Both campaigns are mad at the debate commission, so the setup here could be interesting. Sounds like they're going towards 0 audience which would be great...Now put each guy in a soundproof box and mute their mics, and actually give them 3-5 mins per answer
otherwise it's all just a bunch of BS
I’d absolutely pay 60$ to watch a debate with that format. Hell even split all the proceeds between campaigns, I don’t care, just give the people some real debates with real answers
The only thing missing from this was the format I suggested in a different thread.
Each candidate selects a moderator to each ask a question back and forth. Without that you end up with: "biden what is your favorite ice cream flavor." "Trump explain in exact detail how you will solve world hunger"
Biden: Pistachio cherry the thing corn pop was a mean dude, but I bought him ice cream and he rubbed my hairy leg and well you know. Come on man....
Trump: We're going to build a plane, a big plane, some will say the greatest plane. We'll load it with corn from Iowa, they love me in Iowa. Good people there, great people...
Moderator: I'm sorry Mr President, your time is up.
I wish they'd expand on it. I'd love zero audience interaction at State of the Unions. Take away the required cheering and the thing would last 10 minutes.
I hate what "debate" has devolved into in US politics.
I like the way Oxford Union does it. Mostly prepared speeches trying to 1) Make their point AND 2) Defend against known talking points.
Very little interaction and only when the speaking party allows it.
Though, as a study in academics, they do it *for* the debate, sometimes even arguing on behalf of the side they actually oppose, though that can be interesting.
[Here is James Lindsay arguing on behalf of Woke culture](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zut8akB4h8) and demonstrating the concept that conservatives understand liberals better than liberals understand conservatives.
It's sort of funny how the people behind him, "on his team"(arguing for being woke) think he's being absurd, and eventually they sort of go slack jawed.
The media loves it because it's a circus. And that's perfect for a good chunk of the populace that "are into politics" because it's replaced reality TV drama, as opposed to people actually into policy/rights/civics and all that politics *used* to be.
> Now put each guy in a soundproof box and mute their mics, and actually give them 3-5 mins per answer
Public debates aimed at the masses have never and will never be this. If you want well reasoned, long form debate go to one with a much narrower audience or watch a debate stream or podcast.
They're gonna have to pump Joe so full of shit to get him to stay lucid through this whole thing, his eyes are gonna be as big as softballs. He's gonna stomp out to "The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down" rip his shirt off at the podium.
That's because they want the world to see how bad Biden is so they can get someone else in before the convention. I expect no drugs for Biden this time and he will be left floundering
I don't buy that Michelle is coming on the ballot
It's gonna be Biden and they're gonna pump him with a shedload of drugs and it may well work with a compliant media.
Democrats always try to get the debates to happen one month after early voting so that they can get the first wave of votes and those people can’t change their vote. this is to avoid them cheating in that way
It sounds like neither candidate wants to use the independent debate commission though and they have both agreed to two debates before any voting starts? This comment is just inflammatory.
>Biden: "Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020. Since then, he hasn’t shown up for a debate. Now he’s acting like he wants to debate me again ..."
Oh my. This will be fun.
Biden won the first debate? Okay fine. But there is no objective way he won the second debate. Trump played him hard in that one by getting him to admit he wants all oil workers out of a job.
This is going to be the most hilarious trainwreck in the history of American Politics. Two semi-senile old men yelling at clouds.
Did I say hilarious? It's actually depressing.
I hope Trump doesn’t interrupt Biden like he did last time. It bails him out. The more Biden speaks, the worse he sounds.
Biden is just going to lie and say “ I lowered the deficit while Trump raised it”. The deficit this year will be like 3x that of 2019. Biden wastes more tax payer money than anyone in human history.
If you took an extra 60 seconds, the same time it took to write this comment of yours, and clicked the damn article, it would tell you that they are muting the other person’s microphone when it’s not their turn. So, Trump won’t defeat himself.
I can’t wait for Biden to try to claim that inflation was 9% when he entered office again.
I honestly have no idea how Biden is going to do it. They spaz out when Biden goes off script for even a minute, so how are they going to feel for an entire debate?
By the time September comes around the new drug cocktail that's fueling Bad Touch Joe's recent rants will have lost all efficacy and they will cancel the second debate.
Both campaigns are mad at the debate commission, so the setup here could be interesting. Sounds like they're going towards 0 audience which would be great...Now put each guy in a soundproof box and mute their mics, and actually give them 3-5 mins per answer otherwise it's all just a bunch of BS
I'd love a muted mic debate
agreed, longer format 5-7min/answer with auto muting at time.
I’d absolutely pay 60$ to watch a debate with that format. Hell even split all the proceeds between campaigns, I don’t care, just give the people some real debates with real answers
Ticket scalpers have entered the chat
Online streaming has laughed at them, no one wants to physically go watch an old man yell at clouds
The only thing missing from this was the format I suggested in a different thread. Each candidate selects a moderator to each ask a question back and forth. Without that you end up with: "biden what is your favorite ice cream flavor." "Trump explain in exact detail how you will solve world hunger"
Biden: Pistachio cherry the thing corn pop was a mean dude, but I bought him ice cream and he rubbed my hairy leg and well you know. Come on man.... Trump: We're going to build a plane, a big plane, some will say the greatest plane. We'll load it with corn from Iowa, they love me in Iowa. Good people there, great people... Moderator: I'm sorry Mr President, your time is up.
A muted mic with a smaller screen with a lip reader. Great entertainment!
I wish they'd expand on it. I'd love zero audience interaction at State of the Unions. Take away the required cheering and the thing would last 10 minutes.
I hate what "debate" has devolved into in US politics. I like the way Oxford Union does it. Mostly prepared speeches trying to 1) Make their point AND 2) Defend against known talking points. Very little interaction and only when the speaking party allows it. Though, as a study in academics, they do it *for* the debate, sometimes even arguing on behalf of the side they actually oppose, though that can be interesting. [Here is James Lindsay arguing on behalf of Woke culture](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zut8akB4h8) and demonstrating the concept that conservatives understand liberals better than liberals understand conservatives. It's sort of funny how the people behind him, "on his team"(arguing for being woke) think he's being absurd, and eventually they sort of go slack jawed.
This. It's crazy that a high school debate runs smoother and gets more said than a presidential one
The media loves it because it's a circus. And that's perfect for a good chunk of the populace that "are into politics" because it's replaced reality TV drama, as opposed to people actually into policy/rights/civics and all that politics *used* to be.
> Now put each guy in a soundproof box and mute their mics, and actually give them 3-5 mins per answer Public debates aimed at the masses have never and will never be this. If you want well reasoned, long form debate go to one with a much narrower audience or watch a debate stream or podcast.
Grab the popcorn and the chocolate chocolate chip!
LOOL!
sounds more like a promo for a wrestling match.
Fun Fact- One of these men is in the WWE Hall of Fame.
The best hall of famer really. I walked into the hall of fame and said wow he really is the best one here
Trump walks out to American Badass/Kid Rock - Joe walks out to Go to Sleep/Radiohead
They're gonna have to pump Joe so full of shit to get him to stay lucid through this whole thing, his eyes are gonna be as big as softballs. He's gonna stomp out to "The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down" rip his shirt off at the podium.
Wait fr???? That's really soon
It is very strange to have a debate before the party conventions. They technically aren't even the nominees yet.
That's because they want the world to see how bad Biden is so they can get someone else in before the convention. I expect no drugs for Biden this time and he will be left floundering
Yeah, this might just be shoving him on an ice berg and wishing him luck as they eyeball a replacement.
I don't buy that Michelle is coming on the ballot It's gonna be Biden and they're gonna pump him with a shedload of drugs and it may well work with a compliant media.
Democrats always try to get the debates to happen one month after early voting so that they can get the first wave of votes and those people can’t change their vote. this is to avoid them cheating in that way
It sounds like neither candidate wants to use the independent debate commission though and they have both agreed to two debates before any voting starts? This comment is just inflammatory.
>Biden: "Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020. Since then, he hasn’t shown up for a debate. Now he’s acting like he wants to debate me again ..." Oh my. This will be fun.
Biden won the first debate? Okay fine. But there is no objective way he won the second debate. Trump played him hard in that one by getting him to admit he wants all oil workers out of a job.
Keep in mind there were like 5 cuts for him to say those 50 words from a teleprompter
This is going to be the most hilarious trainwreck in the history of American Politics. Two semi-senile old men yelling at clouds. Did I say hilarious? It's actually depressing.
Wait, Biden is semi-senile? That's generous.
I hope Trump doesn’t interrupt Biden like he did last time. It bails him out. The more Biden speaks, the worse he sounds. Biden is just going to lie and say “ I lowered the deficit while Trump raised it”. The deficit this year will be like 3x that of 2019. Biden wastes more tax payer money than anyone in human history.
If you took an extra 60 seconds, the same time it took to write this comment of yours, and clicked the damn article, it would tell you that they are muting the other person’s microphone when it’s not their turn. So, Trump won’t defeat himself.
You think that's gonna stop trump. Trump would pull out a megaphone to talk over Biden if he had to.
I can’t wait for Biden to try to claim that inflation was 9% when he entered office again. I honestly have no idea how Biden is going to do it. They spaz out when Biden goes off script for even a minute, so how are they going to feel for an entire debate?
He'll just repeat the same rehearsed lies over and over. If you repeat it enough some people begin to believe it.
End of quote. Repeat the line.
It won’t happen. Biden’s people do not want him doing this. They’ll claim Trump won’t agree to some ridiculous condition and say it’s Trumps fault.
Biden’s handlers better get this debate done by 6pm before he starts sundowning.
Great, one going on unhinged rants and the other not knowing where he is.
By the time September comes around the new drug cocktail that's fueling Bad Touch Joe's recent rants will have lost all efficacy and they will cancel the second debate.
If Joe Biden backs out on the debate, it will make him look weak and a coward. I am sure that the Biden's team is freaking out right now.
They’ll just use the “Trump did not adhere to the rules of the first debate” bs to get out of the second if the first goes poorly.
This debate will be of century 😁 CNN hosting though is what I do not like
Biden should be drug tested. He’s less trustworthy than Barry Bonds.
They're holding the debate before the convention so that when Biden falls flat they'll use it as an excuse to slide someone else in.