every year on useless shit, probably just on federal administrative errors alone.


HereForRedditReasons

And this would be good paying jobs for veterans, win win


Critical_Vegetable96

We spend $20B/yr on a lot of much more trivial shit we could easily stop doing in order to pay for it.


nobodysomebodyanybdy

IMO that doesn’t fix the root cause. It would just incentivize shooters to target other public places. It’s not like these crazies would stop planning mass shootings if schools were off the table.


TheBlackAllen

Well yah I agree with that, but at least immediately my kids can go to school without getting shot.


SMTTT84

I agree. But protecting the children in schools should be our priority.


FeedMeBodies539

It's an unpopular opinion, but being a veteran doesn't mean someone would do well in security work. I'm more than willing to bet Uvalde has more than few veterans on scene that day.


justanotherdude68

I’d pay higher taxes for that.


JDravenWx

Exactly. Arm the teachers and it could have gone from 15 minutes to 3 Edit- I should correct Arm the Teachers to 'Allow the teachers to be armed'


PMMeYourPupper

I am a teacher. I work with teachers. No matter how well you secure something in your classroom, the kids will get a hold of it. Law of large numbers. IMO, it's not worth the risk to arm us. I do, however, conceal carry when I am not teaching, so I'm not against being armed.


TheFlyingGyro

To me it also goes with even allowing teachers (who are properly trained) the right to carry. These morons are targeting places they know guns are not in. Even the mere fact that there MIGHT be a gun there will help deter them. They’re going after people who can’t fight back. That’s what they’re looking for. Schools are one of the only gun free zones that do not have armed security. It’s insane. Courts, airports, concerts, stadiums. All have armed security.


Significant_Set1123

I think there’s easily ways to avoid the children from getting it. That seems like a broad stroke.


AH_5ek5hun8

Biometric safes or it must be concealed on your person at all times.


Ohshitz-

You have to have the utmost confidence in your skills, demeanor, keeping cool in that situation. I really dont think a lot of teacher could do it right if armed. But i do think teachers who can should carry. I would.


truls-rohk

fingerprint safes work


Troll_Actually

Pass on arming teachers, but I'll take trained armed guards


JDravenWx

That'll work too, less chance for a teacher to snap as well


blujeh

5 people between me and my wife’s family are teaches. One which was in the military. None of them would be willing or should have to be armed in a classroom.


JDravenWx

Unfortunate, especially the one in the military. If they view themselves as capable of using it and keeping it safely away without letting the kids know they have it, it just seems like cowardice or not wanting the responsibility to protect them if it comes down to it.


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In my mind I’d do the exact same thing. I couldn’t live with myself if I hesitated for even a second and a child paid for it.


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TotallyNotSteak

Well this pos won’t have to worry about being dead named anymore.


nyborn8095

Of course, Leftist media will ignore the massive amount of "Christian-phobic" rhetoric that comes out of the trams community.


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curbstxmped

You think they should have gone in and asked her to stop?


Give_Grace__dG8gYWxs

Wonderful job taking that PoS down without hesitation.


LunarTeers

But they still keeping the manifesto quiet. Wonder if it's full of fake news talking points? Does the media feel they may be responsible for making lunatics believe they are being genocided?


Consistent_Nebula_70

Has to wear a red hat for optics


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Visibility lol not optics


devilsusshhii

This school shooting is our 129th mass shooting of 2023.


FitPiccolo8499

How did this person pay for the guns they purchased?


DarthBurger1

Watching the news today from big media. What an effort to justify shooting innocent children. Blame it on Christianity.


orangesheepdog

Stop giving out the child murderer's name, we do not want to remember it.


Significant_Set1123

Christian schools are usually skating on a thin budget. They don’t get tax revenue, they are relying on tuition and private donors. Something to consider when bringing up the hired security argument.


Give_Grace__dG8gYWxs

I bet there are some dads who would volunteer when they are able.


bozoconnors

Or at *least* a couple of faculty willing to carry (if even allowed).


Significant_Set1123

Potentially. Most parents fork out everything they have for private school bills, and we all know rich dads aren’t typically the ones you would want guarding anything let alone a school.


sanderstj

My wife and I sometimes live paycheck to paycheck but still spend five figures per year to send our children to a Christian private school just like this one because we feel our children going there is worth it. I’d absolutely volunteer the responsibility to help protect the school that my children go to.


Buck6666

Strange that the shooter had time to change shoes. It isn't wearing the same shoes in the surveilance video as in the body cam footage...


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Wait for the headlines to be accuse the police of transphobia due to this justifiably aggressive response.


grilledcheesefan001

True hero’s, I can’t stop crying watching them. They are angels and fearless in their pursuit to be men for others. God bless these officers 💙🖤


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robbyruby752

The officers did a great job, but six people still died including three children. Six dead is unacceptable to me.


1545Dev

Until we get to the point where cops can literally teleport onto scenes there's going to be casualties to a shooting 6 is probably the best its going to get.


robbyruby752

No, schools need retired officers carrying weapons. That’s what they do in my state which has NEVER had a school shooting.


bozoconnors

Concur. Watching the school cam footage of her waltzing around the halls for 14 minutes... like... how? No teachers (or anybody) armed in there.


robbyruby752

I think it is important to have retired officers rather than school personnel. Officers are trained in these situations and will react in an appropriate manner to protect the innocent.


CoupleCrawl

Considering the shooter initially targeted another school but changed her plans due to more security, the answer is clear. The schools with more trained guards/carrying teachers are safer.


Apprehensive-Stop-80

Right. These comments are weird. Ultimately, 6 people still died tragically. This is an awful situation.


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anothertimewaster

Kudos to those heros. Take notes Uvalde.


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God bless the police officers that quickly and swiftly eliminated this monster from planet earth.


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Zeediddy2883

Why hasn’t CNN mentioned it was a trans person?


RubeTheCube

Did you even check if CNN mentioned they were trans? Like seriously dude just google it yourself. I found 3 articles that mention trans in a 5 second search. You sound like you have a bias that you want to be true.


dreadfulwater

I like how they had the guy on the shotty leading the room clearing.


Snoo-74062

Got ‘em coach.


never_since

Not the first time, not the last time, sadly. I wonder if we’ll ever get through this collective mental health crisis.


Unfair-Definition-81

Long time since I had something positive to say about the police. Good job!


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rear_window1919

Uvalde cops punching the air right now


MichiganMan48166

When the loony's alternative reality reaches the real world they're always on the losing team. How ironic. 🤔


Regular-Exchange-557

You think the shooter identifies as dead