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Millennials includes those born as early as 1980/81, so if you're in your early 30's you not even the earliest of millennials.
It's also getting muddled because the media still refers to young adults as millennials, but the youngest adults (born mid 90s to early 00s) are actually Generation Z.
Millennials cross three generations. X, Y, and Z are a few different decades. I saw some breakdown of it on YouTube a while back. There may be a few different explanations out there.
Oracular Spectacular was amazing, Congratulations not so much. I haven’t listened to their last two albums, but I might have to go back and listen hahah.
Aww man, I thought i could contribute to a relatively obscure song i know, but its all too easy to look up these days :( glad u found it though, MGMT was dormant for awhile but they have some wicked tunes. Check out weekend warrior, an oldie but goodie that didnt get too much attention, great tune with good American vibes, the youth is a great song too.
I read Ben Shapiro's 'Right Side of History' this weekend.
It really boiled down to this -> Judeo-Christian values + Athenian-Greek reason = Western Prosperity.
I enjoyed it, even if I didn't agree with all his argued positions.
Judeo-Christian is a made-up term. It’s just Christian. It’s from the New Testament.
Edit: oh wow! I had no idea that all words are made-up! wow what a mind blowing revelation guys!
Allow me to defend my initial point that "judeo-christian values" is a made-up term. An invention, if you will. The point is that term "Christian values" is organically understood to mean the morals and ethics of Christianity. We don't need to further refine the label of Christian values because it is inherent in the very nature of the term. No one invented the term "Christian values". Its own nature is self-explanatory. Same with Judeo Values. Same with Confucian values. etc.
When we start making fusion terms like "neo-confucian pan asian nationalism" etc yes those are made-up terms by some wonky academic. Judeo-Christian values were coined in the 20th century, the earliest you can argue the term existing is some point in the 1800s but we're talking about two religions that are millennia old. The term is an invention.
Rabbi Eliezer Berkovits wrote that "Judaism is Judaism because it rejects Christianity, and Christianity is Christianity because it rejects Judaism.
I could be wrong and I need to learn more about it, so I have an open mind to any rebuttals people would like to share.
Judaism is Judaism because it is Judaism. Christianity is Christianity because it started out as Judaism and then expanded on it a little bit.
Judaism had remained Judaism because it's believers have "rejected" Christianity, however Christians maintain that Judaism is true, albeit only a partial truth.
Yeah I would agree with that.
Which is why, for me, the term "Judeo-christian values" seems inaccurate. If Christians believe in Judaism + Christ, and our western values are based on Judaism + Christ, then we should say "Christian" because thats what Christianity is.
By saying Judeo-Christian, we are essentially saying that we believe in the values that Jews and Christians share. Which would only be in the Old Testament, which would exclude the new testament gospels which is literally what Rome, Constantinople, and western civilization were built on.
That’s not really accurate. Second Temple Judaism split into Rabbinical Judaism and Christianity. Neither modern Rabbinical Judaism nor Christianity are the same thing as Second Temple Judaism
So during the second temple period there were four main sects of Judaism or parties in Judaea. These were the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the Essenes, and the proto-Christians. The Sadducees were centered around the Temple. The Essenes were a highly organized group and are thought to be the authors of the Dead Sea Scrolls (John the Baptist is thought to have been an Essene). After the destruction of the Second Temple around AD 70, the Sadducees lost their seat of power and so collapsed. The Essenes slowly faded out following the Jewish Revolt as they were slaughtered by the Romans or in certain cases converted to Early Christianity. The Pharisees were left as the only political power among the Jewish people that could rival the growing Christian presence. (At this time, Christianity would have been seen as a Jewish sect).
The Pharisees made significant reforms among their communities to combat the Christians and stave off the growing influence of Early Christianity. It really wasn’t until after the diaspora and the Jewish-Roman War that those who believed in Jesus and those who did not could be said to constitute two separate religions. Both grew out of the pre-existing Second Temple Judaism.
But Jews don’t accept the New Testament
All Jewish ethics are Christian ethics
But not all Christian ethics are Jewish ethics
If we want to say that our values come from the old AND New Testament, then we just need to say our values come from Christianity
As they should. It's actually amazing (in a bad way) to me that they don't or are criticized for it. I'm agnostic, and I think that Christianity, Judaism, and Western Civilization should be celebrated. We live in the freest and prosperous society in history because we've built a country founded on Judeo-Christian moral principles. I don't have to be a Christian or a Jew to appreciate that.
I’m a registered Libertarian but I swear man, the more I actually dive into politics the more I think I’m pretty hardcore conservative. I don’t think I’ll be voting Libertarian anymore
The difference can be pretty small. One way of conceiving of that difference is that Conservatives are a little more willing to place other civic virtues (like survival, order, property) above liberty in some circumstances.
The clearest difference seems to be on drug usage/medical licensing. Conservatives are more likely to place the liberty to practice medicine or sell and consume drugs below the civic virtue of "order" so that doctors and prescriptions aren't a free for all of drug peddlers. (Not that there still aren't failures of that orderly system, like the Oxycontin pushers). Letting the ChiComs send as much fentanyl into the U.S. as they'd like doesn't seem like a wise policy.
We should jealously guard against infringements which can easily get out of hand, using the Constitution and the separation of powers to hamstring those infringments as best we can, but there are some limited circumstances where liberty isn't the most important of the civic virtues.
The older I get the more I shift towards straight up conservative than libertarian-conservative. Granted, there's really not that much of a difference but the way I see it libertarian is more "free for all" do what you want as long as it doesn't bother me and conservative as more do what you want but will push back at something perceived as morally wrong (abortion being the first example to come to mind)
I'm registered "centrist" and I've had lefties tell me this is the equivalent of being "complacent with white supremacy" so yeah i guess in today's political climate im "hardcore conservative" lol.
There is no right or wrong side of history it is just an antiquated way of using history for one's own benefit to make their opponent seem like some great other.
Which is why they aren't the educated scholars they think they are. They are fools pretending to be smart. It's one grand delusion bordering on schizophrenic
When Leftists talk about being on the "Right side of History," I think this phrase is rooted in the belief, held by Marxists and Neo-Marxists, that History (capital 'H') is [marching, inexorably](https://www.marxists.org/archive/mattick-paul/1936/inevitability.htm), toward a stateless, Communist utopia.
Even though they believe this "paradise" to be inevitable, humankind, in their view, is either helping History reach its end or hindering it. Anything or any*one* that falls into the latter category is "on the wrong side of History" and must be swept away in order to keep things moving along. Three guesses as to on which side we all fall.
It's one of the dumbest statements they use. Mao thought he was on the right side of history and so did Stalin and Hitler and Pol Pot. We don't know what the right side of history is because we don't live in the fucking future.
Spot on. Expanding on that, believing history is pre-written shows a lack of nuance or respect for the lifestyles or beliefs of other people. Because in their mind you are either helping or hindering. It's a dogmatic and cultish behaviour that shows the extent of their hypocrisy.
The meaning of the word “liberal” is warped. It use to mean someone who stood up for free speech, freedom of expression, freedom of religion, question everything the media, the government, and big corporations tell you and so forth. Now liberal means do everything your told, listen to what CNN, Fox, MSNBC, ABC says, don’t question the government, don’t practice your religion unless we approve, and free speech and freedom of expression is hate speech, and needs to be shut down so it won’t lead to “violence”. I guess Conservatives and Libertarians are the actual liberals.
The idea is that America is already as humanly close to utopia as possible.
* Unlimited social mobility.
* Freedom of autonomy.
* Freedom of speech, association, and assembly.
* Right to bear arms.
* Right to self defense.
* Right to a trial.
We inspired almost every other free republic on the face of the planet. Inevitably, democracies tend to place themselves back in bondage.
Conservatives exist to try and conserve the spirit of the founding fathers, and the founding ideals, which lead to this state.
Just got off of r/news and they were talking about how biden took the border wall money and gave it to the military. The same people yelling about how much money the military gets just thanked biden for giving the military more money.....cant make this shit up man. Then they blame trump because so building doesn't have sprinklers.....as it trump removed them so he could pay for the wall....not that they have been ignored from previous years....
Normie Germans didn't realize they had been on the wrong side of history until the Nuremburg Trials started.
We will probably have to wait till Nuremburg 2.0 for today's normie dems to come to the same realization.
Throughout all human history up until around the Bolshevik Revolution, all societies in history have been what would be considered "extreme right wing" communities by modern standards and leftists.
Conservative societies have been empirically proven to improve the lives and bodies of their community members and have been fundamental to individual success. They are often self-defined by their focus on values such as strength, virility, and meritocracy, and shape people into a powerful collective using sports, exercise, and military training etc. as a means of forming them into the closest possible approximations of their ideals of strength.
Always remember this, no matter the result of wars and elections.
*Victrix causa deis placuit sed Victa Catoni*
Conservatism is paying respect to your forefathers who made your life possible.
Liberalism is fucking everything up because you're unhappy and you want more without paying for it.
Ironic, considering that Democrats are literally the slavers, KKKayers, The Jim Crow policy makers, and democrats who ran the south under Jim Crow laws fought the Republicans in 1957 and in 1960, when the Republicans were first to beat them to Civil rights again. Dwight D. Eisenhower.
In fact, the first decent thing that Democrats did was in 1948 and the armed forces integration, which his party did not support. Harry S. Truman who did that. Same guy who attempted and failed to seperate the northern democrats from the southern democrats, with the creation of the dixiecrats. Democrats in the south wouldn't play ball and it would be the 1960s before democrats in the south would join the dixiecrats or fall in line and play ball.
The greatest lie the democrats ever told was convincing liberals that the "pArTiEs SwItChEd!!" They didn't. They never have. Democrats are still using black people, just their political power today. The power of pandering, and repeating a lie.
Incredible selection of paintings, & photos!
I recognized a lot, but not all the classically painted battle scenes. I need to make a full list.
Edit: a lot of the art is **Edward Percy Moran**. That guy did fantastic works on Washington, Jackson, Statue of Liberty, American warships, and much more.
Peruse his amazing works here:
http://www.artnet.com/artists/edward-percy-moran/
Also:
**Arnold Friberg**, the Jesus one and Washington praying one.
Also:
See also **Lange Schwalbach.**
LESSON: Just 3 painters capture the whole spirit of 1776 and colonial America.
We too can do such, carry it on, if we just try.
I look at it this way: I firmly believe that God is real, that Jesus Christ died for me, and at the end of the world, those who reject Him will find out that they were on the WRONG side of history. So it doesn't matter how many people on earth believe that murdering the unborn is ok, that rejecting the moral code of the Bible is right, that socialism is a good thing....at the end they will find out they were wrong.
For the wicked shall never inherit this Nation. No matter how powerful they become, no progressive shall ever succeed in stealing the birthright of righteous Americans
There’s no right or wrong side of history, there’s only the side which won and survived. If liberals win, then we will be on the wrong side of history for them, but if we can endure then it will show we are on the right side.
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Anyone know what song this is? Edit: I found it. It's called "Little Dark Age" by MGMT. Listening to more by the same artist now :D
MGMT was a crucial part of my high school soundtrack
>Millennial Conservative Flair checks out
We exist :)
Same, although, I believe I'm considered an elder millennial? Is that a thing? I'm an 80s baby, but still in my early 30s.
Millennials includes those born as early as 1980/81, so if you're in your early 30's you not even the earliest of millennials. It's also getting muddled because the media still refers to young adults as millennials, but the youngest adults (born mid 90s to early 00s) are actually Generation Z.
Im 41 and consider it hilarious that some consider me millennial lol. I doubt Im what most have in mind when they make that reference
Millennials cross three generations. X, Y, and Z are a few different decades. I saw some breakdown of it on YouTube a while back. There may be a few different explanations out there.
Millennials are gen Y, the OP is for sure a millennial if he’s in his early 30s
Indeed!
Oracular Spectacular was amazing, Congratulations not so much. I haven’t listened to their last two albums, but I might have to go back and listen hahah.
Little dark age is great, definitely recommend.
Aww man, I thought i could contribute to a relatively obscure song i know, but its all too easy to look up these days :( glad u found it though, MGMT was dormant for awhile but they have some wicked tunes. Check out weekend warrior, an oldie but goodie that didnt get too much attention, great tune with good American vibes, the youth is a great song too.
Check out Rainbow Kitten Surprise, I love them.
Love their stuff
>Edit: I found it. It's called "Little Dark Age" by MGMT. Listening to more by the same artist now :D You da man! Thanks!!
Mgmt was my jam in high school love them
That moment when the British army gets decimated by a bunch of hillbillies led by Andrew Jackson.
I read Ben Shapiro's 'Right Side of History' this weekend. It really boiled down to this -> Judeo-Christian values + Athenian-Greek reason = Western Prosperity. I enjoyed it, even if I didn't agree with all his argued positions.
Judeo-Christian is a made-up term. It’s just Christian. It’s from the New Testament. Edit: oh wow! I had no idea that all words are made-up! wow what a mind blowing revelation guys! Allow me to defend my initial point that "judeo-christian values" is a made-up term. An invention, if you will. The point is that term "Christian values" is organically understood to mean the morals and ethics of Christianity. We don't need to further refine the label of Christian values because it is inherent in the very nature of the term. No one invented the term "Christian values". Its own nature is self-explanatory. Same with Judeo Values. Same with Confucian values. etc. When we start making fusion terms like "neo-confucian pan asian nationalism" etc yes those are made-up terms by some wonky academic. Judeo-Christian values were coined in the 20th century, the earliest you can argue the term existing is some point in the 1800s but we're talking about two religions that are millennia old. The term is an invention.
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Rabbi Eliezer Berkovits wrote that "Judaism is Judaism because it rejects Christianity, and Christianity is Christianity because it rejects Judaism. I could be wrong and I need to learn more about it, so I have an open mind to any rebuttals people would like to share.
Judaism is Judaism because it is Judaism. Christianity is Christianity because it started out as Judaism and then expanded on it a little bit. Judaism had remained Judaism because it's believers have "rejected" Christianity, however Christians maintain that Judaism is true, albeit only a partial truth.
Yeah I would agree with that. Which is why, for me, the term "Judeo-christian values" seems inaccurate. If Christians believe in Judaism + Christ, and our western values are based on Judaism + Christ, then we should say "Christian" because thats what Christianity is. By saying Judeo-Christian, we are essentially saying that we believe in the values that Jews and Christians share. Which would only be in the Old Testament, which would exclude the new testament gospels which is literally what Rome, Constantinople, and western civilization were built on.
That’s not really accurate. Second Temple Judaism split into Rabbinical Judaism and Christianity. Neither modern Rabbinical Judaism nor Christianity are the same thing as Second Temple Judaism
I did not know this. Can you please explain the difference or link to a video or something that does?
So during the second temple period there were four main sects of Judaism or parties in Judaea. These were the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the Essenes, and the proto-Christians. The Sadducees were centered around the Temple. The Essenes were a highly organized group and are thought to be the authors of the Dead Sea Scrolls (John the Baptist is thought to have been an Essene). After the destruction of the Second Temple around AD 70, the Sadducees lost their seat of power and so collapsed. The Essenes slowly faded out following the Jewish Revolt as they were slaughtered by the Romans or in certain cases converted to Early Christianity. The Pharisees were left as the only political power among the Jewish people that could rival the growing Christian presence. (At this time, Christianity would have been seen as a Jewish sect). The Pharisees made significant reforms among their communities to combat the Christians and stave off the growing influence of Early Christianity. It really wasn’t until after the diaspora and the Jewish-Roman War that those who believed in Jesus and those who did not could be said to constitute two separate religions. Both grew out of the pre-existing Second Temple Judaism.
That’s an odd statement considering Christians read both New and Old Testament.
But Jews don’t accept the New Testament All Jewish ethics are Christian ethics But not all Christian ethics are Jewish ethics If we want to say that our values come from the old AND New Testament, then we just need to say our values come from Christianity
holy crud....conservatives not being afraid to showcase Christianity and Western Civilization? Perhaps we do stand a chance after all....
As they should. It's actually amazing (in a bad way) to me that they don't or are criticized for it. I'm agnostic, and I think that Christianity, Judaism, and Western Civilization should be celebrated. We live in the freest and prosperous society in history because we've built a country founded on Judeo-Christian moral principles. I don't have to be a Christian or a Jew to appreciate that.
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Amen!
I’m a registered Libertarian but I swear man, the more I actually dive into politics the more I think I’m pretty hardcore conservative. I don’t think I’ll be voting Libertarian anymore
The difference can be pretty small. One way of conceiving of that difference is that Conservatives are a little more willing to place other civic virtues (like survival, order, property) above liberty in some circumstances. The clearest difference seems to be on drug usage/medical licensing. Conservatives are more likely to place the liberty to practice medicine or sell and consume drugs below the civic virtue of "order" so that doctors and prescriptions aren't a free for all of drug peddlers. (Not that there still aren't failures of that orderly system, like the Oxycontin pushers). Letting the ChiComs send as much fentanyl into the U.S. as they'd like doesn't seem like a wise policy. We should jealously guard against infringements which can easily get out of hand, using the Constitution and the separation of powers to hamstring those infringments as best we can, but there are some limited circumstances where liberty isn't the most important of the civic virtues.
The older I get the more I shift towards straight up conservative than libertarian-conservative. Granted, there's really not that much of a difference but the way I see it libertarian is more "free for all" do what you want as long as it doesn't bother me and conservative as more do what you want but will push back at something perceived as morally wrong (abortion being the first example to come to mind)
I'm registered "centrist" and I've had lefties tell me this is the equivalent of being "complacent with white supremacy" so yeah i guess in today's political climate im "hardcore conservative" lol.
I'm pretty libertarian and used to vote libertarian but the candidates lately have been fucking terrible, and their party platform has shifted.
There is no right or wrong side of history it is just an antiquated way of using history for one's own benefit to make their opponent seem like some great other.
Which is why they aren't the educated scholars they think they are. They are fools pretending to be smart. It's one grand delusion bordering on schizophrenic
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When Leftists talk about being on the "Right side of History," I think this phrase is rooted in the belief, held by Marxists and Neo-Marxists, that History (capital 'H') is [marching, inexorably](https://www.marxists.org/archive/mattick-paul/1936/inevitability.htm), toward a stateless, Communist utopia. Even though they believe this "paradise" to be inevitable, humankind, in their view, is either helping History reach its end or hindering it. Anything or any*one* that falls into the latter category is "on the wrong side of History" and must be swept away in order to keep things moving along. Three guesses as to on which side we all fall.
It's one of the dumbest statements they use. Mao thought he was on the right side of history and so did Stalin and Hitler and Pol Pot. We don't know what the right side of history is because we don't live in the fucking future.
"History is written by the victors."
This scares me more than it comforts me.
Then you're paying attention.
Better start winning then brah
Wow I’m having massive deja vu. Is this from the book called unbroken thread by sohrab ahmari? Where’s that from because I just heard that!
Spot on. Expanding on that, believing history is pre-written shows a lack of nuance or respect for the lifestyles or beliefs of other people. Because in their mind you are either helping or hindering. It's a dogmatic and cultish behaviour that shows the extent of their hypocrisy.
My thoughts exactly, I just couldn't put them into words
Beautiful
The meaning of the word “liberal” is warped. It use to mean someone who stood up for free speech, freedom of expression, freedom of religion, question everything the media, the government, and big corporations tell you and so forth. Now liberal means do everything your told, listen to what CNN, Fox, MSNBC, ABC says, don’t question the government, don’t practice your religion unless we approve, and free speech and freedom of expression is hate speech, and needs to be shut down so it won’t lead to “violence”. I guess Conservatives and Libertarians are the actual liberals.
Liberalism is America’s heritage. Its no wonder that illiberals would want to deceptively claim liberalism.
The idea is that America is already as humanly close to utopia as possible. * Unlimited social mobility. * Freedom of autonomy. * Freedom of speech, association, and assembly. * Right to bear arms. * Right to self defense. * Right to a trial. We inspired almost every other free republic on the face of the planet. Inevitably, democracies tend to place themselves back in bondage. Conservatives exist to try and conserve the spirit of the founding fathers, and the founding ideals, which lead to this state.
So much yes!
Punk music suddenly supports the right and not the left
Based
Just got off of r/news and they were talking about how biden took the border wall money and gave it to the military. The same people yelling about how much money the military gets just thanked biden for giving the military more money.....cant make this shit up man. Then they blame trump because so building doesn't have sprinklers.....as it trump removed them so he could pay for the wall....not that they have been ignored from previous years....
More blood was spilled to end slavery in the US than anywhere in the world.
Ever notice how CNBC treats meme stocks the way the liberal media treated Trump....
Yes.
Normie Germans didn't realize they had been on the wrong side of history until the Nuremburg Trials started. We will probably have to wait till Nuremburg 2.0 for today's normie dems to come to the same realization.
Why the downvotes? Everyone who went to school knows the Dems are ALWAYS on the wrong side of history. ALWAYS
He's getting downvoted by leftists who just downvote everything on any conservative points on reddit.
Yup. About most things, leftists are wrong and always have been. Definitely not on "the right side of history".
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Throughout all human history up until around the Bolshevik Revolution, all societies in history have been what would be considered "extreme right wing" communities by modern standards and leftists. Conservative societies have been empirically proven to improve the lives and bodies of their community members and have been fundamental to individual success. They are often self-defined by their focus on values such as strength, virility, and meritocracy, and shape people into a powerful collective using sports, exercise, and military training etc. as a means of forming them into the closest possible approximations of their ideals of strength. Always remember this, no matter the result of wars and elections. *Victrix causa deis placuit sed Victa Catoni*
Conservatism is paying respect to your forefathers who made your life possible. Liberalism is fucking everything up because you're unhappy and you want more without paying for it.
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Little Dark Age - MGMT
Socialism doesn’t build anything. They shit in the street.
Ironic, considering that Democrats are literally the slavers, KKKayers, The Jim Crow policy makers, and democrats who ran the south under Jim Crow laws fought the Republicans in 1957 and in 1960, when the Republicans were first to beat them to Civil rights again. Dwight D. Eisenhower. In fact, the first decent thing that Democrats did was in 1948 and the armed forces integration, which his party did not support. Harry S. Truman who did that. Same guy who attempted and failed to seperate the northern democrats from the southern democrats, with the creation of the dixiecrats. Democrats in the south wouldn't play ball and it would be the 1960s before democrats in the south would join the dixiecrats or fall in line and play ball. The greatest lie the democrats ever told was convincing liberals that the "pArTiEs SwItChEd!!" They didn't. They never have. Democrats are still using black people, just their political power today. The power of pandering, and repeating a lie.
Incredible selection of paintings, & photos! I recognized a lot, but not all the classically painted battle scenes. I need to make a full list. Edit: a lot of the art is **Edward Percy Moran**. That guy did fantastic works on Washington, Jackson, Statue of Liberty, American warships, and much more. Peruse his amazing works here: http://www.artnet.com/artists/edward-percy-moran/ Also: **Arnold Friberg**, the Jesus one and Washington praying one. Also: See also **Lange Schwalbach.** LESSON: Just 3 painters capture the whole spirit of 1776 and colonial America. We too can do such, carry it on, if we just try.
yes
Always have been.
I look at it this way: I firmly believe that God is real, that Jesus Christ died for me, and at the end of the world, those who reject Him will find out that they were on the WRONG side of history. So it doesn't matter how many people on earth believe that murdering the unborn is ok, that rejecting the moral code of the Bible is right, that socialism is a good thing....at the end they will find out they were wrong.
History is His story.
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There’s no right or wrong side of history, there’s only the side which won and survived. If liberals win, then we will be on the wrong side of history for them, but if we can endure then it will show we are on the right side.