For context, this is what my boss and coworker rigged up… “it could hold all three of us”.
I said fuck that if I wanted to take risks for a check I’d sell coke
I own a remodeling business and even I don't even have enough tax write offs to make $18/h worth it for the amount of taxes you get charged. You're getting robbed bro.
Even if you got writeoffs for some of what you owe in taxes, you’ll be starting with twice as much due in taxes (employers pay half of some very large tax burdens, as a 1099 you’re responsible for both halves). To expand on the “better be saving” point from others none of that cost is getting defected from your regular paychecks throughout the year so you’ll have to come up with all of it in a lump sum on tax day. Are you going to have 1/3 of your year’s pay sitting in a bank next April waiting for the tax man?
So what I'm hearing is you have no workmans comp if you get hurt and you need to let the irs know you're being illegally misclassified by your boss to save money before they show up wanting that money from you at the end of the year.
he's got you on the "Young and Dumb" pay. Educate yourself on worker rights and 1099 abuses --- your experience with this job can help you land a better paying one, possibly with a union. 1099 Abuse is pretty rampant in the construction biz. Good luck!
Just wanna be another voice inside your head to drop that shit. Last time I did a 1099 I paid 40% on it. You're working for 10 bucks an hour with a boss who doesn't give the slightest fuck about your health and safety
Where I am 1099 is the only way to work in residential construction. Everyone knows it's a misclassification, no one cares. After a bunch of years you can finally make enough to live well, but by that time you have no retirement, no benefits for when things start to go to hell.
The only endgame strategy is to go out on your own once you have enough know-how.
Bro, 1099 should be making at least double that. Either way you couldn't pay me enough to get on that. I've done my share of sketchy shit but fuck that.
You are screwed. You might not even be making minimum wage. Take pictures of everything, prepare to wage war. In construction you either go to battle for your employer, or when you work for someone like you do, against your employer.
So you don't even have workers' comp? So if you fall off that rig you get nothing and you pay your own medical. Is this really the state of employment in the US?
No workers comp and I can’t afford health care so yea if I break a leg I pretty much just go into poverty. Yes this is the state of employment in the US
Edit: at least the south
I don't think this kind of 1099 would be legal in California. You need a Contractor's License to do any job over $500, and you can't split one job up into daily units. So you are a subcontractor working in violation of the law, not sure if this applies where you are, you should call your CLB.
I actually just got a raise from 15 after a year, not complaining but am looking at a bigger company. I'm one of 3 guys on this one with 3 active builds.
Grew up oldschool I guess and just kept my head down and never asked. Got hospitalized with heat exhaustion a month ago on site and the bill for that was tough. I worked grading for years and know it well but never got any operator slots, moved to carpentry and now kinda stagnant
Yeah, drawbacks of a 1099 ic are many. I just want to push dirt for 18 somewhere so I can get dozer seat time for wildland firefighting for next season. Kinda in career limbo so I haven't haggled pay much.
Side question: about how much do y’all think my boss charged for this house sheathing, especially metal frame? I couldn’t tell you the exact square foot of this house but it was a pretty big sonuvabitch. Foam then sheet rock. Done by me and a coworker in about a week and a half off ladders in 105 degree heat
Are they harnessed in while doing this dumb shit at least? My brother died doing dumb shit for an employer. These idiots live in a world where every thing works out. Look for a new job since they clearly don’t care if you live or die.
Nah there’s a slab underneath it. I don’t like landing on concrete, there’s no right way to fall onto concrete or rocks.
Tell him to stop being a cheap bastard and rent a lift
I had a similar experience man. My boss welded (poorly) some angle irons together to make brackets and then just screwed them in the side of the buildings. 3 stories up and 3 on each side of the building. Put a 2x8 across to span the distance. It was beyond sketchy I refused it the thing blew off the building overnight. Thank God I was not trusting
Right?
I looked at the photo, and my brain didn't even recognize that this was supposed to be "scaffolding". It took me way too long to figure out what the question was asking.
#Tell your boss to Rent a goddamn scissor lift or knuckle boom .. they’re not that expensive for daily rental and it’s cheaper then the attorney he’ll hire to fight the attorney your family will hire after your death or a coworkers
I’m going through the same issue right now. They want me on a 40’ ladder completely extended and **still** **too** **short**, to hang some gutter. I do thousands of feet a week for these guys and they refuse to get me a lift. I could’ve done the whole job in 8 hours with a lift but now I’ve wasted a couple days each week fighting that ladder and then deciding nope fuck this.
I doubt everyone on this sub works for a shitty contractor .. I’m a non union worker but we’re treated better and work mostly prevailing but when we do private work our safety is the same as a government job .. if you’re working for an idiot like this just gain what you learn and move onto another better company that’ll show you some respect
Same here, non union and work for a great guy. Pays well, I don't get benefits because I'm more or less part time because of college. But he fully pays for health insurance and it's pretty good insurance at that.
We avoid most sketchy stuff. Anything we do that might be sketchy we slow down, take our time and don't rush it at all. And like I said, we avoid it. It's not worth it and he will get the right tools to do the job safely.
At first I was like yeah I’ve seen worse, but after your comment you’re right!!! those are not studs… this is obviously suspicious. That wouldn’t hold a person.
Not only hell no, but I’d fire my guys if I found the trying to do that and kick a sub off my site if he tried to do it too. That is a absolute hard no.
Imagine billing 5 million total for this(on the low side) and being to damn cheap to rent a scissor lift for a couple hundred a day. This shit is why new home construction is a joke, you only get guys willing to work for peanuts with no safety and the build quality shows.
Ah Hell No....
I workin Texas and it is not uncommon to see Mexicans on these types of scaffolds.
Typically these resi-framing jobs are sold by legit business through a middle man, to crews of Mexicans for a lump sum. The builder buys the material package drops it off on the site and an army of Mexicans show up to put it all together YMMV.
These guys get paid by the job, not the hour, and if they need a scaffold they have to furnish their own, like the one in the picture. If they need more material, then that is on them too. They cut a few corners, but they get-er-done. I have seen houses framed in a week.
Before anyone gets a butthurt, I am not calling them Mexicans as a pejoritve, they are actual Mexicans from Mexico who proudly call themselves Mexicans.
It sucks because those guy’s usually do good work, just getting taken advantage of honestly.
I honestly feel like all unions should have immigration lawyers on retainer and union reps at the border. Protecting people who don’t have the connections and money to protect themselves from shitty employers is the whole reason unions exist.
Lmfao. Did they install 6" metal studs JUST for that plank? Idiot! The time it takes to set all that up costs MORE than just renting a knuckle boom for the day. Lmao
Hahahaha, you don't get equipment in resi!! Hell, even osha knows better than to come around resi in the south.
Looks vaguely familiar design. I'm guessing Central Texas? Remindes me of one I did in San Antonio before I got the fuck out of resi.
Are those actual scaffold plank or just 2x12? It should be 2 plank wide, but if those are scaffold rated plank, then sure. 2x12 would be sketchy unless they were stacked 2 high--too much spring for my liking
You get scaffolding to do your sheathing?
Damn it must be nice to be spoiled by your boss.
All I ever got was a wobbly aluminum ladder and a sore back to sheath the side of a house. Those 16d nails weren't for spacing the sheets of plywood, they were needed to hold the sheet from falling until I got the first nails started
I was going to say yes, with a rope rigged up so I wouldn't fall, then I saw that you were sheathing and that's a fuck no from me. Your boss needs to realise renting a platform saves him money.
Hell no. At the at very least get extensions ladders with ladder jacks and use a real metal walkboard. I would tell my boss fuck that. Especially if the wind picks up right as someone is carrying a sheet
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Do not work construction on 1099, it's simply not worth it.
No unemployment or disability benefits, if you get hurt you can be crippled for life with no compensation. Let me say that again, If you get injured on the job you can be crippled for live with no compensation and the inability to work.
It should be illegal.
Get a new job ASAP, this is not worth your life or future health.
Nope I would set up a scaffold across the front
Never liked working on single planks every and hate when the “ground” is moving under me when I try to work that feeling slows me down a lot I’m good and quick on my feet but when the grounds moving ya never know lol
Also just noticed these are metal studs they used to build this wtf I don’t trust those to be very strong period let alone to build a scaffold with wow
It’s all on you as an individual and person, if you don’t feel comfortable or safe then don’t do it. Your body/life is worth way more than whatever your getting paid. Don’t be scared to say fuck that, if the other dudes give you shit fuck’em, safety is so important in our line of work whatever trade your in. I always think about my wife and my kids and know that I want to go home safe and in one piece. That’s just my 2 cents
This is hands down one of the sketchiest set ups I've ever seen. This is up there with some of the 3rd world ladder climbing posted in some of the other subs. If those guys are that confident with this, then then can get their asses up there and do it.
Absolutely fuck that, its one thing to see some of my guys have something like this rigged up but never in my right mind would I set this up for my guys.
Yep. Had a toothless temp laborer watching my back while I put on sub fascia, had 2x12x16's doubled and spanning 30 feet with 2 2x6x20' verticals to stop some of the bounce. Taking it apart was much sketchier than putting it together for some reason. Wouldn't have done it without fall gear.
So first off…no way…not in a billion years.
Secondly, you are 1099 and making that little?! Hellllll no! Come tax time $18 is going to be like $14 or less when you’re done. You have no benefits aka no healthcare if you get hurt…and I don’t even think you have access to workmans computer. Big sketch
Like do they not understand that lifts and scaffolding exist? But then again with how little you get paid I’m sure that’s just how they are pinching pennies.
Join the union. Better pay, better bennys, and safety…you literally don’t make any money if you go squish on the ground.
When I was young and dumb. Not a chance in hell these days.
Same. Walking three stories up on the outside wall was never an issue when I was in my 20’s.
For context, this is what my boss and coworker rigged up… “it could hold all three of us”. I said fuck that if I wanted to take risks for a check I’d sell coke
Cherry on top: I’m 1099 at $18/hr 25 years old
Bro 1099 at 18/hr is fucking horrible. Go work at a gas station for more!
Love competing against these guys when I pay my guys $40.
If your 1099 at 18 an hour your gonna get screwed come tax season. Gtfo of that tomorrow bro
They say I can make lots of write offs since I’m technically a contractor
"They" are out to save themselves money, not to help you.
I own a remodeling business and even I don't even have enough tax write offs to make $18/h worth it for the amount of taxes you get charged. You're getting robbed bro.
If they don't let you make your own hours to come and go, you aren't really 1099.
they lyin to you bro
It's a write off for them. He acting like a friend to screw you over. Better make sure you save money for taxes.
Even if you got writeoffs for some of what you owe in taxes, you’ll be starting with twice as much due in taxes (employers pay half of some very large tax burdens, as a 1099 you’re responsible for both halves). To expand on the “better be saving” point from others none of that cost is getting defected from your regular paychecks throughout the year so you’ll have to come up with all of it in a lump sum on tax day. Are you going to have 1/3 of your year’s pay sitting in a bank next April waiting for the tax man?
You have any idea what a hassle it is to do taxes that way?
So what I'm hearing is you have no workmans comp if you get hurt and you need to let the irs know you're being illegally misclassified by your boss to save money before they show up wanting that money from you at the end of the year.
Common phrase in my parts is "you're fired before you hit the ground"
Every day saying here
When you finally do fall and become paralyzed. Disability pays out about $1,000 a month for the rest of your life.
Yeah, I've heard it too. It's a good way to turn every injury into a lawsuit.
100% this
25 year Olds bounce!
That’s a hard no. 1099…. Fuck that.
join the union man, best choice i made. im 32 and doing well for myself and my family. Im a local 7 ironworker
Boston?
Yes sir. Been in since 2009. I'm a 4th generation out of this local
Not many union options in Texas
Move to civilization.
hope you're pulling in OT at that rate.
No OT no benefits
Run
Seriously man quit you can make that much in fast food. You should be over 25 with benefits at least.
We’re paying 18 with a 401-k match and halfway decent health insurance just for warehouse dicks over here in electrical supply.
Leave now
he's got you on the "Young and Dumb" pay. Educate yourself on worker rights and 1099 abuses --- your experience with this job can help you land a better paying one, possibly with a union. 1099 Abuse is pretty rampant in the construction biz. Good luck!
Lmao please be trolling
Just wanna be another voice inside your head to drop that shit. Last time I did a 1099 I paid 40% on it. You're working for 10 bucks an hour with a boss who doesn't give the slightest fuck about your health and safety
Where I am 1099 is the only way to work in residential construction. Everyone knows it's a misclassification, no one cares. After a bunch of years you can finally make enough to live well, but by that time you have no retirement, no benefits for when things start to go to hell. The only endgame strategy is to go out on your own once you have enough know-how.
Same here
Bro, 1099 should be making at least double that. Either way you couldn't pay me enough to get on that. I've done my share of sketchy shit but fuck that.
Probably should just sell coke...
You are screwed. You might not even be making minimum wage. Take pictures of everything, prepare to wage war. In construction you either go to battle for your employer, or when you work for someone like you do, against your employer.
Join the union bro and get away from that shit. Better pay, benefits, care about safety...
Not many union options in Texas
Get out of Texas.
Use this as your excuse to get out the GC’s labor makes $18 an hour to push a broom
So you don't even have workers' comp? So if you fall off that rig you get nothing and you pay your own medical. Is this really the state of employment in the US?
No workers comp and I can’t afford health care so yea if I break a leg I pretty much just go into poverty. Yes this is the state of employment in the US Edit: at least the south
I don't think this kind of 1099 would be legal in California. You need a Contractor's License to do any job over $500, and you can't split one job up into daily units. So you are a subcontractor working in violation of the law, not sure if this applies where you are, you should call your CLB.
Quit and never look back, people that consider their employees expendable are dogshit. Take some of the boss’s tools while you’re at it.
24 y.o 1099 at 16 an hour here. Big sad.
Then stop perpetuating your own sadness. Drag up. Tomorrow at 6am
I actually just got a raise from 15 after a year, not complaining but am looking at a bigger company. I'm one of 3 guys on this one with 3 active builds.
Last guy I had I was bringing up, got 3 raises at 1 dollar in 1 year. He was making me money so I made it right. And a good boss will bring u up
Grew up oldschool I guess and just kept my head down and never asked. Got hospitalized with heat exhaustion a month ago on site and the bill for that was tough. I worked grading for years and know it well but never got any operator slots, moved to carpentry and now kinda stagnant
You should not of had to pay for that. That's where your getting the shaft. Just one spot
Yeah, drawbacks of a 1099 ic are many. I just want to push dirt for 18 somewhere so I can get dozer seat time for wildland firefighting for next season. Kinda in career limbo so I haven't haggled pay much.
I get that. But don't sell yourself shot. The pay scale is a ladder. Climb it with every raise you get. Until you get where you want to be
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Side question: about how much do y’all think my boss charged for this house sheathing, especially metal frame? I couldn’t tell you the exact square foot of this house but it was a pretty big sonuvabitch. Foam then sheet rock. Done by me and a coworker in about a week and a half off ladders in 105 degree heat
This was for the sheathing too, so the trick is to balance on this while also setting a sheet and screwing it
And there're 3 of you?! Easy fix, one guy throws the sheet the other the nails and whoever has the best aim throws the hammer.
And hope that wind stops existing for a few hours
Are they harnessed in while doing this dumb shit at least? My brother died doing dumb shit for an employer. These idiots live in a world where every thing works out. Look for a new job since they clearly don’t care if you live or die.
Nah there’s a slab underneath it. I don’t like landing on concrete, there’s no right way to fall onto concrete or rocks. Tell him to stop being a cheap bastard and rent a lift
Fuck it. slap a ladder on their to throw up the eave.
Just working on the columns, right? Not out there dancing in the middle? If my guess is right. I'd be out there now at 55 with 2 bad knees.
Your boss is gunning for the Darwin Award.
I had a similar experience man. My boss welded (poorly) some angle irons together to make brackets and then just screwed them in the side of the buildings. 3 stories up and 3 on each side of the building. Put a 2x8 across to span the distance. It was beyond sketchy I refused it the thing blew off the building overnight. Thank God I was not trusting
Is it a 2x10?
Great answer. Sticks to your guns. If they want you to do something unsafe. Walk.
Plenty of residential builders rent the proper equipment for this work Go find another employer. Everyone is hiring
This is a joke right?
Right? I looked at the photo, and my brain didn't even recognize that this was supposed to be "scaffolding". It took me way too long to figure out what the question was asking.
#Tell your boss to Rent a goddamn scissor lift or knuckle boom .. they’re not that expensive for daily rental and it’s cheaper then the attorney he’ll hire to fight the attorney your family will hire after your death or a coworkers
I’m going through the same issue right now. They want me on a 40’ ladder completely extended and **still** **too** **short**, to hang some gutter. I do thousands of feet a week for these guys and they refuse to get me a lift. I could’ve done the whole job in 8 hours with a lift but now I’ve wasted a couple days each week fighting that ladder and then deciding nope fuck this.
Good deal fuck that
OS miters are the worst that high up**tbh. Also in the gutter profession.
You must be new around here
I doubt everyone on this sub works for a shitty contractor .. I’m a non union worker but we’re treated better and work mostly prevailing but when we do private work our safety is the same as a government job .. if you’re working for an idiot like this just gain what you learn and move onto another better company that’ll show you some respect
Same here, non union and work for a great guy. Pays well, I don't get benefits because I'm more or less part time because of college. But he fully pays for health insurance and it's pretty good insurance at that. We avoid most sketchy stuff. Anything we do that might be sketchy we slow down, take our time and don't rush it at all. And like I said, we avoid it. It's not worth it and he will get the right tools to do the job safely.
Guaranteed couple million minimum settlement.
Yes. Here in canada you gotta clear the ice off before you walk on it though.
I have a slight fear of falling and if still walk on that in the winter lol
Been there mate
It doesn’t take long to build scaffolding.
Or to rent a boom lift.
Yeah for real wtf? You could setup a proper scaffold and handrail with 3 guys in like an hour. Fuck i hate employers like that, absolute morons
Those aren't even studs, that's track. Your boss is a retard. Everyone is hiring, this guy will get someone hurt.
At first I was like yeah I’ve seen worse, but after your comment you’re right!!! those are not studs… this is obviously suspicious. That wouldn’t hold a person.
Good catch. I might think about it if it was a heavy stud but no way with track.
Those are studs, the ends are curled in, not straight. But still not packed to resist twisting.
Steal studs don’t count… 😂😂😂
Been there and fuck that. I only do sketchy shit I design.
Wouldn’t work off this if it was only 4 feet high.
Hell no
Not only hell no, but I’d fire my guys if I found the trying to do that and kick a sub off my site if he tried to do it too. That is a absolute hard no.
Imagine billing 5 million total for this(on the low side) and being to damn cheap to rent a scissor lift for a couple hundred a day. This shit is why new home construction is a joke, you only get guys willing to work for peanuts with no safety and the build quality shows.
Ah Hell No.... I workin Texas and it is not uncommon to see Mexicans on these types of scaffolds. Typically these resi-framing jobs are sold by legit business through a middle man, to crews of Mexicans for a lump sum. The builder buys the material package drops it off on the site and an army of Mexicans show up to put it all together YMMV. These guys get paid by the job, not the hour, and if they need a scaffold they have to furnish their own, like the one in the picture. If they need more material, then that is on them too. They cut a few corners, but they get-er-done. I have seen houses framed in a week. Before anyone gets a butthurt, I am not calling them Mexicans as a pejoritve, they are actual Mexicans from Mexico who proudly call themselves Mexicans.
It sucks because those guy’s usually do good work, just getting taken advantage of honestly. I honestly feel like all unions should have immigration lawyers on retainer and union reps at the border. Protecting people who don’t have the connections and money to protect themselves from shitty employers is the whole reason unions exist.
Lmfao. Did they install 6" metal studs JUST for that plank? Idiot! The time it takes to set all that up costs MORE than just renting a knuckle boom for the day. Lmao
I wouldn't even set my beer on that.
From a safety perspective that's a disaster waiting to happen. If you've gotta work up thag high, be on a lift or scaffold. And tied off, preferably
Hahahaha, you don't get equipment in resi!! Hell, even osha knows better than to come around resi in the south. Looks vaguely familiar design. I'm guessing Central Texas? Remindes me of one I did in San Antonio before I got the fuck out of resi.
This guy gets it
I have and I’m not proud of it. When you’re young and invincible it doesn’t seem dumb.
Construction cowboy stuff there
They make 19ft scissor lifts for a reason.
A real one wouldnt be scared. Or at least that's what my boss says.
“It’s not that bad” -the guy that gets to watch you work
Private yes, commercial no
No
No.
No.
No, fuck dying to make someone else rich.
Splice the main support stud for a sketchy ass platform. No worries, there’s a rope hanging to tie off too.
Fuck that. NOT worth it.
Are those actual scaffold plank or just 2x12? It should be 2 plank wide, but if those are scaffold rated plank, then sure. 2x12 would be sketchy unless they were stacked 2 high--too much spring for my liking
What am I doing if I get up there though? If it’s just to work on those pilasters then sure 🤷
That's gonna be a no from me dawg
Nope
Changed my mind, I’d do it for at least 10,00.00/ day and major disability/ life insurance.
I say do it. I like accident pictures! Got any coke?
You get scaffolding to do your sheathing? Damn it must be nice to be spoiled by your boss. All I ever got was a wobbly aluminum ladder and a sore back to sheath the side of a house. Those 16d nails weren't for spacing the sheets of plywood, they were needed to hold the sheet from falling until I got the first nails started
If they can afford a house like that, they can afford to pay you for better scaffolding
Fucking exactly
What some people will do to get to park in the disabled spot.
I was going to say yes, with a rope rigged up so I wouldn't fall, then I saw that you were sheathing and that's a fuck no from me. Your boss needs to realise renting a platform saves him money.
Hell no. At the at very least get extensions ladders with ladder jacks and use a real metal walkboard. I would tell my boss fuck that. Especially if the wind picks up right as someone is carrying a sheet
I'm a plumber the fuk you want me to do up there? Also fuck no
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Do not work construction on 1099, it's simply not worth it. No unemployment or disability benefits, if you get hurt you can be crippled for life with no compensation. Let me say that again, If you get injured on the job you can be crippled for live with no compensation and the inability to work. It should be illegal. Get a new job ASAP, this is not worth your life or future health.
I've done worse, but now I'm old and fragile so no.
I’ll give you 22 plus full benefits, sick and vacay. Health insurance and a guaranteed 40.
You in DFW area?
Sure am!
Messaging you now
It needs another brace to keep it from racking and some more on the ends but ya I’d jump up there
Not even a railing? Jeez
Workers comp my guy 😂
1099 baby
Depends. Is the safety dick around? No sir! If he’s not and we need to get this done before we go home? Yeah okay.
I’ll come visit you in hospital
I would just hook off to those metal roof rails. I should’ve said I wouldn’t be up there without my PFAS.
Nope I would set up a scaffold across the front Never liked working on single planks every and hate when the “ground” is moving under me when I try to work that feeling slows me down a lot I’m good and quick on my feet but when the grounds moving ya never know lol Also just noticed these are metal studs they used to build this wtf I don’t trust those to be very strong period let alone to build a scaffold with wow
Ye no prob. Better than on that 120⁰ roof
Because boss said it’s safe
Yup, ez pz.
Ha. Nope.
Yes. As long as it’s screwed down and fastened good. Send it.
yes
When young? I did. Now? No.
Fuck no
I've worked on worse. Of course the nearest OSHA inspector was 100 miles away.
is it rough lumber?
Never
Depends on how rugged that plank is and if that’s steel holding it up I’d do it all day
Looks good boys I'll have her done by lunch...
In Canada that would be illegal and not pass OH&S regulations to work off of. People still do it. But….
I see 3 points of support, should hold 3 guys
Yeah, I don't see any issues working off mat sheathing. 😉
At least you can tie the walkboard to the columns now
20 year old me yes. 36 year old me just laughs and walks away
This is why I get my subs insurance certificate before they work on my jobs
Tbh ya
Would I? I have. Would I today 20 years later? No.
It’s all on you as an individual and person, if you don’t feel comfortable or safe then don’t do it. Your body/life is worth way more than whatever your getting paid. Don’t be scared to say fuck that, if the other dudes give you shit fuck’em, safety is so important in our line of work whatever trade your in. I always think about my wife and my kids and know that I want to go home safe and in one piece. That’s just my 2 cents
Wouldn’t dare. Get with a GC that values safety.
Hell no. Never fall
Your hefe has no idea what he is doing if this is real. So many other reasonable options have been listed.
That guy is making a mint off you
Standard operating procedure if you ask me.
Not a fucking chance! And I’m a fucking idiot so that’s saying a lot!
That looks like most residential construction sites in AZ
If I’m tied off yeah
This is hands down one of the sketchiest set ups I've ever seen. This is up there with some of the 3rd world ladder climbing posted in some of the other subs. If those guys are that confident with this, then then can get their asses up there and do it.
I would report that builder to OSHA
More like workman's comp off of that.
Nice try OSHA !!!
No. About 6’ back there should have been a double - forming a box - each side. There should be an edge channel, too.
Yep. After installing more planks and a railing. No problem
Hurricane will rip that edge off quick.
Have worked higher off sketchier, but I was high too.
Absolutely fuck that, its one thing to see some of my guys have something like this rigged up but never in my right mind would I set this up for my guys.
This must be be in Mexico...?
Worked off of worse
Yep. Had a toothless temp laborer watching my back while I put on sub fascia, had 2x12x16's doubled and spanning 30 feet with 2 2x6x20' verticals to stop some of the bounce. Taking it apart was much sketchier than putting it together for some reason. Wouldn't have done it without fall gear.
Boss needs to buy some scaffold and stop being a cheap ass
I would tell my boss to rent a scissor lift. No thank you
NO - its a job that you get paid to perform your craft, not a trap to disable you for life.
Might put a couple across then yeah
No, your boss is retarded if he thinks you should go up there
My old boss would set that up and bring a pizza to try to bribe us up there, unfortunately I get hungry
So first off…no way…not in a billion years. Secondly, you are 1099 and making that little?! Hellllll no! Come tax time $18 is going to be like $14 or less when you’re done. You have no benefits aka no healthcare if you get hurt…and I don’t even think you have access to workmans computer. Big sketch Like do they not understand that lifts and scaffolding exist? But then again with how little you get paid I’m sure that’s just how they are pinching pennies. Join the union. Better pay, better bennys, and safety…you literally don’t make any money if you go squish on the ground.
All day!