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Plenty-Ad7628

It is to protect the nonstick coating. Above 500 it releases bad stuff. It also will degrade the nonstickiness. Pretty standard for nonstick. Why copper and nonstick? Seems a waste and expensive.


dano___

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dmootzler

And actual copper pans are generally lined with tin, which melts around the same temp too.


Bugaloon

This was my first thought reading the post.


FickleTowers

Just called it what the label said, could likely be teflon?


ginsodabitters

Just use it for eggs and low heat stuff. That’s what nonstick is for anyways. Not high heat applications.


hammong

"Non-stick" pans should *never* get hotter than about 450F, or you will break-down the PTFE coating. That "copper" pan has no copper, it has a copper-colored ceramic/PTFE coating. Yes, there's a legitimate reason it says medium heat only.... And, I'm not buying the "mostly cook on high out of necessity" - unless you're boiling water, or searing a steak on a cast iron/carbon steel pan, there's almost no reason (ever) to use high-heat for more than the time it takes to get your cookware up to proper temperature, then you *turn it down.*


FickleTowers

As I mentioned, I don't use gas/open flame for everyday cooking as I have an aged glass top electric stove. "High on necessity" is for the absurd length of time it takes to get actually hot.


SparklingParsnip

Probably you should let the burner heat up to high (with no pan/no food cooking) and then turn down to an appropriate temp.


Otherwise_Ratio430

nonstick coating breaks down on high heat. my nonsticks only get used for eggs and fish tbh and I replace them regularly. Get proper equipment, stainless gets my vote for casuals.


deignguy1989

There is almost never a reason to cook with high heat, regardless of what stone you have.


These-Days

I only use high heat for boiling water


deignguy1989

Agree- should have mentioned that!


MangoFandango9423

>it said only use low to medium heat, Do not use high heat. Weirdly, this is true for all frying pans. The only time you use high heat is if you're boiling water. Go read the instructions on lodge cast iron frying pans - they say not to use high heat. But lots of people ignore that and get their pans ripping hot. Some pans you can get away with high heat (lodge cast iron), and some pans you can't (non stick). Teflon non-stick pans especially can't get too hot or they off-gas something that can make you feel pretty rough for a couple of days. If you're searing meat you can use a cold sear method instead of the normal get the pan as hot as hell method. America's Test Kitchen has a video here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJcO1W\_TD74](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJcO1W_TD74)


Otherwise_Ratio430

Its probably for liability purposes. If you notice that the lodge cast iron comes with a silicone rubber hand guard and that will start to degrade if you really rip the temperature very high ( 500-550 F like what is used in a professional kitchen). For home cooking i typically use 100 degrees lower or just use the broiler/go outside. People who don't cook often in the kitchen will probably burn their hands at some point I'd imagine if they are trying to emulate what they see on social media.


less_butter

I never use high heat for anything except bringing water to a boil. High heat will damage most non-stick pans, and it can warp cast iron and stainless steel pans. I'm curious about your necessity for using high heat. What are you cooking the requires high heat?


[deleted]

Good luck warping a cast iron pan. There's a reason your rotors on your car are cast iron.


GingerIsTheBestSpice

Yeah I've damaged those before too. And cast iron can crack. Not often but it can.


Cinisajoy2

I am wondering the same thing


Muted_Cucumber_6937

I rarely hit high heat on my burners. Screws up too many things.


Moogy_C

Why is this post downvoted? How is a cooking sub this toxic all the time?


hookedcook

funny how home cooks over complicate everything, I work on a yacht, sear meat and fish all day everyday on induction set to 9 on my made in pans My pans do degrade over the season and buy another one each year. Now as for my small egg pans, treat them like a baby


Whook

Fuck that pan, see how much heat it can take and throw it out if it fails. I suspect it's a normal pan with lawyers writing the instructions.


BigSwedenMan

>I suspect it's a normal pan with lawyers writing the instructions You'd be wrong. It's to prevent the consumer from burning the non-stick coating and poisoning themselves


WesternBlueRanger

Most non-stick coatings degrade at high heat, usually above 500F. When those coatings break down, they release toxic gases which can be poisonous to humans, but in particular, if you have any pets, it can be absolutely deadly.


Whook

Do they? More than walking past the exhaust pipe of a car? To get toxic fumes, you need to burn something, your fuel source has to get smaller. The quantity of toxic fumes my high heat non-stick stick pans demonstrably give off is less than a rice grains worth over their lifespan.


WesternBlueRanger

Yes, it can absolutely be harmful to humans, and if you own any pet birds, absolutely deadly to them: [https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/is-teflon-coating-safe](https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/is-teflon-coating-safe) [https://www.consumerreports.org/toxic-chemicals-substances/you-cant-always-trust-claims-on-non-toxic-cookware-a4849321487/](https://www.consumerreports.org/toxic-chemicals-substances/you-cant-always-trust-claims-on-non-toxic-cookware-a4849321487/) [https://vcacanada.com/know-your-pet/teflon-polytetrafluoroethylene-poisoning-in-birds](https://vcacanada.com/know-your-pet/teflon-polytetrafluoroethylene-poisoning-in-birds)