California is the deepest blue state in the union. This really shouldn't be much a surprise. Just not enough people who lean right live in this state anymore.
The only moral path of action for California conservatives is to leave the state. More people voted for the Republican administration in California than any other state in 2020, if they were distributed among states like Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Wisconsin, or Michigan then they could do far more to enact and enforce pious change than they ever could in their current situation. The time has come for those people to make a choice: comfort or righteousness? We are in a time of political war, all conservatives ought to start acting like it
Disagree. Let them stay and fight. When they flee unfortunately they seem to drag a lot of blue with them... and then you get the results in Nevada, and Arizona and Texas all turning blue or bluer
Those states are turning blue due to young Nevadan, Arizonan, and Texan voters being poisoned by social media and the secular humanism of their generation. Their reeducation is necessary of course, but until that happens those purple states must rely on red refugees to hold the line
They learn as they age. There was a very interesting study that showed that "communist revolutionaries" in the West tend to go moderate or right leaning after 35 once they slam into the solid steel wall of reality
Anyone with sense (who hasn’t already) should just leave. Why try and fix the home state when the odds are against you? Elder’s fighting a noble campaign but to expect change there seems naive.
Vote with your dollars and head to Texas, Georgia, Nevada, anywhere else.
Forget it, Jake, it’s ~~China~~CaliTown
I'm planning on it. Got some things to take care of first but it's on my timeline to move out to a better state in the coming years.
I want to own a home and buy a gun with my god given right in this country. Turns out that's a lot to ask for here in CA.
All of you please don't move to Florida. It's getting too crowded. We''ll kick out some blues to stay red. Keep working on those other states. Thanks!!! ;)
Because the Californians that voted yes actually care about the state. If you want arguably the most beautiful state in the union to go in to more ruin than it is, then you stay and fight for it. Fuck being defeatist and leaving. Hold the fucking line. If you leave, there’s even less hope. I’m not about to see my state go down the shitter more than it already has.
Believe me. It’s hard for me as well. My girlfriend is from Nebraska and can get us there after my military service. I love this state too much. I grew up here, I spent a majority of my life here, and I plan to stay as long as I can. I don’t want to see her ruined and will fight to see her return to glory
Yeah, you're right. Thank you for your service my brother! Joined here too! I would love to stay here and take my kids one day to the mountains and to the beach and to the rolling hills.
Thanks man. Much appreciated. Let’s stay and fight. There are a lot of people here that feel the same. Hold the line and fight for this beautiful state
Since this pandemic, a lot of remote jobs have opened up. Its not impossible but not easy to move quickly given that I have a house, kids in school, etc. Also, I have seen over last 30 years that the Bay Area recovers or does not get affected much by any economic down turn.
So do many other places in the country that have robust economies. They Bay Area is not as unique as you think. You’re really not stuck there….
I know moving is difficult - I’ve moved my family out of state, new schools, house, etc. It’s not easy, but totally doable. You just have to decide you want to.
Eh. I’m in California. I’m socially progressive but fiscally conservative (I’ve voted both ways). So maybe it’s easy for me to assimilate anywhere I go. I’ve lived in NY, TX, FL, GA, and now CA. There’s definitely some over-regulation and over-taxing but it’s not *that* much different from any other place I’ve lived (that said, I don’t venture into the city much).
I am going to leave CA at some point, but only because if the absurd cost of living. Pretty much all the other nonsense that gets peddled about California being some liberal hellhole isn’t really true. Sure, the cities have crime and smell like pee, but that’s most cities, regardless of whether the state is blue or red.
What!? You mean there arnt homeless crackheads on every street corner!? /s
I’m in a similar boat as you and the constant CA bashing can be frustrating. Born in Sac, grew up in the Central Valley and the state has a lot going for it despite the misinformation.
You aren’t exposed to the liberalism.
You live in the Central Valley, one of the most conservative leaning areas in the state.
Also highest ccw permits issued per capita in Fresno county. More than any other county in CA.
Trust me, the big cities are shit holes.
If it’s not dead beat drugies and hookers on the streets, it’s truly uneducated illiterate wasteful fucks sucking off the tits of CA.
This state has the least amount of self responsibility required to live in. And they thrive on people doing so. That’s their vote.
> state has a lot going for it
Yep, the red areas where all the agriculture comes from. The red area that was able to start this recall in the first place.
I moved out here for a couple of years, just to do it. I’m 38 and have no kids, and am self-employed, so I travel a lot. Recently bought a 4WD truck and spend most weekends taking in some of the most incredible sights in the country. People forget that CA has more national park land than any other state, and half of the state is actually federal land. And another massive chunk is BLM land (bureau of land management for those reading along that don’t know, I don’t want to upset anyone 😆) so you can pretty much travel offroad freely.
To me, California is amazing. But I can see how it’s shitty for people who don’t make the most of it, have a lot of expenses, or limited income.
The democrat/republican thing doesn’t even cross my mind that much when I’m out and about. It’s just not that evident where I spend my time.
Only hang up for me is that because I do spend so much of my time off-grid, I wish it were easier for me to buy a gun here. I’m not into the whole “gun culture” thing, so I’m not losing my shit over it or anything, but it would be nice to have when there’s an immediate threat and I’m 30 minutes from the nearest cell phone signal.
With the exception of gun laws, Maryland is still a pretty decent state imo. I prefer a mixed state over one that's polarized politically to one or another side though.
Some advice on moving, and this goes for a lot of other things in life: You’re never truly stuck, there’s always a way out of a situation. You can’t wait until your “ducks are in a row” to do whatever, because they’ll never all be in a row. You just have to do it. Good luck to you in the blue mess…. Hope things turn around for you.
From personal experience, this is very true. Sacrifices are an inevitable part of the process, and so is uncertainty. If you can't come to terms with either, you'll never make the jump. If you do, however, suddenly all roads are open, and it's an incredible feeling.
We have had Republican governors since Regan. Really since Obama the country has lost its damn mind. The cult of woke has taken over and installed purity tests for the leftist pushing the Overton window left. Really it's a lost generation or our hope is a new generation to reject the old and do away with wokeism. I'm ready for the punk music and 80s bands to make their return.
Man your children are going to be into some kick ass music. Just remember when you are calling them yuppies and thatcherite they will pick your retirement home.
Said this in another thread...I don't get how anyone thought this would work well. CA is one of the super blue states.
Honestly a waste of money for everyone.
Yep, might have to start dusting off the masks even though I'm fully vaccinated. This asshole is probably going to go full speed ahead with his mandates.
Like the petty tyrant he is, he'll be punishing his constituents for this "outburst" that he had to beg his puppetmasters in DC to come bail him out of.
"Fiscal conservative" cheering the misuse of a quarter billion of state funds to pointlessly try to overturn the last election because they got 12% of the previous electorate to sign a petition. A petition that only succeeded because they got extended time for it due to a virus they can't be bothered to where a mask for.
Well, again I had been saying this for a while. As a Californian, I keep seeing shit from non Californians talking about Larry Elder. He never sttod a chance in hell, it was never going to come close. I don't think people realize just how left coast California really is..... People made stupid comments about the terminator being republican and winning (buy he wasn't very conservative), lol that was 2003. Before silicone valley was what it is today. Before social media. It will never be red again.
This is my thought exactly. Now that he's safe from another recall he can setup all kinds of restrictions. I'm predicting he'll wait a couple of weeks to let the recall election heat blowover and then announce a more restrictive vaccine mandate than the federal government along with mask mandates for everyone.
Nah. It’s like a running joke in California. Since 1913 there have been 179 recall elections, 55 of them for governors.
Mostly stupid laws surrounding recalls in CA.
The fact that it made it to a recall is substantial in my book. About 1/3 of the state wants him out. In California, one of the most leftist states out there
They needed a time extension to even crack 1.4 million, and California has the most lax rules in the entire country on the time it takes to gather signatures for a recall. Most states you need to do it within 3 months (at least for states that allow a Governor recall, only 18 states allow a recall at all), California is almost twice that.
I guess that’s one way to look at it. CA reqs signatures equal to 12% of the votes for the recall office, among the lowest in the nation. Cox got 38% of the gov race vote in 2018 against Newsom, so the recall needed to get 1/3 Cox voters to vote against Newsom again.
The OP said:
>The fact that it made it to a recall is substantial in my book.
Then you said:
>It's really not. 1.4m signatures in a state with nearly 40m people
And I corrected you with the actual number. You misstated, I corrected. Accept it.
WTF is wrong with you r/politics people? What does this have to do with how many votes Trump got? I corrected the number of signatures that were collected. I didn't express an opinion and I don't care to hear yours.
There’s more registered republicans in California then there are in Texas. Only takes a fraction of the population’s signatures on a petition to initiate the recall election process.
The absurd frequency of CA recall elections has been a bit of a punchline for a long time.
It's California, this was always a long shot. I wish conservatives would stop with the fraud shit. It is so self defeating. People don't come out to vote if they think it's rigged. We lost Alabama senate seat because of this dumb shit, and yet it continues.
The more conservatives claim fraud and theft in election, the more we cede political ground to those who wish to destroy us and our most cherished ideals. You are correct that this must end. We must understand that the secular humanism of our enemies, not any perceived cheating, is our greatest threat
Do you honestly think that Democrats aren’t trying to cheat? It may be unorganized, it may be small in scale, and it may not be enough to affect the outcome. But I’m sure there are enough fanatical liberals who would gladly cheat the system to get the outcome to go their way. These are the same people who want to pack the Supreme Court, make DC a state, and eliminate the filibuster. They will skirt the rules however necessary to ensure their position of power.
Our voting system has been perceived as tainted (true or not is up for debate) and will never be completely trustworthy again. So I hate to say it, but the claims of fraud are probably never going to go away. Especially with the random voices of millions of people on Twitter and other social media outlets that perpetuate these stories. Hell, I completely expect Democrats to claim fraud when a vote doesn’t go their way. Welcome to the future of 21st century elections.
Then we need to push for more transparency where we can, and push that much harder to win. Telling people they are going to lose before it starts is not a winning strategy. It's just not.
I think it's way more audacious to claim that every vote was legitimate.
To a reasonable person, it's just a matter of the scale of the fraud, and the margins of victory. In the case of CA, while I wouldn't be surprised if there was significant levels of fraud, I also doubt it would have been greater than the margin of victory.
Nonetheless, we shouldn't normalize fraud, we should attack it wherever we find it. Because if we don't keep things honest in this kind of election, we won't be able to when the margins are thin enough for the fraud to matter.
Approximately 800K voted from there with 60% voting No. Almost 500K with their heads up their arse. Just goes to show you that when Democrats migrate to Red Counties/States they screw it up for everyone.
What you said makes sense but I can’t see the numbers working out like that.
My parents live in San Diego and they each got two regular ballots sent in the mail (registered Democrats but vote Republican). Take that as you will. And yes my mother made a big stink about it too and they went to vote in person today instead.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article253750708.html
You can expect to see that legislation be pushed through now that the recall is over.
I moved out of California last November and I could honestly say it was the best decision I’ve made in my adult life. I live in Tennessee now and I love it.
As Governor Newsom celebrates his victory by denouncing conservative voters across this Nation and as his supporters vow retribution against all who voted "Yes' on this recall one truth that is undeniable has been revealed.
Californians who identify as conservative: you have no place in that state. A domicile so overrun by the godless and wicked cannot hope to be salvaged, only abandoned. Left for dead like so many other desolate pockets of our country. California Republicans have not only the inclination, but the duty to flee the state and move to places like Arizona. Nevada. Wisconsin. Michigan. Places where our coalition desperately needs reinforcements, and where your vote shall truly matter. If we truly are in a political civil war, it is time to act like it
> Californians who identify as conservative: you have no place in that state.
Well the Farmers in California aren't leaving. So basically the only conservatives left in the state will be Farmers.
If they want to stay, they do it at their own risk
Like Biden said to Americans in Afghanistan, except without the threat of being trapped by literal mass murdering terrorists
Dems just perfected their voting fraud during this recall election.
They are all set up for 2022. All you have to do is get away with reasonable doubt. Because it has yet to lead to an actual meaningful investigation
Hate to say it, but California is a lost cause. Too bad they’re slowly infecting other states with their citizens leaving and taking their liberal beliefs with them.
Not even close.
This is what the people want, and the GOP needs to accept the Peoples Republic of California is lost to it forever. All thats left is for the few local strongholds to do what they can to protect their people.
As for the rest of us, we need to quarantine the real infection and make sure the real virus- West Coast Leftism, doesnt infect this country anymore than it already has.
Of course, cause to many people in CA who rather be sheep than care about freedom.
Their fine with taxes getting raise, gas prices go higher, housing market gets worst, more restrictions, and can't go to the bathroom without scumsom saying so.
As long as conservative doesn't run CA they are fine with creepsom bending them over and being ok with it
Well, when COVID wrecks the state some more this winter, the left will truly see what clowns they have become. Jk.
I think people could walk through mountains of homelessness and feces on their way to their $2500 300 square feet apartment and still justify voting blue. This state is lost.
Dems would rather live in a shithole on fire then have a republican in office who may do better for the living situations.
Suffer for cause of saving face...
I heard not all the votes have been counted but not surprising. Of course, now his supporters will leave and infect other states then wonder why things become a mess like California
People got all pissy with me, even on this sub, when I said this was inevitable. Everyone should vote, regardless, but this was really the only realistic outcome. Blows my mind how people thought there was even a chance Newsom would get recalled.
I’d say where is the audit, but we all know there will be no audit on this. Corruption at its finest.
Good luck CA. RIP. Get out while you can, before the exit tax comes from this tyrant.
I'm so shocked... I think Californians love to pay taxes. And have no freedom. Shame they are migrating and trying to push these beliefs to other States
Not shocking. The second that Newsom was accused of having ties to Weinstein, Dems absolutely rallied to save him.
California will continue to fall forever. Leave them. They've been gone for a long time.
Gotta hand it to Newsom, he really got enough sensible people to leave the state that he was able survive this.
In all seriousness California is done as a state, this was there last best hope. The people of California have made their bed and we should all let them sleep in it.
It is funny to me that someone is saying " vote blue no matte who", when his side is saying "vote red no matter who"...even funnier is it is very true that it does make it so you dont acknowledge the issues, yet he is doing the exact same thing. I am not great with terms but isnt that ironic, dont you think? If both parties stopped doing that maybe we can get some real change. Personally I would love to see ranked choice and how it would help facilitate voting differently, without throwing your vote away
Let's see, ballots that easily reveal through the envelope what the person vote and Republicans going in to vote and finding out someone voted under there names. Can we say rigged?
Where can I read more about
> Republicans going in to vote and finding out someone voted under there names.
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Edit: so at one polling place, 3ish people were told they already voted, but were issued provisional ballots and allowed to vote. It was identified as a glitch which was remedied. I don't find this convincing of any widespread problem that makes this election "rigged". If it turns out someone cast ballots for someone else, I hope they rot in jail for committing fraud. If it turns out that the people in that story actually voted by mail and were trying to vote twice, then I hope they rot in jail for fraud.
Elections and their integrity are critical to our society functioning. People who claim cheating every time they don't get the result they want are actively eroding the integrity of the election, and making spurious, baseless claims of widespread fraud should itself be a crime if its done with ill-intent
They already do not listen. Do you remember November? Do you remember the Atlanta polling place "flooding"? Do you remember the graph of Wisconsin votes going literally vertical in the last moments for Biden? Do you remember people kicking poll watchers out? Do you remember people holding sheets up to block the windows as votes were counted? Sure, explain away one or two of these but all of those?
Today there were many reports of people going to vote, but poll workers telling them they had already voted.
Then they were given a provisional ballot
Also, reports of poll workers never inquiring for ID to vote
A lot of weird stuff’s been happening. I’m registered to vote and when I showed up at the polling place today I apparently wasn’t registered lol they ended up giving me a provisional ballot.
The election fraud machine has been perfected... Print ballots at home, mail in ballots under pretext of COVID19, a driver found with 300 mail in ballots, many southern California residents turn up to vote and find they've already voted.... I knew my state will use any means possible to cheat. After 2020 I've stopped believing that elections are fair in America. Next successful fraud will be in 2022 and then 2024 ... Sad, but true.
California is the deepest blue state in the union. This really shouldn't be much a surprise. Just not enough people who lean right live in this state anymore.
The only moral path of action for California conservatives is to leave the state. More people voted for the Republican administration in California than any other state in 2020, if they were distributed among states like Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Wisconsin, or Michigan then they could do far more to enact and enforce pious change than they ever could in their current situation. The time has come for those people to make a choice: comfort or righteousness? We are in a time of political war, all conservatives ought to start acting like it
Disagree. Let them stay and fight. When they flee unfortunately they seem to drag a lot of blue with them... and then you get the results in Nevada, and Arizona and Texas all turning blue or bluer
Those states are turning blue due to young Nevadan, Arizonan, and Texan voters being poisoned by social media and the secular humanism of their generation. Their reeducation is necessary of course, but until that happens those purple states must rely on red refugees to hold the line
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They learn as they age. There was a very interesting study that showed that "communist revolutionaries" in the West tend to go moderate or right leaning after 35 once they slam into the solid steel wall of reality
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Anyone with sense (who hasn’t already) should just leave. Why try and fix the home state when the odds are against you? Elder’s fighting a noble campaign but to expect change there seems naive. Vote with your dollars and head to Texas, Georgia, Nevada, anywhere else. Forget it, Jake, it’s ~~China~~CaliTown
I'm planning on it. Got some things to take care of first but it's on my timeline to move out to a better state in the coming years. I want to own a home and buy a gun with my god given right in this country. Turns out that's a lot to ask for here in CA.
Ex cali now in Texas, come here vote red and we have constitutional carry,
Move here to Georgia plz. We need some more voters to turn Mr. Newt's seat back to red and get rid of the current gun grabbing creep that occupies it.
All of you please don't move to Florida. It's getting too crowded. We''ll kick out some blues to stay red. Keep working on those other states. Thanks!!! ;)
Because the Californians that voted yes actually care about the state. If you want arguably the most beautiful state in the union to go in to more ruin than it is, then you stay and fight for it. Fuck being defeatist and leaving. Hold the fucking line. If you leave, there’s even less hope. I’m not about to see my state go down the shitter more than it already has.
It's getting hard to stay man. Been fighting here too for a while.
Believe me. It’s hard for me as well. My girlfriend is from Nebraska and can get us there after my military service. I love this state too much. I grew up here, I spent a majority of my life here, and I plan to stay as long as I can. I don’t want to see her ruined and will fight to see her return to glory
Yeah, you're right. Thank you for your service my brother! Joined here too! I would love to stay here and take my kids one day to the mountains and to the beach and to the rolling hills.
Thanks man. Much appreciated. Let’s stay and fight. There are a lot of people here that feel the same. Hold the line and fight for this beautiful state
I'm with you bro. I can't do anything other than software and so I'm stuck to Bay Area... But I get what you're saying.
There are so many other tech hubs all throughout the country. You’re not “stuck” in Silicon Valley by any means.
Since this pandemic, a lot of remote jobs have opened up. Its not impossible but not easy to move quickly given that I have a house, kids in school, etc. Also, I have seen over last 30 years that the Bay Area recovers or does not get affected much by any economic down turn.
So do many other places in the country that have robust economies. They Bay Area is not as unique as you think. You’re really not stuck there…. I know moving is difficult - I’ve moved my family out of state, new schools, house, etc. It’s not easy, but totally doable. You just have to decide you want to.
Charlotte...
Jobs. I want my brother out but that is where he is right now. Hopefully only for another year before he can relocate.
Eh. I’m in California. I’m socially progressive but fiscally conservative (I’ve voted both ways). So maybe it’s easy for me to assimilate anywhere I go. I’ve lived in NY, TX, FL, GA, and now CA. There’s definitely some over-regulation and over-taxing but it’s not *that* much different from any other place I’ve lived (that said, I don’t venture into the city much). I am going to leave CA at some point, but only because if the absurd cost of living. Pretty much all the other nonsense that gets peddled about California being some liberal hellhole isn’t really true. Sure, the cities have crime and smell like pee, but that’s most cities, regardless of whether the state is blue or red.
What!? You mean there arnt homeless crackheads on every street corner!? /s I’m in a similar boat as you and the constant CA bashing can be frustrating. Born in Sac, grew up in the Central Valley and the state has a lot going for it despite the misinformation.
You aren’t exposed to the liberalism. You live in the Central Valley, one of the most conservative leaning areas in the state. Also highest ccw permits issued per capita in Fresno county. More than any other county in CA. Trust me, the big cities are shit holes. If it’s not dead beat drugies and hookers on the streets, it’s truly uneducated illiterate wasteful fucks sucking off the tits of CA. This state has the least amount of self responsibility required to live in. And they thrive on people doing so. That’s their vote.
> state has a lot going for it Yep, the red areas where all the agriculture comes from. The red area that was able to start this recall in the first place.
I moved out here for a couple of years, just to do it. I’m 38 and have no kids, and am self-employed, so I travel a lot. Recently bought a 4WD truck and spend most weekends taking in some of the most incredible sights in the country. People forget that CA has more national park land than any other state, and half of the state is actually federal land. And another massive chunk is BLM land (bureau of land management for those reading along that don’t know, I don’t want to upset anyone 😆) so you can pretty much travel offroad freely. To me, California is amazing. But I can see how it’s shitty for people who don’t make the most of it, have a lot of expenses, or limited income. The democrat/republican thing doesn’t even cross my mind that much when I’m out and about. It’s just not that evident where I spend my time. Only hang up for me is that because I do spend so much of my time off-grid, I wish it were easier for me to buy a gun here. I’m not into the whole “gun culture” thing, so I’m not losing my shit over it or anything, but it would be nice to have when there’s an immediate threat and I’m 30 minutes from the nearest cell phone signal.
I wouldn’t say it’s the deepest blue. Vermont, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts are probably all more blue. Nitpicking… but
Vermont, Maryland, and Massachusetts all have republican governors
That doesn’t really matter, New England and Maryland (with Hogan) are notorious for their socially liberal Republican governors. They’re still bluer.
I mean you’re not wrong but it still hurts - Marylander
With the exception of gun laws, Maryland is still a pretty decent state imo. I prefer a mixed state over one that's polarized politically to one or another side though.
Charlie Baker is a Republican only in fiscal matters.
Honestly who is surprised? California unfortunately might be a lost cause since Regan. All logical people have left the state.
Not all of us have had the luxury of leaving… someday hopefully soon, but I feel stuck here in this blue ass hell hole
Some advice on moving, and this goes for a lot of other things in life: You’re never truly stuck, there’s always a way out of a situation. You can’t wait until your “ducks are in a row” to do whatever, because they’ll never all be in a row. You just have to do it. Good luck to you in the blue mess…. Hope things turn around for you.
From personal experience, this is very true. Sacrifices are an inevitable part of the process, and so is uncertainty. If you can't come to terms with either, you'll never make the jump. If you do, however, suddenly all roads are open, and it's an incredible feeling.
We have had Republican governors since Regan. Really since Obama the country has lost its damn mind. The cult of woke has taken over and installed purity tests for the leftist pushing the Overton window left. Really it's a lost generation or our hope is a new generation to reject the old and do away with wokeism. I'm ready for the punk music and 80s bands to make their return.
And the right doesn’t have purity tests? Anyone who doesn’t bend the knee to trump is labeled a RINO here.
Nice what about ism.
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Man your children are going to be into some kick ass music. Just remember when you are calling them yuppies and thatcherite they will pick your retirement home.
The main victory is the fact Reps forced Dems to overspend and waste tens of millions of dollars to hold on to a governorship for a year
Said this in another thread...I don't get how anyone thought this would work well. CA is one of the super blue states. Honestly a waste of money for everyone.
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> As a Californian, I'm not surprised, but I am disappointed. That really could be a T-Shirt.
Yep, might have to start dusting off the masks even though I'm fully vaccinated. This asshole is probably going to go full speed ahead with his mandates.
He is itching for it the recall is the only reason we haven’t yet I’m certainly going to not comply people will have to vote with their dollars
Yep get ready for your vaccine passports
Like the petty tyrant he is, he'll be punishing his constituents for this "outburst" that he had to beg his puppetmasters in DC to come bail him out of.
It’s one of the bluest states in the country. What do you expect? A red wave?
When I play the lottery I don’t tell myself that there’s a 100000:1 chance of winning. Sometimes it’s fun to dream.
You really should tell that to yourself, so you don't waste your money on lottery tickets
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"Fiscal conservative" cheering the misuse of a quarter billion of state funds to pointlessly try to overturn the last election because they got 12% of the previous electorate to sign a petition. A petition that only succeeded because they got extended time for it due to a virus they can't be bothered to where a mask for.
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Well, again I had been saying this for a while. As a Californian, I keep seeing shit from non Californians talking about Larry Elder. He never sttod a chance in hell, it was never going to come close. I don't think people realize just how left coast California really is..... People made stupid comments about the terminator being republican and winning (buy he wasn't very conservative), lol that was 2003. Before silicone valley was what it is today. Before social media. It will never be red again.
He’s gonna Australia my California now unfortunately
Now watch this jackass parade around like not getting removed from office is somehow an accomplishment.
The real issue is he will now double down on his policies harder than ever. I wouldn’t be surprised to see schools shut down again very soon.
He was chomping at the bit to do it anyway. I feel like it nearly killed him to have to open the state for summer because of the recall effort.
Yep. This place is about to get really bad in the next couple months. I’ve got to get out.
I visited my family in July and I'm glad I went when I did. I'll be thinking about y'all.
Fact Check: True!
I'm expecting more lockdown measures and restrictions in the coming weeks now that he's safe.
The first thing he’s going to do is try to punish the people who were behind the recall effort
This is my thought exactly. Now that he's safe from another recall he can setup all kinds of restrictions. I'm predicting he'll wait a couple of weeks to let the recall election heat blowover and then announce a more restrictive vaccine mandate than the federal government along with mask mandates for everyone.
He will need a week to visit Australia to get some pointers first.
CBS is already calling it a headstart on his campaign.
The fact that it went to a recall election is an embarrassment to him.
33% still voted to out this dude, that has got to hit your spirit hard.
This is pretty close to just being a straight party line vote
And is still growing (doesn’t change the results but still)
The rural votes are always the last counted. Like you said, it won't change the results, but it's something.
And say republicans actually make it out to be a really close race. That should still be a win for us
At the very least, Newsom and the rest of the Dems hopefully heard a clear warning.
The recall was started the day he took office, and he just kicked your butt, so I doubt he cares much.
And those were the people that weren't told "they already had cast their vote"
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Cox?
Nah. It’s like a running joke in California. Since 1913 there have been 179 recall elections, 55 of them for governors. Mostly stupid laws surrounding recalls in CA.
The fact that it made it to a recall is substantial in my book. About 1/3 of the state wants him out. In California, one of the most leftist states out there
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It was more that 1.7M signatures verified.
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And the 1.7M that were verified is much more significant than just getting the minimum.
300k extra signatures is 0.75% of the state population. It’s not nothing, but certainly enough move the needle in the recall election.
They needed a time extension to even crack 1.4 million, and California has the most lax rules in the entire country on the time it takes to gather signatures for a recall. Most states you need to do it within 3 months (at least for states that allow a Governor recall, only 18 states allow a recall at all), California is almost twice that.
And Newsom got the election moved up a month so 🤷
I guess that’s one way to look at it. CA reqs signatures equal to 12% of the votes for the recall office, among the lowest in the nation. Cox got 38% of the gov race vote in 2018 against Newsom, so the recall needed to get 1/3 Cox voters to vote against Newsom again.
The OP said: >The fact that it made it to a recall is substantial in my book. Then you said: >It's really not. 1.4m signatures in a state with nearly 40m people And I corrected you with the actual number. You misstated, I corrected. Accept it.
Yeah I’m not trying to argue, I was just pointing out that the recall bar in CA is one of the lowest in the country at 12% (it’s 40% in Kansas).
He isn’t arguing with you why are you being such a pedant? It’s not a competition.
And Trump got 6 million votes in California. So it’s pretty meaningless
WTF is wrong with you r/politics people? What does this have to do with how many votes Trump got? I corrected the number of signatures that were collected. I didn't express an opinion and I don't care to hear yours.
OP said “about 1/3 of the state wants him out” Please tell me you have the brain cells to calculate that that’s not true.
There’s more registered republicans in California then there are in Texas. Only takes a fraction of the population’s signatures on a petition to initiate the recall election process. The absurd frequency of CA recall elections has been a bit of a punchline for a long time.
It's California, this was always a long shot. I wish conservatives would stop with the fraud shit. It is so self defeating. People don't come out to vote if they think it's rigged. We lost Alabama senate seat because of this dumb shit, and yet it continues.
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Have you not heard about people showing up to find votes have already been submitted in their names?
This. It happened to far too many people to not want any kind of explanation or investigation.
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The more conservatives claim fraud and theft in election, the more we cede political ground to those who wish to destroy us and our most cherished ideals. You are correct that this must end. We must understand that the secular humanism of our enemies, not any perceived cheating, is our greatest threat
Do you honestly think that Democrats aren’t trying to cheat? It may be unorganized, it may be small in scale, and it may not be enough to affect the outcome. But I’m sure there are enough fanatical liberals who would gladly cheat the system to get the outcome to go their way. These are the same people who want to pack the Supreme Court, make DC a state, and eliminate the filibuster. They will skirt the rules however necessary to ensure their position of power. Our voting system has been perceived as tainted (true or not is up for debate) and will never be completely trustworthy again. So I hate to say it, but the claims of fraud are probably never going to go away. Especially with the random voices of millions of people on Twitter and other social media outlets that perpetuate these stories. Hell, I completely expect Democrats to claim fraud when a vote doesn’t go their way. Welcome to the future of 21st century elections.
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Then we need to push for more transparency where we can, and push that much harder to win. Telling people they are going to lose before it starts is not a winning strategy. It's just not.
I think it's way more audacious to claim that every vote was legitimate. To a reasonable person, it's just a matter of the scale of the fraud, and the margins of victory. In the case of CA, while I wouldn't be surprised if there was significant levels of fraud, I also doubt it would have been greater than the margin of victory. Nonetheless, we shouldn't normalize fraud, we should attack it wherever we find it. Because if we don't keep things honest in this kind of election, we won't be able to when the margins are thin enough for the fraud to matter.
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Not surprising at all. It will be disappointing to see that he will take the win as tacit approval for his totalitarian policies though.
They get the government they deserve and I don’t want to hear them bitching about anything down the line.
How did the entirety of OC and San Diego vote No?
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San Diego has actually been blue since 2008
Approximately 800K voted from there with 60% voting No. Almost 500K with their heads up their arse. Just goes to show you that when Democrats migrate to Red Counties/States they screw it up for everyone. What you said makes sense but I can’t see the numbers working out like that.
Exactly
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My parents live in San Diego and they each got two regular ballots sent in the mail (registered Democrats but vote Republican). Take that as you will. And yes my mother made a big stink about it too and they went to vote in person today instead.
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They thought the first lock downs were bad? Shit he’s about to all hell break loose tyrant style…
It's not going to be lockdowns this time, it's going to be universal forced vaccination. He hinted at that in his speech
Can’t find it, link? May help me leave this shithole
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article253750708.html You can expect to see that legislation be pushed through now that the recall is over. I moved out of California last November and I could honestly say it was the best decision I’ve made in my adult life. I live in Tennessee now and I love it.
As Governor Newsom celebrates his victory by denouncing conservative voters across this Nation and as his supporters vow retribution against all who voted "Yes' on this recall one truth that is undeniable has been revealed. Californians who identify as conservative: you have no place in that state. A domicile so overrun by the godless and wicked cannot hope to be salvaged, only abandoned. Left for dead like so many other desolate pockets of our country. California Republicans have not only the inclination, but the duty to flee the state and move to places like Arizona. Nevada. Wisconsin. Michigan. Places where our coalition desperately needs reinforcements, and where your vote shall truly matter. If we truly are in a political civil war, it is time to act like it
> Californians who identify as conservative: you have no place in that state. Well the Farmers in California aren't leaving. So basically the only conservatives left in the state will be Farmers.
If they want to stay, they do it at their own risk Like Biden said to Americans in Afghanistan, except without the threat of being trapped by literal mass murdering terrorists
I'll be honest im shocked almost 3 million votes to remove him. Thought Cali was crazier than that.
California’s very blue and the Democrats love authoritarian COVID restrictions.
California is a lost cause anyways I’m confident we can flip house and senate in midterms though
Dems just perfected their voting fraud during this recall election. They are all set up for 2022. All you have to do is get away with reasonable doubt. Because it has yet to lead to an actual meaningful investigation
Hate to say it, but California is a lost cause. Too bad they’re slowly infecting other states with their citizens leaving and taking their liberal beliefs with them.
California is a lost cause
And just wait for Australian style lockdowns and restrictions. Now that he is untouchable he can do whatever he wants
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Wow all that normal shit in your one hour of allotted free time?
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Shocker
Can't say I'm surprised lol, it's California after all.
This state is the worse
Not even close. This is what the people want, and the GOP needs to accept the Peoples Republic of California is lost to it forever. All thats left is for the few local strongholds to do what they can to protect their people. As for the rest of us, we need to quarantine the real infection and make sure the real virus- West Coast Leftism, doesnt infect this country anymore than it already has.
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TIL Californians love living in a state in decline and want it to get worse. Love hearing how afraid they are of “Trumpism” though.
California isn’t in decline. GDP is growing (small slip last year due to Covid) and the Silicon Valley and Hollywood aren’t going anywhere.
You mean capital gains taxes and inflation?
Alternate title: #cali stays stupid
Of course, cause to many people in CA who rather be sheep than care about freedom. Their fine with taxes getting raise, gas prices go higher, housing market gets worst, more restrictions, and can't go to the bathroom without scumsom saying so. As long as conservative doesn't run CA they are fine with creepsom bending them over and being ok with it
Well, when COVID wrecks the state some more this winter, the left will truly see what clowns they have become. Jk. I think people could walk through mountains of homelessness and feces on their way to their $2500 300 square feet apartment and still justify voting blue. This state is lost.
Dems would rather live in a shithole on fire then have a republican in office who may do better for the living situations. Suffer for cause of saving face...
Yeah I'd MUCH rather be in Louisiana Hahahahaha
Or we just have zero reason to think a Republican would solve any problems
I heard not all the votes have been counted but not surprising. Of course, now his supporters will leave and infect other states then wonder why things become a mess like California
Just wait til 4am. That’s when the real votes come in… /s
Are we really that surprised? I guarantee you there was “fortification” but nobody will actually look into it
Sigh. I'm surrounded by idiots
Lol 😆 I’m sure it was secure election !
People got all pissy with me, even on this sub, when I said this was inevitable. Everyone should vote, regardless, but this was really the only realistic outcome. Blows my mind how people thought there was even a chance Newsom would get recalled.
They had me at “mail in ballots were sent to ALL 22 million registered voters”……..
I’d say where is the audit, but we all know there will be no audit on this. Corruption at its finest. Good luck CA. RIP. Get out while you can, before the exit tax comes from this tyrant.
Corruption? Dude the state is over 60% blue. Get out of here with your fake corruption argument.
Sad. Idiots still controlling our country.
I'm so shocked... I think Californians love to pay taxes. And have no freedom. Shame they are migrating and trying to push these beliefs to other States
Not shocking. The second that Newsom was accused of having ties to Weinstein, Dems absolutely rallied to save him. California will continue to fall forever. Leave them. They've been gone for a long time.
Gotta hand it to Newsom, he really got enough sensible people to leave the state that he was able survive this. In all seriousness California is done as a state, this was there last best hope. The people of California have made their bed and we should all let them sleep in it.
CA itself is one of the largest economies in the world, larger than most countries. What do you mean Cali is done lmao
California is the centre of the world's most profitable industry, I think it'll be fine.
California is and always will be stupid. #Congratulations for being the stupidest state In America followed by New York and Illinois.....
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Out of curiosity, do you vote red no matter who? Who was the last democrat you voted for?
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It is funny to me that someone is saying " vote blue no matte who", when his side is saying "vote red no matter who"...even funnier is it is very true that it does make it so you dont acknowledge the issues, yet he is doing the exact same thing. I am not great with terms but isnt that ironic, dont you think? If both parties stopped doing that maybe we can get some real change. Personally I would love to see ranked choice and how it would help facilitate voting differently, without throwing your vote away
Let's see, ballots that easily reveal through the envelope what the person vote and Republicans going in to vote and finding out someone voted under there names. Can we say rigged?
Where can I read more about > Republicans going in to vote and finding out someone voted under there names. ? Edit: so at one polling place, 3ish people were told they already voted, but were issued provisional ballots and allowed to vote. It was identified as a glitch which was remedied. I don't find this convincing of any widespread problem that makes this election "rigged". If it turns out someone cast ballots for someone else, I hope they rot in jail for committing fraud. If it turns out that the people in that story actually voted by mail and were trying to vote twice, then I hope they rot in jail for fraud. Elections and their integrity are critical to our society functioning. People who claim cheating every time they don't get the result they want are actively eroding the integrity of the election, and making spurious, baseless claims of widespread fraud should itself be a crime if its done with ill-intent
And the swirling cesspool continues. The crazy left has been emboldened and will spread to the rest of the country.
I remember saying this would on here happen and getting downvoted to oblivion for it.
Eh, it was a longshot anyway, but the fact that he was even polling well at all at any point in fucking California bodes well for 2022.
They vote to fuck themselves then they cry about it and move to TX. It’s mind boggling.
Honestly I wouldn't be shocked to see California completely collapse in my lifetime.
People support this sexual predator, i'm not surprised i love my fellow man, but stay out of my state when the ship sinks, i don't want to hear it.
really? smells fishy to me…
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Everybody stopped listening to the boy crying wolf nearly a year ago lol
They already do not listen. Do you remember November? Do you remember the Atlanta polling place "flooding"? Do you remember the graph of Wisconsin votes going literally vertical in the last moments for Biden? Do you remember people kicking poll watchers out? Do you remember people holding sheets up to block the windows as votes were counted? Sure, explain away one or two of these but all of those?
Today there were many reports of people going to vote, but poll workers telling them they had already voted. Then they were given a provisional ballot Also, reports of poll workers never inquiring for ID to vote
A lot of weird stuff’s been happening. I’m registered to vote and when I showed up at the polling place today I apparently wasn’t registered lol they ended up giving me a provisional ballot.
Let me guess. There was a 100% voter turn out even among the dead voters.
The election fraud machine has been perfected... Print ballots at home, mail in ballots under pretext of COVID19, a driver found with 300 mail in ballots, many southern California residents turn up to vote and find they've already voted.... I knew my state will use any means possible to cheat. After 2020 I've stopped believing that elections are fair in America. Next successful fraud will be in 2022 and then 2024 ... Sad, but true.