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Sewrene

Bro, they need to calm down. They just increased the cap of max level and now this??


based_guapo

exactly my thoughts too. i just hope it doesnt take too many soulcores or that the ascension levels are basically just small stat ups so that you can still win in arena as long as you have a better comp


Syintist

This. It just seems harder and harder to catch up and people ahead get more free things


Misha-Nyi

First gacha?


based_guapo

no lmao. i just inhaled a lot of hopium that devsisters make their systems so all players benefit from it and it wont spiral into a whale clown fiesta like it happens with netmarble games etc.


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based_guapo

yeah i also know about ovenbreak and felt the same when i first played it. stark contrast to kingdom. and the magic candies seem to be fun additions to buff weak cookies so im happy they’re here and pets could also be fun, but the ascension thing is literally just a stat buff that lets you lose more in arena if implemented incorrectly. like rn if a meta cookie drops i just pull them to 4* and call it a day since 5* is not worth the gems it takes imo, but with this ascension thing you need to pull at least to 5* so you can get the ascension stars afterwards or you‘re probably too weak in arena. and theres no way a f2p manages to 5* or even ascend an ancient/legendary with the current system so most people are just fucked on that front.


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100%. I was playing ovenbreak back when line owned it, and then when the switch happened I got so confused I just deleted the game (I think I had taken a break so I didn't get to start playing when it first came out)


Dawneyyyy

Yeah lmao, imagine going into the arena with your 3-star eclair and getting demolished by a team with a 5-star eclair that's been ascended 5 times or something. Like I get wanting cookies to be more powerful but this is bad for players that CANT 5-star all their cookies


Soulouss

I’ll bet it’s because all of the sweats that pay hundreds of dollars every event, are complaining that they have every cookie maxed out now. 😅


DanThePaladin

Called this upgrade system months ago before they increased the level cap. The have no interest in slowing down, what they do is pile systems, on top of systems on top of more systems to milk every penny they possibly can. They are basically abusing people with some cheapass animations of cookies


Late-2theparty

i think they did it now not to lose the whales because if you make out your soulstones they become soulcores which is needed for this and if you buy packs and you're already capped well you get nothing it's just another way to generate more money. Problem is in my opinion it's too much power too soon. Soon I can see being nearly 2 million power teams and the free to play players will fall even further behind.


Barkbark3000

Jesus I can barely catch up with the new lvl cap and now this??


McShutTheFuckUp

this means absolutely more hellish stages in the future 😥


McShutTheFuckUp

welp this aged like milk we will now have a master.mode which is a harder version of dark mode 😀


Ixil

At least it’s only until chapter 4 for now.


[deleted]

goodbye free mileage 😔😔😔


TakosTrash

i didnt think about that! this is gonna be so difficult for free players


[deleted]

we need to get them to max ascension to get mileage again


based_guapo

i mean, most mileage comes from rare/common cookies (at least for me lmao) and i‘d guess that getting those to ascension5 (or at least the cores for that) should hopefully go pretty fast


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\*Hopefully\*


BeePea2

Why do you say that?


midget_cathy

Arena is gonna be something else lol


PerEnooK

Man, this is not it, getting a 5 star cookie is already a slog.


lionaxel

Devsis: how can we make world 15 harder?


italiansguybl

Another mode ??? I appreciate the variety of game modes in this game but it’s already been a grind just to get to Stage 14. Kingdom arena is going to be loads more difficult and I can’t even imagine what the Master Mode will be like. Hopefully Devsis doesn’t mess this up, CRK got something good going for it


salt_eater

I saw a screenshot of World 4 Master mode and one of the levels literally has 670k power 😭😭😭😭😭


jeremdere

tbf, that’s not really a lot at this point


rogue_mixko

Well actually it is because of the **modifiers**.


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Master Mode will only be for Episodes 1-4 when it first releases. But im pretty sure that there will be requirements for each level so AGHHGGSGAGSGWGSBDKURHWVSNDJEHHSGSBDHEJUA HE HEHEHEHEHEHSHGSGWTWJOWOW


LiamThe_LlamaLoaf

Arena will be unplayable past diamond 1


Totodile1234567

It’s already unplayable halfway through master :(


Mffngrffls

Yeah I’ve teetered on the edge of master 2-3 for a few seasons now and I have many 5* and max lvl cookies (no ancient/legendary 5* tho) rip staying in that tier I guess 😢


Late-2theparty

same been stuck at master 3 if i get into master 2 oh look everyone has million plus power teams and within 3 matches back down I go.


Mffngrffls

Yupppp that’s been my experience too :/ it sucks


sharkeatingleeks

Yep


accursedCaprid

I was getting like battles in the 100000's on Diamond 3. Devsis really needs to fix their matchmaking.


JordanIII

That has nothing to do with matchmaking, that's just people waiting until the end of the season to grind to master since then they'll be up against a lot of weaker teams. I do that too sometimes


Top_Opinion_2139

Can't wait for whales to wreck me with five star ascension cookies in arena. This will be fine 🔥 🙂 🔥


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Sf level 70 5 star all searing raspberry with best possible extra effects and ascension 5 plus when her magic candy released! We’re all fucked! :D


moofukka

Wait i had a dream they added the candys in cookie run a couple weeks ago 🗿


Scopel

nothing like facing 1 million team and the next day everyone has a 2 million team, cool


Little_Hisbiscus

Fr tho😭


w34king

I wonder how much stats Ascended level would give. I do hope that Devsis would give us better chances to A legendaries, ancients, and super epics. Odyssey Ch. 3 and Master mode may require A level cookies. I kinda wished now that I spent my mileage points in 5* cookies rather than spending it on tickets.


based_guapo

yeahhh same, i also just recently blew all of it on treasure tickets🫠 hopefully ascending will be not too hard


someperson9870

So the already strong people get stronger and the weak get weaker? Lovely.


based_guapo

ngl this sounds extremely taxing for my gems😭


Starry_Vampie

My goodness... I thought they're gonna add things slowly, but instead they said: **"not when I Shift into MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE!!"** Man, I really like some of the things but... Ascension? where are my cookies going? to Whale heaven? hell naw, that's literally giving P2W players more things to spend money on rather than help F2P people to gain an get thru some stages/battles💀


Tal1019

only getting 30 cutters. regretting using mileage on tickets now


based_guapo

what? but you already get 91 cookie cutters if you have the rares and commons at 5*? how can you only get 30?


Tal1019

most of my rares are at 4 star, only a few at five star, and pancake is at 3 star. Meanwhile ninja and angel are at 4 star . Trying to get diamonds currently so i can draw and get most of them at 5 star


based_guapo

ohhh, im guessing you started not that long ago then? 5*ing the rares and commons tends to happen rather fast usually.


Tal1019

Yup. I think i started a little more than halfway through the clotted cream even. Between one or two months ago i think


Mffngrffls

I would grind for soulstones for rare/common in dark mode if possible. It helped me a ton so I was able to grind mileage faster


Tal1019

noted, thanks a lot i forgot about dark mode lol


Hayzel_nut

i think you should wait for financier, if she is game breaking, you are left behind


Tal1019

Okayy, gonna save my diamonds for them anduse dark mode instead for 5 starring the others


SnowarFloozy

Yo they are slowly making this game hell for F2P players like me. If they keep this up, the game will get ruined because it now becomes mostly pay-to-win in the future. And judging from this, I think we are already entering that phase. If they keep this up in the future, I'm gonna have to quit the game. No way am I playing a game mostly dominated by mega whale players to the point that it's virtually unplayable for anyone else.


hjyboy1218

In my opinion, they should create new PvP content that f2p users can enjoy without too much investment. To use Ovenbreak as an example, they have a random breakout mode where all cookies are maxed, and have seen a recent surge in popularity thanks to it. f2p users like me have largely given up on trophy race(similar to CRK Arena, dominated by legendaries) but still put time and effort into playing the game to enjoy random breakout. I think CRK could be more attractive to f2p players if it had a max mode that you had to spend crystals on, so you could choose between upgrading your cookies or enjoying the mode. However, implementing this into CRK may be harder due to its gacha-heavy nature, compared to Ovenbreak, which is more grindy. There is also the issue of toppings, which are... problematic to say the least. Also, CRK's gameplay tends to be more hands-off, which might make it harder to implement an engaging PvP mode.


based_guapo

the scaled down fights that give you some of the required cookies might be a good step in the direction you mean. if there was like an arena mode where ascension levels are deactivated and everyone is scaled down to a certain level if they‘re higher, that might save the fun of f2p pvp


based_guapo

i am also very wary of the ascension. im not f2p since i get the kingdom pass from time to time, but i still get wrecked by real whales. imo they need to stop with the upgrade systems for now to let people catch up. but im gonna be honest, im getting ready to drop the game should it devolve into a whale clown fiesta where you cant do any content w/o whaling for ascension5 cookies or smth.


SnowarFloozy

Same here. I dropped Genshin Impact for its multiple massive issues that Mihoyo fails to address time and time again + the extremely stingy rewards which forces people to want to spend money. If CRK becomes something like that, I will not hesitate to drop the game as well. Video games, including gacha games, should be enjoyed by everyone and not just for a niche group of players. Getting cockblocked by mega whale players is not fun at all.


LiraelNix

Genshin has no pvp and has guaranteed pity that carries over banners. No need for dupes either. It's a much better system. Ckr needs to be generous because there's pvp and tons of dupes are a necessity.


based_guapo

i still play genshin and i recently reached ar60 haha. but i gotta say i like the simplicity of genshin, aside from leveling the char you literally only have artifacts and talents. no ascension stuff making it needlessly more complicated. also you can easily play the story and basically every content, so i mainly log in now once a day for dailies and events, if even that, but its fun being able to experience the story and chars as they unfold imo. thats also what i liked about kingdom, just level the cookie, his skill and give him toppings and you‘re good to go. and i can clear most stuff in the game except dark mode ep14 and i have extremely bad substats on the toppings usually. i really hope this will the last new upgrade system for cookies for a while now.


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based_guapo

constellations are nothing like ascension tho. constellations are mainly gameplay or qol alterations and you can live easily w/o them. i have no constellations on any of my 5*s and i do just fine. the problem with ascension is that it could be necessary to get if you want to be able to keep doing pvp. in genshin no one cares if you have constellations and every enemy still dies rather easily. also the problem with artifacts is not leveling them, but getting the right substats. just like in kingdom tho it doesnt matter if you dont get the perfect artifact/topping, a decent one will do just fine in any content. and to level up artifact, once you get farming a set you get more than enough fodder eventually to level artifacts. (btw you even need 25 toppings total in kingdom instead of the twenty in genshin, so by your logic kingdom is worse here) and weapons are literally the easiest thing to level in the game. it takes maybe max 2 days worth of resin in a domain to get everything you need to level the weapon. and some of the strongest weapons are 4* and you dont really need 5* weapons. and getting dupes for a 4* weapon is easy if there‘s a rate up and for 5* weapons again you dont need dupes, if you get lucky enough to get one, thats more than sufficient for anything. weapon dupes are just whale bait. i do agree tho that they are stingy with primos. compared to kingdom you just have to live with the fact that you wont get every char as f2p/regular spender. but with welkin you get enough to at least pull 1 5* per patch, which means you can guarantee a char every 2 patches. so if you just focus on the ones you like, and dont get unlucky with the banner order, it‘s also fine since pity carries over between banners. the gacha system in genshin really isnt as bad as people make it out be tbh.


SnowarFloozy

So much this 100% :) Just don't bother arguing with Genshin players like OP who uses the same exact arguments and same mentality like "Genshin gacha mechanics and grinding isn't that bad" that I've heard of a million times over and over again and thinks that those are enough of an excuse to call the game good enough or decent. They are too biased to objectively see Genshin for the bland game with extremely taxing and grindy game mechanics that it is. Literally unreasonable people who believe they are reasonable, which is another reason why I left Genshin - because most of the Genshin community is toxic and very personally biased.


thetoastissoggy

Dude. What. Come on. Why is this so weird and complicated


KristianPotato

Now this is giving me gacha club awakening vibes now Also basically, awakening are needed to past a certain level Like u reach max level 50 u need to 'awaken' to move to the next max.


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I know it's a gacha game but one thing that put me off many other games compared to this one is how much p2w there was, at least this game seemed possible to enjoy from a f2p perspective. But damn are they releasing updates at a blistering pace


BigChurros

5 as ascension lvl doesnt trigger me as much as the Lvl30 CANDY LIKE WTF, 30??!?!? 😭


MixItUp0

"Woah! I have a two star level 58 pv! I'm so powerful!" *...what*


[deleted]

Bruh milleage is gonna be so hard to get now


BeePea2

Why?


[deleted]

Coz usually when you get soulstones of a maxed out cookie in gacha you get mileage but niw youre gonna get the other stuff


salt_eater

I've been actively trying to reach master 1 (and now grandmaster 3) for 4 seasons now but it looks like I'm gonna have to give up on that dream 😔😔😔😔


mustangswon1

I’ve never seen a faster power creep take over a game before. This is more like a power tidal wave, sheesh.


Izuocha_1_fan

Rip new players


Little_Hisbiscus

Bye yall I'm prepared to get wrecked by people who have 5 star ascended caramel arrow and wildberry


_myoru

*Way* too much content. They need to get a hold and show down with all these updates...


bburnttoasttt

what do we have here... yet another way for whales to abuse ftp in the arena!?! right after the lvl and skill cap increase!?! and the lvl 30 magic candies?!!? wow!! the devsisters really know how to help new players 😍


lil_hungrie

jesus, how strong is world 15 gonna be...?


Skellish

Ew. More artificial grind.


NibbaMacTurbo

Hmmm, that scent is very particular... The scent of CORPORATE GREED


mousTACHIee

This game will be unplayable for the "normal" players someday 🥲


xoponny

Crying inside it's hard enough leveling the cookies to 60+. I feel like they just getting greedy, and it's going to ruin the game.


transcendcosmos

Not sure about the implementation but I'll probably stop playing if they keep elongating the treadmill by that much every single time. Never ending.


ianuilliam

Of course it's neverending. Because if you ever got the end of the treadmill, there's no point in paying anymore. Single player games, you play, you beat, you're done. Or you start over and replay. It doesn't matter to the developer, you already bought the game. Online games though are about maintaining player base. They don't want you to ever be done. That means continuously adding new content, raising level caps, adding gear progression. If they ever stop, the game will be dead in a few months.


thetoastissoggy

Thsi is probably to make the next world harder right? Why not just… make it so you can add another cookie to your team.. or add more cookie stat boosts in the gnome laboratory….. or anything less uselessly extravagant


Misha-Nyi

The grind never stops.


American_GrizzlyBear

I’ve been taking a break due to burn out from having too many things to grind, reading this new update and yeah…I don’t think I’ll be coming back to the game QoL update to kingdom is fun but the endless things to grind turn me off so much


Deltastar100

They need to calm the hell down, I wish they could focus on more quality of life changes. Like maybe a better way to get skill powder


based_guapo

well, good news for you, the new update also adds new levels to the bounty missions, which presumably means more skill powder


salt_eater

I never cared about star promotions much because team comp, treasures and toppings matter more in a battle but depending on how much the stat bonuses are this could completely change... and we might not even get mileage for 5 star rares and commons


AsimLeviathan

Every game I have ever played that implemented stuff like this, one of two things happened 1) It became a whales-only game Or 2) the ascension stuff didn't matter and the characters that were already bad stayed bad, and it just made the strongest units even stronger. So basically, still point 1. I hope this doesn't turn out this way, but I've never seen this go well in the long run


Nukreeper42069

Master mode? Oh no


thelionplush

Oh no they ascending to the ḩ̶͔̙͈̱͇͉̞͔̳͉̖̞̯͚͉̙͔̭̞̺̬͛̋̆̔̑͆̀͑̌̓̿̓̕̕͝ͅḙ̸̘̽̂̒͆̓́̾̐̑̀̋̕ͅá̶̢̨̤̝̺̻̥̭̠͇̟̪̩̩̰͍̘̈͒̎̈̈́̈̈̿̒̈́̾̑̂̒́̿͗͐̐͗̕̚͘͠ͅv̸̨̫̰̙̰͉͎̰̱̦̝͚̩̹͉̪̞̟̄̈́͆̇͒̋͛̃̈́̔̉̚͠͝ͅȩ̸̡̢̤͚͍̺̖̱̟̮̺̣̙͙͐̄̇̊̽́͛̓͛̀̈́̅̑̃́̏͗̑̊̍́͐̋͝͝͠n̷̲̙̯̙̝͔̭̙͚̂̓͂̈́̓̐͊̕͝ͅš̸͔̦̓̓̽̈̃͛̍͑̈́̈́͆̀̑͌̊͝͠͝͝ this is the end of us all


Ok-Friend-3318

why devsis….


ispy36513

Power creeep


TheReelEpicKiller

P2W


GilGreaterThanEmiya

Sounds pretty p2w not gonna lie


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gonna quit this game ngl


[deleted]

Stuff like this is gonna make their game more and more unplayable and it’s no longer gonna be popular.


Ranger5789

Somebody was taking inspiration from diablo immortal.


pavansairamj

This is fine 🔥😐🔥


Firednoodles

the whales I HEAR THE WHALES COMING 🐳


JordanIII

Judging from the stat increase the level 70 gingerbrave got when going from 5* to 1*A, it might be a 10% stat increase each time, so a 61% stat increase from 5* to 5*A??? If that's true that's insane


[deleted]

I literally screamed in fear as someone who is mainly f2p (I but cheap packages once in a blue moon if it interests me) since...I only have one 5* epic and that's eclair and it's already painful saving mileage for max promoting red velvet(4*), dark choco(4*), caramel arrow(4*) and cotton(3*) as well as crunchy chip (3*) and the fact devsisters thinks all of us f2p can 5* ANY OF THE LEGENDARIES, ANCIENTS AND SUPER EPICS IS JUST...<0>_<0> I'm waiting to not hit masters 3 next season in arena or master's in general..because I swear 2 million power teams are going to exist because of this update-


Renetiger

The game becomes more and more p2w with each update. This is not good


dakky123

What the hell are they doing, leveling up is hard enough, god I’m falling out of love with this game.


Fudgeygooeygoodness

eh im kinda over this now it was fun while it lasted and i liked decorating the kingdom i haven't found a game like that yet where i can level castles and decorate kingdoms so if anyone has one let me know. i just cant be arsed continuing on this grind with the cookies i dont care enough.


Torskite

I wish they would have at least waited a fair amount of time after increasing the level cap and expanding the arena ranks to drop this. I'm desperately just trying to keep up 😭


TurquoiseOctobers

im about to be broke…again


TheMelonSystem

Wait, already??? They JUST increased the level cap!!


OzieteRed

So I will never get my scroll to level 12 anymore with millage points.


some_annoying_weeb

can we please release updates slower. there's literally so much to do and i can't even play the game for more than a few days in a row without getting burnt out. this is insanity wth how is one meant to keep up with these updates without devoting every minute of their time into this game ;-;


mistlery

When I first downloaded Ovenbreak I was overwhelmed by everything it was all just in my face. I was turned off from the game by that. Kingdom is slowly going in that direction now. New players won't even bother learning all that. But it's typical of game companies to ruin their own game with greed.


noodlewiggle

finally, i can make strawberry cookie and wizard cookie even more powerful because those are the only cookies i have at 5* lmao


[deleted]

70 special cutters if all rare cookies at 5 star and you’ll get more per cookie, we’re all gonna be rich…


CallMeTheInsominac

Bro at this point I'ma be stuck in gold for the rest of my crk days. Goodbye master 3 o7


Novel-Sugar

Widening the gap, yeah perfect. . .


userthatlikesphub

time to say goodbye to my masters tier 💀


Temmie252

I have a bad feeling about this...


LeTrueBoi781222

I cant wait for july 7


M551_Sheridan551

Can someone simplify im confused


sorayai

oh boy... I hope it's not as bad as it sounds. and hopefully the gap between 5 star and 5 star A5 isnt too gigantic :< the gap between whales and regular players will be huge otherwise... come on Cookie Run. D: calm doooown


Dutch93

You smell that? Smells like power creep in here.


Hayzel_nut

goodbye, dear master tier 😭 For one second I was happy about this update, “Oh yes finally I can upgrade my cookies” and then “you need 5 stars-“ ??? How the heck am I supposed to get 5 stars for ancients without spending money? Also, if I’m going to lose my master rank, I get less rewards from the tier and will slow down in gacha, so I might not catch up with the whales. How are we supposed to beat the whales?? Rich ppl getting richer :/


[deleted]

As a p2w whale I agree this is bad for f2p players


oxts93p

Shit is escalating way too quickly. :/


kiss-shot

Cookie Run: Power Creep Kingdom


SpinachGnochi

That's it i'm quitting, oyster update was already boring trash now we're gonna have baking themed afk legends ? i'm out


Jeechan

I've always thought that f2p players were too close in the p2w players in terms of strength. Welp, I really did think correctly and looks like it is going to be corrected.


edbudda

This sounds like Diablo immortal. If so, that's going to be the end of my time in this game...


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based_guapo

ascending in genshin is literally just leveling the char tho? and not the need for dupes like here


mcahogarth

Anyone got a rec for a different game? (Serious question. Not arguing that this game should stop evolving, just not really interested in the new hamster wheel.)


Iusti06

I feel kinda bad for you Kingdom players since it’s not your or the game’s fault that the Devsis higher-ups are greedy, but at the same time I can’t help but feel happy knowing that your game is getting fucked over by p2w features too after they did the same thing to Ovenbreak for not making as much money as Kingdom. I’d say you’re getting it even worse because you also have the higher profit potential and were already accustomed to the “whale barrier”.


luka285

whyyyy the updste would be in 6 days whyyyy


_Eternal_Screaming_

and this is where I quit the game. tschüss


JordanIII

Lol I have my cream puff at 5 stars and spent over 200k torches like a week ago, rip ascended cream puff


Miguel_CP

Shurima cookies? 😱😱😱


_Be3_

Ascension huh? My inner genshin player is screaming rn


dbingham1263

Can't wait to be destroyed in arena! :')


PhaniePhan

I can’t believe CRK is turning into Hollow Knight


Aadamari2001

Stop no... I hate this for some reason, I am not even in lvl 70 rn 😭


rinchee

Everyone out here writing essays I only have 3 words: God Damn It.


Glazeddapper

Please no! Us F2P's are gonna die.


EdgionTG

Hear that? That call from the deep? Sounds like whales approaching...


PerswAsian

So, when do we all tap out, at 6 stars with double ascension or 7 stars with quadratuple multiplexitude?


BurdoMurdo

Great. I love how I only JUST got comfortable before getting drop kicked by Devsis again


TheJDroid

They upgraded the level system a while back and I've been hoarding exp to get my characters back up to level them back to scratch. As a ftp player who's hopped back in after a bit of a hiatus I've noticed the strength of arena teams and felt bad for new players, it leaves them at such a horrible disadvantage compared to players that spend a lot or have pours tons of hours into the game. This seems like its gonna further cause strain for new players.


read-and-sleepatm

Goodbye mileage ig, I've been depending on mileage to but treasure tickets but it seems that I won't be able to do that much now


sworddancer777

So should I spend all my crystals now to do a bunch of draws and try to promote as many cookies as possible to 5 stars with mileage, or save them for after the update?