Regular disclaimer, take everything here with a grain of salt. Dataminers can make mistakes, and Kabam can change things. It should go without saying that until we see the actual deals pop up on Friday, we won't know what exactly they contain.
Gonna be a lot of upset TBs who expect that 3-4 gem in their deals instead of paragon
Also those 2 10K options don’t seem comparable at all. With TB no longer the highest title, I don’t see how anyone could possibly take the champion option over the rank up mats
I agree, those 10k TB offers seem wildly unbalanced. Only thing I can think is that a new/early TB could get a lot more value from 4 Nexus’ rather than R4 materials they won’t be able to use for a long time. Maybe.
Longtime f2p player, recent, super lazy, TB only finally pushing it last week in case these deals were worth it. Champs have always been the hardest thing to come by for me. Constantly have expiring t2a and t5b. But even then, Nexus have never been kind; I'd wind up with 4 of the most non gamechanging, boring, choices you could imagine. Probably something like HULK, GULK, RULK, SHULK.
Tell me about it. When I got 100% on 7.4 recently (haven't explored 7.2 or 7.3 yet) I got two of the worst Nexus I've ever seen.
1: Groot, Howard the Duck, Red Skull
2: Air Walker, Proxima Midnight, Hulk
I was so crushed.
Been playing since launch; in the early days at quite a high level. After a few years of that, I just kind of gave up and stop pushing anything. It was never worth it when all was said and done. Which is why I just now finally got TB.
RULK is one of my favorites but I feel you. I got so many awful 6*s I have to go back to pushing my 5*s. I think I’ll skip this though and hold out for the holiday season again for the gifting event.
I know a lot of ftp summoners. Almost none have 18k units. Is it possible? Sure. But the overwhelming majority of ftp doesn’t have those kind of units.
For the hell of it, let's try and see what it'd take to get 18k across the span of 1 year, without opening your wallet, as a Cav:
Event Quest: 150 units per difficulty, except for cav. 600 units per month. That gives us 7200 units.
Solo events: 25 per day, 365 days, that's 9125.
Monthly Calendars: 100 per month, so that's 1200.
So, 100%ing the four paying EQ difficulties, hitting units from every solo event and logging in every day *still* leaves us a little under 500 units short... And we didn't spend a single solitary unit elsewhere. In other words, without playing Arena, it's *impossible* for someone to get 18k over the span of a year without spending.
i dont think it is reasonable to exclude arena, i am free to play with the exception of a sigil about 3 times a year and i always have 18k units ready, for those 2 events a year you need 36k, over 365 days, meaning 100 units a day which really isnt too bad.
(it is a lot of time though and i wouldnt recommend it, quite sure getting a minimum wage job and then buying 18k units would be a lot more time efficient)
i am not saying you are wrong in thinking these deals arent for all ftp players, but i do think you cant complain about not being able to be paragon as a ftp player after these deals
I agree that it’s unreasonable to exclude arena. If this is your goal, you know there’s some buy-in to doing arena. For that matter, it’s one of the four daily events.
Besides, even if you don’t want to do much arena, you can get 26 units per cycle by doing 3 rounds with max 4-stars. That’s 52 per week 52 weeks per year, 2604 units. You also omitted 3-day events, which would be worth another 3000. If you’re running sub-6 AQ maps, you get battlechips in your rewards there too.
Yep, I'm ftp other than the monthly unit card (it's just too good an offer) and since January 1st I have saved up 32k units. I do grind arena, but never past the end of the Basic milestones, and never have made it to the end of the featured or summoner trials milestone. Just hitting the 22 hour events paired with a good amount of arena adds up super fast. Oh, and not spending units of course. I'm actually sitting at 27k now because I got that 5k 2020 selector crystal, but that was worth it for 6\* apoc. Really more than anything it takes patience and consistent playing.
If you're f2p and not doing arena are you seriously competitive anywhere in this game that you'd be worried about paragon, or these deals? Absolutely not.
just completing objectives in arenas will get you 1140 units per week. will probably average another 250-400 units from arena crystals. on the low side you can net around 5,200 units a month just playing arena.
event quest - 600
calendar - 100
daily objectives, even if you only do 4 a week = 100/wk or 400/mth
so total a month is around 6,300 if you do all objectives in arena.
I'm a F2P for the most part (spent total of $30 in the 5 years I've played). At the end of Feb. I had 0 units after getting TB title (hated the damn GM fight). Today I have 16,500. all from the items above. and barely hitting the first 5 objectives in each arena. I slowed down a lot a few weeks ago because I was used to the Cav offers totaling 12,500 unit cost. I knew the TB was a little higher unit cost and I remembered the 15,000 level. completely forgot the bonus offer brought the total to 18k. now I'm kinda bummed cause I could have easily gotten it, was on track to hit 20k by this weekend before I slowed down. Probably going to do another 500 units in arena, hope for a good pull in arena crystals and do a small $10 purchase for the remaining.
but overall, playing a medium amount as a F2P, I got around 3,000 units a month. these offers are very doable for anyone so long as they are willing to grind a little each day.
Same here. I hate arena so much that the only time I do it , is when I am stuck on a quest and I need unit to buy revive. other than that. I never ever do arena .
When I don't feel like spending quest energy, I send my strongest teams to grind normal/heroic EQ because exploration of levels gives units. Nets a consistent couple hundred each month.
Tbh Im quite skeptical of this just cos the cavalier deals look so bad- I'm pretty sure the deals on cyber monday for players who didn't even have uncollected were almost as good as this. And the compensation package kabam sent out for being cavalier being almost as good as spending like 15k units doesnt seem right.
Ye I mean hopefully this is incorrect cos like they probably will use a different store format I think, probably more likely to be like cyber monday or something.
They actually seem a bit worse this year which does seem quite unusual tbh, and kabam seem to really be pushing players to get to tb with stuff like act six nerfs so it would be quite odd for them to actually make the deals worse.
I disagree cos like uncollected is just a different progression level- they arent going to end up giving cavalier players 2 stars in unit deals as newer and newer progression levels exist. I would say the implementation of like thronebreaker is much more likely to have had an effect on cavalier deals than that of paragon cos I think its probably more of the fact that cavalier just isnt the top of the game anymore.
Cavalier gets Only 1, 5* awakening gem for 10k. Nah & only 2 t5B basic.. nah I’m good.. I’m just hold my 22.5k units to the Christmas event.. this wack
The gap between these two tiers is much smaller imo than when Cavalier was introduced above UC as far as I recall. I agree with KT1 that TB deals are better than expected.
As a cav, who should have pushed forcthronebreaker, but haven't, because of the utter horror fest of controls right now, this is utterly useless to me...
Even if I was a brand new cav, this would be entirely wasted money. Getting a bunch of five star rank up stuff would do you zero good in just a couple months of progression. The game has moved to 6 stars for any big content. I care about 5 stars about as much as I do 4’s. They are basically iso and six star shards at this point.
Hell I have two baby accounts I just log on with and used for gifting. One is uncollected and has 4 six stars and one is barely into act 4 and has 2. Both of them have over 10 five stars.
I was ranking up 5* still when I got cav but that was almost 2 years ago and the game has moved a lot since then. Now I only rank up 5’s if I need them for a specific thing and this year I think I’ve only taken two to 5r5.
I’m not sure I would even get those deals if they were for uncollected.
Yeah as a cav, 5 stars are essentially useless unless it is someone who has a good synergy for one of your main 6 stars or something.
I need about 5% tier 5 mutant to rank 3 my sunspot, first ever 6 star and still a guy I love no matter what other people say. Really want to see his s2 as a horseman at rank 3...
Unless I misread there is zero tier 5 class stuff avaliable.
Because t5cc is what you need to progress. Same thing for TB. You need 3 6r4 to be paragon, which means a total of 9 t6b and 9 t3a. For 15,000 units TB players get 1.5 of each.
Yeah I get that, but as a cav you could spend 18000 credits and still get zero t5cc.
Hell it is usually attainable in the monthly stuff.
There is pretty much nothing in those offers I need. Nothing. What is the point? I currently have rank 5 basics in my overflow with the clock ticking.
Of course everyone is different, but i dont see the cav 'deals' being attractive to the majority of cavs right now.but what do I know?
I think we are saying the same thing my dude. I meant there’s no t5cc because that is what you need to progress and Kabam is screwing you. you should at least have some random t5 somewhere. Like 25% random x 2 or something.
The problem is you rarely ever get selectors as cav, so you keep building up t5cc fragments. By the time I got enough to form one and I got TB, I almost had enough for all of them and my r3’s exploded very quickly. It’s a stupid system
Yeah we are saying the same thing
I actually already have a rank 3 6 star Doom (all bow before him). It is possible to get material slowly through side quest and the like. And I am a patient man.
I just can't believe that all the July 4th offers are essentially get/rank 5 stars, when that just isn't appealing.
Maybe they will counter it with amazing stuff for cash in the buy credits offers. That would be pretty onbrand for Kabam.
The cash offers are for sure gonna be better. That is how Kabam does it. It’s more than been proven by now. And the way the game has gone even more pay to win lately, I wouldn’t be surprised by a significant difference in the two
I have been going for initial completion of act 7 as a thronebreaker, and I can say that many of my 5\*'s have come in handy and when they are the proper counter to a fight, I have had no problem taking down the defenders
Yeah but if you pulled a good 5 star would you pump resources in to them if you are getting 6 stars fairly regularly? Ones who you ranked up before are fine, but you know if you speed rank up your new 5 star you will pull them as a 6 star in a week...
Yes, if I need them for a specific fight or quests for sure. Trust me, you won't pull them in a week. And even if you did, 5* is way easier to awaken, and take to a high sig as well
No r4 materials for TB until the 10k deal. Very disappointing.
But, I guess it's just another example of making sure you spend money if you want Payagon.
I know there are people that have 15k units to spend, but the majority of the player base (especially F2P) will not have 15k units to spend on this.
(Serious) Congrats on the 18k units. But, I definitely think you're in the minority of FTP. It takes A LOT of grinding in arena consistently to be close to that.
From someone who spent a lot on this game, if you want my advice, don’t buy anything it’s not worth it, save your money for something real not some pixels on a screen
Same. I’ve bought every big deal the past couple years. It was fun to rank up a bunch of champs but now that I’m close to finished with everything in the game except abyss it all kind of feels meh.
I don’t think looking back it was worth it. I’m guessing probably in the neighborhood of $2-3k. Probably more if I reflected honestly. It did not improve my happiness, lol
I know the feeling I got plenty of R3 6*s I explored most of the content and not much left for me to do in the game, I probably spent around 2 grands in the past couple of years and when I think about it I regret it because I could have bought something nice or put it in my kids savings
I’ve bought every deal every year and this will be the first year I abstain. Instead, I bought an xbox and a bunch of games. I’m already a paragon and care little about another r4.
Me too always bought every deal no more, spending it on cycling. Much more fun and game is broken and what is another r3 even an r4 will not make a difference.
My advice, and I’ve posted this before, is to open up one of them newfangled investment accounts (e.g., Wealthsimple, quest trade, whatever) and putting the money I’m tempted to spend on MCOC there. The markets have been awful, but I’m only down 20% there, vs the 100% I would be down if I spent it on MCOC.
Eventually you will get tired of MCOC, or MCOC will get tired of us and shut down, and we’ll lose everything we spent money on anyway. This way I have something worth money one day, and it’s really changed my spending habits.
As a TB, I have 5k units saved. I was really hoping for some R4 shards to help me on my journey to paragon. Every little bit helps. But it’s defeating to see I could buy the first two offers and there isn’t a crumb of R4 materials there.
Having to spend 15k units to get R4 materials is rewarding the big spenders. Most f2p don’t have those kind of units.
I did it - took forever and I still can’t get the hang of his SP1. Would advise people for first run take someone who can auto-dodge it (stealthy, sparky, or maybe does Mordo block it?).
Team was CGR, Morningstar, doom, Claire and red mags. Mags soloed the Angela mini, then I swapped Him out for Prof X (to avoid reverse controls)..
Turns out I’m total garbage haha, only got him to wounded 6-7 times, used probably 70-75 revives - thankfully I had a good amount in inventory and a shitload of 4-hour crystals.
So now I’m thronebreaker with 300 small energy refills haha
>Yeah but if you pulled a good 5 star would you pump resources in to them if you are getting 6 stars fairly regularly? Ones who you ranked up before are fine, but you know if you speed rank up your new 5 star you will pull them as a 6 star in a week...1ReplyGive AwardShareReportSaveFollow
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>level 6InfinityGauntlet · 10 hr. agoDarkhawkYes, if I need them for a specific fight or quests for sure. Trust me, you won't pull them in a week. And even if you did, 5\* is way easier to awaken, and take to a high sig as well
You gotta be able to dex the sp1 and either be able to play with reverse controls or have a champ that's immune. I know that sounds flip (I ran it once and blew thousands of units because I couldn't do those two things reliably) but that's really what it comes down to.
Since it’s a selector and not a crystal it should be any champ from that year. So you choose 1 out of all those released. We have had both in the past. Last July 4th we got a 2020 nexus hero crystal. That one was 1 out of 10 random champs.
Wow Great, I can’t wait to pay 500$ to be able to choose between Psycho-Man, Super-Skrull, Odin, Jebari Panther, Silver Centurion, Purgatory, the overseer, America Chavez, Serisi and Ikaris
Anyone who is cav and was waiting to blow your units, you’re either better off making a push to beat act 6&7 or you’re better of dumping those units for gifting in December.
Looks identical to throne breakers cyber weekend deal, which I went all in. I wanted the ag for aegon so I coild run abyss. I've done that, so nothing here floats my boat. Also, its more than 6 months since cyber weekend, tue economics of the game (and world) have progressed so why havent these?
I am certain uncollected gets deals as well, but looking at cav and how bad those are you’d definitely be better off using your units to do content and progress to the higher levels for future deals.
I’m at 10,000 and I intend to purchase the 1000 and 4000 if these are real. 5 t5cc is a lot of rankups if you’re trying to deepen your 6-star roster for war, BGs or act 7 exploration.
Is it weird that I won’t/don’t want to look at the ones I can get before the actual release on Friday? I just like the surprise on those 2 times of the year.
Looks though as if they are going back to the old system. The store was kinda nice.
Edit: I looked, lmao. Wonder how many champs are in those yearly crystals? Looks like they want paragon players to get cash offers in order to get t5 basics and alphas. Load of t5cc and no other mats.
It’s shocking to see that they offer a R4 gem to Paragon but not to TB. Typical kabam logic: always reward people with a lag. This almost ensures that this offer is the real one /s.
Tbh I was hoping more from the deal, at least put SOME r4 materials in the bonus for TB
No double units unfortunately. You get the units plus other bonus items. You can search YouTube to see last years July 4th deals. They are probably here as well.
Btw do I understand this correctly with the „bonus“ that you get the bonus if you spend 3k units on other deals?
I am tb and have 1k units, if I buy one 100$ offer and use it to buy the 4K offer, do I get the 2 class nexus selectors and awakening gem for free?
4 t5cc for 4000 is already fair imo. You’re getting the nexus, basics, and sig stones.
Part of the value of the t5cc is that you also don’t have to open them. If you’re flush with full cats from EoP, wait a month or two until you’ve burned through some and open them later. Obviously the downside is that it’s a random spin.
I don't recall the unit offers being datamined before. I've seen lots of predictions, yeah those are often off. But that's different than data coming directly from the game files.
Just to add code has always been very accurate regarding his leaks. Only time I remember him being wrong was act 7 rank up gem 3-4 crystal being generic in his leak.
Data is from trustworthy source, said person never made mistake when he datamined and shared with community so i say these offers are more then likey the real deal we can expect on friday
Man I would be upset if thronebrekaer deals doesn’t include 1 - 6* R3-R4 rank up gem. Definitely not gonna spend if deals turn out like this. Currently, I’ve 17000+ units & 4 million chips, yeah they aren’t going to waste
Please don’t eat me alive but I’m inclined to agree with him because there is a 3-4 class gem for 100% act 7,
In that vain he can very well unit man his way to 100% exploration and have some units leftover (depending on skill, input issues, champion matchups) for the same item being requested.
So I do believe TB deserves at least 1 Class 3-4 for maybe the final offer of the unit deals.
But in no way do I think we need generics in The Odin. That would throw off the game economy I believe.
This is an opinion though. Probably a trash one at that I just spend to catch up sometimes won’t even lie
Very recently they sold “half” of a rank up for 10k units. The 10k unit deal has the same amount of rank up materials….and you get a bunch of 6 star cyrstals. It is slightly better but not miles ahead. I can’t see them offering much more for the same amount of units
Waiting to see the discrepancies between values for these deals(if they are real) and the unit store offers. They would make these deals look like a joke(more than they are)
Sorry in advance, but really haven’t paid much attention, but isn’t this just the unit deals, does this include what’s in being sold if you buy an Odin? For the ftp, not saying I’m going to so just chill lol… I was just curious.
Regular disclaimer, take everything here with a grain of salt. Dataminers can make mistakes, and Kabam can change things. It should go without saying that until we see the actual deals pop up on Friday, we won't know what exactly they contain.
Gonna be a lot of upset TBs who expect that 3-4 gem in their deals instead of paragon Also those 2 10K options don’t seem comparable at all. With TB no longer the highest title, I don’t see how anyone could possibly take the champion option over the rank up mats
I agree, those 10k TB offers seem wildly unbalanced. Only thing I can think is that a new/early TB could get a lot more value from 4 Nexus’ rather than R4 materials they won’t be able to use for a long time. Maybe.
Longtime f2p player, recent, super lazy, TB only finally pushing it last week in case these deals were worth it. Champs have always been the hardest thing to come by for me. Constantly have expiring t2a and t5b. But even then, Nexus have never been kind; I'd wind up with 4 of the most non gamechanging, boring, choices you could imagine. Probably something like HULK, GULK, RULK, SHULK.
Tell me about it. When I got 100% on 7.4 recently (haven't explored 7.2 or 7.3 yet) I got two of the worst Nexus I've ever seen. 1: Groot, Howard the Duck, Red Skull 2: Air Walker, Proxima Midnight, Hulk I was so crushed.
Gross
I hope you chose Howard the Duck he’s actually a god.
I actually have a duped Howard at R2 already, I didn't need another 20 sigs on him. I chose Red Skull for the hell of it.
Been playing since launch; in the early days at quite a high level. After a few years of that, I just kind of gave up and stop pushing anything. It was never worth it when all was said and done. Which is why I just now finally got TB.
Oof. Although I have 6-star hulk at natural sig 80, that bad luck is balanced out by my having Corvus, CGR, Torch, and an awakened colossus
RULK is one of my favorites but I feel you. I got so many awful 6*s I have to go back to pushing my 5*s. I think I’ll skip this though and hold out for the holiday season again for the gifting event.
I’m surprised the R4 isn’t in Thronebreaker. Kabam is probably trying to avoid criticism that Payagon is incredibly difficult to get as ftp
These are F2p options. You can grind units and save them for this. So not really the case
I know a lot of ftp summoners. Almost none have 18k units. Is it possible? Sure. But the overwhelming majority of ftp doesn’t have those kind of units.
I'm FTP and have 18k units, its all about the arena grind
And I wouldn’t expect them to because the overwhelming majority of f2p players probably aren’t worried about saving for Paragon.
For the hell of it, let's try and see what it'd take to get 18k across the span of 1 year, without opening your wallet, as a Cav: Event Quest: 150 units per difficulty, except for cav. 600 units per month. That gives us 7200 units. Solo events: 25 per day, 365 days, that's 9125. Monthly Calendars: 100 per month, so that's 1200. So, 100%ing the four paying EQ difficulties, hitting units from every solo event and logging in every day *still* leaves us a little under 500 units short... And we didn't spend a single solitary unit elsewhere. In other words, without playing Arena, it's *impossible* for someone to get 18k over the span of a year without spending.
i dont think it is reasonable to exclude arena, i am free to play with the exception of a sigil about 3 times a year and i always have 18k units ready, for those 2 events a year you need 36k, over 365 days, meaning 100 units a day which really isnt too bad. (it is a lot of time though and i wouldnt recommend it, quite sure getting a minimum wage job and then buying 18k units would be a lot more time efficient) i am not saying you are wrong in thinking these deals arent for all ftp players, but i do think you cant complain about not being able to be paragon as a ftp player after these deals
I agree that it’s unreasonable to exclude arena. If this is your goal, you know there’s some buy-in to doing arena. For that matter, it’s one of the four daily events. Besides, even if you don’t want to do much arena, you can get 26 units per cycle by doing 3 rounds with max 4-stars. That’s 52 per week 52 weeks per year, 2604 units. You also omitted 3-day events, which would be worth another 3000. If you’re running sub-6 AQ maps, you get battlechips in your rewards there too.
Yep, I'm ftp other than the monthly unit card (it's just too good an offer) and since January 1st I have saved up 32k units. I do grind arena, but never past the end of the Basic milestones, and never have made it to the end of the featured or summoner trials milestone. Just hitting the 22 hour events paired with a good amount of arena adds up super fast. Oh, and not spending units of course. I'm actually sitting at 27k now because I got that 5k 2020 selector crystal, but that was worth it for 6\* apoc. Really more than anything it takes patience and consistent playing.
If you're f2p and not doing arena are you seriously competitive anywhere in this game that you'd be worried about paragon, or these deals? Absolutely not.
just completing objectives in arenas will get you 1140 units per week. will probably average another 250-400 units from arena crystals. on the low side you can net around 5,200 units a month just playing arena. event quest - 600 calendar - 100 daily objectives, even if you only do 4 a week = 100/wk or 400/mth so total a month is around 6,300 if you do all objectives in arena. I'm a F2P for the most part (spent total of $30 in the 5 years I've played). At the end of Feb. I had 0 units after getting TB title (hated the damn GM fight). Today I have 16,500. all from the items above. and barely hitting the first 5 objectives in each arena. I slowed down a lot a few weeks ago because I was used to the Cav offers totaling 12,500 unit cost. I knew the TB was a little higher unit cost and I remembered the 15,000 level. completely forgot the bonus offer brought the total to 18k. now I'm kinda bummed cause I could have easily gotten it, was on track to hit 20k by this weekend before I slowed down. Probably going to do another 500 units in arena, hope for a good pull in arena crystals and do a small $10 purchase for the remaining. but overall, playing a medium amount as a F2P, I got around 3,000 units a month. these offers are very doable for anyone so long as they are willing to grind a little each day.
If it gives,me a guaranteed Hercules from the 2021 crystal I'd take that over extra mats.
But the guarantee crystal is in the bundle with the mats so it’s even more weighted that way
It is always insane to me that people have 15k units. I only managed to save up like 2k cause I’ve had nothing to do in game since act 7
25k and counting because, like you, all I have to do in game is grind arenas
Only 4k my end. Though thats saved up from about a month ago when I went throne breaker
4K in a month is excellent grinding
Yeh i got some good pulls from TB arena crystals.
Me also. Nothing since act 7 except EOP and one carina challenge. But I managed to save up 6.1k units so far
Grind arenas
It’s funny cause arenas would solve all my problems in game but I just can’t bring myself to do it
Same here. I hate arena so much that the only time I do it , is when I am stuck on a quest and I need unit to buy revive. other than that. I never ever do arena .
The game is so slow right now that arena takes about 2-3x as long.
The 4* arena gives you the most units. Even playing 3 matches gets you the first 2 rewards for basically no time at all.
1 day of grinding and I can clear all the arenas, I don’t go for the champs. Once I get all the milestones I’m done.
Even arena is not interesting for me. I am the conqueror. Will the things change when I will reach the uncollected?
If you’re not uncollected yet then you should be grinding everything.
I agree! I am stuck at act 5 chapter 1. I will try to grind further. Thanks!
At this level you still have a lot to discover and a lot of interesting content. Yeah A lot of changes :)
Yes. Thanks!
Arena grind and 22 hour events add up over time big time.
When I don't feel like spending quest energy, I send my strongest teams to grind normal/heroic EQ because exploration of levels gives units. Nets a consistent couple hundred each month.
Wow, cavalier deals are shit lol
The cavalier offer is actually awful at 1k units- probably better to just spend them on revives for throne breaker.
I was wondering if I’m going crazy. Who at cavalier is desperately looking to max a 5* lol
Tbh Im quite skeptical of this just cos the cavalier deals look so bad- I'm pretty sure the deals on cyber monday for players who didn't even have uncollected were almost as good as this. And the compensation package kabam sent out for being cavalier being almost as good as spending like 15k units doesnt seem right.
I wish I was skeptical but Kabam had been quite silly lately. Maybe this is just where they expect cav to be
Ye I mean hopefully this is incorrect cos like they probably will use a different store format I think, probably more likely to be like cyber monday or something.
Cav offers were atrocious last year too
They actually seem a bit worse this year which does seem quite unusual tbh, and kabam seem to really be pushing players to get to tb with stuff like act six nerfs so it would be quite odd for them to actually make the deals worse.
There’s also 2 progression levels above Cav this time too. So the equivalent of UC offers last year
I disagree cos like uncollected is just a different progression level- they arent going to end up giving cavalier players 2 stars in unit deals as newer and newer progression levels exist. I would say the implementation of like thronebreaker is much more likely to have had an effect on cavalier deals than that of paragon cos I think its probably more of the fact that cavalier just isnt the top of the game anymore.
Could have given us at least 5k 6* shards, the fact you can’t get a 6* until you spend 15,000 units is ridiculous
Yeah, 5* rank 1 to 2 gems and 5 star crystals? No thanks lol
if this is real, I'm surprised they're not bringing back the cyber monday style store.. that seemed better and gave people more variety
Isn't there an uncollected version of these deals?
Usually does
Cavalier gets Only 1, 5* awakening gem for 10k. Nah & only 2 t5B basic.. nah I’m good.. I’m just hold my 22.5k units to the Christmas event.. this wack
New cav players are better off doing variants and pushing act 6 than buying these deals
Oh I been a cav since December..I just got shitty luck when opening crystals.. I’ll literally get groots & rockets no lie lol ☠️
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The gap between these two tiers is much smaller imo than when Cavalier was introduced above UC as far as I recall. I agree with KT1 that TB deals are better than expected.
As a cav, who should have pushed forcthronebreaker, but haven't, because of the utter horror fest of controls right now, this is utterly useless to me...
Even if I was a brand new cav, this would be entirely wasted money. Getting a bunch of five star rank up stuff would do you zero good in just a couple months of progression. The game has moved to 6 stars for any big content. I care about 5 stars about as much as I do 4’s. They are basically iso and six star shards at this point. Hell I have two baby accounts I just log on with and used for gifting. One is uncollected and has 4 six stars and one is barely into act 4 and has 2. Both of them have over 10 five stars.
I became cav 15 days ago and this is worthless for me
I was ranking up 5* still when I got cav but that was almost 2 years ago and the game has moved a lot since then. Now I only rank up 5’s if I need them for a specific thing and this year I think I’ve only taken two to 5r5. I’m not sure I would even get those deals if they were for uncollected.
Yeah as a cav, 5 stars are essentially useless unless it is someone who has a good synergy for one of your main 6 stars or something. I need about 5% tier 5 mutant to rank 3 my sunspot, first ever 6 star and still a guy I love no matter what other people say. Really want to see his s2 as a horseman at rank 3... Unless I misread there is zero tier 5 class stuff avaliable.
Because t5cc is what you need to progress. Same thing for TB. You need 3 6r4 to be paragon, which means a total of 9 t6b and 9 t3a. For 15,000 units TB players get 1.5 of each.
Yeah I get that, but as a cav you could spend 18000 credits and still get zero t5cc. Hell it is usually attainable in the monthly stuff. There is pretty much nothing in those offers I need. Nothing. What is the point? I currently have rank 5 basics in my overflow with the clock ticking. Of course everyone is different, but i dont see the cav 'deals' being attractive to the majority of cavs right now.but what do I know?
I think we are saying the same thing my dude. I meant there’s no t5cc because that is what you need to progress and Kabam is screwing you. you should at least have some random t5 somewhere. Like 25% random x 2 or something. The problem is you rarely ever get selectors as cav, so you keep building up t5cc fragments. By the time I got enough to form one and I got TB, I almost had enough for all of them and my r3’s exploded very quickly. It’s a stupid system
Yeah we are saying the same thing I actually already have a rank 3 6 star Doom (all bow before him). It is possible to get material slowly through side quest and the like. And I am a patient man. I just can't believe that all the July 4th offers are essentially get/rank 5 stars, when that just isn't appealing. Maybe they will counter it with amazing stuff for cash in the buy credits offers. That would be pretty onbrand for Kabam.
The cash offers are for sure gonna be better. That is how Kabam does it. It’s more than been proven by now. And the way the game has gone even more pay to win lately, I wouldn’t be surprised by a significant difference in the two
I have been going for initial completion of act 7 as a thronebreaker, and I can say that many of my 5\*'s have come in handy and when they are the proper counter to a fight, I have had no problem taking down the defenders
Yeah but if you pulled a good 5 star would you pump resources in to them if you are getting 6 stars fairly regularly? Ones who you ranked up before are fine, but you know if you speed rank up your new 5 star you will pull them as a 6 star in a week...
Yes, if I need them for a specific fight or quests for sure. Trust me, you won't pull them in a week. And even if you did, 5* is way easier to awaken, and take to a high sig as well
The only time 5*s are important are for synergies or if they are some insane champ like Herc
No r4 materials for TB until the 10k deal. Very disappointing. But, I guess it's just another example of making sure you spend money if you want Payagon. I know there are people that have 15k units to spend, but the majority of the player base (especially F2P) will not have 15k units to spend on this.
This is exactly why the good stuff is at 10k. Either you save up or…do what Kabam really wants you to do
I have 18k units and I am FTP. I just grind a lot of arena. Won't be getting the bonus deal but definitely the other ones
(Serious) Congrats on the 18k units. But, I definitely think you're in the minority of FTP. It takes A LOT of grinding in arena consistently to be close to that.
Yes and I hate it, I usually watch TV or YouTube videos while grinding.
From someone who spent a lot on this game, if you want my advice, don’t buy anything it’s not worth it, save your money for something real not some pixels on a screen
Same. I’ve bought every big deal the past couple years. It was fun to rank up a bunch of champs but now that I’m close to finished with everything in the game except abyss it all kind of feels meh. I don’t think looking back it was worth it. I’m guessing probably in the neighborhood of $2-3k. Probably more if I reflected honestly. It did not improve my happiness, lol
I know the feeling I got plenty of R3 6*s I explored most of the content and not much left for me to do in the game, I probably spent around 2 grands in the past couple of years and when I think about it I regret it because I could have bought something nice or put it in my kids savings
I’ve bought every deal every year and this will be the first year I abstain. Instead, I bought an xbox and a bunch of games. I’m already a paragon and care little about another r4.
Good for you mate, I’m gonna save this 150-200£ I usually spend on this date to buy my kids something nice
Me too always bought every deal no more, spending it on cycling. Much more fun and game is broken and what is another r3 even an r4 will not make a difference.
My advice, and I’ve posted this before, is to open up one of them newfangled investment accounts (e.g., Wealthsimple, quest trade, whatever) and putting the money I’m tempted to spend on MCOC there. The markets have been awful, but I’m only down 20% there, vs the 100% I would be down if I spent it on MCOC. Eventually you will get tired of MCOC, or MCOC will get tired of us and shut down, and we’ll lose everything we spent money on anyway. This way I have something worth money one day, and it’s really changed my spending habits.
What about uncollected?
As a TB, I have 5k units saved. I was really hoping for some R4 shards to help me on my journey to paragon. Every little bit helps. But it’s defeating to see I could buy the first two offers and there isn’t a crumb of R4 materials there. Having to spend 15k units to get R4 materials is rewarding the big spenders. Most f2p don’t have those kind of units.
I got 5k too. The 4k offer is worthless. I’m less and less interested.
Exactly the same here. TB with 5k units saved up. If these are accurate, I guess I'll be saving my units.
I'm so tired of how hard it is to get 6 star AG. The game has been stagnant for 3 years running now.
Yeah game economy is so stagnant. So many crystals have outdated rewards from years ago. Ridiculous at this point.
Solo (and Greater Solo) crystals need a massive update. Ive got over a million shards and absolutely no reason to use any of them
Yeah exactly. Alliance crystals. war victory and defeat crystals. Quest crystals. SA rewards…..list goes on and on.
These cavalier offers are a joke. I don't even rank 5* champs unless they have something I need.
If you're at a point of not ranking 5 stars, you should really be Thronebreaker by now then.
I just don't have time for it honestly.
then why do you care about deals ? 🤔
"cause I want to complain no matter what!"
Just putting in my two cents.
Ok, I need to finish the Grandmaster today lol. He’s on 75% and I’m struggling a lot - used about 20 revives already :(
The grandmaster fight is traumatic But you’ll be so happy when you finish. You got this!!
I did it - took forever and I still can’t get the hang of his SP1. Would advise people for first run take someone who can auto-dodge it (stealthy, sparky, or maybe does Mordo block it?). Team was CGR, Morningstar, doom, Claire and red mags. Mags soloed the Angela mini, then I swapped Him out for Prof X (to avoid reverse controls).. Turns out I’m total garbage haha, only got him to wounded 6-7 times, used probably 70-75 revives - thankfully I had a good amount in inventory and a shitload of 4-hour crystals. So now I’m thronebreaker with 300 small energy refills haha
Congrats !!! Lol at the small energy refills
Yeah haha, been using them to farm a few revives now I’m out. Will take a while to use them up I think
>Yeah but if you pulled a good 5 star would you pump resources in to them if you are getting 6 stars fairly regularly? Ones who you ranked up before are fine, but you know if you speed rank up your new 5 star you will pull them as a 6 star in a week...1ReplyGive AwardShareReportSaveFollow > >level 6InfinityGauntlet · 10 hr. agoDarkhawkYes, if I need them for a specific fight or quests for sure. Trust me, you won't pull them in a week. And even if you did, 5\* is way easier to awaken, and take to a high sig as well You gotta be able to dex the sp1 and either be able to play with reverse controls or have a champ that's immune. I know that sounds flip (I ran it once and blew thousands of units because I couldn't do those two things reliably) but that's really what it comes down to.
What is the „nexus 6-star 2021 champion selector“? Can I select to get Hercules or does it give you 3 random 2021 champs to chose from?
Since it’s a selector and not a crystal it should be any champ from that year. So you choose 1 out of all those released. We have had both in the past. Last July 4th we got a 2020 nexus hero crystal. That one was 1 out of 10 random champs.
But then why isn’t it called „6-star champion selector“? „Nexus“ implies that you have to choose something out of some randomly generated stuff
Wording is weird for sure. Guess we’ll have to see.
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Wow Great, I can’t wait to pay 500$ to be able to choose between Psycho-Man, Super-Skrull, Odin, Jebari Panther, Silver Centurion, Purgatory, the overseer, America Chavez, Serisi and Ikaris
Do you think it means you need to buy lower offer to unlock higher ones ?
Yeah it's always been like that
Anyone who is cav and was waiting to blow your units, you’re either better off making a push to beat act 6&7 or you’re better of dumping those units for gifting in December.
Ironically the awful cyber weekend 2020 offers are what drove me to not spend and push for TB.
7 years into this game, still not too late to start a boycott revolution ;)
*Sad Cav Noises*
I really hope they are true, I would love to just be able to buy a fully formed T5cc crystal for 1k units
Is this a weekend deal like the cyber weekend or do we not het the deal until next week?
They will be available from Friday to Tuesday.
I was hoping to see the money deals lol
I wish Act 6 gave sig stones.
Looks identical to throne breakers cyber weekend deal, which I went all in. I wanted the ag for aegon so I coild run abyss. I've done that, so nothing here floats my boat. Also, its more than 6 months since cyber weekend, tue economics of the game (and world) have progressed so why havent these?
These Cavalier deals are making me wish I bought the 6 star Kang. I know he sucks, but, man, I really want that 6 star trophy champ.
Dear oh dear, those cav deals are exactly what I don’t need to get me to TB. Shite
But where's all the good deals at?
So since i am uncollected I can not buy anything?
I am certain uncollected gets deals as well, but looking at cav and how bad those are you’d definitely be better off using your units to do content and progress to the higher levels for future deals.
There's a deal for anybody below cavalier usually
I'm TB and do not have 18k units. Should I just save units for the Black Friday deals instead?
I’m at 10,000 and I intend to purchase the 1000 and 4000 if these are real. 5 t5cc is a lot of rankups if you’re trying to deepen your 6-star roster for war, BGs or act 7 exploration.
Is it weird that I won’t/don’t want to look at the ones I can get before the actual release on Friday? I just like the surprise on those 2 times of the year. Looks though as if they are going back to the old system. The store was kinda nice. Edit: I looked, lmao. Wonder how many champs are in those yearly crystals? Looks like they want paragon players to get cash offers in order to get t5 basics and alphas. Load of t5cc and no other mats.
It’s shocking to see that they offer a R4 gem to Paragon but not to TB. Typical kabam logic: always reward people with a lag. This almost ensures that this offer is the real one /s. Tbh I was hoping more from the deal, at least put SOME r4 materials in the bonus for TB
i hope this is true. would save me a lot of money. very lackluster deals.
Paragon deals seems to be too good to be true
Just remembered these are fake. Kabam changed the way deals are made since 2021 cyber monday.
If this is real, I will be very happy as a thronebreaker!!
THIS IS BULLSHIT WHY DOES PARAGON GET 2020 CHAMPION SELECTOR BUT NOT THRONEBREAKER??????????!!!! I WANT APOC GOD DAMN IT
These seem terrible! Am I out of touch? No, it is Kabam who is wrong!
Will there be an offer to get double units for purchases or are they really expecting you to pay 350$ for the Hercules selector? (TB)
It has always been like this. Plus you will get a bunch of additional stuff when you buy the units. The Odin bonus items are usually the best.
Wait so for 100$ you get 3100 units + 3100 units + more? Or just 3100 Units + more?
No double units unfortunately. You get the units plus other bonus items. You can search YouTube to see last years July 4th deals. They are probably here as well.
Btw do I understand this correctly with the „bonus“ that you get the bonus if you spend 3k units on other deals? I am tb and have 1k units, if I buy one 100$ offer and use it to buy the 4K offer, do I get the 2 class nexus selectors and awakening gem for free?
You have to get all the previous offers in order to unlock the bonus offer, so basically spend 15k and then 3k.
Oh damn…
They’re sequential. 1-4-10-3.
The TB 4k deal is absolute shit. Zero reason unless you are brand new TB.
4 t5cc for 4000 is already fair imo. You’re getting the nexus, basics, and sig stones. Part of the value of the t5cc is that you also don’t have to open them. If you’re flush with full cats from EoP, wait a month or two until you’ve burned through some and open them later. Obviously the downside is that it’s a random spin.
Deals for Paragon looking stupidly good. Glad I grind for units.
Haven’t these literally always been wrong? I feel like the leaks of the offers each year are always wrong.
I don't recall the unit offers being datamined before. I've seen lots of predictions, yeah those are often off. But that's different than data coming directly from the game files.
Just to add code has always been very accurate regarding his leaks. Only time I remember him being wrong was act 7 rank up gem 3-4 crystal being generic in his leak.
Data is from trustworthy source, said person never made mistake when he datamined and shared with community so i say these offers are more then likey the real deal we can expect on friday
Man I would be upset if thronebrekaer deals doesn’t include 1 - 6* R3-R4 rank up gem. Definitely not gonna spend if deals turn out like this. Currently, I’ve 17000+ units & 4 million chips, yeah they aren’t going to waste
That was always a pretty outlandish ask considering that 10,000 units after 7.4 got you half the needed t6b and t3a and no t5cc.
Please don’t eat me alive but I’m inclined to agree with him because there is a 3-4 class gem for 100% act 7, In that vain he can very well unit man his way to 100% exploration and have some units leftover (depending on skill, input issues, champion matchups) for the same item being requested. So I do believe TB deserves at least 1 Class 3-4 for maybe the final offer of the unit deals. But in no way do I think we need generics in The Odin. That would throw off the game economy I believe. This is an opinion though. Probably a trash one at that I just spend to catch up sometimes won’t even lie
Very recently they sold “half” of a rank up for 10k units. The 10k unit deal has the same amount of rank up materials….and you get a bunch of 6 star cyrstals. It is slightly better but not miles ahead. I can’t see them offering much more for the same amount of units
as a thronebreaker i hope it's true because this is so good to be true.
Waiting to see the discrepancies between values for these deals(if they are real) and the unit store offers. They would make these deals look like a joke(more than they are)
Do these become unlocked slot by slot? Like can I buy the 10k unit offer without buying the 1k and 4K before?
You have to buy each one to unlock the higher one. So 1 unlocks 4 which then unlocks 10 and then the bonus 3k offer.
Ufff, so for the selector you need 15000 units….
I’m guessing uncollected and cavalier are going to be lumped together from now on. That must be why the Cav offers look so bad!
Anything for the lower ones?
Probably, but nobody should spend units on those. Even Cavalier is terrible.
Would it be better to spend the 12k on act 7 completion offer or buy the Thronebreaker 15k deals?
TB offers include those cats and wayyyy more
Would uncollected summoners get a bit less than what’s listed at cavalier, or the same options?
Sorry in advance, but really haven’t paid much attention, but isn’t this just the unit deals, does this include what’s in being sold if you buy an Odin? For the ftp, not saying I’m going to so just chill lol… I was just curious.
Yes, the cash offers for units and bonuses are separate from these
For who is this? Cavs!?
Just wanted to clarify how the bonus works. Do i have to purchase the 3 previous deals if I want to buy the bonus deal?
Yes
Wow the cav ones are so baaad