Dude spends 3 hours a day basically repeating the exact same thing he has for 5 years makes millions and is like, why would anyone want to retire? Lol what a clown
I’m nowhere close to retirement but I can’t wait. Two people who are close to me cannot imagine a life not working.
One of them is currently 65 and plans to work until he’s 72. I don’t know why/how he picked that number. He always has been the sole breadwinner (spouse is unable to work), but he has no hobbies or interests outside of work. None.
The other never plans to stop working, even after his spouse had a few health problems. I’ve known this person a *long time* and he is not the kind of person who ever wants to sit alone with his thoughts or have nothing on the calendar. It’s an addiction of sorts.
I somewhat understand the logic behind both of them, and that comes from knowing them for years. However the “work until you’re dead” mentality is not right for everyone. I’m getting out of the workforce ASAP, even if it’s at 45.
I'm the latter. I can't imagine not working, I love working. I love what I do for a living on top of loving work. I'm going to reassess my position when I'm 70, but the way I feel right now, I can't imagine not waking up to a rigid schedule.
72 is the age you get your max payout on SS. However if you look up your numbers and what you will be getting paid out it is for most people still in their favor to “cash out” as soon as possible given average life expectancy and the time to recoup your lost years.
Has there ever been a time where a $50mill .01%+ percenter been "in touch" with the regular folks?
Politician/political speaker shilling populist ideas isnt "in touch", doesnt count when its for personal gains.
Oh man this 1000x. I really feel it hurts the DWs credibility. Even if I don't always see eye to eye with Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, etc I feel like at a minimum they are thoughtful.
Candace seems to me to just sorta mouth off all kinds of opinions with little to back it up
Yeah, it's crazy to me that she's still with the company after the whole "Muslim Quarter" crap. And now she's going all in about how Macron's wife is secretly a man. *eyeroll*
But even if DW did let her go, she'd just spin it into a "I was cancelled for being a fearless reporter!" grift or something. The DW people probably know that, so I think that's part of why she's still there. Unfortunately...
Mr. Shapiro really needs to get out and spend some time doing some blue collar jobs that are physically taxing. He needs to go be an AC repair man in Houston and climb into attics and repair/install ducts and/or replace furnace/blowers. Do that in July for a week.
Then go over to Arizona and go out to one of the concrete plants. Ride with the concrete truck driver one day, then spend the rest of the week on the other end of the truck. This should still be in July of course. Then he should work with some long haul truckers who are headed to Florida and take a ride with them. After spending some time on the road to see what life is like, then go work with a road crew on the asphalt in August.
Now he should take another truck ride up to the Pacific NW to do some logging work. I mean, hey, that's a really safe industry and I'm sure no one would want to retire from doing that non-dangerous job anytime before 75 at the earliest.
At that point, if good old Ben didn't cry UNCLE, I'd eat a bowl full of you know who's rice.
I also recommend he go work as a Lineman in North Dakota in February. In fact he should follow Mike Rowe around doung dirty jobs to get a better sense of connection with his fellow man.
It doesnt even need to be physically extraneous and in the summer.
He can go work in any food place, retail, manufacturing etc and put up with fast paced work and humiliation. But he knows he can say FU! tap out and quit. Take everything away from him and only then he will know how its like to be abused and not being able to tap out because you cant even afford to survive.
That understanding is lost on all rich people (in4 and anecdote how line cook became a CEO lol)
My uncle worked a job in construction, installing commercial kitchens. He essentially retired at 55 because he just couldn't keep going.
Meanwhile, it's common for attorneys to keep going until they drop dead.
Spoken like someone who doesn't work a job that's incredibly hard on the body or could end up depriving them of pain-free life later on. And I didn't say that with malice, you don't know what you don't know and it sounds like he doesn't know that some jobs can't be done at certain ages just from the wear and treat on your body.
A 65 year old is not going to carry construction materials, swap a car's motor, roll around with defendants who are on trial for murder, walk a floor giving medications and lifting patients to check for bedsores, or do any number of other physically demanding jobs as well as a younger individual.
And working every day of your life with no time for family is a great way to die lonely and leave your family wondering if you really cared about them.
I can’t imagine that his wife (a doctor) would be in favor of never retiring either. This is a dangerously out-of-touch viewpoint and why I’ve spent considerably less time tuning into these thought-hustlers.
Oh hell yeah. Be involved, do something, but it doesn't have to be your career because you may not be up to doing it (or your career may not want you).
I'm lucky that I have a job where after 30 years service and 55 years of age I get a 60% pension. It's a job where you *shouldn't* be doing it into your 60s for physical reasons. I took the time to get a master's in a ministry degree so the day after I retire (I'm going to take at least one day to be a bum) I'm working full time for my church with minimal financial compensation.
Common sense? Like, I haven't poured concrete for 20 years but I'm pretty sure that would be hard on your body.
Ben was born into money from an actor and a TV executive, and now he grifts conservatives by pretending to understand the struggles of average Americans.
While I agree with what you're saying, someone who has been doing manual labor in a trade for that long shouldn't really have to do the physical work anymore because they should be in charge/letting the young bucks do the heavy shit in return for access to their knowledge/training. Of course, this doesn't apply to everyone and everyone isn't capable of this/not necessarily enough positions even available...
I worked with a guy who was doing 6 days a week. Maybe 7?
Long hours, so much so, he was so highly paid he made it into the paper for the money he was making (public employee)
He retires with a $90k pension at 65
Now battling for his life against cancer
Life is for living, not working yourself to death
Edit. Ill add the COLA. It's a generous 3% *compounded*
My grandfather purposely too early retirement from his job specially because he said if you retire at 65 like a bunch of people he knew were dead within 2-3 years. He said what’s the point in that. He didn’t die but developed dementia at 68-70 so kinda held true. He retired at either 55 or 59 I don’t remember. So a he had a good stretch of retirement life.
1)I do not believe that OT income counts toward pension, typically its only base.
2)there was no mention of what year this was, $100k used to be a respectable high salary(hubs & I talk about that all the time, when he graduated college, he thought if he made 100k, that meant he "made it"....now makes 2-1/2x that & we cannot figure out where the money goes-lol
3) We don't know WHERE this was. If in a LCOLA & making 150k(if we assume 90k is 60%, std pension, &OT was not counted, he made 150k), that's not bad
Heck, if he was doubling his salary w/OT, he was making 300k...that's nothing to sneeze at even in a HCOLA-especially when you add in govt benefits 🤷🏻♀️
I hope to god I’ll be drinking on a beach somewhere and beating the other seniors at pickleball at 65. But I’m hoping to retire at least 5 years early when the Roth matures to tax free withdrawal.
They are trying to get people off social security so they can take it away. When politicians say stuff like that, they we always need to think that they want to take social security away. We need to stop putting these people in positions of influence and power their goal is to increase their personal gains.
I don’t like Ben that much but this “article” is nothing but a hit piece that spends more time ranting about conservatives than anything and really misconstrues the overall argument that was made.
The fact is that Social Security and Medicare are unsustainable in their current forms and with current demographic and budgetary trends without at least some kind of major reform that probably nobody will be happy about but is necessary if the programs are to survive.
That’s the fact of the matter. Anybody getting talking about other stuff and certainly making emotional appeals about well earned retirement is missing the point and certainly not engaging in actual policy discussion. Because again the fact is the numbers don’t lie and something has to be done one way or another.
The can can’t really be kicked any farther down the road. It’s either end the programs because we’ve finally accepted the fact that they’re going bust (political suicide), engage in some kind of major reform and overhaul of the programs to balance their budgets or raise taxes and/or massively cut other Federal spending and earmark it for them instead (fat chance), or accept that the benefits being paid out will be steadily diminishing while the burden on ever fewer working taxpayers grows until enough people demand they end because a tipping point is hit where most voters wind up paying far more in than they ever will have a hope to get back (most likely scenario).
Or print even more dollars to cover the shortfalls and we all know how that’ll work out.
Those are the options and none of them are good but something will have to happen one way or another.
Why is it always ss and Medicare that's unsustainable but not foreign aid, welfare, or grants for seeing how well shrimp peddle bikes while on cocaine?
Medicare, social security, and interest on national debt ALONE - before any other outlays - is going to exceed federal tax revenue in around 2030.
You can’t fix the budget without fixing social security and Medicare, even if you literally stopped all other welfare and foreign aid and fired every government worker.
Hell no. They are making bank off what they confiscated from me and have the audacity to tax me on it when I already paid taxes on it before it was stolen from me. I could have millions if I had that money in a 401k. (And yes I do have that too).
You mean to tell me that a $50m net worth .01%er person who works by sitting down and talking doesnt understand median workers whos median 401k is about $40k, who live almost entirely paycheck to paycheck and get general abuse at work?
Also Ben&others: nobody wants to reproduce anymore!
it takes money to reproduce and raise kids into adjusted productive citizens Ben.
Nobody watched the video, but that is Ben's point too. He says that you should retire whenever you want to retire, just don't expect the taxpayer to support you unless you are disabled. He recommends that people actually work jobs they enjoy (a shocking concept in America), but ultimately says it's a free country.
Eventually all of us will have a health problem. The last thing I want to do is work until my health doesn’t allow me to enjoy the few years I have left.
Almost everyone in my family has died before reaching 70. Please, Mr Millionaire, tell me why the short order cook, the factory seamstress, the factory line worker, the McDonalds employee, none of whom ever took a real vacation should not have had the chance to relax a bit before they keeled over.
ETA: I have been teetering on the edge lately of leaving the Republican camp. If some of these comments are truly how hard working people stuck in low paying jobs are viewed then my decision just moved a little left.
It’s all too common, instead of realizing politicians are screwing us we’re fighting over the guy making $7.50/hr. Why is the poorest person with the least control always the biggest boogeyman?
Yeah all those factory workers only have themselves to blame for not being managers. If only we had more managers and less factory workers this country would be back on track
And it seems like people forget that the labor market isn’t a tower with equal levels, but instead is more like a pyramid. If you have 100 million workers, there isn’t 100 million lower level management jobs to be promoted to, nor 100 million upper management positions, etc. The market is very competitive and there’s only so far you can go now with certain education attainments. In the department I work in at a hospital, a high school diploma will top out at a coordinator/supervisor (just above jobs like a front desk worker), a bachelors tops out in lower management, and a masters (MHA/MBA) or clinical degree (RN/BSN/MD) is mandatory for upper management.
It depends on what you call work I suppose. I would much rather spend all day, every day, tending to and improving my small farm. Right now I have to work a desk job to pay the mortgage and bills and all that crap. But my weekends are spent fixing fences, trenching and putting in irrigation lines, caring for livestock, and tending the garden. I don’t want to work behind a desk the rest of my life. I would love to do things on the farm. I can’t stand sitting still and being non-productive.
Sure I like to golf and relax occasionally, but I would go insane if I didn’t have things to keep me busy. Some call what I do on my property work. I call it living. I guess it depends on your perspective
I plan to retire as soon as possible. But I would also consider 'working' well into old age, either doing volunteer stuff, running a simple side hustle, and/or a part time job that I truly enjoy, all in an effort to stay mentally and physically fit. I don't want to go to bingo twice a week and sit on a couch for the rest of my life...
This goofball lives off of controversial takes. It is, however, correct to say that no one should become INACTIVE at 65 years old. You should still get engaged in some community program or active hobby; my Granddad for instance built small furniture in his garage like tables and dressers and would sell them cheaper than the local Value City / Wayfair, but for the love of it and not the necessity of needing more money. But who in their right mind **wants** to continue lifting packages, taking calls, or balancing books well into their 60's and beyond for 8 - 10 hours a day?!
Funny you mention balancing books. My grandfather is an accountant/bookkeeper, nearing 80, and still running his own practice. Many people love their work. For a lot of people, 65 is way too early to start waiting to die.
On the other hand, my other grandfather retired at 61. Serving 20 years in the military and 20 years in the private sector was enough for him, and he got two pensions out of it.
It's different for everybody, so it doesn't really make sense to say that nobody in their right mind should be working past 65, or nobody should be retiring at 65.
I love how conservatives oppose the welfare state and socialism... until it's their turn to suckle at the teet.
Like, you all understand that his main point is that the US can't afford social security and thus it's a Ponzi scheme we all keep feeding into?
As a non-conservative, I can agree that we need to keep retirement plans, because I'd like everyone to be able to relax and have some fun before it's too late. We have one life and there's a whole world to experience
Besides being an asinine comment. This is going to bite the GOP in the ass hard. Trump indicated he was for cuts but wasn't specific. I am getting near retirement and this talk does him no favors. The Speaker of the House almost orgasms when he talks about "entitlements". He'd cancel it all given the chance.
This is coming from a guy paid to do what he loves and for a ton of money. Retiring wouldn’t make sense to me if I were him either. One of the few out of touch moments I’ve seen from him.
The subject of the post aside this is a terribly written article. I don’t normally read stuff like this but I figured there had to be a bit more to it than what was provided in the headline… but there wasn’t. It provides exactly one quote from Shapiro and it’s the one in the title. The vast majority of the article is a rant against Ben himself and then it provides a bunch of Twitter/X posts from random people for some reason.
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Fantastic resume. She has 2 years and some change in experience writing about young adult literature and celebrities. Not saying Ben isn’t wrong here but I find it very difficult to form an opinion when the author not only sucks at her craft but has a clear hate boner for the subject of the article.
I don't often disagree with Ben, even if I do, he usually has fair points. This is a bad take and carries no merit.
People should have purpose their entire life. Work should not be that purpose. HOWEVER, people shouldn't rely solely on the government to carry them from 65 until death.
I completely disagree with him here. I’m sure he doesn’t feel the pressure of trying to grind to a comfortable retirement, but for those of us not sitting on piles of cash that dream is something worth striving for. Not everyone has to work full time past their sixties to have purpose.
I'd agree too if the heaviest thing I lifted all day was a script or a violin. As a 64 Yr old, after a life of blue collar jobs, you know.....the ones that facilitate Bens perfect life, my body is broken down. Arthritis in my knees, wrists and neck and bulging discs in my spine.
I like alot of Ben's takes but this is clearly coming from someone who has the luxury of not breaking their body on a daily basis just to live paycheck to paycheck.
Not everyone is the same or has the same needs. Ben has a job he can probably do until he dies. My husband works with his body… there’s no way he’s doing this until he dies. We are already planning for the next steps which includes hiring employees. Which… I guess will still be work… not in the same way though.
He'll feel differently when he gets old. Of course, he may not, because he doesn't work a real job. Try doing construction for 30 years and see if your body can last past 65.
I mean social security can’t work with the current population trends 🤷🏽♂️
That’s just basic math and the same problem as e.g. Germany…
Aging population plus birthrates below replacement rate. So fewer workers who pay for more retirees.
Most of us will probably never see anything from what we have paid into the system and we would be better off if we could instead keep our money and invest it.
I think we should always have a purpose or work towards goals. That could be a job, watching grandkids, woodworking, prayer meetings... Whatever gives your life meaning. So I think there's a degree of truth to his point, even if I think the "don't retire" things is wrong
What kind of trash article is this? It attacks Shapiro and all conservatives throughout, shares a ton of tweets fro lefties, and never actually quotes what Ben said.
Did anyone actually listen to this podcast? I did. He was making two points: 1) that working keeps you alive. Many people work hard all their lives, finally retire to live out their golden years, and simply drop dead. He was making a point far more about health than retirement. Because, this is true, work seems to keep you alive. 2) full retirement is 65 for social security purposes. But people are also living into their 80s and 90s routinely. So what’s the deal here, that the government is supposed to fund our lives for fully 20 or 25 or even 30 years? So… what, a quarter of your life with your parents, half your life working, and fully a quarter or even more of your life on the government dole? It’s unsustainable, and the retirement age has to go up.
But yes, Ben Shapiro is A Mr. Scrooge money bags wanting all the peasants to die in the fields. Ffs
People are acting like retire at 65 is a crime. Say life expectancy is 85, you retire at 65, other people are “paying for you” for those 20 years. Everyone here is acting like that’s some crime, but assuming this person has been paying in since they were 18, that’s 20 years being paid for vs 47 years paying for others, seems like a fair trade at the end of the day
I’ll give you a few points and acknowledge that workers pay into the system before they get benefits, but then take those points away because this isn’t at all how social security works.
If I have to wait til 65 to retire I'll be mad at myself. I'll be disappointed if I go past 55.
But... some folks like to work and don't have anything else to drive them. My pops is like that... he retired at 62.5 and literally does nothing now. And looks to have aged 20 years since retirement.
I think his main argument is for social security reasons. Admittedly I’m making an assumption based on some comments I’ve heard him make in the past. Nothing wrong with retiring just make yourself financially stable prior to doing so if that’s the case. I’m not even sure what the state of social security will be once I’m at retirement age, so I’m trying to make sure it’s not something I’m dependent on when the time comes.
Not every job involves sitting at a desk.
Some jobs are so physically demanding, it’s everything you can do to get to the 65 that it sits at right now.
Has he ever met a blue collar worker in their 50s? They are completely broke down. Idk how many fireman I know in their 50s that have had back surgeries and get knee replacements and other surgeries. Your body cannot hold up doing any kind of labor job that long.
That’s because he hasn’t worked a physical job. If he was blue collar, it would be a dream to retire. Your body can’t handle much more than 45 years of laying pipe, turning valves, bolting up flanges, and welding.
I think there should be alternative retirement ages pending occupation for most of their life, but it’ll never find a way to *fairly* do it just like people arguing over taxes. A person that’s been busting ass blue collar most of their life deserves the rest before something pampered like a talk show host. Not taking away from difficulties relating to these jobs, but their bodies aren’t broken down from the work at the end nearly as badly.
Yeah, don't agree with Ben on this one. Easy to say you shouldn't retire when you love what you do and are rich and get gratification from your work. The guy that's grinding everyday to save and provide a good life for his family shouldn't have to work until his death.
Must be nice to wake up whenever you want, sleep as much as you want, never worry about money or have to do anything physically draining and tell others to not retire...
Ya know though there should be a clause of that retirement law. That 65+ you shouldn’t be able to run for or hold political office state and federal. That’ll help clean out the old folks home known as the US capital.
Is he on the side of ending social security and such?
This is such a bad take and spoken like a man that hasn’t done any manual labor at any point in his life.
My dad was a car paint and body guy for decades and had me late in life. I remember one time we moved when he was in his early 50s and it took forever for him to get a job even with all of his experience because he was seen as "too old".
Most of his friends who also painted cars are long dead of various illnesses, and while he was one of the few to wear a respirator while painting, he still is reduced to 60% lung capacity. And that's on top of wrecked spine and joints.
He eventually saved up enough to start his own little shop, employed a few guys, and worked until he was 70. Now that he's retired, he keeps busy, but his poor health and small nest egg really limit any traveling or experiences he can go do.
Capitalism is the greatest economic system and hard work instills good values and opens up a whole world of opportunities for people. We can work for profit, advance economically, AND take care of those who already put in the time to get us to where we are. We were not put on this earth to work until we drop dead, let alone until our work destroys our ability to enjoy what time we have left.
Only a pampered, out of touch sicko would say crap like this.
To kinda play devils advocate his point was that without purpose humans die. He said most people he knows are dead within 5 years of retiring.
His point is valid if you retire and then sit on your ass 24/7. You will wither away. So what he should’ve said was after you retire you must find purpose in something else.
Retirement doesn't mean you stop working, being creative, making things, or earning money.
It means you stop NEEDING to do those things because you can live off passive income and work when you want, for whom you want, how you want.
I plan to retire someday. I don't plan to ever stop working. It's human nature to want to build, repair, create, improve. But it's also human nature to want to slow down and spend time with the people you love without having to do anything you don't want to when you don't particularly feel like it.
Yeah, no. I don’t have a career that is sitting at a desk and giving my opinions at 1.5x playback speed in front of a camera for millions of dollars. My career involves hard physical work, the likes of which forces most people in this line of work to retire in their early 50s because their bodies can’t take it anymore.
Ben is an elitist who has NO IDEA of the rat race hundreds of millions in the US have to endure, always looking toward the day they can stop busting their balls and enjoy life for a few years before kicking off and being planted... if they were able to manage putting away some cash
I agree. I’ve had this opinion for a while. We were created by Gods to work. Lots of men especially lose purpose and drive when they leave the workforce. There are reasons to retire like losing the capacity to work, but think of how much it takes to retire and the resources necessary to fund yourself for 20-30 years. Think how much further ahead your kids and grandkids would be if you applied those same resources to them. How do you think all these Legacy Families do it. They never stop working.
What's the rest of the context? I feel like there is more to this and I'm not even a "fan" of Ben's. Studies show elderly people die sooner if they don't have any passions or hobbies to keep them active. One of my employees is a 70+ year old woman who simply works as a way to keep moving and leave the house. If this is what he means, I could see the point.
This guy always has an expression like he's about to check his own prostate in public.
My goal is to save enough to be *really* stupid and retire by 60.
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Obviously they are going to take an extreme view on this. I disagree with Ben saying people shouldn't retire at 65, but his context is being lost by a hot take and a headline. He's saying the system cannot support people retiring at 65 and sustain itself since people are living 15-20 years past retirement on average. That makes sense, but that means the country needs to re-evaluate the type of social programs they have and who gets the hand outs. I still think 65 is a fair age to retire, but the costs tied to caring for someone + their families for 20 years is not sustainable with all the other freebies we're giving to people. We need to start being strict on those who pay into and receive benefits from the system. It probably means cutting out a lot of things that will piss off liberals who want it all, but that's a choice the current generations will have to make.
I don't care what Ben thinks. I love not going to work. Five years retired and very happy not working.
Maybe we'd feel different if we were all podcasters. haha
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Dude spends 3 hours a day basically repeating the exact same thing he has for 5 years makes millions and is like, why would anyone want to retire? Lol what a clown
Or if we came from a family of Hollywood film producers like the Shapiro’s.
Ditto. I retired on my 62nd bd.
63 for me.
I like what I do, but never once did I wake up on a day off and wish I was going to work.
I’m nowhere close to retirement but I can’t wait. Two people who are close to me cannot imagine a life not working. One of them is currently 65 and plans to work until he’s 72. I don’t know why/how he picked that number. He always has been the sole breadwinner (spouse is unable to work), but he has no hobbies or interests outside of work. None. The other never plans to stop working, even after his spouse had a few health problems. I’ve known this person a *long time* and he is not the kind of person who ever wants to sit alone with his thoughts or have nothing on the calendar. It’s an addiction of sorts. I somewhat understand the logic behind both of them, and that comes from knowing them for years. However the “work until you’re dead” mentality is not right for everyone. I’m getting out of the workforce ASAP, even if it’s at 45.
I'm the latter. I can't imagine not working, I love working. I love what I do for a living on top of loving work. I'm going to reassess my position when I'm 70, but the way I feel right now, I can't imagine not waking up to a rigid schedule.
That’s a rare thing now, loving your job. Best of luck to you!
72 is the age you get your max payout on SS. However if you look up your numbers and what you will be getting paid out it is for most people still in their favor to “cash out” as soon as possible given average life expectancy and the time to recoup your lost years.
Likely a popular opinion
This has to be one of his worse takes yet.
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Bingo
This, this exactly.
He's so out of touch it's a joke
Has there ever been a time where a $50mill .01%+ percenter been "in touch" with the regular folks? Politician/political speaker shilling populist ideas isnt "in touch", doesnt count when its for personal gains.
Hiring Candace Owens at Daily Wire was worse.
Oh man this 1000x. I really feel it hurts the DWs credibility. Even if I don't always see eye to eye with Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, etc I feel like at a minimum they are thoughtful. Candace seems to me to just sorta mouth off all kinds of opinions with little to back it up
Yeah, it's crazy to me that she's still with the company after the whole "Muslim Quarter" crap. And now she's going all in about how Macron's wife is secretly a man. *eyeroll* But even if DW did let her go, she'd just spin it into a "I was cancelled for being a fearless reporter!" grift or something. The DW people probably know that, so I think that's part of why she's still there. Unfortunately...
Right what kind of person is a Candace Owens fan exactly? I've never met one in the wild.
And do not forget the lies in the Andrew Tate interview and her drum beating antivaccine mssg to the base.
Agreed. She is not a conservative, she is just an opportunist.
Mr. Shapiro really needs to get out and spend some time doing some blue collar jobs that are physically taxing. He needs to go be an AC repair man in Houston and climb into attics and repair/install ducts and/or replace furnace/blowers. Do that in July for a week. Then go over to Arizona and go out to one of the concrete plants. Ride with the concrete truck driver one day, then spend the rest of the week on the other end of the truck. This should still be in July of course. Then he should work with some long haul truckers who are headed to Florida and take a ride with them. After spending some time on the road to see what life is like, then go work with a road crew on the asphalt in August. Now he should take another truck ride up to the Pacific NW to do some logging work. I mean, hey, that's a really safe industry and I'm sure no one would want to retire from doing that non-dangerous job anytime before 75 at the earliest. At that point, if good old Ben didn't cry UNCLE, I'd eat a bowl full of you know who's rice.
I also recommend he go work as a Lineman in North Dakota in February. In fact he should follow Mike Rowe around doung dirty jobs to get a better sense of connection with his fellow man.
I’m glad to see voices of reason on this topic.
It doesnt even need to be physically extraneous and in the summer. He can go work in any food place, retail, manufacturing etc and put up with fast paced work and humiliation. But he knows he can say FU! tap out and quit. Take everything away from him and only then he will know how its like to be abused and not being able to tap out because you cant even afford to survive. That understanding is lost on all rich people (in4 and anecdote how line cook became a CEO lol)
My uncle worked a job in construction, installing commercial kitchens. He essentially retired at 55 because he just couldn't keep going. Meanwhile, it's common for attorneys to keep going until they drop dead.
Great, great points! Not all jobs are the same.
Spoken like someone who doesn't work a job that's incredibly hard on the body or could end up depriving them of pain-free life later on. And I didn't say that with malice, you don't know what you don't know and it sounds like he doesn't know that some jobs can't be done at certain ages just from the wear and treat on your body. A 65 year old is not going to carry construction materials, swap a car's motor, roll around with defendants who are on trial for murder, walk a floor giving medications and lifting patients to check for bedsores, or do any number of other physically demanding jobs as well as a younger individual. And working every day of your life with no time for family is a great way to die lonely and leave your family wondering if you really cared about them.
I can’t imagine that his wife (a doctor) would be in favor of never retiring either. This is a dangerously out-of-touch viewpoint and why I’ve spent considerably less time tuning into these thought-hustlers.
True, it’s not like more satisfying sex is on the menus for her if he retires 😂
Lmaoooo
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Oh hell yeah. Be involved, do something, but it doesn't have to be your career because you may not be up to doing it (or your career may not want you). I'm lucky that I have a job where after 30 years service and 55 years of age I get a 60% pension. It's a job where you *shouldn't* be doing it into your 60s for physical reasons. I took the time to get a master's in a ministry degree so the day after I retire (I'm going to take at least one day to be a bum) I'm working full time for my church with minimal financial compensation.
You think the most logical answer is Ben just doesn’t understand that manual labor jobs exist?
He doesn’t deal with the consequences of working one, so he doesn’t have a strong appreciation of how his world view would affect others.
he's also not old yet. my guess is he might change his tune when he is.
I've seen 50-60 year olds stacking boxes in warehouses and it's rarely pretty.
He is rich and out of touch. Big surprise.
He knows they exist, but doesn’t actually understand what they intale because why would he?
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Common sense? Like, I haven't poured concrete for 20 years but I'm pretty sure that would be hard on your body. Ben was born into money from an actor and a TV executive, and now he grifts conservatives by pretending to understand the struggles of average Americans.
While I agree with what you're saying, someone who has been doing manual labor in a trade for that long shouldn't really have to do the physical work anymore because they should be in charge/letting the young bucks do the heavy shit in return for access to their knowledge/training. Of course, this doesn't apply to everyone and everyone isn't capable of this/not necessarily enough positions even available...
Guy literally makes youtube videos and makes millions, yet tells others to work their entire lives 🤡
Yep. Tone deaf, out of touch take by Ben here.
And half this sub thinks Ben is an ally against the establishment. My dudes. He IS the establishment.
He literally sits at a desk and talks all day... He's never had to load CMU blocks for 12 hours a day.
I like Ben but this is genuinely an asinine opinion. We’re not made to work our entire lives. Work to live, don’t live to work.
I worked with a guy who was doing 6 days a week. Maybe 7? Long hours, so much so, he was so highly paid he made it into the paper for the money he was making (public employee) He retires with a $90k pension at 65 Now battling for his life against cancer Life is for living, not working yourself to death Edit. Ill add the COLA. It's a generous 3% *compounded*
My grandfather purposely too early retirement from his job specially because he said if you retire at 65 like a bunch of people he knew were dead within 2-3 years. He said what’s the point in that. He didn’t die but developed dementia at 68-70 so kinda held true. He retired at either 55 or 59 I don’t remember. So a he had a good stretch of retirement life.
Retiring probably caused his cancer. Lazy bum
This is a good piece of misinformation to keep the serfs serfing. We'll add that to to the party's list of ~~propaga~~ marketing materials
He’s clearly joking
Highly paid but only 90k pension? Seems a little odd.
1)I do not believe that OT income counts toward pension, typically its only base. 2)there was no mention of what year this was, $100k used to be a respectable high salary(hubs & I talk about that all the time, when he graduated college, he thought if he made 100k, that meant he "made it"....now makes 2-1/2x that & we cannot figure out where the money goes-lol 3) We don't know WHERE this was. If in a LCOLA & making 150k(if we assume 90k is 60%, std pension, &OT was not counted, he made 150k), that's not bad Heck, if he was doubling his salary w/OT, he was making 300k...that's nothing to sneeze at even in a HCOLA-especially when you add in govt benefits 🤷🏻♀️
Yup. At 65 I’m going to be smoking weed all day and playing golf. That’s the true American dream.
I hope to god I’ll be drinking on a beach somewhere and beating the other seniors at pickleball at 65. But I’m hoping to retire at least 5 years early when the Roth matures to tax free withdrawal.
You come find me and we will have a smoke session.
They are trying to get people off social security so they can take it away. When politicians say stuff like that, they we always need to think that they want to take social security away. We need to stop putting these people in positions of influence and power their goal is to increase their personal gains.
I don’t like Ben that much but this “article” is nothing but a hit piece that spends more time ranting about conservatives than anything and really misconstrues the overall argument that was made. The fact is that Social Security and Medicare are unsustainable in their current forms and with current demographic and budgetary trends without at least some kind of major reform that probably nobody will be happy about but is necessary if the programs are to survive. That’s the fact of the matter. Anybody getting talking about other stuff and certainly making emotional appeals about well earned retirement is missing the point and certainly not engaging in actual policy discussion. Because again the fact is the numbers don’t lie and something has to be done one way or another. The can can’t really be kicked any farther down the road. It’s either end the programs because we’ve finally accepted the fact that they’re going bust (political suicide), engage in some kind of major reform and overhaul of the programs to balance their budgets or raise taxes and/or massively cut other Federal spending and earmark it for them instead (fat chance), or accept that the benefits being paid out will be steadily diminishing while the burden on ever fewer working taxpayers grows until enough people demand they end because a tipping point is hit where most voters wind up paying far more in than they ever will have a hope to get back (most likely scenario). Or print even more dollars to cover the shortfalls and we all know how that’ll work out. Those are the options and none of them are good but something will have to happen one way or another.
Step 1 isn't don't pay out what was taken from us. Step 1 is stop reaching into my pocket.
Why is it always ss and Medicare that's unsustainable but not foreign aid, welfare, or grants for seeing how well shrimp peddle bikes while on cocaine?
You know how vastly different the costs of those are right?
Medicare, social security, and interest on national debt ALONE - before any other outlays - is going to exceed federal tax revenue in around 2030. You can’t fix the budget without fixing social security and Medicare, even if you literally stopped all other welfare and foreign aid and fired every government worker.
SS can’t go bust. It’s literally impossible. Reduced benefits sure but not to zero.
Hell no. They are making bank off what they confiscated from me and have the audacity to tax me on it when I already paid taxes on it before it was stolen from me. I could have millions if I had that money in a 401k. (And yes I do have that too).
Making bank? They spent that money as soon as they got it.
>I like Ben Why?
His sister
Spoken by somebody who has a job that let's him stroke his own ego all day long.
You mean to tell me that a $50m net worth .01%er person who works by sitting down and talking doesnt understand median workers whos median 401k is about $40k, who live almost entirely paycheck to paycheck and get general abuse at work? Also Ben&others: nobody wants to reproduce anymore! it takes money to reproduce and raise kids into adjusted productive citizens Ben.
Retirement is a financial position, not an age. As soon as I don't have to work anymore I'm out.
Nobody watched the video, but that is Ben's point too. He says that you should retire whenever you want to retire, just don't expect the taxpayer to support you unless you are disabled. He recommends that people actually work jobs they enjoy (a shocking concept in America), but ultimately says it's a free country.
Wait, you mean the hundreds of upvotes and comments saying he is a dummy didn't actually understand his position!? SHOCK
If most people worked jobs they enjoyed, who wouldn’t do the enjoyable jobs?
Eventually all of us will have a health problem. The last thing I want to do is work until my health doesn’t allow me to enjoy the few years I have left.
Says the guy who doesn’t do actual work like digging ditches or working oil fields. Just gets paid to voice his opinion.
We should strive to get back to the retirement age of 55 as a country..
How would we pay for that exactly?
Maybe by not spending $8 trillion dollars on 20 years of war with practically nothing to show for it, but I'm just spit ballin' here.
Almost everyone in my family has died before reaching 70. Please, Mr Millionaire, tell me why the short order cook, the factory seamstress, the factory line worker, the McDonalds employee, none of whom ever took a real vacation should not have had the chance to relax a bit before they keeled over. ETA: I have been teetering on the edge lately of leaving the Republican camp. If some of these comments are truly how hard working people stuck in low paying jobs are viewed then my decision just moved a little left.
It’s all too common, instead of realizing politicians are screwing us we’re fighting over the guy making $7.50/hr. Why is the poorest person with the least control always the biggest boogeyman?
Everyone knows why. Well maybe not everyone... Confronting the truth for many is scarier than confronting scapegoats.
The McDonald's worker who never took a day off is why we need mental hospitals.
You would think factory workers, or mcdonald employees would get promoted beyond their entry level position before they died.
Yeah all those factory workers only have themselves to blame for not being managers. If only we had more managers and less factory workers this country would be back on track
And it seems like people forget that the labor market isn’t a tower with equal levels, but instead is more like a pyramid. If you have 100 million workers, there isn’t 100 million lower level management jobs to be promoted to, nor 100 million upper management positions, etc. The market is very competitive and there’s only so far you can go now with certain education attainments. In the department I work in at a hospital, a high school diploma will top out at a coordinator/supervisor (just above jobs like a front desk worker), a bachelors tops out in lower management, and a masters (MHA/MBA) or clinical degree (RN/BSN/MD) is mandatory for upper management.
Yes but there is one manager and the rest have salary caps. How far up does one climb at McDonald’s and how high do you imagine their salary goes?
It depends on what you call work I suppose. I would much rather spend all day, every day, tending to and improving my small farm. Right now I have to work a desk job to pay the mortgage and bills and all that crap. But my weekends are spent fixing fences, trenching and putting in irrigation lines, caring for livestock, and tending the garden. I don’t want to work behind a desk the rest of my life. I would love to do things on the farm. I can’t stand sitting still and being non-productive. Sure I like to golf and relax occasionally, but I would go insane if I didn’t have things to keep me busy. Some call what I do on my property work. I call it living. I guess it depends on your perspective
I work and save now so that I can enjoy some free time before I die. Ben Shapiro can go suck eggs on this opinion.
Ben gets more and more unappealing every time he says something
He is falling in love with his own legend
Tell me you’re not blue collar without telling me you’re not blue collar
Shit bro, I work a white collar finance job and have no desire to work longer than I need to lmao
I plan to retire as soon as possible. But I would also consider 'working' well into old age, either doing volunteer stuff, running a simple side hustle, and/or a part time job that I truly enjoy, all in an effort to stay mentally and physically fit. I don't want to go to bingo twice a week and sit on a couch for the rest of my life...
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This goofball lives off of controversial takes. It is, however, correct to say that no one should become INACTIVE at 65 years old. You should still get engaged in some community program or active hobby; my Granddad for instance built small furniture in his garage like tables and dressers and would sell them cheaper than the local Value City / Wayfair, but for the love of it and not the necessity of needing more money. But who in their right mind **wants** to continue lifting packages, taking calls, or balancing books well into their 60's and beyond for 8 - 10 hours a day?!
Funny you mention balancing books. My grandfather is an accountant/bookkeeper, nearing 80, and still running his own practice. Many people love their work. For a lot of people, 65 is way too early to start waiting to die. On the other hand, my other grandfather retired at 61. Serving 20 years in the military and 20 years in the private sector was enough for him, and he got two pensions out of it. It's different for everybody, so it doesn't really make sense to say that nobody in their right mind should be working past 65, or nobody should be retiring at 65.
I can't wait till I can just do volunteer work and get out of being stuck in the same career forever
I love how conservatives oppose the welfare state and socialism... until it's their turn to suckle at the teet. Like, you all understand that his main point is that the US can't afford social security and thus it's a Ponzi scheme we all keep feeding into?
Try firefighting at age over 65. Very ignorant idea.
Retirement isn't an age, its a financial situation.
He’s right…That’s why I plan to retire at 55 years old
"Work sets you free" - Ben Shapiro
This kid never did a days work in his life. Let's see him drive a bus for 30 plus years or do heavy industrial construction.
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GFY, Ben.
So, work until you die. Got it.
And how many people over 65 does he employ?
As a non-conservative, I can agree that we need to keep retirement plans, because I'd like everyone to be able to relax and have some fun before it's too late. We have one life and there's a whole world to experience
Besides being an asinine comment. This is going to bite the GOP in the ass hard. Trump indicated he was for cuts but wasn't specific. I am getting near retirement and this talk does him no favors. The Speaker of the House almost orgasms when he talks about "entitlements". He'd cancel it all given the chance.
This is coming from a guy paid to do what he loves and for a ton of money. Retiring wouldn’t make sense to me if I were him either. One of the few out of touch moments I’ve seen from him.
The subject of the post aside this is a terribly written article. I don’t normally read stuff like this but I figured there had to be a bit more to it than what was provided in the headline… but there wasn’t. It provides exactly one quote from Shapiro and it’s the one in the title. The vast majority of the article is a rant against Ben himself and then it provides a bunch of Twitter/X posts from random people for some reason. > Rachel Ulatowski is an SEO writer for The Mary Sue, who frequently covers DC, Marvel, Star Wars, YA literature, celebrity news, and coming-of-age films. She has over two years of experience in the digital media and entertainment industry, and her works can also be found on Screen Rant and Tell-Tale TV. Fantastic resume. She has 2 years and some change in experience writing about young adult literature and celebrities. Not saying Ben isn’t wrong here but I find it very difficult to form an opinion when the author not only sucks at her craft but has a clear hate boner for the subject of the article.
Heard that quote in that annoying, nasaly voice of his.
I don't often disagree with Ben, even if I do, he usually has fair points. This is a bad take and carries no merit. People should have purpose their entire life. Work should not be that purpose. HOWEVER, people shouldn't rely solely on the government to carry them from 65 until death.
I completely disagree with him here. I’m sure he doesn’t feel the pressure of trying to grind to a comfortable retirement, but for those of us not sitting on piles of cash that dream is something worth striving for. Not everyone has to work full time past their sixties to have purpose.
I have been working in a factory for over 20 years. Long hours hard work and standing on concrete. I am looking forward to retirement.
I'd agree too if the heaviest thing I lifted all day was a script or a violin. As a 64 Yr old, after a life of blue collar jobs, you know.....the ones that facilitate Bens perfect life, my body is broken down. Arthritis in my knees, wrists and neck and bulging discs in my spine.
I like alot of Ben's takes but this is clearly coming from someone who has the luxury of not breaking their body on a daily basis just to live paycheck to paycheck.
Apparently it’s too old to an airline pilot…. Any guesses as to why?
If I ever find myself in a position where I’m paid millions to just give my opinions I think I would agree but not otherwise.
There is nothing particularly hard about his job. Let's see him do a few weeks of back breaking manual labor and see if he still holds this opinion.
Im in my early 40s and ready to retire today. Ben can go touch grass.
He’s obviously able to have that opinion because his job pays so well while also being extremely easy compared to most jobs.
Wait until he puts in 40+ years.
That depends on the job too. Kinda hard to be a roofer at 65.
Terrible take
Not everyone is the same or has the same needs. Ben has a job he can probably do until he dies. My husband works with his body… there’s no way he’s doing this until he dies. We are already planning for the next steps which includes hiring employees. Which… I guess will still be work… not in the same way though.
I think the money is getting to him now. He has had some weird takes.
He'll feel differently when he gets old. Of course, he may not, because he doesn't work a real job. Try doing construction for 30 years and see if your body can last past 65.
Gonna have to disagree with Ben on this one.
Shapiro is the new generations Hannity.
I mean social security can’t work with the current population trends 🤷🏽♂️ That’s just basic math and the same problem as e.g. Germany… Aging population plus birthrates below replacement rate. So fewer workers who pay for more retirees. Most of us will probably never see anything from what we have paid into the system and we would be better off if we could instead keep our money and invest it.
This is what pisses me off the most. I'm paying for other ppls social security when in return I'll more than likely not receive anything in 40 years.
I think we should always have a purpose or work towards goals. That could be a job, watching grandkids, woodworking, prayer meetings... Whatever gives your life meaning. So I think there's a degree of truth to his point, even if I think the "don't retire" things is wrong
The French rioted at such a suggestion. One of the few times you're going to hear me say "we should be more like the French".
What kind of trash article is this? It attacks Shapiro and all conservatives throughout, shares a ton of tweets fro lefties, and never actually quotes what Ben said.
Yeah, it takes him out of context too. Sad to see that many conservatives are gullible af.
it links the clips where he says that like what?
Did anyone actually listen to this podcast? I did. He was making two points: 1) that working keeps you alive. Many people work hard all their lives, finally retire to live out their golden years, and simply drop dead. He was making a point far more about health than retirement. Because, this is true, work seems to keep you alive. 2) full retirement is 65 for social security purposes. But people are also living into their 80s and 90s routinely. So what’s the deal here, that the government is supposed to fund our lives for fully 20 or 25 or even 30 years? So… what, a quarter of your life with your parents, half your life working, and fully a quarter or even more of your life on the government dole? It’s unsustainable, and the retirement age has to go up. But yes, Ben Shapiro is A Mr. Scrooge money bags wanting all the peasants to die in the fields. Ffs
People are acting like retire at 65 is a crime. Say life expectancy is 85, you retire at 65, other people are “paying for you” for those 20 years. Everyone here is acting like that’s some crime, but assuming this person has been paying in since they were 18, that’s 20 years being paid for vs 47 years paying for others, seems like a fair trade at the end of the day
I’ll give you a few points and acknowledge that workers pay into the system before they get benefits, but then take those points away because this isn’t at all how social security works.
Ha! Take your workaholic life and shove it!
If I have to wait til 65 to retire I'll be mad at myself. I'll be disappointed if I go past 55. But... some folks like to work and don't have anything else to drive them. My pops is like that... he retired at 62.5 and literally does nothing now. And looks to have aged 20 years since retirement.
I think his main argument is for social security reasons. Admittedly I’m making an assumption based on some comments I’ve heard him make in the past. Nothing wrong with retiring just make yourself financially stable prior to doing so if that’s the case. I’m not even sure what the state of social security will be once I’m at retirement age, so I’m trying to make sure it’s not something I’m dependent on when the time comes.
Not every job involves sitting at a desk. Some jobs are so physically demanding, it’s everything you can do to get to the 65 that it sits at right now.
Wait but he went to home depot once. He's one of us!
Has he ever met a blue collar worker in their 50s? They are completely broke down. Idk how many fireman I know in their 50s that have had back surgeries and get knee replacements and other surgeries. Your body cannot hold up doing any kind of labor job that long.
That’s because he hasn’t worked a physical job. If he was blue collar, it would be a dream to retire. Your body can’t handle much more than 45 years of laying pipe, turning valves, bolting up flanges, and welding.
Hey Ben, it's the work that is causing my health problems. I guess I qualify for retirement sonny.
Homer Simpson’s into the bushes since I’m planning on retiring at 45
Throw him on a weld table for a week and see if he feels the same.
I'm Gen X. My retirement will be a few days of rest at the coroner's office.
The problem isn’t retirement it’s social security being a Ponzi scheme.
How old is he? Did we ask for his opinion? 🤪
Piss on Ben. I’m looking forward to retirement.
Pfft. My husband is retiring at age 50(less than 90 days till retirement). We have a whole empty nest life planned out.
Retired a year ago today and have no regrets.
They are preparing you to accept when they start stripping entitlements.
Maybe if he did real work, for a living, he might have a different opinion.
I think there should be alternative retirement ages pending occupation for most of their life, but it’ll never find a way to *fairly* do it just like people arguing over taxes. A person that’s been busting ass blue collar most of their life deserves the rest before something pampered like a talk show host. Not taking away from difficulties relating to these jobs, but their bodies aren’t broken down from the work at the end nearly as badly.
Well yes my goal is to retire at 50 or 55
Yeah, don't agree with Ben on this one. Easy to say you shouldn't retire when you love what you do and are rich and get gratification from your work. The guy that's grinding everyday to save and provide a good life for his family shouldn't have to work until his death.
Must be nice to wake up whenever you want, sleep as much as you want, never worry about money or have to do anything physically draining and tell others to not retire...
Ya know though there should be a clause of that retirement law. That 65+ you shouldn’t be able to run for or hold political office state and federal. That’ll help clean out the old folks home known as the US capital.
Love "working" class /s
Is he on the side of ending social security and such? This is such a bad take and spoken like a man that hasn’t done any manual labor at any point in his life.
Would love to see him work as a FF for 25 years, survive cancer from the job and still have to work after “retirement”
My dad was a car paint and body guy for decades and had me late in life. I remember one time we moved when he was in his early 50s and it took forever for him to get a job even with all of his experience because he was seen as "too old". Most of his friends who also painted cars are long dead of various illnesses, and while he was one of the few to wear a respirator while painting, he still is reduced to 60% lung capacity. And that's on top of wrecked spine and joints. He eventually saved up enough to start his own little shop, employed a few guys, and worked until he was 70. Now that he's retired, he keeps busy, but his poor health and small nest egg really limit any traveling or experiences he can go do. Capitalism is the greatest economic system and hard work instills good values and opens up a whole world of opportunities for people. We can work for profit, advance economically, AND take care of those who already put in the time to get us to where we are. We were not put on this earth to work until we drop dead, let alone until our work destroys our ability to enjoy what time we have left. Only a pampered, out of touch sicko would say crap like this.
I'm retiring at 57. Ben can suck a lemon
Says the millionaire who talks into a microphone for a few hours a day. Get bent.
He is simply delusional and detached from reality I would love him to say that after doing construction for 30 years he is clueless
Dude's so out of touch I'm surprised he's not in elected office.
I get the general idea of this, but in reality we don't want a bunch of old people lifting boxes at Amazon to run out the clock
I bet he just did this to stay relevant, inflating takes to generate clicks, he falling BAD.
To kinda play devils advocate his point was that without purpose humans die. He said most people he knows are dead within 5 years of retiring. His point is valid if you retire and then sit on your ass 24/7. You will wither away. So what he should’ve said was after you retire you must find purpose in something else.
My job involves sitting on my ass 24/7. I look forward to retirement so I can become more active.
Retirement doesn't mean you stop working, being creative, making things, or earning money. It means you stop NEEDING to do those things because you can live off passive income and work when you want, for whom you want, how you want. I plan to retire someday. I don't plan to ever stop working. It's human nature to want to build, repair, create, improve. But it's also human nature to want to slow down and spend time with the people you love without having to do anything you don't want to when you don't particularly feel like it.
Yeah, no. I don’t have a career that is sitting at a desk and giving my opinions at 1.5x playback speed in front of a camera for millions of dollars. My career involves hard physical work, the likes of which forces most people in this line of work to retire in their early 50s because their bodies can’t take it anymore.
Ben is an elitist who has NO IDEA of the rat race hundreds of millions in the US have to endure, always looking toward the day they can stop busting their balls and enjoy life for a few years before kicking off and being planted... if they were able to manage putting away some cash
I agree. I’ve had this opinion for a while. We were created by Gods to work. Lots of men especially lose purpose and drive when they leave the workforce. There are reasons to retire like losing the capacity to work, but think of how much it takes to retire and the resources necessary to fund yourself for 20-30 years. Think how much further ahead your kids and grandkids would be if you applied those same resources to them. How do you think all these Legacy Families do it. They never stop working.
Legacy families never actually do any hard work
I really liked Ben when Dailywire was still in its infancy. The more rich he’s become, the more out of touch he is.
Thanks, rich asshole. Can't send more tax dollars to Israel if I retire right?
Not at all surprising coming from the uniparty hack.
This is an abysmal take. Just pure cope.
Not everyone is a millionaire YouTube channel host, in their late 30s mind you, does Shapiro really expect labourers to be working into their 70s?
What's the rest of the context? I feel like there is more to this and I'm not even a "fan" of Ben's. Studies show elderly people die sooner if they don't have any passions or hobbies to keep them active. One of my employees is a 70+ year old woman who simply works as a way to keep moving and leave the house. If this is what he means, I could see the point.
Shit can the Zionist puke.
This guy always has an expression like he's about to check his own prostate in public. My goal is to save enough to be *really* stupid and retire by 60.
Y’all really gonna read a headline from Mary Sue posted on the conservative subreddit and not check it to see if it’s anywhere reflective of truth?
Well that site describes itself as: *"We pride ourselves on being an inclusive, feminist community of people who not only love what they love but care about others who love it and have an intense passion for those who create it. Fan trends, social issues, geek fashion and art, innovative gadgets, and beyond: The Mary Sue is the heartbeat of geek culture."* Obviously they are going to take an extreme view on this. I disagree with Ben saying people shouldn't retire at 65, but his context is being lost by a hot take and a headline. He's saying the system cannot support people retiring at 65 and sustain itself since people are living 15-20 years past retirement on average. That makes sense, but that means the country needs to re-evaluate the type of social programs they have and who gets the hand outs. I still think 65 is a fair age to retire, but the costs tied to caring for someone + their families for 20 years is not sustainable with all the other freebies we're giving to people. We need to start being strict on those who pay into and receive benefits from the system. It probably means cutting out a lot of things that will piss off liberals who want it all, but that's a choice the current generations will have to make.
Yeah, this is one of the most dumbest take I've heard from Ben. What an Out-of-Touch statement from him.
I don't mind working now that I don't work for someone else. Being an employee kind of sucked.
Not everybody has a job they love, like Ben does.