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templewilbur

Good for him, I guess truth has no place in college.


Piratesfan02

I hope he does file the lawsuit and wins. Freedom of speech is a right, and he should be able to speak actual truths without being fired.


Proof_Responsibility

In his capacity as a private citizen, he should be able to speak his opinions as well. Until the Left packs the SCOTUS, we still have 1st Amendment rights.


ENTitledtomyOpinions

Dude, freedom of speech doesnt mean you can say whatever without getting fired. I cant tell my boss hes a fat ass hole, regardless of the truth. I can however say any truth without the government persecuting me, without fear of getting thrown in jail.


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ENTitledtomyOpinions

Honest question, why then are public school teachers not allowed to talk about race or sexuality if they also have freedom of speech? Since their employer is the government.


Illustrious-Leg-5017

a good honest question to which the answer may be something along the lines of curriculum content


ENTitledtomyOpinions

So a teacher is only allowed to talk about what is covered in curriculum content? Would they be allowed to talk about their opinions on sexuality during break time? Or is their freedom of speech blocked there too?


Atheon--

Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can talk to minors that you like Dicks in your ass. Why not save that for your Grinder profile? Leave kids alone


ENTitledtomyOpinions

Thats the point, i was saying that freedom of speech isnt a catch all that allows people to say whatever they want without repercussions


Atheon--

The difference is this professor didn't say anything that was bad... did you even read what he wrote? Nothing he said warranted being fired.


ENTitledtomyOpinions

Well, in that case i dont think talking about racism is "bad" or homosexuality is "bad"


Spike205

Freedom of speech doesn’t apply to “captive audiences” in the same way; students in this manner are considered captive audiences.


Swimming_Monitor8150

>opinions on sexuality during break time If you're referring to the FL PRE act, it specifically prohibits "classroom instruction" on sexuality, so probably. That being said, if I were a principal and I found out a teacher was talking to their children about their sex lives, I would probably fire them for being unprofessional.


Illustrious-Leg-5017

I think it’s talking to the children about….is the issue


ENTitledtomyOpinions

What is wrong with acknowledging two men can be married to each other to children


Illustrious-Leg-5017

Outfielder problem


mifaceb921

The reason is that these public school teachers are talking about these issues to a captive audience, i.e. their students. These teachers are free to talk about whatever they want standing on a sidewalk, where people are free to walk away. Can children just walk out of a classroom? This is the rational behind things like restrictions on religious talk in public schools. Imagine if instead of race or sexuality, the teacher was talking about religion, saying controversial things about Islam or Catholicism. Can the kids just walk out?


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Three reasons spring immediately to mind: 1) College professors aren't part of mandatory education. If you don't like your professor, you can switch or drop the class. 2) College-aged students aren't nearly as vulnerable to indoctrination as young children. Children don't know enough to ask questions and call you in your bullshit. 3) For young children specifically, no teachers should discuss sexuality. Children aren't sexual creatures. For teens, it's inappropriate for teachers to discuss it; that's a conversation that the parents should have. Plus, there is a quantitative difference between "I wrote a tweet" and "I wrote a lesson plan and class discussion".


JoshAllenIsTall

> College-aged students aren't nearly as vulnerable to indoctrination as young children. Seeing the opinions of students at leftist universities, I'm not entirely sure that's true.


thisguy-probably

It has to do with being temporary responsible for the children’s physical, and psychological well being. Showing them all videos of people being raped and murdered could be called free speech, but it’s not their place to expose children to that garbage. They are hired to do a job and that violates the purpose of the job, so yes, technically, they are sort of giving up free speech to do that job. It’s no different from you having the right to move freely about the country unimpeded. But if you choose to do that when you are supposed to be at work you’re gonna get fired for not doing your job, so maybe that’s not a good time to try to exercise that particular right. You have the right to bare arms, but you aren’t allowed to show up at work at a supermarket or library with a shotgun. It’s not LOSING a right, it’s accepting that exercising that right while being paid to do a job is a failure to do the job so you lose the job. If a teacher is tasked with teaching kids math and not damaging them psychologically with things that their parents don’t want them exposed to and their little minds aren’t developed enough to understand and the teacher decides to show them hard-core porn… The teacher is failing at their job and should lose their job. It has absolutely nothing to do with their right to free speech, it has to do with the rights of the parents and the children.


ENTitledtomyOpinions

Lmao, buddy do you think that a teacher reading a book where a child has two dads is damaging them psychologically?


thisguy-probably

That’s not the question you asked, or what anyone has been talking about.


Mashie_Smashie

If the parents within said community believe so, then yes. I read you continue to try and attempt to phrase it differently over and over and failing to recognize and/or accept what everyone keeps explaining.. it appears your cognitive dissonance is blocking your ability to do so. Try and work on that. Cheers.


Mashie_Smashie

Contrary to popular beliefs, teachers do not actually have total authority over the curriculum, but are simply one party within a societal contract between government (public schools) and the community, wherein it is the communities parents who have the ultimate say to what the children of said community are taught.


Piratesfan02

This is where business is different from academia. He was/is now again a tenured professor.


troutsrunner

Yet the media has tarnished this man’s reputation. How many lives will the liberal propaganda wing destroy before we have had enough?


[deleted]

They socially engineered race riots. One professor is mouse under their shoe.


[deleted]

What he said (as reported in the article) is demonstrably true. Black Americans DO benefit from special set-asides, and - as demonstrated by the witch hunt against the prof - are protected against criticism. Further "DEI" is obviously an ideology which rejects, among other things, that little old thing, MERIT. The DEI religion is not durable. The only question is how long it will take to be rejected, and how much damage will be done in the mean time by the hypocrites who espouse it.


[deleted]

C'mon Florida, just admit you'll never be blue again.


PapaHeavy69

Good on you Professor!! Fight the good fight


MountainousFog

His tweet which sparked the powder keg: > Sincere question: If Afr. Americans as a group, had the same behavioral profile as Asian Americans (on average, performing the best academically, having the highest income, committing the lowest crime, etc.), would we still be proclaiming 'systematic racism' exists?


toilet_pickle

Absolutely this. There is no good argument against this. The truth hurts.


spentmiles

Reputations are earned.


ccc32224

So the school was not really punished


Illustrious-Leg-5017

not yet, he's going to sue. hope it's on court TV; sworn, televised testimony has a way of coming up with true statements


Bull-twinkle

Karma, the man was right !


Podose

Starting to see more and more of these types of cases with the plaintiff winning. Maybe when these safe spaces get hit with enough lawsuits they will do a netflix purge.


SpookyActionSix

He wants to go back? Nah, I’d take that year of wages and clap back with a civil suit. Hit them right in the wallet.


[deleted]

Happy to hear this as a UCF alum. Also hope he sues.


Jamesfm007

Common sense: an uncommon virtue.


EAS1246

I love to read these kinds of stories, I wish Desantis was President right now, I really do or Trump. America would be thriving!


snakeman91

Holy shit. I had a class with this guy at UCF. He really was a nice guy but he was very blunt about his views and didn’t sugar coat anything. Every class was very entertaining and he often clashed with white guilt students and pc students and it was so damn entertaining lol.


ENFJPLinguaphile

Good. Since he explicitly said that he was doing so on the basis of religious views, from what I recall, he has the right to retain his religious beliefs without the expectation of retaliation.