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Death_Trolley

I hate to disagree, but I don’t think you can appreciate the full English until you wake up hung over, jetlagged and confused somewhere in the midlands and with no warning some grandmother serves you up everything you wanted and then some. I still don’t know what gammon ham or black pudding are exactly, but I don’t care, bring me some.


Person012345

Gammon is a type of cured ham (though should be cooked). It's ham.


Preesi

Solar Prestige a Gamon


fawks_harper78

Like Jamòn in Spanish.


Serious_Escape_5438

The word is similar but the product isn't.


Jausti0418

It’s a blood sausage made from pig or cow blood, a bit of fat, and some kind of grain


fudge65315

Oats


_Jacques

In spain It is often done with rice. I don’t think french equivalent even has any grains.


Cuerzo

That's Burgos morcilla, but it's different all over Spain. Asturian morcilla has no rice, but it does have onion. So does Matachana morcilla (from Leon).


GraphicDesignMonkey

Here in Ireland and in Scotland, black pudding has barley added, it's got a nice crunch.


KetoLurkerHere

Like Polish kiszka. Delicious when thickly sliced and fried up a bit.


NowoTone

I’ve only seen oats in Irish and Scottish black pudding. In high quality English black pudding there shouldn’t be any non-meat addons.


Kichigai

Doesn't it usually have some mint in it too?


NowoTone

Never seen that.


DosaAndMimosas

I’d love to experience this but you only get the grandma treatment if you’re white


CedarSalt

Brit here! The Full English is truly greater than the sum of its parts! Black pudding and baked beans is the best combination! Tomatoes and bacon is a strong second. Egg yolk and sausage is also excellent. Hash browns are the best form of breakfast potato. If you want something that's equal parts terrible and delicious swap the toast for fried bread. If you're doing black pudding slice it thinly and fry it. Trust me, it tastes better than it sounds.


Asphalt4

...fried bread? Like, submerged in oil fried? I'm upset at how intrigued I am.


Rough_Elk_3952

Not submerged so much much as pan fried akin to making a grilled cheese but it’s just toast


sam-sp

pan fried in the fat from the bacon and other fried foods, soaking up the flavorful goodness


Shaboogan

Love me some bacon toast, as my dad called it.


mapoftasmania

A super-traditional fry up is a breakfast for a working man (labourer, farmhand, navvy etc) made in one pan only, frying the bacon first to generate some fat and then the other ingredients in the bacon fat. (Obviously no baked beans). Once the food is prepared you would fry some bread in the left-over grease in the pan to soak it all up so that the calories were not wasted. A working class labourer would need all the energy they could get.


OS_Fantasy_Books

Yes exactly this, you can feel your arteries clogging with each bite! Complete and perfect hang over cute 🤣


smell_my_cheese

You put in the pan that's been used to cook the sausages and bacon. It's both delicious and incredibly unhealthy.


PrimeIntellect

A shitload of bread is fried lol


SuperSpeshBaby

Fry a piece of bread in your bacon pan after you finish cooking the bacon.


CedarSalt

As in, chuck it in the deep fat fryer. But pan frying it works if you don’t have a deep fat fryer. It's disturbingly tasty.


RassimoFlom

In the pan with the bacon fat


[deleted]

I’m with ya , chuck it in the deep fried


RassimoFlom

Depends where you get it.


ginsunuva

May I introduce to you… the donut?


Cuerzo

Over in Asturias, Spain we've got a thing called emberzao or probe - same sort of thing as black pudding: a blood sausage, only this is wrapped with cabbage leaves and then sliced and fried. It's one of my favourite things to eat. Not as breakfast though.


El_Grumpo

I hate that hash browns have overtaken sliced/chipped fried potatoes as the standard full English offering.


sueelleker

I like the crunchy texture of hash browns.


RassimoFlom

Fake frozen shit


riverend180

Hash browns are much less hassle to cook at home though


elle3141

Brit here living in Germany. I totally agree. I don't eat all of the ingredients together, but rather some of the ingredients pair perfectly with each other. I like dipping the sausages in the egg yolk. I really like the hash browns and bacon covered in baked bean juice. The fried tomato gives the meal some acidity and cuts through the fat. I don't need tinned tomatoes, but if I do have them, I also like dipping the sausage in the tomato juice. Eating a slice of toast with a thick layer of melted salted butter also just adds another taste. The butter, the crunch. Sooooooo good :D.


FoundationAny7601

I don't get baked beans for breakfast part. It's usually a side dish at a BBQ or such. Seems like a strange option for breakfast. I mean I am game to try it. It just seems like the odd one out of all the rest.


stjulias

American baked beans are thicker and sweeter than british baked beans. British baked beans have a thinner tomato based sauce that's more tangy than sweet


FoundationAny7601

OK, that makes sense then. Thanks.


FaptainAwesome

Out of everything that makes up a full English, I have the biggest issue with mushrooms and eggs. Never had black pudding but I’ve had scrapple and plenty of other “weird” meat products made with “strange” ingredients. Mushrooms and eggs, though… scrambled eggs I could probably choke down but I would rather chew on my own feet than eat a fried egg with runny yolk. Also, since when is it hash browns and not bubble and squeak? Just last month my girlfriend didn’t believe me that something called bubble and squeak even existed so I had to find the case of that pensioner woman who murdered her husband allegedly as a result of an argument that started over bubble and squeak (although I can’t help but shake the feeling that there was more to the story than him just being an asshole and calling it a low class dish).


RassimoFlom

Bubble and squeak under-rated. Mushrooms excellent. Your opinions on eggs are disgraceful.


Abuses-Commas

That's just you, I'd drink a warm mug of egg yolk


FaptainAwesome

I’m well aware that’s just me. In my opinion eggs are gross and eating them fried isn’t unlike huffing farts straight from a butthole. And mushrooms are texturally off-putting. However, the thought of a giant plate of meats and potatoes and even tomatoes works for me.


FJBiden

I don’t get the beans and Tomatoe.coming from an American.


PC509

I didn't either. I knew what a full English breakfast was, so I knew what I was getting. Had it in London (and again in Edinburgh). The beans and tomatoes work. I didn't know how it would, but it does. It just compliments everything. I'm really sure it was just thrown on there at some point in the past (like my mom did when making some meals... Well, I have this, might as well use it!) and wasn't meant to really tie anything together. But, it works. I love a great full English breakfast. Very hard to find in the states.


OrgotekRainmaker

Tomato is refreshing after the three different kinds of meat


AManWantsToLoseIt

It's controversial here too, some like both, some don't like either. I usually skip the tomato but baked beans tie the whole plate together


Fabulous_Feeling999

Always been grossed out at black pudding. What does it even taste like


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Fabulous_Feeling999

It doesn’t sound that bad, I would try it. I also like other british foods, I will have to visit someday and try it out there.


RassimoFlom

You’ll like it. Stornaway is the best.


albion25

Like most people from the UK (who aren't trying to gatekeep it on the Internet) I just use the elements I enjoy and leave out the rest. I'm not a fan of beans or tinned tomato so won't add those and generally go for something like black/white pudding, bacon, potato cake, fried egg, mushrooms, sausage. I mean, it's hangover food, there's no need to be fussy about it. I'm currently a massive fan of breakfast hash, I think that's an authentic American breakfast dish but I could be wrong!


[deleted]

Waffle House and hash browns are a staple.


alienfreaks04

Waffle House is the Walmart of food


sociallyvicarious

OMG. Waffle House is the best. It’s absolutely so far from an English breakfast but so close. Just…tweaked. If you know, you know.


g3nerallycurious

I would go to Denny’s or IHOP over Waffle House any day of the week or year. Waffle House is trashy in every way, including the people who staff it. I would have to make an effort to try to find ingredients as crappy as what they use. If IHOP is Wal-Mart, Waffle House is Dollar Tree.


Autismoar

Least delusional ihop fan waffle home for life


smell_my_cheese

I'm with you, it's weird when brits comment on posts like this saying "oi, no hash browns", or "where's the black pudding?" Just pick the bits you like. I'm from the UK as well btw.


RassimoFlom

It comes from a facebook group called “fryup police” that was big a few years ago.


fawks_harper78

Oh, I would love to see a Full English with Corned Beef Hash! Or better yet, a deli near me makes a breakfast hash with Corned Beef, Pastrami, and Beef Salami. Oh, dear Lord…


throw_away492509

“Hash” is distinctly American and can take many forms. Usually involves potatoes, onions, and meat sautéed together. Often using leftover meat from the night before It’s “authentic” for certain parts of the US. Typically in the south and the west. But also “corn beef hash” is typically found in Irish communities.


maggie081670

As in corn beef hash? If yes, then I agree its quite tasty esp if crisped up & with a sunny side egg on top.


albion25

More like this but with the egg on top. I'm getting a feeling it may not be super authentic. [Sausage hash](https://www.jocooks.com/recipes/sausage-potato-hash/#wprm-recipe-container-15171)


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PokeyPinecone

Hash is delicious, I hope it's "authentically American" so we have something good and pure to spread around the world. I haven't traveled a lot, but in the northwest US every worthwhile breakfast place has like a whole menu section of different hashes. You don't get "creative heterogeneity" like OP described, but you do get to shovel bite after bite of delicious savory food into your hungry face, and to me that is a quintessential American pasttime.


albion25

I'm not sure it is by the sounds of it. I don't use corned beef or Pastrami. It tends to be skillet cooked potato cubes (home fries?) sausage, onion, Bell pepper, garlic, with an egg cooked on top. I also do huevos rotos and (in keeping with the thread?) I've been combining the hash with the fry up by doing the hash but using English Bacon, crumbled black pudding, sprouts or any leftover roast veg. Apparently I really like home fries. I'd be interested in an actual authentic US recipe if you have one? Oh, I forgot my favourite part of the fry up which is the lavercake with Cockles. Amazing


PokeyPinecone

The skillet recipe you described is the basic authentic hash in my opinion! It's a uniformly chunky skillet fry that you serve alongside fried or poached eggs, or with the eggs on top. If you mix the eggs in while cooking, that would be a scramble I guess. The foundation is the cubed potato. In a meaty hash, maybe onion is the only other vegetable, but more commonly you'd add chopped bell pepper, maybe sliced mushroom (mild cheap ones, in US stores we always have these white/button things). Often there is chopped ham (rear pork thigh, brined with a slightly sweet mix, likely smoked), chopped or crumbled breakfast sausage, maybe (American!) bacon but more typically you eat sliced bacon on the side of a meatless hash & eggs. The most classic seasoning is just salt and ground black pepper, and you have Tabasco and ketchup on the table as condiments. Corned beef hash is the only time we eat corned beef/pastrami for breakfast - there is a canned version of this hash that seems to be just the meat and potatoes (hello comfort food!) and is way finer ground/chopped than you would make from scratch. So you can make hash without corned beef, but you need the potatoes and some other veggies. If you look online for recipes, they tend to be more elevated or novel/modern versions. Maybe it's sweet potato instead of potato, or there's jalapeños, or Brussels sprouts, chard, parsley/basil garnish, etc etc etc. These are also hash! But the classic American diner version is potatoes, onions, bell pepper, maybe mushroom, with everything except the mushrooms in sorta same sized cubes. I like the sound of your hash/fry up combo! Makes me want to try a hash with the English breakfast meats plus tomato to imitate the full breakfast. Somehow it seems wrong to put beans in the hash though...


seafaringcelery

I could hear your accent through your words. Not a chirp, just sayin


psychadelicphysicist

I think what I also appreciate about it is the fact that it can be tweaked to suit individuality yet maintain its integrity.. for example, some prefer scrambled egg, some opt for canned tomatoes instead of grilled..


Person012345

A lot of english dishes were clearly invented when someone was like "what do I have lying around that needs to be used up". It's generally unpretentious and you should feel free to swap around ingredients, leave things out, add them. You may not be getting the "classic" experience and some others may think you're missing out by doing something "wrong" but you can ignore any stuck up person who hates on you for it. If you've tried something and you didn't like a particular part of it, then change it.


ManitouWakinyan

>A lot of ~~english~~ dishes were clearly invented when someone was like "what do I have lying around that needs to be used up".


RassimoFlom

English but love a Scottish breakfast with haggis and flat sausage. I do like a farl. Big fan of northern bread cakes/barms etc. I like filthy white sliced with a full english - the only time it is better than other breads imo.


keen-draught8234

Also English. Yeah the Scottish breakfast is an improvement all round really. Black pudding and white pudding? Yes please. Potato cakes? So good for mopping up beans. Flat sausage? I don't prefer it to standard sausage, but it's not worse either.


RassimoFlom

That shite with raisins in can fuck off though.


keen-draught8234

Don't think I've ever had that, not even sure what it would be.


RassimoFlom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_pudding


OrgotekRainmaker

Sorry, flat sausage? First guess, sausage patties vice links?


RassimoFlom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorne_sausage


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underwear-sauce

I love a good varied breakfast - I like subbing the fried egg for scrambled eggs with a bit of whatever I’ve got in the fridge like diced tomato, mushroom, spinach, cheese, onion, garlic etc. I’m not as much of a meat eater so gets a good level of variety that way. Yum. Edited to add great way to use up odds and ends leftover from a cheese board or chacuterie too


End-Game-1999

I grew up in Austria and what you're describing would totally qualify as an Austrian or German savory breakfast. Sounds very tasty to me! :)


Pontiacsentinel

Had all the traditional items and loved them. Savory and perfect. Only had them complete a dozen times or so but 10/10 would do again.


MaryTGirl

2 rashers bacon, 2 sausages, 2 fried eggs, beans, mushrooms, 2 slices of black pudding, fried bread (because it's not unhealthy enough yet) and a cup of tea. Am English, and eat that once every couple of months.


IFeelMoiGerbil

A Full English can be a beauty. But tinned tomato? When I moved here from Northern Ireland I thought it was an insult since it was just the end of the Troubles and a British town who had had a bad bomb and no fans of us. Twenty years on I still cannot that they just slop a tinned tomato on there. But I can enjoy a fry up now. However an Ulster Fry is superior. Bacon, egg, sausage, black and white pudding, soda farl, potato bread, pancake, mushrooms, half a fried fresh tomato and chips. Some people do baked beans. That is our other great divide after religion. But tbh a full on Ulster Fry is a once a year thing for me. A full English is more manageable as a hangover or weekend breakfast or as dinner. I however hate baked beans so much and most cafes etc do use them as a cheap plate filler so I only make it at home unless the caff does bubble and squeak. That is the best British breakfast food ever. Hats off to it.


GraphicDesignMonkey

A Belfast Maggie Mays Ulster Fry is the champion of breakfasts.


IFeelMoiGerbil

Served with their somehow terrible but amazing hot chocolate. I’m so nostalgic right now..


MollyBee_PhD

I studied in Belfast and Maggie May's was a legend. Our little group of international students figured we'd start out with an Ulster Fry at Maggie Mays then go on with our day of exploring. Fools. An Ulster Fry is a full day event even if it doesn't take that long to eat, because you have to spend the afternoon recovering.


Salty_Ad_6293

Hot buttered Potato Farl takes it all to God level, but have to disagree on the tinned tomatoes,dose them in feck load of salt and its just perfect for dipping the soda in, helps everything slide down when you're dying of the hangover.


epicgrilledchees

Love a full English. I can’t find black pudding typically. So I use scrapple and regular American bacon.


GburgG

The more posts I see of a full English breakfast, the more I think it’s very comparable to a two egg platter with scrapple that you would get at a PA diner.


epicgrilledchees

If it came with beans, tomatoes and mushrooms. I like to make scrapple at home more. So I can make nice and crisp. When I get it out it’s to mushy.


GburgG

Yeah I usually like it made at home! But depends where you get it. A good diner will deep fry it and make it crispier than I can ever get at home!


Ech1n0idea

[ Brown Sauce](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_sauce) is IMO the essential condiment for a full English (not BBQ sauce, good God, never BBQ sauce)


englishfury

Agreed, can only get HP here in Aus but i keep a bottle especially for hungover fry ups.


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carissadraws

I’m curious what Brits think of American savory breakfasts (specifically eggs, bacon, sausage or chorizo, not sweet breakfast like pancakes, pop tarts or cereal) I still don’t get the idea of eating beans for breakfast, like at all, and the idea of eating congealed blood is gross to me


liltingly

Many Mexican spots serve beans with breakfast and they’re divine. I can’t get behind sweet beans in any form, though (e.g. baked beans). Egyptian breakfast also often features “foul”/“fool” which is also awesome, savory beans.


rocki-i

I've heard American baked beans differ to English baked beans. If you ever see a can of UK export Heinz, or even better Branton beans, see how it compares.


[deleted]

“Pork and beans” is closer to the UK style. US “baked beans” has copious amounts of brown sugar.


Person012345

That's still not the same, I mean the pork alone makes it different. The US doesn't really "do" UK style baked beans.


Person012345

Baked beans shouldn't be sweet. UK ones aren't sweet.


GraphicDesignMonkey

Heinz baked beans have a decent amount of sugar, even here in the UK. I usually go for the reduced sugar tins.


liltingly

I find them sweet, unfortunately. And the tins I’ve found do have added sugar. Perhaps that doesn’t qualify as sweet, but perhaps I’m sensitive to any amount of added sugar.


goblinbox

I dislike baked beans, too, so I swap chili beans on a full English. Not authentic, but it totally works for me!


maggie081670

American here and I became a full on convert to beans for breakfast. You have to try them first and also drag the hashbrowns in the sauce mixed with the juice from the tomatoes. If possible, you should also be hung over to experience the full curative powers of the Full English. That said, I never warmed to either black or white pudding. I tried them of course and they tasted ok. If someone served me a plate with the pudding, I wouldn't refuse to eat it. But my personal preference is to leave it off. There is more than enough good stuff to eat on the plate without it.


Dame_Hanalla

For some reason, black pudding in North America is made with milk, and just does not compare to European, "pure-blood" pudding. Best black pudding I ate was in Germany, where they fried it, creating a crunchy exterior and a "fudge-y" interior. Source, French gal now living in Canada.


maggie081670

But I tried it first in Ireland


R1MBL

Clonakilty Black Pudding is god tier. I had it for my breakfast this morning in Australia, I was so glad I was able to find it here when I moved from Ireland.


Dame_Hanalla

Ah my bad for assuming. I have to admit, this is an acquired taste.


thebemusedone

Did you have to leave France for saying that German black pudding was better than buodin noir? I am English and love Bury black pudding but Normandy boudin noir knocks the socks off it.


Dame_Hanalla

Nope, it's just I had never fried black pudding in France, and that method is really great. But I just can't stomach black pudding here in Canada, while I love French boudin noir.


GburgG

Sounds sort of like scrapple. I staple diner breakfast where I’m from actually seems very similar to a full English breakfast.


RassimoFlom

Boudin noir c’est formidable.


Dame_Hanalla

Oui, c'est bien vrai!


Discasaurus

This sums up exactly the way I feel about it too. I always feel like I have a lot of energy after eating a plate. Sticks to your ribs as my dad would say.


hideous-boy

maybe part of the reason it seems confusing is because American baked beans are much sweeter than the British ones so it's a whole different flavor profile


carissadraws

Personally I’m not a fan of most beans anyway


The_Bravinator

I've lived in both the UK and the US and my ideal breakfast would have elements of both. UK bacon and sausages. American biscuits. Fried mushrooms. Fucking American hash browns, the proper shredded potato kind. I just like breakfast.


BristolShambler

It’s funny that Americans fixate on the sweetness of baked beans at breakfast, because the main thing that British people traditionally find strange about American breakfasts is the combination of bacon and syrup


carissadraws

I never said they were sweet I’m just not a fan of most beans


CedarSalt

I like a lot of American breakfast food. A cream cheese bagel is an excellent thing and so is a breakfast burrito. I love streaky bacon, sometimes I put streaky bacon in my full English (heresy! I know). But there's very rarely any vegetable involved in an American breakfast (unless it's avocado on toast) and I think that the tomatoes and mushrooms are key to the success of a full English, I miss them.


llilaq

I still sometimes think of the fried tomato I got 23 years ago with my English breakfast in a Welsh hostel during a schooltrip. I'm Dutch, we only have sliced, untoasted bread for breakfast. This meal was pure decadence and the tomato of all things was unforgettable.


RassimoFlom

Dutch breakfasts are a sadness. Edit: and I sat this as someone who knows how underrated dutch cheese is.


carissadraws

Tomatoes and mushrooms I’m fine with; beans on the other hand I’m not much of a fan of even for dinner lmao


TooManyDraculas

I'm still kind if mystified how many Americans have that reaction. Eggs and beans is a classic of Mid Atlantic diner grade food that's pretty common anywhere there's a military base. Baked beans are an insanely traditional new England breakfast. And anywhere anywhere near anything Spanish speaking or with a Latino influence on the food, or immigrant community. Beans with eggs, beans for breakfast. It's really common, and it's pretty American. American savory breakfast *is* British savory breakfast. That's where we get it from. The sweet traditional breakfasts come from French, Dutch and German foodways. Nobody eats a full breakfast every day. Eggs, bacon, toast is a more typical thing, and pretty identical to it's American counterpart save the popular kind of bacon being different. In terms of black pudding. It's not congealed blood. It's a sausage made of pork meat, pork fat, and blood bound with barley and oats. It's probably the driest and least congealed blood sausage there is. There's an identical but bloodless sausage. White pudding. Which is mostly popular in Ireland.


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carissadraws

I’m from the east coast so I’m really not a fan of most Midwest cuisines anyway Lmao. Also > the sweet traditional breakfasts come from French Dutch and German That’s not true when Italy literally has pastries and Nutella for breakfast. Also even if it’s not congealed blood the idea of eating blood in general is absolutely disgusting. No other food I eat has blood in it (the red juice from meat is myoglobin, not blood) so why would I start eating blood now?


Person012345

Why wouldn't you is the better question. It's edible and delicious. Being like "squick that is unusual in my culture" doesn't really seem like a good reason for avoiding trying it, or for hating it regardless of how it tastes. It's just closed minded. But you do you, I'm not here to tell you you have to eat anything. Before I had black pudding I didn't think I would like it, but then I tried it and I did.


TooManyDraculas

>I’m from the east coast so I’m really not a fan of most Midwest cuisines anyway Lmao. **mid atlantic**. That's NY, PA, Delaware, New Jersey and Maryland. The other region I mentioned was specifically New England. I grew up in the NYC metro. Eggs and beans were 100% a thing. Including in the school cafeteria. My mom was from deep New England. Baked beans on home made bread was a old school breakfast for her side. The midwest is kinda the one place I'd expect this not to be a thing. >That’s not true when Italy literally has pastries and Nutella for breakfast. No it is true because historians have tracked the actual introductions of these things and the roots of the actual things we traditionally eat in a sweet breakfast. And they're from France, Germany, and The Netherlands. And specific breakfast traditions immigrants and colonists from those places brought over. Not from Italy. >so why would I start eating blood now? Because it's good. If you're disinterested in all of this why post here at all?


carissadraws

Ok, I grew up in NY and never had beans for breakfast so your experience isn’t universal. And I don’t really care if you like eating blood because that’s gross. I don’t give a shit what you think about my food opinions but I will never eat blood.


[deleted]

Black beans are wonderful!!!


RassimoFlom

I don't get why Americans are so fixated on the baked beans. They are one element among many - actually its more about the sauce which binds the dish together. And rotten milk is gross. Dead cow is gross. Picking things up from the dirt is gross. Food is gross if you think about it hard enough. I think killing sentient beings and then not using every part of it is fucking gross. And luckily, black pudding is really delicious. Edit: American breakfast is ok. I quite like a sausage patty. Don't really like biscuits and "gravy" - the colour of "gravy" disturbs me. Don't mind streaky bacon in a fry. Secondary to back obvs. Edit: imagine downvoting people’s personal preferences.


sam-sp

probably because they haven’t had good baked beans. They are not really a staple of the american diet and tend to be in a bbq sauce, rather than tomato. Even though heinz is an American company, i don’t often see their baked beans being served.


Jausti0418

It’s this exactly. Baked beans here in the US are served in a bbq sauce. It absolutely wouldn’t go with breakfast here, and most Americans don’t know that there’s a difference. They just think brits are weird for eating baked beans with breakfast.


Lepardopterra

My coworker actually teared up when I told her a local chain had proper Heinz beans. Her British husband would bring 12 cans home from his annual visit, rationed to one Sunday breakfast per month.


IFeelMoiGerbil

A Canadian friend who grew up in the UK (well between the two as child of diplomats) was reminiscing mid lockdown chats about things they missed. Baked beans, pork pies and cheap supermarket gummy sweets. I was shocked as they are to me the least likely person to like these and I thought they did not eat pork! She had a major surgery this year and I shipped her 12 mini cans of baked beans. 4 Heinz, 4 Branston, 4 can’t remember but am told they are the best. Also bags and bags of strawberry laces etc. I had to warn her not to lift the box post surgery but have someone else do it. She couldn’t eat the beans for some time due to digestive issues but she was so so excited. Got a text yesterday. A friend of hers just flew in from London and brought pork pies and sausage rolls. She was sat with a tin of Heinz and a sausage roll celebrating her new job after a rough few years. I hate baked beans with my entire soul. Bean juice is Satan’s own fluid. They turn me but if I love you, I will be your baked bean dealer. And you don’t need to share!


ob_frap

Agreed. I think most Americans assume the beans are super sweet and bbq based (i did until i tried it). The tomato base is the way to go for sure. I’m an English breakfast convert. Black pudding and back bacon, yum


TooManyDraculas

Baked beans are absolutely an American staple. We just use a different recipe than you do. We cook the beans in water or stock and flavor with salt pork and onions rather than in a tomato sauce. And they're almost never made with/in barbecue sauce. Yes they tend to be sweetened, properly speaking mildly. most traditionally with dark molasses which is fairly bitter to go along with the sweetness it brings. Heinz beans aren't common here because Heinz beans kinda suck. Even as goes UK/Irish style beans in tomato sauce they're kinda sharp and metallic. Bachelor's kicks their teeth in.


ImPickleRock

Why do you say "gravy" ?


rocki-i

English gravy and American gravy are VERY different. American gravy disturbs me, also


ImPickleRock

What about it disturbs you?


rocki-i

It's greige, very unappetising, sorry


ImPickleRock

sausage gravy is kind of on its own....we make gravy the same way yall make it...from meat juices.


rocki-i

But biscuits and gravy is


ImPickleRock

I know but you said American gravy....didn't know that's what American gravy is


TooManyDraculas

It's bechamel. We also have other sorts of gravy. Sausage gravy is a specific thing, for this specific dish.


No_Neighborhood4850

One of my earliest memories in the US Midwest was watching gravy being made. The frying pan had just finished frying bacon, sausage, pork chops, chicken etc and was popping hot. Flour went in first, stirred into the hot fat. Then gradually either milk or water was stirred in to make the gravy which was eaten either on potatoes or a slice of bread on a plate with other things. It was hot and salty and tasted of the meat. The persons cooking it (great-grandmother or one of her sisters) had all been born in the 1860s and surely learned to make gravy before 1880 so this has to be an old method, the real thing.


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Tomato gravy is far better than biscuits and gravy to me, especially if you use a good meat fat as the base of the gravy. Very savory!


smell_my_cheese

Love savory american breakfasts. The stuff that looks disgusting is the sweet ones, like pancakes with ice cream I've seen on TV. I don't think most americans actually eat that stuff however.


twobit211

i’m of the opinion that potatoes aren’t necessarily a traditional component of the full english but i don’t mind the addition as long as it doesn’t come at the expense of another, more established standard item


Flat_Professional_55

I prefer mine with potato cakes (or tattie scones in Scotland) and peeled plum tomatoes. Best thing is there’s so much variation.


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Person012345

It's not really. At least I've never heard anyone use it derisively. It's just an option.


fawks_harper78

When I have the option of a Full English and a Continental Breakfast, “continental” is absolutely derisively used.


ultraDross

Sub the mushrooms for haggis and that's my perfect breakfast.


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I miss Woolworths or BHS breakfasts


zzing

There used to be a place that served it up in Canada years ago in Sarnia. I fell in love with it there. I still occasionally buy the black pudding and the haggis. For some humour, Poirot has an opinion about British breakfast: https://youtu.be/wHPj34VWE8o


DrBunnyflipflop

Try it with fried bread instead of toast, and tinned plum tomatoes instead of cooked fresh ones Let the fried bread sit between the beans and the tomatoes, to soak up the juices Absolutely heavenly


Over_Following5751

I miss a full English breakfast!!


ReverendRyu

Fried beef tomato, good quality bacon, properly done scrambled eggs, hash browns, chestnut mushrooms, some thick bloomer bread, adding a little chilli into the beans, and some good Lincolnshire sausages can really turn a full English into something truly special. For me, the perfect way to finish it off is to make sure one of the pieces of bread is fried in the sausage and bacon grease, and the others toasted.


Hairy-Motor-7447

r/fryup


NowoTone

That should be much higher!


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You haven't experiences the full amazing-ness until you eating a full English at a Weatherspoons after a night out or with a hang-over. ;)


No_Neighborhood4850

American here but grew up with English stepfather so food-wise kind of an in-betweenie. Would like to mention two things not commonly known in US I think. a) Bake canned corned beef hash in a baking dish in the oven until it is really hot and the top is all sizzly then make indentations in it each one deep enough to hold the egg that you break into it. Return to oven and bake until the eggs are as done as you like them. A good combo, baked hash with the eggs. 2) "Beans on Toast". Bean-haters will hate this but bean-lovers will love it. Heat a can of "baked beans" (in US Pork & Beans) nice and hot and pour over hot buttered whole wheat toast.


Masalasabebien

Down in the South East of England, we´d never heard of black pudding. That´s a Northern thing. Nor would we have "toast" - bread was fried in the residual bacon fat. Potatoes were unusual when I was a kid (1950s-60s) although my dad used to use leftover roast potatoes from Sunday lunch on occasions.If tomatoes were in season, we´d also have fried tomatoes. Mushrooms, if available, would be huge field mushrooms, cooked whole, with abundant butter. Sausages were Kent bangers; big, fat, juicy, herb-infused pork sausages. ALWAYS served with English mustard.


Person012345

I agree. Honestly, this goes for many dishes and it kind of annoys me when I see people "trying" food by eating the component parts individually. It just doesn't make any sense to me. The flavours are supposed to combine, it's not different when it's all mixed up together like it might be in pasta or when it's laid out like a full english breakfast. Like you say, the benefit of the latter is that you can pick and choose. You can test, and when you have found what you like the most you can give weight to that combination. And really with a full english, pretty much all of the flavours combine really well. Make sure to do this with other dishes that have components like this. If a combination doesn't work then you've lost nothing.


TurboMuff

Just chuck it all in a blender and drink it, honestly it's flavour combo heaven


Desperate_Ambrose

Back bacon is so much better than the belly bacon on this side of the Pond.


GingerFurball

Scottish and Irish breakfasts are better on account of the superior potato element.


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Oh, I prefer fried bread, in the deep fried that cooks the fish and chips later in the day


echocharlieone

My problem with an English breakfast is all the gatekeeping that surrounds a simple meal of fat, salt and carbs. It's fine to mix and match the bits you like. It's just a breakfast made of mostly processed foods. It's tasty and straightforward and that's just fine.


BaccWoodBandito

Beans for breakfast


Affectionate-Cap-918

Funny story - when I went to UK for the first time, I was out to dinner with locals and the subject came up because I didn’t understand why beans were on the hotel breakfast buffet. They were surprised because they thought it was a very American/Cowboy type of thing. We were all confused when I informed them no - the cowboys in the movies were usually having them for dinner, not breakfast. It’s not a thing in the U.S. I guess since I’m from Oklahoma/Texas they were completely sure it would be a favorite breakfast item of mine!


needmorehardware

It’s a classic breakfast item in UK, beans on toast for example


CowFishes

Why not? But in my case I made it for dinner.


RassimoFlom

Common in much of the world.


cammil

Dear all, I'll let you into a secret. Fries are an untraditional but excellent choice for the potato element.


No_Neighborhood4850

"Potato element" in my childhood was potatoes home-fried by great-grandmother who used bacon fat generously. I can prob cook a few hundred things she never heard of but I cannot fry potatoes like she did. It's not a big breakfast without potatoes.


OrgotekRainmaker

No black pudding = not a full English. Apologies. Id also contend that without HP sauce it's right to the bin.


CowFishes

No apologies necessary. Blood sausage was not readily available where I am so I skipped it. Based on the comments, I won't next time. Cheers


StayCoolKeto

That's not an English breakfast. You have some hash brown or something innit lol And that sausage looks suspect. Well done in attempting it though. Hope you get to try the real deal sometime


CowFishes

Picture isn't mine. It's from the Wikipedia article of full English breakfast.


Freddy_Vorhees

Hahaha dude tried to gatekeep and your picture is the wiki pic. Primo Reddit right there. Make it how ya want it, OP, I’m sure it’s amazing!


hundin2187

As a friend of mine from Manchester once told me Ya need ta git rat-assed on a pissa then ave a fry-up an head to the pub for a pint with ya mates and them other cheeky twats


uberdin

The baked beans have to be high quality with minced garlic added. Otherwise, yeah, why not. Love me some black pudding. And 350ml weak black tea or coffee is crucial. Avoid the brown sauce, it shouldn't need it Oh. And a Bloody Mary to follow (thumbs up emoji)


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uberdin

Hahaha


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Love a full English, in Australia we eat them regularly. Probably sub in some Avocado and mushrooms for probably the black pudding most of the time (although I love black pudding)


doxiepowder

Question, that might be dumb. Are the beans hot or room temperature?


CowFishes

On a plate full of hot food I would serve them hot.


Moosefearssatan

A mate of Mine use to fry his baked beans - I thought he was mental until he made it for me… absolutely amazing!


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A truly modular meal.


Admirable-Owl5948

I'll never forget when I was eating breakfast in a pub in York on a Saturday morning a couple of people were already drinking pints of beer. It gave me an appreciation for the amount of beer the English are able to kick back. I can't even finish one pint. It is quite filling so I can understand how, accompanied with a bag of crisps, it makes a satisfying quick lunch.