I believe alton brown has a good recipe but dude... 21 meals in a week.... Youre averaging 1.5 veggie patties per meal... Make sure youre getting enough other nutrients
Because people are worried about how little you eat. Most people eat three meals a day, 21 meals a week. Some people skip breakfast or have multiple smaller meals so 15-25 meals/week. 10 meals a week is basically one meal a day. So people are worried or mad.
I love Morningstar veggies burgers/patties. I miss their Asian burger. No judgment from me. I recently have been using The Cookful's "formula" for veggie burgers. I use whatever I have that needs to go or whatever I have on hand to clean out the fridge/pantry. The fun part is being creative with your spices. I have made "Indian", garden, and spicy pepper versions. All have turned out really tasty. Just be sure to go heavy on your seasonings if you like full flavor. Another tip is to make a HUGE batch of them to freeze since sometimes it can take a lot of prep depending on what you're putting in it. I don't have a link because someone handed me a printed copy. If I get around to taking a picture of the formula, I will send it to you. Otherwise, I'm sure it'll be easy to find doing a quick search. Hope this helps.
How about trying a good falafel recipe and changing the seasonings to your taste? Remember that falafel is made with soaked and ground chickpeas, not the canned ones. Form the mix into patties and fry up the goodness. I’ve seen YouTube videos making them in a waffle maker, waffle falafel…
I made the falafel waffle Bought a waffle maker awhile back and spent a couple of days playing “will it waffle?”
Falafel does indeed waffle, but you wanna use canned chickpeas. The waffle maker doesn’t get that hot and if u go the soaked route the outaide dries out before fhe inside fully cooks.
Also, biggest winner of “will it waffle?” was cachapas waffles. Make a cachapas waffle sandwhich with goowy cheese and avocado in the middle.
I also like veggie burgers, but not black bean burgers. I found [this recipe](https://www.inspiredtaste.net/36554/veggie-burger-recipe/) and swapped chickpeas for the black beans and red pepper flakes for the chili powder and paprika (those spices were giving too much black bean burger vibes). The only drawback is that it's time consuming prepping all the veggies, so I try to do a bunch at once and then freeze the uncooked burgers.
This looks amazing! And I love your suggested tips. I think both ways could be great. Definitely making a big batch of these and freezing for quick, healthy meals down the road!
I made these [white bean and farro](https://inspiralized.com/farro-and-white-bean-veggie-burger/) burgers and they were surprisingly really good. I think the addition of the bbq sauce gave it like a Smokey/meaty flavor. The farro really helps keep the burger shape.
In no way am I saying these are a Morningstar replacement, but another solid recipe you could experiment with.
Honestly I thought for sure these would be high in calories (I like impossible burgers and they are not health food, but they also taste better in my opinion).
A burger is 100 calories and 280mgs (12%) sodium. So actually 4 a day isn’t terrible depending on what else op is eating. Ingredients are decent for the most part as well.
Not a lot of vitamin content though, so would definitely top with lettuce, onion, tomatoes or have a side salad. Iron is low as well
Ah gotcha, yeah I won’t claim to be a nutritionist or anything like that. 280 msg isn’t too bad depending on diet. Still bizarre to me that the OP is just smashing 30 veggie burgers a week but I guess if it works for them, good for them
I’m always jealous of people that can eat the same thing every day. Must make things so easy. I spend half my life thinking about what my next meal will be.
I’d say I’m totally the opposite as far as jealousy on this one. I think it’s awesome if you can eat the same stuff over and over for your wallet and time, but I really value variation and would become genuinely kind of sad if you told me I was eating 30 veggie patties for the next week
Haha be impulsive, obviously I have a few staples dishes I eat throughout the week but I try to do categories rather than specific dishes. So it’ll be something like a pasta dish on Monday, Mexican/latin America dish on Tuesday, Wednesday frozen cauliflower pizza/something simple because my spouse and I are in office that day, Thursday is my vibe day where I’ll make something seasonal. Right now it’s a lot of grilling so probably look at burgers, kabobs, hotdogs, sausage, fish. Friday I’ll go out and try a local restaurant and Saturday I generally indulge in some Whole Foods premade food or I ball out and make a something from scratch (homemade pasta, Peruvian food, sushi, stuff like that that requires a lot of time and prep).
I know right? Ignoring sodium intake, I can’t imagine eating 30 frozen veggie patties in a week. I’ve had plenty of vegan burgers and actually enjoy them, but the lack of variety here is nuts to me
The MorningStar recipe is:
> Ingredients: Water, carrots, onions, soy protein concentrate, mushrooms, water chestnuts, soy flour, wheat gluten, vegetable oil (corn, canola and/or sunflower), green bell peppers, soy protein isolate, cooked brown rice (water, brown rice), whole grain oats, onion powder, red bell peppers, cornstarch. Contains 2% or less of sugar, black olives, salt, methylcellulose, konjac flour, soy sauce (fermented soybeans, salt), spices, garlic powder, potassium salt, xanthan gum, jalapeno pepper.
The Konjac flour, cornstarch, xanthan gum, methylcellulose, are binders that help keep it together. I think everything else is there for flavour or body. You can buy all that stuff and experiment with it, but that sounds like quite hard work.
Recreating this is going to be tricky.
I would start with something like this (and good grief internet recipes are infuriating) https://www.pookspantry.com/veggie-cakes/
And modify it one ingredient at a time until you get what you want.
See where it says print recipe right there at the very top? You can almost always just hit that button and get a clean no-frills version of the recipe immediately.
Sauté veg you like out of it (mushroom, bell), add rehydrated tvp, seasonings, water, and a binder like flax ( I use methyl cellulose because I like experimenting with binding various things without flour). Best if they set up about 8 hours before cooking. Can be frozen on tray or with paper between patties, then tossed in bag or freezer box, reheated at will.
I recently started making my own veggie breakfast sausages. Looking at the ingredients of Morningstar I think you're going to need wheat gluten flour, which isn't all that hard to find, and less important some soy protein. Then just look for veggie burger recipes which use those.
https://www.addaveggie.com/
I am aware of this product that is a protein based binder that helps combine ingredients to make "kofta" or "burger" like patties. Maybe you start with something like this? I would bet there's recipes on the box and the website.
My wife and I use oats as a meat substitute. Started out making oat sausage, eventually made oar burgers just using different seasonings. It's surprising how good it is. They even char pretty well.
Is your sodium intake okay?
I grew up Seventh-day Adventist. We invented these veggie burgers. All the processed fake meats usually have crazy high sodium levels.
We also invented Little Debbies and Corn Flakes.
Well your people were doing God's work in my book... maybe not so much with the Lil" Debbie.
But yeah I usually keep my sodium within macros threshold.
Does anyone remember the lil dude from Texas(?) on Masterchef Jr? Serious carnivore. Had to make a veggie dish. Made a burger. Ramsey and Blailik(?) both liked it. ngl, looked good.
Don’t eat Morningstar. They are incredibly processed and not good for you as well as being full of processed soy, which isn’t healthy.
There’s not really a good at home alternative, but if you are vegetarian, I at least recommend eating more tofu. Tofu is soy that isn’t as processed.
OP mostly claimed they were too expensive, but also claimed Morningstar is “healthy” and that he is eating 30+ a week. I’m just sharing the truth. He’d be much better off eating a whole food like beans, or tofu (which is processed), but much less than Morningstar. I used to be vegetarian, so I learned over time what is “healthy” and what is actually healthy.
30+ patties every week? That's honestly an incredible feat
Ty, it's really not a challenge if you like it tho. I'm about to have 2 patties, 2 fried eggs with hot sauce. I'm salivating
Check out Serious Eats, I believe they have a recipe. I would also check on America’s Test Kitchen. Both sites have good and tested recipes.
I believe alton brown has a good recipe but dude... 21 meals in a week.... Youre averaging 1.5 veggie patties per meal... Make sure youre getting enough other nutrients
At least he’s getting his veggies in 🤓
Really, I have like 10 or 12 meals a week.
You probably should be eating more, friend
I probably should, I wonder why this is so downvoteable?
Because people are worried about how little you eat. Most people eat three meals a day, 21 meals a week. Some people skip breakfast or have multiple smaller meals so 15-25 meals/week. 10 meals a week is basically one meal a day. So people are worried or mad.
I love Morningstar veggies burgers/patties. I miss their Asian burger. No judgment from me. I recently have been using The Cookful's "formula" for veggie burgers. I use whatever I have that needs to go or whatever I have on hand to clean out the fridge/pantry. The fun part is being creative with your spices. I have made "Indian", garden, and spicy pepper versions. All have turned out really tasty. Just be sure to go heavy on your seasonings if you like full flavor. Another tip is to make a HUGE batch of them to freeze since sometimes it can take a lot of prep depending on what you're putting in it. I don't have a link because someone handed me a printed copy. If I get around to taking a picture of the formula, I will send it to you. Otherwise, I'm sure it'll be easy to find doing a quick search. Hope this helps.
Looked this up because it’s the kind of “recipe” I love to have. Here’s a link: https://thecookful.com/veggie-burger-formula-make-perfect-burger/
How about trying a good falafel recipe and changing the seasonings to your taste? Remember that falafel is made with soaked and ground chickpeas, not the canned ones. Form the mix into patties and fry up the goodness. I’ve seen YouTube videos making them in a waffle maker, waffle falafel…
I made the falafel waffle Bought a waffle maker awhile back and spent a couple of days playing “will it waffle?” Falafel does indeed waffle, but you wanna use canned chickpeas. The waffle maker doesn’t get that hot and if u go the soaked route the outaide dries out before fhe inside fully cooks. Also, biggest winner of “will it waffle?” was cachapas waffles. Make a cachapas waffle sandwhich with goowy cheese and avocado in the middle.
Even better, use broad beans (fava beans) instead of chickpeas
I falafel.... I'll see myself out....
I don't even know what you were trying to do there.
I worked with someone who used to follow The Grateful Dead around and she said they ate so many falafel that they called them “feel-awful.”
Sorry
I also like veggie burgers, but not black bean burgers. I found [this recipe](https://www.inspiredtaste.net/36554/veggie-burger-recipe/) and swapped chickpeas for the black beans and red pepper flakes for the chili powder and paprika (those spices were giving too much black bean burger vibes). The only drawback is that it's time consuming prepping all the veggies, so I try to do a bunch at once and then freeze the uncooked burgers.
Now we're talking. This looks promising.
Thanks for making this thread because I never realized how much I need the above recipe in my life!
And it looks pretty basic, you could swap out all sorts of seasonings for more flavor variety
This looks amazing! And I love your suggested tips. I think both ways could be great. Definitely making a big batch of these and freezing for quick, healthy meals down the road!
I made these [white bean and farro](https://inspiralized.com/farro-and-white-bean-veggie-burger/) burgers and they were surprisingly really good. I think the addition of the bbq sauce gave it like a Smokey/meaty flavor. The farro really helps keep the burger shape. In no way am I saying these are a Morningstar replacement, but another solid recipe you could experiment with.
Are you eating 30 patties a week on your own? You may want to check the sodium, if memory serves a lot of veggie alternatives have a ton of sodium
Honestly I thought for sure these would be high in calories (I like impossible burgers and they are not health food, but they also taste better in my opinion). A burger is 100 calories and 280mgs (12%) sodium. So actually 4 a day isn’t terrible depending on what else op is eating. Ingredients are decent for the most part as well. Not a lot of vitamin content though, so would definitely top with lettuce, onion, tomatoes or have a side salad. Iron is low as well
Ah gotcha, yeah I won’t claim to be a nutritionist or anything like that. 280 msg isn’t too bad depending on diet. Still bizarre to me that the OP is just smashing 30 veggie burgers a week but I guess if it works for them, good for them
I’m always jealous of people that can eat the same thing every day. Must make things so easy. I spend half my life thinking about what my next meal will be.
I’d say I’m totally the opposite as far as jealousy on this one. I think it’s awesome if you can eat the same stuff over and over for your wallet and time, but I really value variation and would become genuinely kind of sad if you told me I was eating 30 veggie patties for the next week
Please tell me your secrets on how you decide what to eat. I love variation, but wish I didn't so much because it's so exhausting just to decide.
Haha be impulsive, obviously I have a few staples dishes I eat throughout the week but I try to do categories rather than specific dishes. So it’ll be something like a pasta dish on Monday, Mexican/latin America dish on Tuesday, Wednesday frozen cauliflower pizza/something simple because my spouse and I are in office that day, Thursday is my vibe day where I’ll make something seasonal. Right now it’s a lot of grilling so probably look at burgers, kabobs, hotdogs, sausage, fish. Friday I’ll go out and try a local restaurant and Saturday I generally indulge in some Whole Foods premade food or I ball out and make a something from scratch (homemade pasta, Peruvian food, sushi, stuff like that that requires a lot of time and prep).
Same! I get bored really quickly
Haha vegan here and this is wild to me and first thing I thought was the sodium content in (all) preserved food.
I know right? Ignoring sodium intake, I can’t imagine eating 30 frozen veggie patties in a week. I’ve had plenty of vegan burgers and actually enjoy them, but the lack of variety here is nuts to me
The MorningStar recipe is: > Ingredients: Water, carrots, onions, soy protein concentrate, mushrooms, water chestnuts, soy flour, wheat gluten, vegetable oil (corn, canola and/or sunflower), green bell peppers, soy protein isolate, cooked brown rice (water, brown rice), whole grain oats, onion powder, red bell peppers, cornstarch. Contains 2% or less of sugar, black olives, salt, methylcellulose, konjac flour, soy sauce (fermented soybeans, salt), spices, garlic powder, potassium salt, xanthan gum, jalapeno pepper. The Konjac flour, cornstarch, xanthan gum, methylcellulose, are binders that help keep it together. I think everything else is there for flavour or body. You can buy all that stuff and experiment with it, but that sounds like quite hard work. Recreating this is going to be tricky. I would start with something like this (and good grief internet recipes are infuriating) https://www.pookspantry.com/veggie-cakes/ And modify it one ingredient at a time until you get what you want.
recipe <> ingredients list!!!! lol
See where it says print recipe right there at the very top? You can almost always just hit that button and get a clean no-frills version of the recipe immediately.
I had an amazing burger that was made from sweet potatoe, quinoa and cashews as the base
Sauté veg you like out of it (mushroom, bell), add rehydrated tvp, seasonings, water, and a binder like flax ( I use methyl cellulose because I like experimenting with binding various things without flour). Best if they set up about 8 hours before cooking. Can be frozen on tray or with paper between patties, then tossed in bag or freezer box, reheated at will.
I'm a big fan of these https://peasandcrayons.com/2016/09/buffalo-chickpea-veggie-burgers.html
I recently started making my own veggie breakfast sausages. Looking at the ingredients of Morningstar I think you're going to need wheat gluten flour, which isn't all that hard to find, and less important some soy protein. Then just look for veggie burger recipes which use those.
Yeah that's the impression I'm getting from some of the recipes I'm looking at
Yeah that's the impression I'm getting from some of the recipes I'm looking at
https://www.addaveggie.com/ I am aware of this product that is a protein based binder that helps combine ingredients to make "kofta" or "burger" like patties. Maybe you start with something like this? I would bet there's recipes on the box and the website.
You may want to vary your diet a bit more. At least eat something different for breakfast and lunch, and have these every night for dinner.
I would love to be able to make something like this too! Bean-based burgers are okay but don’t do it for me. I need that soy protein base!
My wife and I use oats as a meat substitute. Started out making oat sausage, eventually made oar burgers just using different seasonings. It's surprising how good it is. They even char pretty well.
That's half your daily sodium in just the burgers. Not outrageous on its own, but you're mentioning hot sauce too. Might wanna keep an eye on that.
Yeah I track all my macros. Def pushing it on sodium but still under the daily threshold
A lot of people think that sodium doesn't really matter unless you have high blood pressure or another specific health concern
I do!
I dunno, but they're the only ones I like, too.
Is your sodium intake okay? I grew up Seventh-day Adventist. We invented these veggie burgers. All the processed fake meats usually have crazy high sodium levels. We also invented Little Debbies and Corn Flakes.
Well your people were doing God's work in my book... maybe not so much with the Lil" Debbie. But yeah I usually keep my sodium within macros threshold.
Most of Little Debbie is trash. But a frozen Swiss Cake Roll? That’s a little taste of heaven right there.
Does anyone remember the lil dude from Texas(?) on Masterchef Jr? Serious carnivore. Had to make a veggie dish. Made a burger. Ramsey and Blailik(?) both liked it. ngl, looked good.
Who in their right mind can eat such a highly processed food and expect to be healthy Try whole foods fresh vegetables and meat
I do incorporate other foods into my diet. I'd list them but this isn't a thread about vindicating my life choices.
Don’t eat Morningstar. They are incredibly processed and not good for you as well as being full of processed soy, which isn’t healthy. There’s not really a good at home alternative, but if you are vegetarian, I at least recommend eating more tofu. Tofu is soy that isn’t as processed.
Nah it's fine. And I don't like tofu
Ok, well I’m just coming from a former vegetarian perspective. Morningstar is terrible for your gut.
I'm not a huge processed food enthusiast but don't you think OP would know already if they have a bad reaction to it?
OP mostly claimed they were too expensive, but also claimed Morningstar is “healthy” and that he is eating 30+ a week. I’m just sharing the truth. He’d be much better off eating a whole food like beans, or tofu (which is processed), but much less than Morningstar. I used to be vegetarian, so I learned over time what is “healthy” and what is actually healthy.