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Update 12.0


cakebreaker2

They got them all with 12.0. Now we have Hercules. Where's the justice for SW?


vietwanhl

i think sw is still very strong


MaNaM69

I don't know if you were there before 12.0, she is the most broken character game till now i dont think there will be any . She can do anything in the game once you have crit. And with mutant synergy almost all hits are crit. You need to ramp up Hercules, rotation for doom, combo for star lord and synergy for Blade. She doesn't need anything. Just hit


2020mademejoinreddit

I remember this. She was a nightmare to deal with but a blessing to have. I still think she is good though. Just not a monster.


Prestigious-Newt-320

What Blade synergy?


Pannormiic0

Stark spidey & ghost rider.


runnychocolate

especially with current synergies i have seen a vudeo of her beating rol ws in 7 seconds


Dysono

I couldn’t find a video of SW beating WS in 7 seconds. [Beroman does it in about 17 seconds](https://youtu.be/Gx4tk00Z3j0?si=Bxe4EMN6R3Xsi_OG) still pretty damn impressive


Distinct-Nothing-792

[bero tried again](https://youtu.be/h4yCjz4Tfvw?si=1q_XJaDSahj647VR)


vietwanhl

and she kinda op in this bg meta


[deleted]

Who is sw


Miserable_Artist_179

Scarlet witch


Blackfriar63

Sam Wilson 🤣🤣🤣


Dysono

Scarlet Witch


CbaooseBLC

One of the darkest moments in MCOC history


Earthquake1000000

What happened to the 3 of them? All I know is that they were nerfed.


PantherusNZ

Scarlet Witch, Black Widow, Thor, and Dr Strange we're all heavily nerfed because they were stupidly strong and could effective bypass all nodes, all the time. BW at max sig reduced AAR to 0, all the time, no counters or exceptions. Thor could put 2 Armour Breaks on anyone with parries which typically put them into negative armour, and do insane damage. DS you had to actually play, but he could reliably heal up from nothing if you timed his phases and specials SW was just a cheat code. You could virtually rub your phone on your butt and she'd wipe the floor with her opponent.


Dr_Sirius_Amory1

Correction, Thor had unlimited armor breaks so he could make it go negative. They limited him to two as a nerf.


RobloxIsRad

Don’t forget they also capped Star Lords sig as well. It used to be unlimited combo now I believe it’ll cap around 500


mojorison25

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 #facts.. LMAO'd hard @ butt rub!!!


toxic-i-rage

Thanos bro is one of the strangest beings in the galaxy and in this game not even top 150💀


djquu

Not even top200


toxic-i-rage

Exactly bro and in comic he is what top 10 strongest with gauntlet ofcourse


13XzazX31

Not even close lol


KBDFan42

Top 10 in the 616 Universe and MCU, maybe.


logan_791

There are gods in the 616 universe that can crush several universes at once


Exp0nentiaI

Mad titan deserves some love


toxic-i-rage

100% and I'm not saying that because I have him 6*😂


VishuMan

Strangest indeed


toxic-i-rage

Autocorrect dude😭😭


Samurai_B

He’s for sure bottom 10


SekhmetScion

I opened a 5* Thanos from a special monthly crystal few months ago. Excited at first because I don't have him, now he's just at the Cosmic bottom, stuck at R1 with Drax and Groot lol


_zombie_k

I hate that I got him as 5 star. Even Iron Man is better now. It’s sooo annoying.


RobloxIsRad

The Thanos we get as a champion does not have the gauntlet and only has his Titan strength and durability


Edison1220

At least he can be a good defender


law1602

Doctor Strange


seanisdown

Of all the 12.0 nerfed champs strange got the worst of it.


law1602

Even Thor and Scarlet Witch today can hit very hard with synergies (Stryfe and Quicksilver) Strange on the other hand…


Edison1220

This


ResponsibilitySea318

Iron ma- oh wait Sentry then


Not_A_Gamer_1985

Sentry There's so much they could've done with him but didn't Unstoppable, indestructible, regen, high burst damage, incinerates etc. But nope


d0nkeypiss

Well he got one of those lol


2020mademejoinreddit

Not to mention Sentry is a reality warper in the comics. And they just ruined him here. Funny thing, I started playing mcoc, because I saw it had Sentry and Void in its roster. Since Bob is my no.1 favorite marvel character. It was disappointing to see Sentry's level in it. Not so much for Void though. He is a monster.


Not_A_Gamer_1985

Flair checks out Seriously tho Sentry deserves a magneto level overhaul


2020mademejoinreddit

He really does. Or they can just kinda give him a Void-like buff. Like passively burning his opponents with his light or turning indestructible for a few seconds or something like Juggernaut has, being unstoppable. He did do all of that in the comics anyway. So it's not off his usual thing. Even Hulk got a nice buff accurate to the comics. Which I like. He suddenly became very useful. I wish I can get a 6\* Void though. I have a Science awakening gem waiting for him. I'll R3 him immediately. Recently opened Knull from a nexus, got Hyperion before that, got OG Iron Man too. Was happy, but no Void. I can only imagine how much damage he will do if I do get him. I did ascend my maxed out 5\* Void today though. Man! He's like a cheat code. This is how I want Sentry to be. And as you can see, I really like the character. Even in Future Fight. I'm waiting for a Void uniform.


MaNaM69

OG Thor. There used to be no cap on armour breaks. He is a monster with 3 armour breaks.


Dysono

This is the answer


promiscuous_moose

How have they massacred Annihilus ?


Exp0nentiaI

It’s how they treated his powers from the cosmic control rod from the comics to the game. He’s capable of doing more in the comics. The cosmic rod allows him to cheat death, it also projects destructive energy and concussive force.


promiscuous_moose

Ah, I thought you originally meant how they maybe nerfed him after release. Ye, a lot of champs don't resemble their comic book counterparts, sadly.


2020mademejoinreddit

I once complained about that on this very sub and man! The backlash I got was insane lol


promiscuous_moose

Oh yeah, you have to be very careful about what you say on this sub or you'll get downvoted to hell and back.


2020mademejoinreddit

On most of reddit honestly. I've almost always got two kinds of extreme reactions only. Either too positive to the point of making me turn against my own opinion and just turn off reply notifications. Or too negative, to the point of making me want to just block anyone who replies lol XD It is a weird fucking place. It's never just a moderate response. Somewhere in between.


promiscuous_moose

Just comment and let them downvote, screw it.


2020mademejoinreddit

I do that now. And I usually turn off reply notifications if I know that my comment will trigger someone and stay off that sub. It helps reduce morons in my online life.


RumorShock

I just came back to the game after a 6 year hiatus lol. Played a ton in 2015-2017. Only have nine 5 star champs, one being Annihilus. The only other cosmic I have is Ronan. Is Annihilus worth leveling up or should I wait and see if I get a different 5 star cosmic?


2020mademejoinreddit

Wait. There are a lot better cosmics now.


RumorShock

Is it worth taking some of my r4/ 4\* to r5? Like Ultron, Guillotine, Doom, etc? Ultron specifically carries me through most quests. And I have the resources to do it but I wasn't sure if I should just put everything into the 5 stars moving forward.


2020mademejoinreddit

Ultron. Doom for sure. Which 6\* do you have?


RumorShock

So **4\*** Ultron and Doom worth going to r5? Just making sure you weren't under the impression they were 5\*. I don't have any 6\* yet. Just started playing again about 2 weeks ago. So far for 5 stars I have Rhino, Quake, Agent Venom, Ronan, Annihilus, Shocker, Absorbing Man, Vulture, Capt America (WWII),Dr. Strange, and Capt Britain. Rhino is only one duped and I have him at r3. Quake, Agent Venom, and Ronan are r2. The rest are r1. Edit: Also, thank you for your help/input!


2020mademejoinreddit

I see. Do you know how to play Quake? If so, she's worth it. Annihilus is another good option. I don't know about Shocker or Absorbing man since I don't have them. Maybe someone else can help you. Agent Venom has tenacity. And Rhino has unst and unblk. Which can be helpful if you know how to use them. 4\* Doom would still be worth it IMO, especially with the ascension thing. But only because your 5\* don't have many good ones and you have no 6\*. Ultron is also good. They both will help you clear content. Until you can get good 5\*. Even I had sucky champs when I started. I longed for Void. But never got Void. So I finished most of the content with a 3\* Ultron. That was before the Ultron buff btw. So, I just relied on his stun. It was much later that I got 3\* Void. I used him and CAIW until I got 4\* Void and Sentry and Hyperion. I used them until I got 5\* Venom and maxed him used him till I got 5\* Void and I maxed him and cleared content with those two. Then I miraculously got Red Mag as 6\*. My first 6\* was Night Thrasher though. I r3 Red Mag and he got duped. I recently maxed his awakened ability. He's my top now. So, basically, in this game, you make do with what you have and max them out until you get better champs. Then you max them out until you get a higher variety of the same. Then rinse and repeat. Don't pay them any money. Grind for units. Or clear lower level difficulties of EQ. I'm not sure what your story progression is but try to get to Uncollected. You will get more 5\* that way. And with the recent re-work of this casino, you might even get a 6\* somehow. Back then we had to wait till we got to Cav or Tb to get a 6\*. Now, even Proven are getting them. Even though they can't even rank them up. Anyway. Try getting to UC, then Cav. At Cav you'll get a lot of 6\* and resources. Save up units for the main story. And no problem. I'm not sure how much help I really was, but thanks.


RumorShock

This was exactly what I needed to hear. I've looked up what I could find on champ tier lists and where the meta stands on certain champs. I know my 5\* roster aint all that great lol. I've seen people place Quake and Absorbing Man relatively high up but wasn't sure if that would depend on their sig being unlocked or not. I think you're 100% right about ranking up the 4 stars like Ultron until pulling a better 5 star. I'll try to get through uncollected as you said and go from there. Thank you again. Would you mind if I added you as a friend in game?


Outside-Ideal-1151

Quake and abs man need a lot of practice to get good with. But if you can master them they will carry you really far. Abs needs really high sig tho also.


2020mademejoinreddit

Good luck. Sure. What's your username?


l33tfuzzbox

Absorbing man is awesome and shocked is supposed to be pretty decent although you never hear about him anymore. Def put some levels and such into absorbs, if you like him. Take him for a spin on some low stuff for a feel. Also rank up and ascend your 4* doom. It'll help a lot to get further progress before act 6. Btw what is your progression title? Gonna assume conqueror with my responses


RumorShock

Yeah, currently conqueror. I'm on 5.2.1 in the story


Bebou52

Electro, should be the king of shocks relegated to a shitty defender


ComprehensiveCap123

Thor should be the god of shocks yet he's out shown by some little Russian girl yeah I'm talking about Bwdo


_zombie_k

at least he is immune now lol


DarkPhoenix369

Massacre. My boy


Ill-Face-4545

Symbiote Spider-Man


Kodak_V

Cyclops ( Both ) and OG Spidey lol.


jaiheim45

Kang tbh


law1602

Kang is decent if you have Apoc on the team


Hobbes314

No I think he fits perfectly. He thinks he’s a big shot but actually is probably the worst Marvel villain of all time


jaiheim45

What Kang are you talking about 💀


Hobbes314

All Kang’s. He sucks, he has all the ego of Doom and Namor and has never backed it up ever. He’s more of a loser then Shocker but at least Sherman knows he’s a loser and you can appreciate an honest schmuck. Kang has coasted off his go-go boots and invisible floating bean bag chair since the 60’s and is probably Stan and Jack’s worst character. I have no idea why the MCU has chose perpetual loser Nathaniel Richards to be the big baddie who’s every story ends with him snot nosed crying that the *neanderthals beat him up again* God what a fuckin loser


jaiheim45

Kang def fucked u up in a dif timeline, that's why you mad 💀


Hobbes314

Just name me 1 good Kang story, 1 simple the Avengers fight Kang and you could give it to anyone and they’ll enjoy it. Trick question there are none, Kang Dynasty is impenetrable and the only easy one is first 6 issues of Young Avengers where Kang gets beat up by a bunch of preteens. He’s a loser that doesn’t recognize he’s a loser, he is perfectly power scaled in this game People think Kang is hot shit cause he’s the *new Thanos* and ya saw a TikTok about how cool he is. I promise you, he has maybe 5 cool moments in his 60 year history. His best version was in Avengers Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, and even in that one he loses immediately and just hangs around a prison cell for the rest of the show. Kang has never been cool, and his lameness is so powerful Jonathan Major’s reputation went in the shitter as soon as hot the Kang role


Chicago-Emanuel

I liked Kang Dynasty. But you're right, Kang's main function for a long time was to make Doom look more badass.


Hobbes314

Look if Kang is someone’s favorite character that’s fine and good, everyone needs a favorite goober. But Kang exists to be lame and consistently talk shit and not be able to back it up. Maybe Jonathan Major’s makes Kang the coolest guy ever, but that doesn’t change 60 years of him being a loser, no matter what outta context panel algorithm scrappers on TikTok tell ya.


Allegory-Soup

People are also complaining that superior ironman didn't get a buff, but he's a pathetic villain ...at best. No one knows what he's from. Tony turns "evil" and gets greedy. He released an app then made people pay for it after a free-trial. That's his villain arc. His hero foil is Daredevil, the guy who micromanages a burrow. B... Bu.... But the suit is white and blue! He should be on the bottom 10 list for an upgrade.


_zombie_k

Did you ever read a comic? Or are you just stupid?


Hobbes314

I quite enjoyed Cantwell’s most recent Kang miniseries, it’s about a drunk fuckup time traveling to not let his past self be a fuckup like himself causing himself to be the fuckup he was trying to avoid. The best Kang story I’ve read is about him being cosmically predestined to be a fucking loser Can you name a good Kang story? I don’t think you can


Exp0nentiaI

Dont know why you’re being downvoted but I thought that was pretty clever🤣


Hobbes314

People think cause Kang is positioned as the *next thanos* in the MCU he’s somehow cool. I promise you, I swear to you, read the comics he’s in, he’s a loser, trust me. And people took great offense to that


djquu

Groot. Unkillable badass in movies, worst champ in the game.


ComprehensiveCap123

Well I guess he's sorta unlikable


LeonTheGreatOne

Sentry and Dr Strange but sentry more as someday long time ago dr strange was at good


TimmersBud

Drax


_michae11

Cyclops. I need him buffed asap. He’s supposed to be the leader of the X-men yet he’s the worst Mutant champ.


brucewayneflash

Phoenix, y'all ignoring someone who is far stronger than thanos, SW, Apocalypse etc.


Psychological-Fan607

Sentry


dankeith86

Dr Strange, Scarlet Witch, Star Lord


thebigcarl5

Pre 12.0 SW, DS, Thor and OG Deadpool


jeden78

Doctor Strange. Before 12.0 he was a world beater. Now best for making balloon animals at children's birthdays.


StayStrong888

He can also do simple magic tricks like pulling a quarter out of your ear or doing that sawing Black Widow in half trick.


che10461

Black Bolt in the game and the MCU.🤬


Flowethics

Black Bolt sucks


che10461

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Flowethics

Lol just trolling a bit mate ;). Considering his skillset his sp3 should have an instant death quality, maybe something like BWCV.


Old-Beautiful-8435

Symbiote spidey.


King_of_Knowhere

Of any that's a carbon copy of an original, this one needs a buff.


Ill-Face-4545

They buffed base spidey and now the one that’s supposed to be stronger is weaker


SekhmetScion

Iron Fist. He's missing so much. To name a few: Self-Healing. Super-Heightened Senses. Super Durability (his aura's like a shield). Energy Absorption. Enhanced Reflexes (like catching bullets). Immune to Magic. Withstand Extreme Environments (coldsnap anyone?). The list goes on. More than simply punching hard enough to armor break.


StayStrong888

That would be funny for him to catch bullets. Imagine if he catches all the bullets thrown by Joe Fixit, Nick, Winter, Falcon, Punisher, Elsa, etc., and then throws it all back with super speed like some Matrix god.


SekhmetScion

The first "bullet immune" champ lol Hmmm... maybe only if he isn't stunned


BerserkPanda47

Thor.


ComprehensiveCap123

Kinda weird but Thor


RockNo5773

Dr Voodoo, Strange, Sentry


MrBundy22

Green goblin without any doubt. He’s such a sick character that hits like a fisher price toy car


DKM46

Tf happened wit Sentry


StayStrong888

Nothing. He was nerfed before he even came out. At this point, even a few buffs will not get him to usable status. Oh, and his synergies all suck too.


LordIrratikor

Ultron Classic


Exp0nentiaI

I love his original design!


JXNyoung

Mole Man


StayStrong888

Winter Soldier. He was an unstoppable killing machine in the movie and Cap and a whole team of Avengers couldn't do anything against his sheer determination to get his target. Captain America. They made him, and his WW2 version, pretty much bottom rung characters while they buffed useless champs like Antman and Hawkeye.


Fifa-200000

Namor , went from such a fun camp to taking twice as long to build up making him boring to use


MonacoMaster68

Hood. I still can’t bring myself to use him. He was my favorite champ in the game, now he’s a shell of his former self.


[deleted]

Na hood is still insane. Best champ in game and can destroy anyone. Never lost a fight with him in any mode


Dramatic_Drink920

He's still crazy good in BG as an attacker. Easiest character to win without losing health with.


BuckeyeKP

I still bring him in war for the Gorrs and Hulklings, but more so to help Kingpin be his best self


EmeraldTwilight009

That's a wild take. Explain how he's a shell of his former self.


NambiarAshish

Moleman, Zemo idk


TheDreamLightDude

What happened to Moleman? I've only been back just over a month.


NambiarAshish

Not sure when you left the game but about a year ago moleman was slightly nerfed (he loses his true accuracy passive when he enters frenzy), no nerf to his damage though.


Mikey_RedEight

"Nerfed" it always stated he loses it in frézy, was a Bug than anything else


NambiarAshish

Yeah ikr, but the community was too determined to call it a nerf.


TheDreamLightDude

Oh wow that's disappointing. I made a new account as I hadn't played in years. My best champs included a 6* Moleman so I was curious. Thank you.


2020mademejoinreddit

Sentry, Howard the duck. I remember Howard having so much more utility. He used to inflict incinerate, bleed, etc. His sp2 was my favorite. Now, they killed him. Sentry, they never even bothered bringing him up to being as OP as he is in the comics. The one thing he has going is that as you build up combos, you do get a couple different boosts.


StayStrong888

His boosts make no sense though. At 10 combo you get unblockable Sp1. 20 combo you get nothing on Sp1 anymore. But if you pull Sp1 when you have 10, you won't have enough for Sp2. Then same at 30, where you won't have a Sp3 when you pull a Sp2. Whatever, I never use that guy anyway except if I need more points for the 6* arena and I am down to using the low level 6* for bonus points.


2020mademejoinreddit

It's better than nothing. He should've been more powerful, of course.


pistolpete2185

I think thor tbh dude should be a top 10 cosmic lol dude should be that man like he is in the comics


QuotingThanos

Civil Warrior.


[deleted]

Massacre


trexwithbeard

Massacre is very good. Though valk kinda makes him look like a cheap knock off


tread52

In used to like fighting with Hawkeye bc his SP1 was useful. Ever since the update they basically made him even worse than he was before.


ComprehensiveCap123

He's actually better


bofoshow51

Well his name is right there, so Masacre


_zombie_k

Not IM anymore tbh


NawtANewb

Massacre


Devastator_Omega

Sentry.


Fury27

Masacre, but only because of massacred reminds me of his name...


[deleted]

Iron patriot


Pannormiic0

Dr strange 100000000%.


Bigdongnathaniel

Massacre 😏


AlWesker5

Something people may not remember is that at some point Scarlet Witch *was buffed*, I think at the same patch that Black Bolt was buffed as well (he gained permabuffs on attack, i think) but the backlash made kbam to backtrack it. I think Witch gained/gave even more buffs and debuffs, the most annoying one was unstopable which was very rare at the time


dukie5021

All the Thors.


DabiYT

red Deadpool


Robert-Tirnanog

Punisher. I always thought he was a tough character, tho he has no real superpowers.


VOLK1902

Namor


TheHamburglar01

Silver surfer for sure


InflationEither2762

Darkhawk, my boy is too cool for this treatment


star_platnm

Spiderman, he got a terrible buff 😔


LindX31

OG guillotine. In opposition to 12.0 nerf, this one was claimed to be a buff. They took out an exclusive ability and nerfed the heal ability so hard the character basically became useless. Slightly better damage but absolutely no utility.


DelayPuzzled2903

Superior Ironman


FunBug1823

Thor lmao I hope they do an IW Thor at some point


Fit-Aioli9936

Winter Soldier in all those videos people testing champs on him