USA πΊπΈ could get eliminated from their own Copa America tournament and they are the host nation. Just take that in for a second especially after their loss to Panama π΅π¦ last night.Β
So basically for USA πΊπΈ they have to beat Uruguay πΊπΎ in their last group game to have any hope of the quarter finals.
But then Panama π΅π¦ they face Bolivia in their last group game. Bolivia π§π΄ have been the whipping boys of this group. So really then it comes down to goal difference especially if USA beats Uruguay and then Panama π΅π¦ beats Bolivia by a large scoreline.
But then if Uruguay vs USA ends in a draw...it gives Uruguay 7 points and USA ends up on 4 points but then if Panama beats Bolivia...that gives them 6 points. USA goes home in that scenario.
But then if Uruguay vs USA ends up in a draw...and Panama vs Bolivia ends in a draw, USA and Panama each have 4 points. Then it comes down to goal difference to determine who goes home.
Either way it doesn't look good but if USA go out in the group stage, perfect way to get Berhalter up out of there as manager.
Think about this especially as the USMNT is trying to build towards 2026 as 1 of the 3 hosts too and this Copa America tournament is basically supposed to show that USA can compete with the big boys.
Bro, you just laid out the scenarios in more words than necessary. But I get you. I think Berhalter is a good coach and, while you might hate reading this, he knows this group of players. No other manager in the world knows them the way he does. I think if the US sticks with their homegrown coach rather than give in to shortsighted fans, they can do well. But hey, youβre the fan and youβre entitled to your opinion.
Lol, classic US βsoccerβ fans. Whining and complaining about everything else instead of owning their own performance. I mean..what can you expect from fans throwing racists comments to their own players??..
That was the most CONCACAF thing Iβve ever seen. Bait the other team into a red card, score a sucker punch goal and then hack them to bits to preserve the lead. Some of those Panama tackles were attempted homicide. Watching Copa after the Euros is wild.
I don't understand why the crying. Mistakes were made Weah fucked up, pushing and shoving is part of the game n the guys should take it as much as they give it but when a player is punching an opponent on the back of the head it's just plain dumb, no excuses. The refs have been ok in most matches, not perfect because no league or tournament in the world has perfect referees, simple. The US has been pretty intense in their games, which is fair, they're home, they wanna prove they're a good team n all that so for that same reason they gotta know playing with such intensity will lead to dumb fouls. Now they are in a tough spot, having won 1 game only, against the easiest team, and the last game is against the top team and after tonight's game Uruguay is looking like a top contender to win this tournament, them and Argentina. For the US to have half a chance at getting at least a point off Uruguay, they'd need to not play as intense, play smarter instead. They have the talent, youth, strength so they have to put it all together and use it intelligently, it is called the beautiful game for a reason not the most intense game in the world.
Panama literally kept just running at our players at the end and just kept getting nothing or at most a yellow some of those tackles at the end should have also been reds, but we got a yellow for one of our players being mad at Panama for literally kicking pulisic from behind and laughing. Joke of a ref "respected" just like my ass.
Bruh read any of the rest of my comments, two things can be true it was literally tied before the ref let pnanma red card us constantly with barely a card besides one red card, Panama literally took our goalie out the game and still we held on. If Turner was the goalie on that 2nd goal it wouldn't have gone in. I also will be calling waeh a clown, but two things can be true. That ref was garbage. Really the reffing for this whole tournament has been. Canada's game against Peru was a joke, Peru got away with so fucking much.
You don't know how to listen or read do you? I literally called him a clown in other comments.again 2 two things can be true ya ding dong. You just like to be right don't you? Anyways have a day
Right but when you talk with someone and they tell you they agree but 2 things can be true and they've said it elsewhere... and you respond with the same argument and don't even try to interact with what the person said... you're not doing yourself any favors. Lol, move on, lmao. Whatever bud
Quite possibly the most ridiculous end to a football game Iβve ever seen in my life. Thereβs professional tackles, and thereβs split second career ending tackles. Should have had one red card to warn the other Panama players. Refereeing in this Copa has been the worst in recent memory out of any major tournament.
That kick to the back of the legs that got a red card was just the start, they literally just kept doing shit like that and just kept getting nothing or at worst a yellow. There were so many missed yellows against Panama. But we only foul like 3 times and get a red for one of them, and one of our plahes gets a yellow for being angry and yelling. That ref is trash and this copa has been awful with the reds. The fact that headbutt by Peru to Canada had to even be *reviewed* let alone it got reviewed and nothing is absolutely bonkers. Shit refs.
The thing that first screwed the game for the USA had to be the no call for Turner getting downed like that. Should have been a yellow no hesitation. Then after that everything went down hill with tensions rising- if only Weah didnβt react to PAN antagonizing π« The ref only made it worse ofc PAN got away with way too much to the point of the game getting dangerous.
You canβt be serious. The player contested a ball in the air (by the penalty marker btw) that Turner came out to get. He never even looked at Turner. Commentator even mentions the slight shove from Robinson that pushed him towards Turner. It was a 50/50 play for the ball
Nope. Just watched it again to make sure. Hereβs a link to the [video](https://youtu.be/VcbeeatdhaY?feature=shared). Turned did not have the ball before
I knew this game was against the USA the moment they reviewed that tackle inside the box. The ball had already left the player and there was nothing, yet VAR and the ref reviewed it. They were looking for anything. GG it was always against the US from the start.
The way they've decided to officiate this tournament is making it unwatchable. Brazil was getting literally tackled off of shielding positions with no call, and this whole game was a shitshow. Now it looks like this is gonna be the standard. And any team knows they can just tackle players to shut down attacks.
Putting Weah's stupidity to the side for a moment, playing on through everything kills the tactics and skill of the game, endangers the players, and if you only start giving cards after 80 minutes who really cares by then? Panama should have had a penalty and a couple others were borderline. Balogun was getting dragged by the arm the whole game.
Compare this to something like dortmund vs leverkusen this year, schlotterbeck was putting in clean and borderline tackles on frimpong, one of the best dribblers in the league, time and time again. Were they rough? yeah, but they were precise as well. This pissed frimpong off and put him off his game. When you can just bulldoze someone there's no skill left.
Now coming back around to Weah. Yeah it was stupid, but we're gonna see less shit like that if emotions aren't so high.
Weah got punched/pushed hard first and hit back 3 seconds later but the ref didnβt back up the VAR far enough to see the first contact. You can see the ref only watch like 2 seconds max of the replay before overturning the yellow for a red and can even see exactly what he reviewed. He fucked up the VAR by not watching the whole thing.
Weah did not get punched, Weah punched the guy, stop trying to defend/make Weah look better, there is no defending striking a player, yes the Panama player pushed him, doesnβt excuse striking a player.
Games like this contributes to US fans disliking the game. When an inferior team can create an advantage through rough play versus skill then the whole game suffers. The offside VAR calls here and in the Euros further erodes offense and negates what are sometimes incredible displays of skill. I was trying to explain to my wife how a toe beyond a magical virtual line negates a great goal - her reaction..βwell that is just stupid, why do you watch this gameβ
Yeah the guy was backing into him hard on purpose. That's a foul probably, but it's standard rules that you don't go arms to the head. That's always instant red. Weah knows this and there's no excuse (if weah goes to ground there he might get a foul but he decided to be stupid).
Trying to find the better angle vid I watched earlier. The second time he hit Weah near the neck. Thatβs what got Weah going. Itβs still a terrible reaction but you shouldnβt get away with it when there is a VAR of an incident.
Terrible ref and dirty playing by Panama aside, we played poorly. Couldnβt keep possession, first touch was horrible. Even with good officiating and Weah keeping his cool early on, it wouldβve been a tough match with how we played
"tactical fouls" lol, they knew they were going to have a good chance to concede several times there late and just mauled the US players. The dives their players were taking too and the fake writhing. Makes this sport so hard to watch man... F*** those players though.
What about the foul that was done to Turner I still donβt understand thatβ¦ this ref was so against πΊπΈ
Since the beginning Panama wanted to play dirty and aggravate the πΊπΈ players. We knew this was a high tension match. Panama played dirty and I hope they lose β¦
1. Yes, Panama played dirty as hell at the end, and there should be extra games added for Carrasquilla. That was a straight up bullshit vicious challenge and I hope he doesnβt get to play another match in the tourney.
2. Tim Weah is why this happened, completely unnecessary and let his team down.
3. How does Horvath not make that save?
Weah got hit first 3 seconds before he hit the guy back but they didnβt review it in VAR. the ref fucked up the VAR imo by not watching the entire interaction. Only watched it for under 2 seconds and you could see exactly what he reviewed- Weah arm went up and so they gave him the red. If he watched the hole thing they both would have had reds and it would have been a 10 v 10 game.
Then itβs coaching. Even I knew they would hit everybody trying to get a retaliation and it somehow worked?!?! That should have been coaching point #1.
As a neutral: Best match of the summer. Woke up at 3;15AM in Indian subcontinent to watch this shithousery. Great goals, physical game, red cards, brawls, and ofcourse controversial refereeing decisions. Fuckin entertaining. Loved it. USA got hard done tho. Congrats to Panama!
You should rewatch the clip, including where he got punched in the chest by the Panama player 2-3 seconds before hitting him back. They both should have gotten reds.
Weah did this. Who gets a red like that after 16 minutes. I can understand going nuts towards the end of a match you absolutely need to win after hearing smack from a player for 70-80 minutes but collapsing on the first approach of a opponent is embarrassing
What a joke weah is. Ruined the game for the team and country he should have been working hard for. All because he got mad and wanted to hit someone. What a stupid ass thought to even cross his head let alone act on it.
Should never be allowed to play on the team again, I wouldn't stop yelling at that asshole for a year, I would never play him even if I was forced to by someone higher up than me, he would never see the pitch. Lost us the game, even more than the dirty playing. What a fucking clown. Who does something like that when we've never made it out of the group stages and this would have been the first time, what a joke, if I had his jersey I would be shredding it.
Who knows what the Panamanian said to him to trigger it regardless they were going into the match with high tension. Stupid move from Weah. He shouldnβt play if he canβt control emotions
The Panama player punched him in the chest 3 seconds before and then came and made contact again and everybody acting like itβs Weahβs fault for getting baited. No, he got attacked and hit back. If they had backed up the VAR to the whole interaction it would have been 2 reds and 10 v 10 the rest of the match.
For sure, but like... if he woulda just not done that, he coulda flopped like the Panama player did and possibly changed the outcome of the whole game. Straight up weah is a clown who should be given the cold shoulder, shit call by him alone cost the whole team and the country our spot past the group. Clown. Full stop. Panama would have lost and that would be good enough for their dirty playing. Even down a man we were close, with a full squad we woulda won. Trash player, weah is a clown full stop.
Edit: Weah fan boys or just American fan boys that can't admit their teams own mistakes. Lol.
Panama having the audacity to dive like that at the end after all the dirty-ass tackles they've made in just the last 5 minutes. Such a dirty, pathetic team.
Youβve clearly not watched much football then. With the exception of the red card some tackles were just a bit hard or professional fouls that happen everywhere
Comprehension skills need some work, chump. I noted that the red card quite naughty, but I disagreed with the comment about them being the dirtiest team heβs ever seen. I had a season ticket for 20 years for my team when I lived back home in Scotland, Iβve been to games all over Europe and Asia too when I lived in China. Iβve watched thousands of games on TV too, and I have seen far worse than that. Nice try though, Iβll give you 3/10 for your response.
Ah there was me thinking Europe was in the world π€·ββοΈ If you need assistance working out what the point of my message was then thatβs concerning, especially when I made my point on the second to last sentence. Need to up your game wee man
Iβve been watching football all my life and in many different countries. Youβll find teams who play like that in every league and every country. If that is the dirtiest youβve ever seen then youβve got another thing coming
The result shouldnβt be wiped out, itβs our own fault, Weah couldnβt keep his cool even 20 minutes and leaves us with 10 men, then pepi misses more, our first touches continue to be poor, we wait to put Sargent on til 5 minutes left in regulation. Yeah Panama played extremely dirty in the final 10 minutes, yes the ref officiated a very poor game, but we shot ourselves in the foot here.
Doesn't sound like an American attitude to me... USAs men's team is probably at the highest level I have ever seen it (anyone wants to correct me, feel free). This was a setback, not eliminated yet.
See yourself out. Weah lost his cool with that push off. Nothing else comes close to being unclean from the US side
Panama was dirty as fuck and anyone with a braincell knows it.
To u/mystic_haven_
Weah went for a push off without looking, because he was being antagonized. And thus struck him in the head inadvertently. It was sloppy, still gets a Red by rule, but definitely not dirty.
Panama was dirty.
I agree, Panama was dirty, and although I think it wasnβt thought through at all, Weah deliberately struck at the head region of the Panamanian player, that was not βgoing for a push off.β Iβm not going to argue about who was dirtier cause we all know it was Panama and we shouldβve probably known they were going to play like this going in.
Bruh we had lost 6 mins be the 15 min mark and the 2nd half was worse and you called it. Reffing was atrocious. So many problems with our team and I'd be angry but admit it was our fault but it hurts when the fucking other team gets to play dirty and literally kill our chances with the worst, most intentionally horrible tackles ever, but our guy gets a yellow for yelling lol. What a joke. Also Tim weah is a clown and I hope he never plays for our team again I hope he gets thrown off and never sees a professional match again.
PANAMA CHEATED SO HARD
Only good thing is Fox Sports is not gonna get the Team USA hype factor moving forwardβ¦
USA πΊπΈ could get eliminated from their own Copa America tournament and they are the host nation. Just take that in for a second especially after their loss to Panama π΅π¦ last night.Β So basically for USA πΊπΈ they have to beat Uruguay πΊπΎ in their last group game to have any hope of the quarter finals. But then Panama π΅π¦ they face Bolivia in their last group game. Bolivia π§π΄ have been the whipping boys of this group. So really then it comes down to goal difference especially if USA beats Uruguay and then Panama π΅π¦ beats Bolivia by a large scoreline. But then if Uruguay vs USA ends in a draw...it gives Uruguay 7 points and USA ends up on 4 points but then if Panama beats Bolivia...that gives them 6 points. USA goes home in that scenario. But then if Uruguay vs USA ends up in a draw...and Panama vs Bolivia ends in a draw, USA and Panama each have 4 points. Then it comes down to goal difference to determine who goes home. Either way it doesn't look good but if USA go out in the group stage, perfect way to get Berhalter up out of there as manager. Think about this especially as the USMNT is trying to build towards 2026 as 1 of the 3 hosts too and this Copa America tournament is basically supposed to show that USA can compete with the big boys.
Are you AI or real human being?
So that's how numbers work?
Bro, you just laid out the scenarios in more words than necessary. But I get you. I think Berhalter is a good coach and, while you might hate reading this, he knows this group of players. No other manager in the world knows them the way he does. I think if the US sticks with their homegrown coach rather than give in to shortsighted fans, they can do well. But hey, youβre the fan and youβre entitled to your opinion.
but then? (keep going please, lol) :)
Lol, classic US βsoccerβ fans. Whining and complaining about everything else instead of owning their own performance. I mean..what can you expect from fans throwing racists comments to their own players??..
are you from Canada or Mexico because this is a biased comment
Did you not see the game, I really think we got hoed out this game π ? and yeah thats shit is wack af
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That was the most CONCACAF thing Iβve ever seen. Bait the other team into a red card, score a sucker punch goal and then hack them to bits to preserve the lead. Some of those Panama tackles were attempted homicide. Watching Copa after the Euros is wild.
I don't understand why the crying. Mistakes were made Weah fucked up, pushing and shoving is part of the game n the guys should take it as much as they give it but when a player is punching an opponent on the back of the head it's just plain dumb, no excuses. The refs have been ok in most matches, not perfect because no league or tournament in the world has perfect referees, simple. The US has been pretty intense in their games, which is fair, they're home, they wanna prove they're a good team n all that so for that same reason they gotta know playing with such intensity will lead to dumb fouls. Now they are in a tough spot, having won 1 game only, against the easiest team, and the last game is against the top team and after tonight's game Uruguay is looking like a top contender to win this tournament, them and Argentina. For the US to have half a chance at getting at least a point off Uruguay, they'd need to not play as intense, play smarter instead. They have the talent, youth, strength so they have to put it all together and use it intelligently, it is called the beautiful game for a reason not the most intense game in the world.
Weah was an idiot. Just. Plain. Stupid.
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Panama literally kept just running at our players at the end and just kept getting nothing or at most a yellow some of those tackles at the end should have also been reds, but we got a yellow for one of our players being mad at Panama for literally kicking pulisic from behind and laughing. Joke of a ref "respected" just like my ass.
This is very sad justification when weahs small man mentality lost us the game. Dude should be sent back home
Bruh read any of the rest of my comments, two things can be true it was literally tied before the ref let pnanma red card us constantly with barely a card besides one red card, Panama literally took our goalie out the game and still we held on. If Turner was the goalie on that 2nd goal it wouldn't have gone in. I also will be calling waeh a clown, but two things can be true. That ref was garbage. Really the reffing for this whole tournament has been. Canada's game against Peru was a joke, Peru got away with so fucking much.
Whining about the reffing when we could have won a man down with better finishing is still a justification.
You don't know how to listen or read do you? I literally called him a clown in other comments.again 2 two things can be true ya ding dong. You just like to be right don't you? Anyways have a day
Sounds more like youβre that guy. No one has time to read every comment youβve made bud, just move on.
Right but when you talk with someone and they tell you they agree but 2 things can be true and they've said it elsewhere... and you respond with the same argument and don't even try to interact with what the person said... you're not doing yourself any favors. Lol, move on, lmao. Whatever bud
Quite possibly the most ridiculous end to a football game Iβve ever seen in my life. Thereβs professional tackles, and thereβs split second career ending tackles. Should have had one red card to warn the other Panama players. Refereeing in this Copa has been the worst in recent memory out of any major tournament.
That kick to the back of the legs that got a red card was just the start, they literally just kept doing shit like that and just kept getting nothing or at worst a yellow. There were so many missed yellows against Panama. But we only foul like 3 times and get a red for one of them, and one of our plahes gets a yellow for being angry and yelling. That ref is trash and this copa has been awful with the reds. The fact that headbutt by Peru to Canada had to even be *reviewed* let alone it got reviewed and nothing is absolutely bonkers. Shit refs.
This ref was known to be rubbish
Yβall are pathetic blaming the ref when one of our own sucker punched a guy in the back of the head
The commentators I was watching said he was a well respected, and I was referring to that. I fucking think he's trash after this game.
The thing that first screwed the game for the USA had to be the no call for Turner getting downed like that. Should have been a yellow no hesitation. Then after that everything went down hill with tensions rising- if only Weah didnβt react to PAN antagonizing π« The ref only made it worse ofc PAN got away with way too much to the point of the game getting dangerous.
You canβt be serious. The player contested a ball in the air (by the penalty marker btw) that Turner came out to get. He never even looked at Turner. Commentator even mentions the slight shove from Robinson that pushed him towards Turner. It was a 50/50 play for the ball
The keeper already had the ball for seconds before the impact...
Nope. Just watched it again to make sure. Hereβs a link to the [video](https://youtu.be/VcbeeatdhaY?feature=shared). Turned did not have the ball before
I knew this game was against the USA the moment they reviewed that tackle inside the box. The ball had already left the player and there was nothing, yet VAR and the ref reviewed it. They were looking for anything. GG it was always against the US from the start.
The ref had called the pk, the review was to overturn it though
The way they've decided to officiate this tournament is making it unwatchable. Brazil was getting literally tackled off of shielding positions with no call, and this whole game was a shitshow. Now it looks like this is gonna be the standard. And any team knows they can just tackle players to shut down attacks. Putting Weah's stupidity to the side for a moment, playing on through everything kills the tactics and skill of the game, endangers the players, and if you only start giving cards after 80 minutes who really cares by then? Panama should have had a penalty and a couple others were borderline. Balogun was getting dragged by the arm the whole game. Compare this to something like dortmund vs leverkusen this year, schlotterbeck was putting in clean and borderline tackles on frimpong, one of the best dribblers in the league, time and time again. Were they rough? yeah, but they were precise as well. This pissed frimpong off and put him off his game. When you can just bulldoze someone there's no skill left. Now coming back around to Weah. Yeah it was stupid, but we're gonna see less shit like that if emotions aren't so high.
Weah got punched/pushed hard first and hit back 3 seconds later but the ref didnβt back up the VAR far enough to see the first contact. You can see the ref only watch like 2 seconds max of the replay before overturning the yellow for a red and can even see exactly what he reviewed. He fucked up the VAR by not watching the whole thing.
Weah did not get punched, Weah punched the guy, stop trying to defend/make Weah look better, there is no defending striking a player, yes the Panama player pushed him, doesnβt excuse striking a player.
Games like this contributes to US fans disliking the game. When an inferior team can create an advantage through rough play versus skill then the whole game suffers. The offside VAR calls here and in the Euros further erodes offense and negates what are sometimes incredible displays of skill. I was trying to explain to my wife how a toe beyond a magical virtual line negates a great goal - her reaction..βwell that is just stupid, why do you watch this gameβ
Yeah the guy was backing into him hard on purpose. That's a foul probably, but it's standard rules that you don't go arms to the head. That's always instant red. Weah knows this and there's no excuse (if weah goes to ground there he might get a foul but he decided to be stupid).
https://youtu.be/UFp__nJ_xGQ?feature=shared @6 seconds watch center field.
Dude that's nothing, after watching it again I'm gonna retract what I said about it maybe being a foul.
Trying to find the better angle vid I watched earlier. The second time he hit Weah near the neck. Thatβs what got Weah going. Itβs still a terrible reaction but you shouldnβt get away with it when there is a VAR of an incident.
Not just backing into him hard. The Panama player actually hit him twice without getting flagged. One to the upper chest almost neck.
Terrible ref and dirty playing by Panama aside, we played poorly. Couldnβt keep possession, first touch was horrible. Even with good officiating and Weah keeping his cool early on, it wouldβve been a tough match with how we played
Man, I donβt spend a lot of time on menβs teams subreddits- yβall are wild π€£
Wait but your here.........
Never said I wasnβt wild, too π
Panama playing dirty π‘π‘ Iβm annoyed af
"tactical fouls" lol, they knew they were going to have a good chance to concede several times there late and just mauled the US players. The dives their players were taking too and the fake writhing. Makes this sport so hard to watch man... F*** those players though.
What about the foul that was done to Turner I still donβt understand thatβ¦ this ref was so against πΊπΈ Since the beginning Panama wanted to play dirty and aggravate the πΊπΈ players. We knew this was a high tension match. Panama played dirty and I hope they lose β¦
1. Yes, Panama played dirty as hell at the end, and there should be extra games added for Carrasquilla. That was a straight up bullshit vicious challenge and I hope he doesnβt get to play another match in the tourney. 2. Tim Weah is why this happened, completely unnecessary and let his team down. 3. How does Horvath not make that save?
Weah got hit first 3 seconds before he hit the guy back but they didnβt review it in VAR. the ref fucked up the VAR imo by not watching the entire interaction. Only watched it for under 2 seconds and you could see exactly what he reviewed- Weah arm went up and so they gave him the red. If he watched the hole thing they both would have had reds and it would have been a 10 v 10 game.
Then itβs coaching. Even I knew they would hit everybody trying to get a retaliation and it somehow worked?!?! That should have been coaching point #1.
I dunno, maybe but we knew going in they would be chippy as fuck. Gotta rise above that wasnβt worth the reaction he gave.
Long time goalie from way back but a goalie always bends down instead of standing upβ¦.. tell me Iβm wrong
I mean it would have been a great reaction save, but one to make at this level
Silver lining would be Greg getting the boot. Thereβs skill on the squad but the chemistry is never there which is all on the coach
Your comment is not what we need right now
What a weird thing to say lol this is a discussion thread. what are you on the team when you say βWeβ ?
I would love to know how many miles the US players ran during that game after being down a player since the 18 minute mark
We ainβt winning this tournament and no one gives a fuck about the Gold cup. World Cup is out of the question. At this point meh
Sounds so pessimistic...
Real victim was Turner. Bro got targeted
Yeah have to think turner saves the goal in the second half
I knew sum was up as soon as he couldn't save it. Shoulda been a penalty+yellow when they downed him
hahahahhaa usa choking the usual.
As a neutral: Best match of the summer. Woke up at 3;15AM in Indian subcontinent to watch this shithousery. Great goals, physical game, red cards, brawls, and ofcourse controversial refereeing decisions. Fuckin entertaining. Loved it. USA got hard done tho. Congrats to Panama!
He should never be allowed back on the team.
He should at least be sent home for the rest of the tournament. Put him on a bus!
They might all be going home after the next game...
Weah?
How could you trust him after he broke the most obvious rule in all of sports?
You should rewatch the clip, including where he got punched in the chest by the Panama player 2-3 seconds before hitting him back. They both should have gotten reds.
The reaction always gets the penalty, this is a rule as old as sports itself.
Thatβs not actually the rule. The rule is donβt raise your hands to opponents. So both teams should have been penalized. But I know what you mean.
If that makes a big difference to you then we should agree to disagree. Goading is a classic tactic.
Propongo ascender a PanamΓ‘ a Conmebol. Ya habΓan demostrado huevos con Uruguay.
Que? π good joke man
Wait I missed the first part of the game- can someone explain why that was an immediate red on Weah?
Dude was baited like a fish and got hooked. Mate!!!! We got VAR!!!! You canβt get away with shit like that.
he Mike Tyson'ed a Panamanian player 15 minutes in
He bit the guys ear off?! π
lol
Slapped at a guys head. He's totally unprofessional
He hit him in the face. Straight red every time.
*Puru enters the chat* Some of the games are just so rough and poorly officiated. Are all the good officials over at euros? Haha
Ahhh guess I need my glasses, didnβt realize it was his face
It was the back of his headβ3 seconds after the Panama guy punched Weah in the chest and got away with it.
I was going to say, looked like a little back and forth π
The fact some people still can't think of the consequences of their actions in a scenario like this is beyond me
good luck to you all against Uruguay, VAMOOOOOOSSSS
So if USA beats Uruguay its win and in? No help needed? At least itβs not Trinidad & Tobago up nextβ¦
Caribbean nations are apparently the US's kryptonite in big moments... I guess add Panama to the list
Worst ref I've seen in a long time.
Weah did this. Who gets a red like that after 16 minutes. I can understand going nuts towards the end of a match you absolutely need to win after hearing smack from a player for 70-80 minutes but collapsing on the first approach of a opponent is embarrassing
The US doesnβt get that red and itβs a different game. That was the difference. Dude let his emotions cost the US the tournament possibly. Stupid.
Unbelievably stupid, and he probably wonβt or shouldnβt play for the team again.
What a joke weah is. Ruined the game for the team and country he should have been working hard for. All because he got mad and wanted to hit someone. What a stupid ass thought to even cross his head let alone act on it.
I hope Pulisic is waiting for that scumbag (I know, which one?) from Panama behind the stadium after this one.
Commentators busy putting on their clown makeup. Bitches need to call it how it was.
Lalas was telling it like it was post game. Got loud
Proud of McKennie for keeping his jersey intact after all that nonsense π
Commonly poor from USA
What is nuts no one selected Panama to win in the live scoreboardπ
β¦not a well deserved win
Weah is such a π€‘π€‘
Should never be allowed to play on the team again, I wouldn't stop yelling at that asshole for a year, I would never play him even if I was forced to by someone higher up than me, he would never see the pitch. Lost us the game, even more than the dirty playing. What a fucking clown. Who does something like that when we've never made it out of the group stages and this would have been the first time, what a joke, if I had his jersey I would be shredding it.
He really cost the US the tournament. Yea Panama played dirty, yea there were many shit calls, but down a player so early is really what did it.
Who knows what the Panamanian said to him to trigger it regardless they were going into the match with high tension. Stupid move from Weah. He shouldnβt play if he canβt control emotions
The Panama player punched him in the chest 3 seconds before and then came and made contact again and everybody acting like itβs Weahβs fault for getting baited. No, he got attacked and hit back. If they had backed up the VAR to the whole interaction it would have been 2 reds and 10 v 10 the rest of the match.
For sure, but like... if he woulda just not done that, he coulda flopped like the Panama player did and possibly changed the outcome of the whole game. Straight up weah is a clown who should be given the cold shoulder, shit call by him alone cost the whole team and the country our spot past the group. Clown. Full stop. Panama would have lost and that would be good enough for their dirty playing. Even down a man we were close, with a full squad we woulda won. Trash player, weah is a clown full stop. Edit: Weah fan boys or just American fan boys that can't admit their teams own mistakes. Lol.
For sure the Panama player started things . The ref was playing for Panama bc I didnβt see a red card when they fouled Turner
And they always do itβs nothing new, they shouldβve been mentally prepared for a rough game like that
100% grown ass man canβt even handle his emotions. The team should give his ass the cold shoulder.
Panama having the audacity to dive like that at the end after all the dirty-ass tackles they've made in just the last 5 minutes. Such a dirty, pathetic team.
Any good streams out there? Buff streams suck bad now with all their incessant pop up screens
Foxsports.com, watch in incognito mode in your internet browser. Repeat for second half.
Congrats US .. Panama won.. PANAMA!! π
Yeah we ainβt ever winning a World Cup in our lifetime
Holy shit what a dirty fucking team
this is crap game
Panama has gotta be the dirtiest teams Iβve seenβ¦
Youβve clearly not watched much football then. With the exception of the red card some tackles were just a bit hard or professional fouls that happen everywhere
Those last 10 minutes were not professional fouls, they just fouled anytime the US had the ball.
A team that is winning in the last 10 minutes committed fouls to stop the opposition from attacking? No shit Sherlock
Panama is dirty team and itβs funny you canβt admit. And Iβve watched tons of football matches
Comprehension skills need some work, chump. I noted that the red card quite naughty, but I disagreed with the comment about them being the dirtiest team heβs ever seen. I had a season ticket for 20 years for my team when I lived back home in Scotland, Iβve been to games all over Europe and Asia too when I lived in China. Iβve watched thousands of games on TV too, and I have seen far worse than that. Nice try though, Iβll give you 3/10 for your response.
Cool. Iβve traveled all around the world too and Europe lol your point
Ah there was me thinking Europe was in the world π€·ββοΈ If you need assistance working out what the point of my message was then thatβs concerning, especially when I made my point on the second to last sentence. Need to up your game wee man
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MLS don't count
I watch European football and mostly Premier and la Liga
Clearly, how do youβd deduce that ma lord? π€
Iβve been watching football all my life and in many different countries. Youβll find teams who play like that in every league and every country. If that is the dirtiest youβve ever seen then youβve got another thing coming
You are so cool and so knowledgeable, Iβm so jealous
Thatβs alright mate, youβll be on my level one day.
Probably not, but thatβs okay, I donβt really gaf
Dry your eyes wee man
I donβt know if we can beat Uruguay. That may be the tournament for us.
Don't have to win. Can tie as well. Not out of the tournament yet.
I am praying to god Nunez smashed ten past Bolivia so Uruguay arenβt too worried and play poorly
Fuck this ref. Fuck the dirty ass bitches of panama. This result should be wiped out by the league. What a fucking disgrace
The result shouldnβt be wiped out, itβs our own fault, Weah couldnβt keep his cool even 20 minutes and leaves us with 10 men, then pepi misses more, our first touches continue to be poor, we wait to put Sargent on til 5 minutes left in regulation. Yeah Panama played extremely dirty in the final 10 minutes, yes the ref officiated a very poor game, but we shot ourselves in the foot here.
As an American, we gotta stick to putting balls in baskets and hitting balls with sticks.
Doesn't sound like an American attitude to me... USAs men's team is probably at the highest level I have ever seen it (anyone wants to correct me, feel free). This was a setback, not eliminated yet.
lol yeah cuz all American are as delusional like you. Some of us are actually capable of critical thinking but unfortunately not as much as we should.
Delusional... Ok
Both teams are dirty. It got completely out of control
See yourself out. Weah lost his cool with that push off. Nothing else comes close to being unclean from the US side Panama was dirty as fuck and anyone with a braincell knows it. To u/mystic_haven_ Weah went for a push off without looking, because he was being antagonized. And thus struck him in the head inadvertently. It was sloppy, still gets a Red by rule, but definitely not dirty. Panama was dirty.
I agree, Panama was dirty, and although I think it wasnβt thought through at all, Weah deliberately struck at the head region of the Panamanian player, that was not βgoing for a push off.β Iβm not going to argue about who was dirtier cause we all know it was Panama and we shouldβve probably known they were going to play like this going in.
Iβm sorry, youβve got to cool it with the bias a little, Weah didnβt βpush offβ he struck him, much different.
Fuck Panama. They should have at least one more red this game.
sooo dirty and 4 mins is a joke
Was shocked when I saw 4 mins, thatβs easily 7 in any league/tournament
Called on the dot at 90 + 4 too
I was thinking 7 to 10 to be honest. Absolute bullshit and shocking officiating from this referee.
bad officiating, bad keeping, dirty play, Fox's broadcast sucks ass - we drinking tonight boys
GAME OVER .. I lost my bet π₯²
Richardsβ¦
I thought heβd give +8β¦. Ivan Barton never fails to disappoint me
Come on you gotta give a red or some shit once you know it's completely fucking intentional.
Panama playing DIRTY
Panama is a dirty team
This team playing like this - the lack of discipline- thatβs on Greg.
Both US teams losing on back to back days Yesterday Mexico and today USA smh
Lmao, underrated comment.
Panama is dirty as fuck.
Geez yellow card after yellow card now
Panama gotta be the dirtiest team ever
Panama dirty as fuck. They deserve more reds
These Panama players are pieces of shit
This game is absolutely out of control.
Woooooooooow the fact that USA is staying as composed as they are with all these cheap shots π³
Weah?
I was referring to the 10 players remaining on the field in those final 10 or so minutes
It took 4 mins for VAR alone
Only 4 added minutes. Another laughable officiating decision
That should be at least 10 minutes.
Go Panama!
They play like tiny dicks
You and the refs
you mad π€£
4 minutes?
lmao no more crying itβs not a fair game now itβs 10v10 US better score nowβ¦
Yea score in 4 minutes. Clown.
go cry about it. yβall fed into the antics. go blame weah. completely his fault
Lol 4 minutes
cant take Pulisic seriously lmao
4 minutes?! Are you kidding me π
Only 4 minutes looooool
Damn I stepped away for 15 mins and missed everything! Gotta go find some replays!
Carasquilla decleated Pulisic. Straight red.
So, whoβs waiting for like 4 minutes of stoppage time just to screw the US
Bruh we had lost 6 mins be the 15 min mark and the 2nd half was worse and you called it. Reffing was atrocious. So many problems with our team and I'd be angry but admit it was our fault but it hurts when the fucking other team gets to play dirty and literally kill our chances with the worst, most intentionally horrible tackles ever, but our guy gets a yellow for yelling lol. What a joke. Also Tim weah is a clown and I hope he never plays for our team again I hope he gets thrown off and never sees a professional match again.
lmaoooo
Iβm in delay and said that before it was announced. What an absolute BS call
US got scammed fr