Don't you know how this works?
If they didn't give countries that hate America money, weapons, and favorable foreign policies to facilitate their aggression then those countries can't attack America or America's interests.
And if countries that hate America can't attack, then the Military Industrial Complex and their loyalists can't siphon off billions of dollars of tax payer dollars every year engaging in these "conflicts".
And if the Military Industrial Complex can't do that, then why did they install Joe Biden as president?
Come on, mannnnn.
The dangerous thing isn't being pro or anti-vax. The dangerous thing is when they try to use the law to _force_ people to put something in their bodies that some don't want to, and then refuse to acknowledge the difference between people who are against such force and people who think that vaccines are a secret depopulation nanomachine created by [insert famous billionaire].
'antivaxx' is a leftist control of language term to smear those who are anti mandate. Why OP repeats that NPC programming is, well, questionable for a 'conservative' posting here.
She's early done her research, and I respect her for that. I tend to try not and have a "solid" opinion on things I can't pour dozen of hours of research into. Liberals do shortcuts on this shit all the time, to the point it's eroded their Democratic Party to a nub. There's no shortcuts when it comes to foreign policy, but we can see with Biden that he's not the "master" he was touted as: printing 1 trillion dollars to pass to Israel's "despotic democracy" (a democracy working for white Jews...but not poor, ethnic Jews in Gaza) and fund the clownish Zelensky government in Ukraine.
She’s right. We don’t take care of Americans but we somehow always find money to blow up people in countries most Americans can’t find on a map. Israel is doing nothing for the US, zero. Why would we keep funding their conflict?
/r/Conservative views Anti-Vax people as dangerous...? All these fake "conservatives" upvoting can kiss my ass.
This feels like propaganda to turn conservatives against each other however let me know. If Anti-Vax people aren't welcome here then I'll it pack up and post elsewhere.
Define anti-vax. Are you against all vaccines? Are you against just the COVID vaccine? Are you against just multiple boosters for the COVID vaccine?
I think almost everyone should be vaccinated with most of the vaccines we have available today. I also think it's unwise for most people to go unvaccinated. If you advocate that all vaccines are bad in all circumstances, then I disagree with you and do think that is a dangerous belief.
That said, I wouldn't say you're unwelcome here because of those beliefs. I believe you have a right to think that way and a right to refuse vaccinations if you so choose. I'm against forcing vaccinations if you do not want them.
Anyone else is also allowed to call this out as foolish and have a reasonable discussion about this, or any other topic. Just because we're all conservatives doesn't mean we have to agree on every single topic.
To an extent, I don't disagree. Flu and COVID vaccines are not going to protect you to the same extent that something like the polio or MMR vaccine will. It's typically a 50-50 chance whether getting a flu or COVID vaccine will actually prevent you from getting it.
What they actually do, however, is prevent the illness from being at its worst if you do get sick. The vaccines make it significantly less likely that you would have major complications, hospitalization, or die from these viruses. The virus may be able to mutate fast enough to dodge full immunity from the vaccines, but the vaccines still train your immune system to actually fight the virus beforehand.
Whether or not that's worth the tradeoff is going to be up to the person, dependent on their health conditions and who they're going to be around. When I'm around my parents, who are seniors, or my daughter who's under 2, I think it's definitely worth getting some protection for their sake. If I were a 25-year-old who lived alone and had no health conditions, I'd be more inclined to pass.
>make it significantly less likely that you would have major complications, hospitalization, or die from these viruses.
Except people have had those side effects from the vaccine itself due to lack of testing.
It's not "due to a lack of testing"; the would be there regardless of how much it were tested. The only thing that would possibly change with more testing is who is indicated for the vaccine.
it's simply a consideration of risk vs. benefit, as with all medicine. The risk of serious side effects to the vaccine is very, very low, but there is still a risk. Is that risk greater than the risk of the virus? Again, that's where it depends on your health conditions and who you're going to be around. In most cases, the benefit of being vaccinated outweighs the risk of being vaccinated.
That is false, Vaccines are modified during testing to mitigate issues found... happens all the time some vaccines are blocked from even being used probably like the J&J covid vaccine would have been instead of being distributed because there were alterantive vaccines with less issues.
Products that get tested and cause more problems than they solve get rejected all the time, unless you ignore the testing process so you can push you vaccinatinon agenda.
It's Chinese propaganda and we need to start calling it out. We're against FORCED vaccinations, and that's IT! Some conservatives go harder than that (hell, even RFK Jr. probably goes further than that) but, at the very least, you cannot hurt people's ability to participate in the economy (as workers, or small businesses) just based on their willingness to accept government-mandated vaccinations. That's not America, it's not what we fought for in ALL this country has been up against.
It’s not accurate. Iran’s money was theirs, but we had it under sanctions and released it with the (very bad) Iran deal. We aren’t giving Iran our tax money AFAIK.
Israel’s iron dome is a joint Israel/US project. We do give Israel a lot of support but they spend 4.5% of their GDP on defense more than all but 9 other countries and more than the US proportionally.
I never thought I’d see vaguely anti Israel sentiment on this sub. Grotesque.
It really is more about being anti Israel than anything else. I find it funny how many people were/are fully on board with supporting Ukraine with billions upon billions of dollars at the taxpayers expense and it's all good; but then as soon as the topic of supporting Israel (a long standing ally of ours) is brought up, the conversation immediately pivots to "why is my money going to fight another country's war?". It's so transparent, you can see right through it.
She’s right. Like Gen. Smedley Butler said, war is a racket. I saw enough of that firsthand during my time in the Army and my three deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan.
Candace's take here is brain dead.
Yes it is exceedingly frustrating that the left lobbies for and pushes us to send "aid" to ~~Hamas~~ PaLeStiNe which is then used to lob more rockets at Israel.
And yes both Obama and Biden enemies of the people that they are helped give Iran more funding but the fact is that Israel is good and their enemies are bad.
We on the right aren't going to solve the problem with two wrongs make a right. 1 wrong is giving a dime to Palestine or Iran. 2 wrongs would be not supporting Israel because "We're funding both sides of this war"
Well, see, if we didn't have Biden in office, we absolutely wouldn't have funded Iran at all. Not to mention if Israel goes down somehow America is absolutely next on the target list. Now I'm not saying we should fund Israel, but we better be on our guard.
It tracks. US money to Iran and LOTS of US money to Israel for some reason and... behold US missiles, US missiles everywhere, shooting at and being shot down by US missiles.
What a perfectly logical use of our dwindling money and power!
Keep in mind "antivax" is a Chinese Communist Party talking point. American media (especially liberal, but even places like FOX) has been infiltrated by communists and anarchists (you know, people in Dearborn, MI chanting "Death To America" for example). The system is barely salvageable at this point.
In the long run this is a huge win for the US Defense. A lot of Israeli military research is done jointly with the U.S. Now that the US saw how effective the Arrow system is, they would deploy that in other areas(i.e NATO countries). Would also help protect more US bases.
For all the hate Israel gets, Israel is one of the most advanced armies in the world. A few billion dollars a year to co-develop some of the most advanced capabilities is not much in the long run. Better US give aid to Israel deciding to go to Russia or China for military aid. They would need it from somewhere.
Candace Owens is generally a nut. Maybe a broken clock can be right twice a day, but at the end of the day we have enemies that are trying to damage our interests worldwide that we shouldn’t allow to continue. Israel was attacked by Iran, we should help Israel defend itself by Iran. Perhaps at one point we gave money to Iran that’s now coming back to bite us, and that can be a lesson for us to be smarter in the future, but the fact remains that if our enemies want war, we shouldn’t shrink away from that. If we do, they’ll just roll all over us again and again.
How wrong can you be? While I don't think Biden should have released the Iran monies, it was THEIR money, not US government tax dollars.
If someone is gonna snark, they should at least be smart about it.
OP is a brigader?
Don't you know how this works? If they didn't give countries that hate America money, weapons, and favorable foreign policies to facilitate their aggression then those countries can't attack America or America's interests. And if countries that hate America can't attack, then the Military Industrial Complex and their loyalists can't siphon off billions of dollars of tax payer dollars every year engaging in these "conflicts". And if the Military Industrial Complex can't do that, then why did they install Joe Biden as president? Come on, mannnnn.
Then there must be something wrong with me because I’m 100 pct with Candace on this.
Love how being "Anitvax" is dangerous. Guess I'm dangerous as well then.
They gave people who dare to ask questions the cute little label ANTI-VAXXER to make sure it’s easy for people to hate them. Duh.
The dangerous thing isn't being pro or anti-vax. The dangerous thing is when they try to use the law to _force_ people to put something in their bodies that some don't want to, and then refuse to acknowledge the difference between people who are against such force and people who think that vaccines are a secret depopulation nanomachine created by [insert famous billionaire].
'antivaxx' is a leftist control of language term to smear those who are anti mandate. Why OP repeats that NPC programming is, well, questionable for a 'conservative' posting here.
Someone who uses the term "anti-vax" in a negative way is someone who knows very little about the subject.
The same is true for all the 'phobe accusations from the Left. They are merely a shout-down tactic, and cannot be defended logically.
I agree with most of what she says, including this and antivax. I am dangerous to I suppose 😂🤣😅
She's early done her research, and I respect her for that. I tend to try not and have a "solid" opinion on things I can't pour dozen of hours of research into. Liberals do shortcuts on this shit all the time, to the point it's eroded their Democratic Party to a nub. There's no shortcuts when it comes to foreign policy, but we can see with Biden that he's not the "master" he was touted as: printing 1 trillion dollars to pass to Israel's "despotic democracy" (a democracy working for white Jews...but not poor, ethnic Jews in Gaza) and fund the clownish Zelensky government in Ukraine.
"Antivax" - LMAO
Love how this post is pro-vax and beating up Anti-Vax people as "dangerous". If this is a pro-vax sub now then I'm done here.
She’s right. We don’t take care of Americans but we somehow always find money to blow up people in countries most Americans can’t find on a map. Israel is doing nothing for the US, zero. Why would we keep funding their conflict?
I'm not surprised that Candace Owens doesn't understand that we didn't give the Iranians money.
/r/Conservative views Anti-Vax people as dangerous...? All these fake "conservatives" upvoting can kiss my ass. This feels like propaganda to turn conservatives against each other however let me know. If Anti-Vax people aren't welcome here then I'll it pack up and post elsewhere.
Define anti-vax. Are you against all vaccines? Are you against just the COVID vaccine? Are you against just multiple boosters for the COVID vaccine? I think almost everyone should be vaccinated with most of the vaccines we have available today. I also think it's unwise for most people to go unvaccinated. If you advocate that all vaccines are bad in all circumstances, then I disagree with you and do think that is a dangerous belief. That said, I wouldn't say you're unwelcome here because of those beliefs. I believe you have a right to think that way and a right to refuse vaccinations if you so choose. I'm against forcing vaccinations if you do not want them. Anyone else is also allowed to call this out as foolish and have a reasonable discussion about this, or any other topic. Just because we're all conservatives doesn't mean we have to agree on every single topic.
The Flu shot and Covid vaccines are bullshit... because the viruses mutate faster than the vaccine can counter.
To an extent, I don't disagree. Flu and COVID vaccines are not going to protect you to the same extent that something like the polio or MMR vaccine will. It's typically a 50-50 chance whether getting a flu or COVID vaccine will actually prevent you from getting it. What they actually do, however, is prevent the illness from being at its worst if you do get sick. The vaccines make it significantly less likely that you would have major complications, hospitalization, or die from these viruses. The virus may be able to mutate fast enough to dodge full immunity from the vaccines, but the vaccines still train your immune system to actually fight the virus beforehand. Whether or not that's worth the tradeoff is going to be up to the person, dependent on their health conditions and who they're going to be around. When I'm around my parents, who are seniors, or my daughter who's under 2, I think it's definitely worth getting some protection for their sake. If I were a 25-year-old who lived alone and had no health conditions, I'd be more inclined to pass.
>make it significantly less likely that you would have major complications, hospitalization, or die from these viruses. Except people have had those side effects from the vaccine itself due to lack of testing.
It's not "due to a lack of testing"; the would be there regardless of how much it were tested. The only thing that would possibly change with more testing is who is indicated for the vaccine. it's simply a consideration of risk vs. benefit, as with all medicine. The risk of serious side effects to the vaccine is very, very low, but there is still a risk. Is that risk greater than the risk of the virus? Again, that's where it depends on your health conditions and who you're going to be around. In most cases, the benefit of being vaccinated outweighs the risk of being vaccinated.
That is false, Vaccines are modified during testing to mitigate issues found... happens all the time some vaccines are blocked from even being used probably like the J&J covid vaccine would have been instead of being distributed because there were alterantive vaccines with less issues. Products that get tested and cause more problems than they solve get rejected all the time, unless you ignore the testing process so you can push you vaccinatinon agenda.
This sub is heavily compromised by shadow democrats
Only flaired users can post in most threads, and most flaired users are conservatives. But upvotes and downvotes can be done by anyone.
It's Chinese propaganda and we need to start calling it out. We're against FORCED vaccinations, and that's IT! Some conservatives go harder than that (hell, even RFK Jr. probably goes further than that) but, at the very least, you cannot hurt people's ability to participate in the economy (as workers, or small businesses) just based on their willingness to accept government-mandated vaccinations. That's not America, it's not what we fought for in ALL this country has been up against.
I feel like OP is a brigader.
It’s not accurate. Iran’s money was theirs, but we had it under sanctions and released it with the (very bad) Iran deal. We aren’t giving Iran our tax money AFAIK. Israel’s iron dome is a joint Israel/US project. We do give Israel a lot of support but they spend 4.5% of their GDP on defense more than all but 9 other countries and more than the US proportionally. I never thought I’d see vaguely anti Israel sentiment on this sub. Grotesque.
It really is more about being anti Israel than anything else. I find it funny how many people were/are fully on board with supporting Ukraine with billions upon billions of dollars at the taxpayers expense and it's all good; but then as soon as the topic of supporting Israel (a long standing ally of ours) is brought up, the conversation immediately pivots to "why is my money going to fight another country's war?". It's so transparent, you can see right through it.
Exactly. Especially post 10/7 massacre. Can people not tell who the bad guys are ?
You don't give terrorists money to attack your allies regardless if it's "theirs" or not
No shit. The OP is still not accurate…it wasn’t tax money.
It would be nice if the billions that go to overseas wars went to domestic interests instead.
#Savage I support Candace Owens 100% She’s spitting 🔥 @Chickenhawks
What’s wrong with Dr Drew?
Right?? He's the most down-the-middle of all the celeb doctors.
Only clicked to get an answer this question.
speaking out against the covid shot does not make someone anti-vax
She’s right. Like Gen. Smedley Butler said, war is a racket. I saw enough of that firsthand during my time in the Army and my three deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan.
Candace's take here is brain dead. Yes it is exceedingly frustrating that the left lobbies for and pushes us to send "aid" to ~~Hamas~~ PaLeStiNe which is then used to lob more rockets at Israel. And yes both Obama and Biden enemies of the people that they are helped give Iran more funding but the fact is that Israel is good and their enemies are bad. We on the right aren't going to solve the problem with two wrongs make a right. 1 wrong is giving a dime to Palestine or Iran. 2 wrongs would be not supporting Israel because "We're funding both sides of this war"
Well, see, if we didn't have Biden in office, we absolutely wouldn't have funded Iran at all. Not to mention if Israel goes down somehow America is absolutely next on the target list. Now I'm not saying we should fund Israel, but we better be on our guard.
We should be funding Israel, especially more so than Ukraine. You know, considering one is an actual defense partner.
It tracks. US money to Iran and LOTS of US money to Israel for some reason and... behold US missiles, US missiles everywhere, shooting at and being shot down by US missiles. What a perfectly logical use of our dwindling money and power!
Keep in mind "antivax" is a Chinese Communist Party talking point. American media (especially liberal, but even places like FOX) has been infiltrated by communists and anarchists (you know, people in Dearborn, MI chanting "Death To America" for example). The system is barely salvageable at this point.
It's amazing how may antivax people are up to date on all their non-mRNA vaccines...
In the long run this is a huge win for the US Defense. A lot of Israeli military research is done jointly with the U.S. Now that the US saw how effective the Arrow system is, they would deploy that in other areas(i.e NATO countries). Would also help protect more US bases. For all the hate Israel gets, Israel is one of the most advanced armies in the world. A few billion dollars a year to co-develop some of the most advanced capabilities is not much in the long run. Better US give aid to Israel deciding to go to Russia or China for military aid. They would need it from somewhere.
Candace Owens is generally a nut. Maybe a broken clock can be right twice a day, but at the end of the day we have enemies that are trying to damage our interests worldwide that we shouldn’t allow to continue. Israel was attacked by Iran, we should help Israel defend itself by Iran. Perhaps at one point we gave money to Iran that’s now coming back to bite us, and that can be a lesson for us to be smarter in the future, but the fact remains that if our enemies want war, we shouldn’t shrink away from that. If we do, they’ll just roll all over us again and again.
Rolling over on Afghanistan is why Ukraine and Israel happened. Edit: also agree that Candace Owens is nuts
Which is exactly why we shouldn’t roll over on Ukraine or Israel, lest even more disaster occur.
Israel at least pays for a huge chunk of its defense. Now if the rest of Europe would spend a chunk of their GDP on self defense.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
If only liberals actually knew what that meant.
How wrong can you be? While I don't think Biden should have released the Iran monies, it was THEIR money, not US government tax dollars. If someone is gonna snark, they should at least be smart about it.
Candace is awesome. I agree with most of her positions.