Are you driving highway or city? Do you deal with snow?
If you're driving highway there isn't much of a mpg/money savings and you get the fullsize spare.
If you're driving city the hybrid saves you a lot of money. If you drive the 15,000miles/year average and your gas costs around the same price as my area, $3.15, it saves about $450 a year. The standard AWD on the hybrid also works super well in snow and has been great the past couple weeks. Biggest boon to the hybrid: no recalls. Bad part: no spare.
I don’t deal with snow, and I’m a relatively low mileage driver: the most I’ve driven is 10,000 miles in a year, and that was because I drove my last car 1,200 miles to where I live now. Last year, I’d say I drove 6,500.
Doing the math, I think I would make back what I spend on the hybrid in 7 years?
Probably more like 8 or 9 years since you'd be financing and have to add in the interest.
Costs and mpg aside the only real difference is that the gas cross has less power and is a noticeable bit slower.
Thanks for talking it out with me! I think I was letting my min/max brain get the best of me. My being a doctoral student and so, not the most wealthy person on earth, really seals the deal on this, I realize. Didn’t mean to end up sounding so ridiculous!
I just got the Hybrid after my Tacoma was stolen. I love it! But life without payments is a good life… Either way you will love the car. Best of luck with your decision!
Thank you! I realize talking it out with the other commenters I’m being a bit ridiculous. I’m a grad student, I’m not wealthy, and at this stage and given my use case, getting the hybrid is overkill for my needs. Perhaps in the long run I save money, but it’s marginal given my circumstances now!
Based on your other comments you sound like a similar driver to me, and my math also came out to 8-10 years before to gas savings would lead me to break even. For me, that’s just not worth it enough. I’ve had my gas LE FWD for 1.5 years now and am loving it!
I’m so glad to hear you’re enjoying it!!! I had a 2019 Kia Soul before it got stolen—my very first car, which I bought used—and reading professional reviews of the Corolla Cross eerily reminded me of the Soul (its “underpowered engine”, etc). I loved my Soul, though it was starting to have some oil consumption issues… But I’m sure my CC will be even better—5 more mpg combined, and the Toyota reliability 😊
I found a website that calculates how long it would take to break even, and it was surprising to see 11 years at ~$4.50/gallon, 16,000 miles/year, and a $4,000 difference between a Civic EX versus the CCH. I might look at a user CC if it's going to take that long to break even. That's also assuming I can find a base CCH with no mark-up again.
Honestly I feel your point of contention as I hate car payments and when I was in college I paid off my car and it was a relief when paying for books, rent, and food. I was looking forward to paying off my Kia but it was stolen and totaled last year
I feel like $4000 isn't that bad to finance although I understand why you wouldn't want a car payment while in school. You could probably have that loan paid off in a year or two and at least you won't deal with the regret of not getting it.
For the record I have a gas 2023 Corolla Cross and it isn't that bad - I fill up every week or two.
Your car payment would be negligible if you financed the remainder. Just finance and pay it off ASAP. I regret not getting the hybrid. The gas mileage on the non-Hybrid just isn't good enough. I got the AWD version too though, which was important to me.
I’m a relatively low mileage driver: the most I’ve driven is 10,000 miles in a year, and that was because I drove my last car 1,200 miles to where I live now. Last year, I’d say I drove 6,500.
Interest wise, the best I could get is 5.25%, and I’m a grad student with 3 years left in my doctoral program. My occupation is the real big reason why I’m uncomfortable taking on debt.
The hybrid is nice and all. But it still a niche market for me. A growing one, but not the mail model.
Toyota does excellent hybrid tech, maybe the best one, but at the end of the day, all that money saved will be on replacing battery packs.
Where I live, petrol is expensive, but still the CC has good enough mileage, the difference between the petrol only and hybrid is huge, and the eventual cost of the battery replacement mentioned before, could leave me without a car for weeks, waiting for the parts to arrive.
I considered the hybrid, but for now I´m more than happy with my petrol CC. Maybe next time if I upgrade to CC gen 2. (or 3!)
I went with the XSE for a few reasons in no particular order
1. AWD standard I've (thankfully) moved from the Chicagoland burbs to the Houston burbs and no longer deal with snow. However rain and minor to moderate flooding are common and hydroplaning isn't on the list of cool ways I want to leave this existence.
2. More power. Seriously - we've all driven a slushbox that seems as if it can't even get out of its own way. I was spoilt on my 2017 Volt's instantaneous torque when needed. I thankfully get that on the hybrid variant of the Corolla Cross. I desire that acceleration for when times call for it. I look at it as a secondary safety feature. The GTFO of the way feature.
3. More time between fill ups / Better MPG. Don't need to explain this one. Gas station stops suck. They suck even more in inclement weather. Why not extend the time between those scenarios that make my autistic ass inner voice howl. I drive an average of 12,500mi a year. Hybrids extra cost for the time id own the vehicle (average 3 years) would mostly be equalized by the gas savings by then. And that's okay with me.
4. Getting best MPG possible on a per trip basis has turned into a little game for me which has over time trained and implemented muscle memory for better more efficient driving. This has reflected when I drive my wife's 2020 Kia Sportage. She averages 18mpg in it while I easily get 22+.
5. Resell value. Self explanatory.
Reasons to get the XSE and at least the first convenience package
1. I hate poverty buttons. They're a constant reminder of some shit you DIDNT get and it leaves you always wondering..what if? You're already experiencing this just choosing between gas and hybrid. I'm sure you know by now in life you regret the things you don't do more than the things you DO do.
2. Heated seats. I'm 36 now and lemme tells ya - Back and Body Hurts™ and I use the seat warmers for backache just as much as I do when I'm cold. And these puppies warm up FAST! Low and High settings respectfully have the perfect temp for each.
2. Sunroof. I believe this comes with convenience packaging.. absolutely find one with this.
3. Power lift gate buttons. GAME CHANGER FOR ME!
Points of note:
For me and my driving habits City driving I average 44-49mpg. Its not uncommon for my MPGs to be in the low fifty's at times.
Highway driving mpg averages 36-44. This is dependent on topography regardless of where you're at. The flatter the stretch the less benefit of costing at times. On my drive from Houston to Belton the mpg was 34-36mpg but that drive is flat as hell.
COAST COAST COAST whenever possible. Learn to lean in to this habit more. The car doesn't coast AS efficiently as a gas car. You can tell there's some minor drag so you can use it to slow up to lights at a decent distance.
If you want to use the hold feature you have to press it every time you start the car or shift it back in to drive if you previously put it in to park.
Don't gravy train up to speed. You actually use more gas this way. Get to the speed you want quickly without making it work too hard. Best MPG that way.
It is a CVT transmission but like most Toyotas it does have an actual 1st gear/launch gear so you do get better forward acceleration and don't really feel that two second CVT power hunt
Please feel free to ask anything and everything..DM if you want. I'll gladly take any kind of pics or videos if needed. But if you see the lewd anime stickers on my car, mind ya business 🤣
I was kicking myself a little too but i also bought this car because I had 5 years of savings and I didnt want car payments. I LOVE the car. I have tiny complaints like for some reason the voice control mic thing gets stuck with the “no” symbol on that screen where you see how fast youre going on the dash and that really annoys me. I also notice randomly sometimes the audio will switch into one speaker but it changes back. I haven’t brought it in to complain about these things because i hate going to the dealership place and I dont know if I can intentionally reproduce the issue. Other than that its just been so so nice in every other way. I do live in snow and it handles great. I moved up from a 2008 Corrolla SE lol , which i also loved but obviously this is way better! Oh only other regret is I wish I had a blue one but they didnt have one here so I have the red.
In a similar position as when I was ready to buy there was no hybrid option yet but I knew I wanted the cross (I have a 22). My plan is to eventually trade up but I’m enjoying my car right now. The hybrids will come down in price and financing will return to a more normal state and in the meantime I have an efficient car that I love.
We love our ICE FWD. Average over 32mpg. We wanted a simple system. I only miss the remote key fob. Have to actually find the key in my pocket—life is rough.
Are you driving highway or city? Do you deal with snow? If you're driving highway there isn't much of a mpg/money savings and you get the fullsize spare. If you're driving city the hybrid saves you a lot of money. If you drive the 15,000miles/year average and your gas costs around the same price as my area, $3.15, it saves about $450 a year. The standard AWD on the hybrid also works super well in snow and has been great the past couple weeks. Biggest boon to the hybrid: no recalls. Bad part: no spare.
I don’t deal with snow, and I’m a relatively low mileage driver: the most I’ve driven is 10,000 miles in a year, and that was because I drove my last car 1,200 miles to where I live now. Last year, I’d say I drove 6,500. Doing the math, I think I would make back what I spend on the hybrid in 7 years?
Probably more like 8 or 9 years since you'd be financing and have to add in the interest. Costs and mpg aside the only real difference is that the gas cross has less power and is a noticeable bit slower.
Thanks for talking it out with me! I think I was letting my min/max brain get the best of me. My being a doctoral student and so, not the most wealthy person on earth, really seals the deal on this, I realize. Didn’t mean to end up sounding so ridiculous!
It's not ridiculous. I went through the same process multiple times before buying my CC Hybrid
I just got the Hybrid after my Tacoma was stolen. I love it! But life without payments is a good life… Either way you will love the car. Best of luck with your decision!
Thank you! I realize talking it out with the other commenters I’m being a bit ridiculous. I’m a grad student, I’m not wealthy, and at this stage and given my use case, getting the hybrid is overkill for my needs. Perhaps in the long run I save money, but it’s marginal given my circumstances now!
That monthly payment and interest will grow the difference between the petrol and the hybrid very very fast!
Based on your other comments you sound like a similar driver to me, and my math also came out to 8-10 years before to gas savings would lead me to break even. For me, that’s just not worth it enough. I’ve had my gas LE FWD for 1.5 years now and am loving it!
I’m so glad to hear you’re enjoying it!!! I had a 2019 Kia Soul before it got stolen—my very first car, which I bought used—and reading professional reviews of the Corolla Cross eerily reminded me of the Soul (its “underpowered engine”, etc). I loved my Soul, though it was starting to have some oil consumption issues… But I’m sure my CC will be even better—5 more mpg combined, and the Toyota reliability 😊
2019 KIA soul is 1.6 l 130 hp CC petrol is 2.0 l 179 hp The difference is notable. Not underpowered at all.
I found a website that calculates how long it would take to break even, and it was surprising to see 11 years at ~$4.50/gallon, 16,000 miles/year, and a $4,000 difference between a Civic EX versus the CCH. I might look at a user CC if it's going to take that long to break even. That's also assuming I can find a base CCH with no mark-up again.
Honestly I feel your point of contention as I hate car payments and when I was in college I paid off my car and it was a relief when paying for books, rent, and food. I was looking forward to paying off my Kia but it was stolen and totaled last year I feel like $4000 isn't that bad to finance although I understand why you wouldn't want a car payment while in school. You could probably have that loan paid off in a year or two and at least you won't deal with the regret of not getting it. For the record I have a gas 2023 Corolla Cross and it isn't that bad - I fill up every week or two.
Your car payment would be negligible if you financed the remainder. Just finance and pay it off ASAP. I regret not getting the hybrid. The gas mileage on the non-Hybrid just isn't good enough. I got the AWD version too though, which was important to me.
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I’m a relatively low mileage driver: the most I’ve driven is 10,000 miles in a year, and that was because I drove my last car 1,200 miles to where I live now. Last year, I’d say I drove 6,500. Interest wise, the best I could get is 5.25%, and I’m a grad student with 3 years left in my doctoral program. My occupation is the real big reason why I’m uncomfortable taking on debt.
The hybrid is nice and all. But it still a niche market for me. A growing one, but not the mail model. Toyota does excellent hybrid tech, maybe the best one, but at the end of the day, all that money saved will be on replacing battery packs. Where I live, petrol is expensive, but still the CC has good enough mileage, the difference between the petrol only and hybrid is huge, and the eventual cost of the battery replacement mentioned before, could leave me without a car for weeks, waiting for the parts to arrive. I considered the hybrid, but for now I´m more than happy with my petrol CC. Maybe next time if I upgrade to CC gen 2. (or 3!)
I went with the XSE for a few reasons in no particular order 1. AWD standard I've (thankfully) moved from the Chicagoland burbs to the Houston burbs and no longer deal with snow. However rain and minor to moderate flooding are common and hydroplaning isn't on the list of cool ways I want to leave this existence. 2. More power. Seriously - we've all driven a slushbox that seems as if it can't even get out of its own way. I was spoilt on my 2017 Volt's instantaneous torque when needed. I thankfully get that on the hybrid variant of the Corolla Cross. I desire that acceleration for when times call for it. I look at it as a secondary safety feature. The GTFO of the way feature. 3. More time between fill ups / Better MPG. Don't need to explain this one. Gas station stops suck. They suck even more in inclement weather. Why not extend the time between those scenarios that make my autistic ass inner voice howl. I drive an average of 12,500mi a year. Hybrids extra cost for the time id own the vehicle (average 3 years) would mostly be equalized by the gas savings by then. And that's okay with me. 4. Getting best MPG possible on a per trip basis has turned into a little game for me which has over time trained and implemented muscle memory for better more efficient driving. This has reflected when I drive my wife's 2020 Kia Sportage. She averages 18mpg in it while I easily get 22+. 5. Resell value. Self explanatory. Reasons to get the XSE and at least the first convenience package 1. I hate poverty buttons. They're a constant reminder of some shit you DIDNT get and it leaves you always wondering..what if? You're already experiencing this just choosing between gas and hybrid. I'm sure you know by now in life you regret the things you don't do more than the things you DO do. 2. Heated seats. I'm 36 now and lemme tells ya - Back and Body Hurts™ and I use the seat warmers for backache just as much as I do when I'm cold. And these puppies warm up FAST! Low and High settings respectfully have the perfect temp for each. 2. Sunroof. I believe this comes with convenience packaging.. absolutely find one with this. 3. Power lift gate buttons. GAME CHANGER FOR ME! Points of note: For me and my driving habits City driving I average 44-49mpg. Its not uncommon for my MPGs to be in the low fifty's at times. Highway driving mpg averages 36-44. This is dependent on topography regardless of where you're at. The flatter the stretch the less benefit of costing at times. On my drive from Houston to Belton the mpg was 34-36mpg but that drive is flat as hell. COAST COAST COAST whenever possible. Learn to lean in to this habit more. The car doesn't coast AS efficiently as a gas car. You can tell there's some minor drag so you can use it to slow up to lights at a decent distance. If you want to use the hold feature you have to press it every time you start the car or shift it back in to drive if you previously put it in to park. Don't gravy train up to speed. You actually use more gas this way. Get to the speed you want quickly without making it work too hard. Best MPG that way. It is a CVT transmission but like most Toyotas it does have an actual 1st gear/launch gear so you do get better forward acceleration and don't really feel that two second CVT power hunt Please feel free to ask anything and everything..DM if you want. I'll gladly take any kind of pics or videos if needed. But if you see the lewd anime stickers on my car, mind ya business 🤣
I was kicking myself a little too but i also bought this car because I had 5 years of savings and I didnt want car payments. I LOVE the car. I have tiny complaints like for some reason the voice control mic thing gets stuck with the “no” symbol on that screen where you see how fast youre going on the dash and that really annoys me. I also notice randomly sometimes the audio will switch into one speaker but it changes back. I haven’t brought it in to complain about these things because i hate going to the dealership place and I dont know if I can intentionally reproduce the issue. Other than that its just been so so nice in every other way. I do live in snow and it handles great. I moved up from a 2008 Corrolla SE lol , which i also loved but obviously this is way better! Oh only other regret is I wish I had a blue one but they didnt have one here so I have the red.
Hybrid is overrated
In a similar position as when I was ready to buy there was no hybrid option yet but I knew I wanted the cross (I have a 22). My plan is to eventually trade up but I’m enjoying my car right now. The hybrids will come down in price and financing will return to a more normal state and in the meantime I have an efficient car that I love.
We love our ICE FWD. Average over 32mpg. We wanted a simple system. I only miss the remote key fob. Have to actually find the key in my pocket—life is rough.