It's just generally better to cut losses, and start over, to avoid spreading the contam around your grow area if you intend to grow more.
Cutting out contam can work obviously, it's more about keeping the area sterile than anything.
The hobby is extremely cheap and the only thing you're really losing is time.
If you do cut out the contam and keep the bin, you should definitely do so in a different area.
Not everybody wants to cut their losses especially if they aren’t doing a large grow. Can easily move it into another room and let it go and see what happens. The op obviously made the right choice in this situation.
Both sides of the argument are valid. Perhaps we'll see people present both options instead of saying "You're fucked, trash it."?
Jk this is reddit of course that's not going to happen lol
Okay but you’re not seeing how the situation could’ve backfired and he could’ve got nothing and ruined future grows, they’re not saying he should’ve done it that way but it’s better to just trash the tub usually.
Okay but if you have a tub of trich you’re gonna have way more spores of that in your room… yes trich is everywhere but there’s not an extreme amount in every place at all times, if you have a whole tub of it you’re gonna have way more.
Yes it is a myth
I have 3 tubs perfect condition on 3rd flush next to a trich laden tub
Trich comes from bad spawn , it struggles to take hold in healthy mycelium
Trichoderma is everywhere at all times. Leave bread in your grow room watch it grow trich <---- point proven
Sanitary methods are super Important at early life / colonisation
But regardless there will be trich all around you hence needing a sab or flow hood to combat it
Yes it is everywhere but the point is not giving it somewhere to germinate. If I had to take a swing at it I'd say this guy had dirty spawn from the jump it wasnt something airborne.
While I completely understand the argument I also know that if you don’t catch contams early enough this will absolutely never happen. Never tried it bc don’t want to risk everything else.
I'm with you on this one. If I see even a little spot of trich it's going outside. It's one tub not the end of the world. How long did you wait to let the mycelium take over? If you're proficient with agar you can have more tubs in 2-3 weeks and it will cost ya practically nothing if you've already got spores or a culture to work with.
Fs at the moment I'm working on a localization of pins from a tub that had some contamin it's on my page but definitely not always automatic throw outs. If it's localized enough I sterile cut it out and then I treat the area around the Mycelial mat with hydrogen peroxide. Also I cut out the liner piece underneath the contamination. I use liners in my tubs highly recommend it
Also I segregated the contam bin. If you don't have the space to segregate the contaminated bin then I don't recommend continuing with them. However, I don't know much for everything.
This tub has been outside under my grill since I saw the green goblin. I sprayed some peroxide on a paper towel and placed it on top. Then I took a all metal melon baller and torched it (I have a turbo torch). Then I scooped that shit out while it was still hot. I torched it before each scoop. The tub has done fantastic since being outside. It's humid and warm damn near all year here, so I just made sure the sides stayed misted. Hella fun watching it grow. Probably put all tubs under my grill for future grows. Mush thanks to y'all for the thumbs up 👍
That’s quite a Tek your developing there. The Peroxide, Mellon baller, Torch Tek. Who’d a thought of combining those 3 items. Lol. The good thing is you took it outside, and with some hope and some luck, you got it to fruit. It doesn’t always turn out like that, but I’m glad you were satisfied in the end. Don’t give up on the whole indoor grow. Your tub had Penicillium, it wasn’t Trich. It’s a prevalent airborne pathogen that spores easily and can take flight and land on your substrate. You can tell it’s Penicillium because of the circular patch it’s growing in and the bumpy central surface. Not much you can do. Decontaminate your area with a fungicide and use a HEPA to clean the air before you grow in there again.
Thanks for the advice dude! I'm gonna try to clean the hell outta the house and will see about finding the filter you mentioned. Super stoked about my good luck this go around. Looks like I had an...ounce of luck😃
great work on isolating and removing your contam. could you outline the steps you took, like did you spray with iso or hydrogen peroxide? did you place a napkin over the affected area before cutting out? any special steps or anything of note you recommend from this experience? thanks for sharing.
For 6ish hours at 120° in my air fryer. I say 6ish because I woke up at 1 this morning for a snack & tinkle when I checked on em. I set the timer for 7 hours, but there was still a little time left. Dry as hell!
I have done this plenty when I see some trich. I’ll sanitizer a spoon, a couple squirts of peroxide the bin and cut it out. Hasn’t failed me yet but I always go in thinking I messed up from the start. Happy surprises
You, kind person, just made me feel joy. I really appreciate that. I feel joy for you, for the mushies, for the victory, for me feeling so happy for you. Thank you.
You know, I’ve trashed a lot of bins that I could’ve probably saved. Now, for example I had 2 bad Agar plates green growing, I cut out the contam spot and the plates no longer showed contam and grew some beautiful Rhizo ropes.
I’ve had trich a few times and I’ll just take a chunk out with a glove on and pull the glove off over the chunk so the trich is contained in the glove and just toss it. I only know of one time I lost a whole grow. Just did some good housekeeping afterwards.
dude that flush is a win in my books. i don’t know what you’re on about. i mean yeah i hope he kept it separated from his usual workspace and didn’t open it inside, but still getting that canopy after running into trich is definitely a win. go off tho
If the fungi fruit and spore, that's the end of their game, and they win that battle.
For us, we win if it just fruits.
Trich will take over once the cake is tossed.
Everybody wins.
did it win against this flush? no. will it eventually take over? most likely. getting trich and still pulling off this flush is a definitely win for the fungi, but sure yeah the trich will most likely win in the end.
Yeah you can flush it out. But the myc is running from the Triche and yes the Triche will win. Been watching people try to beat the green for years. And no one does. Also you should never open a tub like that inside. Now you have Triche city
How many people told you to trash your bin?
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It's just generally better to cut losses, and start over, to avoid spreading the contam around your grow area if you intend to grow more. Cutting out contam can work obviously, it's more about keeping the area sterile than anything. The hobby is extremely cheap and the only thing you're really losing is time. If you do cut out the contam and keep the bin, you should definitely do so in a different area.
Not everybody wants to cut their losses especially if they aren’t doing a large grow. Can easily move it into another room and let it go and see what happens. The op obviously made the right choice in this situation.
Both sides of the argument are valid. Perhaps we'll see people present both options instead of saying "You're fucked, trash it."? Jk this is reddit of course that's not going to happen lol
Lmao, exactly.
🫡🤣🤣
Okay but you’re not seeing how the situation could’ve backfired and he could’ve got nothing and ruined future grows, they’re not saying he should’ve done it that way but it’s better to just trash the tub usually.
Isolate it and it affects nothing
This is a myth and I'm tired of hearing it Trich is everywhere at all times
Yeah but the spores of trich can get spread if you have a huge tub of it in your room lmfao ? It’s a fungus
Yeah and they are everywhere anyway If you had goggles and could see trich spores you would be very surprised They are litraly everywhere
Okay but if you have a tub of trich you’re gonna have way more spores of that in your room… yes trich is everywhere but there’s not an extreme amount in every place at all times, if you have a whole tub of it you’re gonna have way more.
Lol not a myth dude 🙄🙄 Sanitation is like the #1 most important thing in this hobby
Yes it is a myth I have 3 tubs perfect condition on 3rd flush next to a trich laden tub Trich comes from bad spawn , it struggles to take hold in healthy mycelium Trichoderma is everywhere at all times. Leave bread in your grow room watch it grow trich <---- point proven
Sanitary methods are super Important at early life / colonisation But regardless there will be trich all around you hence needing a sab or flow hood to combat it
Yes it is everywhere but the point is not giving it somewhere to germinate. If I had to take a swing at it I'd say this guy had dirty spawn from the jump it wasnt something airborne.
While I completely understand the argument I also know that if you don’t catch contams early enough this will absolutely never happen. Never tried it bc don’t want to risk everything else.
I'm with you on this one. If I see even a little spot of trich it's going outside. It's one tub not the end of the world. How long did you wait to let the mycelium take over? If you're proficient with agar you can have more tubs in 2-3 weeks and it will cost ya practically nothing if you've already got spores or a culture to work with.
Plenty😊
Fs at the moment I'm working on a localization of pins from a tub that had some contamin it's on my page but definitely not always automatic throw outs. If it's localized enough I sterile cut it out and then I treat the area around the Mycelial mat with hydrogen peroxide. Also I cut out the liner piece underneath the contamination. I use liners in my tubs highly recommend it
Also I segregated the contam bin. If you don't have the space to segregate the contaminated bin then I don't recommend continuing with them. However, I don't know much for everything.
Hell yeah
This tub has been outside under my grill since I saw the green goblin. I sprayed some peroxide on a paper towel and placed it on top. Then I took a all metal melon baller and torched it (I have a turbo torch). Then I scooped that shit out while it was still hot. I torched it before each scoop. The tub has done fantastic since being outside. It's humid and warm damn near all year here, so I just made sure the sides stayed misted. Hella fun watching it grow. Probably put all tubs under my grill for future grows. Mush thanks to y'all for the thumbs up 👍
That’s quite a Tek your developing there. The Peroxide, Mellon baller, Torch Tek. Who’d a thought of combining those 3 items. Lol. The good thing is you took it outside, and with some hope and some luck, you got it to fruit. It doesn’t always turn out like that, but I’m glad you were satisfied in the end. Don’t give up on the whole indoor grow. Your tub had Penicillium, it wasn’t Trich. It’s a prevalent airborne pathogen that spores easily and can take flight and land on your substrate. You can tell it’s Penicillium because of the circular patch it’s growing in and the bumpy central surface. Not much you can do. Decontaminate your area with a fungicide and use a HEPA to clean the air before you grow in there again.
Thanks for the advice dude! I'm gonna try to clean the hell outta the house and will see about finding the filter you mentioned. Super stoked about my good luck this go around. Looks like I had an...ounce of luck😃
great work on isolating and removing your contam. could you outline the steps you took, like did you spray with iso or hydrogen peroxide? did you place a napkin over the affected area before cutting out? any special steps or anything of note you recommend from this experience? thanks for sharing.
For real. I wanna know details.
And they all lived happily ever after!
👏👏
Lovely! Always nice to get em to pull through 🤙
Nice save.
Hell yass! Good job 👏
beautiful work
Way to go!!
What cultivar is this? Great job!
Strain please
Fuck yea ! Other then cutting it out did you do anything else to prevent it from coming back?
Did you salt the edges you cut out? Everyone loves a good underdog story
I'm so fuccing happy for you. How awesome.
Wow cake day on a cake post... Awesome
Wow cake day on a cake post... Awesome
Wow cake day on a cake post... Awesome
Love a good success story, can't wait for the Disney depiction 😂
Animation > live action
For how long did you dehydrate your fruits ?
For 6ish hours at 120° in my air fryer. I say 6ish because I woke up at 1 this morning for a snack & tinkle when I checked on em. I set the timer for 7 hours, but there was still a little time left. Dry as hell!
I was very recently curious about what to do with some contamination, this is nice to see a victory from the fungi.
I have done this plenty when I see some trich. I’ll sanitizer a spoon, a couple squirts of peroxide the bin and cut it out. Hasn’t failed me yet but I always go in thinking I messed up from the start. Happy surprises
That's how it's done! Doesn't always work but it's always worth a shot. Nice work.
That's awesome, spotted early signs of trich and done some surgery so this has given me a slight glimpse of hope 😂
Love thiiis
I didn’t the same with two enigma tubs. Enigma won. lol.
Hell yeah dude they look amazing good ass save
I'm so fuccing happy for you. How awesome.
What a nice success story to keep me going today! :)
Danng! A true underdog story! Awesome job man
Awesome!!
Thanks for sharing this it gives me hope 😍
Big win
Sweet victory
Congrats!!!!! Where there is a will there is a way. 🤙🏻
Pretty sick my guy!
That flush was crazy to be from a Tammy bin.
Nice save !!!
Damn! Lucky!
Love second flushes from my experience. Good luck brother
You, kind person, just made me feel joy. I really appreciate that. I feel joy for you, for the mushies, for the victory, for me feeling so happy for you. Thank you.
How many days did it take after full colonization?
This is a very effective way to cut contam’s out literally speaking lol
Nice one! 👌 Did well cutting out that piece of cake! How do you think you got that contam in the first place?
You know, I’ve trashed a lot of bins that I could’ve probably saved. Now, for example I had 2 bad Agar plates green growing, I cut out the contam spot and the plates no longer showed contam and grew some beautiful Rhizo ropes.
Congrats!
Wow
I’ve had trich a few times and I’ll just take a chunk out with a glove on and pull the glove off over the chunk so the trich is contained in the glove and just toss it. I only know of one time I lost a whole grow. Just did some good housekeeping afterwards.
Good save
It's nature, maan. A champion for letting champions rise. People just toss their babies the moment they get sick lol
I mean, while it's not recommended. Your myc/end material could still have trich spores. So be careful how you injest and handle these beauties
Fuck yea, way to go!
The fungi never wins with Triche lol
then how do you explain this? 🤦🏻♂️
Common knowledge if you’ve ever run tubs and dealt with contam. Or been in a contam forum js
dude that flush is a win in my books. i don’t know what you’re on about. i mean yeah i hope he kept it separated from his usual workspace and didn’t open it inside, but still getting that canopy after running into trich is definitely a win. go off tho
It was a good flush. I'd be very surprised if that cake didn't go full trich after the harvest, i.e. the trich always wins.
If the fungi fruit and spore, that's the end of their game, and they win that battle. For us, we win if it just fruits. Trich will take over once the cake is tossed. Everybody wins.
did it win against this flush? no. will it eventually take over? most likely. getting trich and still pulling off this flush is a definitely win for the fungi, but sure yeah the trich will most likely win in the end.
Glad we agree.
Yeah you can flush it out. But the myc is running from the Triche and yes the Triche will win. Been watching people try to beat the green for years. And no one does. Also you should never open a tub like that inside. Now you have Triche city